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107 Comments
6 years ago
Ask the police whether they’ve found shell casings. When you find out they haven’t, you may want to accept those were blinking lights. Because they were.
6 years ago
Reply to
Commieobamie
There is a release photo showing shell casing on the floor, but not as many as required to explain the volume of fire.
6 years ago
Reply to
Jim
There’s another photo of the dead perp’s face and chest. Around him are about 23 shell casings and a gray revolver about 2 ft above his head on the floor. The carpet is the same type shown in the other photos. You have to do some digging to find it, but it’s out there. I saw the photos in a slideshow format.
6 years ago
Reply to
Jim
They mean shell casings below the “4th floor muzzle flash” which wasn’t muzzle flash. I have to question people’s sanity that jump to that conclusion based on this video, where if you pay any attention to detail you can clearly see the lights continue to flash after the gunfire stops as she pans to the right and leaves. Muzzle flash with no sounds = not possible, nor is firing through a SEALED WINDOW without breaking it. Every nut around is ignoring these 2 blatant reasons why this is clearly not “muzzle flash” nor a “second shooter”.
6 years ago
Reply to
John Howard
In any cover up they will be the first to be “lost”. The wounds on the bodies should give a clue as in the first burst they would all be facing one direction but we will never find out.
6 years ago
Had to be in the same room because only two windows were broken and they were in the same room. This was proven when a video was made of the inside of the room the shooter was in, it showed two of its windows were broken and they were on different sides. However, there could have been more than one shooter, especially when the sounds of the gunfire changed rapidly. Fire was coming from one side and was louder, but within seconds fire was coming from the other side which was not so loud. Sometimes the higher and lower sounds happened simultaneously. One man could not have run 20 to 30 feet that quick to fire from different sides. The guns must have been belt fed. I have also seen pictures of police blocks away from the hotel hunkered down next to their squad car, while people were standing around on all sides out in the open. There is something very strange about the entire shooting. Almost like the entire thing was staged even though innocent people were killed. Maybe a lot more people are involved in this than the dead shooter. An unbelievable degree of evil has come into our country.
6 years ago
Reply to
John Nosser
The recent evidence that Paddock had another person in the room may explain the second broken window. And it may also explain why contunuous rapid fire was interspersed with very short bursts. One guy was reloading.
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
All I can gather from the receipt is to ask were there 2 or 3 people in the room. Three drinks are ordered. And, three food items … some large – some small (a burger, a bagel and soup).
And, was one a female …a bagel and water… is a ‘common’ item for weight conscious females.
And, who was the female seen with Paddock in the lobby in a nice outfit or pants suit ~ a day before the attack? (allegedly that was Paddock and the lady had a jacket draped over her arm)
6 years ago
Reply to
MEL
Hi Mel:
Better versions of this image are now available. It is valid, and more detail has come out.
The best theory at the moment is that Paddock was a far-left democrat who was recruited to infiltrate US ISIS groups. But he was a double agent, with true loyalties to ISIS, not to his US Intel handlers.
That explains:
– the massive coverup. This black op went horribly bad for US Intel
– who shot Paddock in the head, on-scene, then left
– Paddock’s massive preparation work
– Why Paddock expected to get away clean
– the deaths of witnesses
– the obsession with the ‘lone-gunman’ theory
– the fact that Paddock was known to authorities, but no one stopped him
– why ISIS correctly claimed responsibility. Because they were
– ISIS is almost always proved right when they claim responsibility
6 years ago
Reply to
MEL
Hi Mel:
Better versions of this image are now available. It is valid, and more detail has come out.
The best theory at the moment is that Paddock was a far-left Democrat who was recruited to infiltrate US ISIS groups. But he was a double agent, with true loyalties to ISIS, not to his US Intel handlers.
That explains:
– the massive coverup. This black op went horribly wrong for US Intel
– endless obfuscation, back-tracking, and denial by ‘authorities’
– who shot Paddock in the head, on-scene, then left
– Paddock’s massive preparation work
– Why Paddock expected to get away clean
– the deaths of witnesses
– the coaching and manipulation of witnesses
– the obsession with the ‘lone-gunman’ theory
– the fact that Paddock was known to authorities, but no one stopped him
– why ISIS correctly claimed responsibility. Because they were.
– ISIS is almost always proved right when they claim responsibility
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Reloading a mag would take a couple of seconds or less. And in the first three volleys approximately 120 bullets were fired. I put the sound file in an audio editing program to estimate the amount and cyclic rate of fire (=~ 690 rds / min). I saw another video with wavering or oscillating fire (indications of bump fire) and approximately 120 rounds were fired in that too. He could have had 120 round drum mags, or two 60 round mags ganged together. You can find Youtube videos of guys firing these type of mags. Machine gun belt not necessary to fire that amount.
Only one person needed and sufficent. Now if we have convincing footage of overlapping fire, then that might point to more than one shooter. I think, however, only one person is needed to do this.
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Taylor:
Yes. Well I wanted to find out, so I posted the graph, to see how you would react. A Leftist’s head would explode!
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Ďim∅-rats and their wack job constituents probably were indoctrinated and programmed by the gutter`mint gulags and can not read.
Graphs are way above their welfare freebie pay “grades”.
6 years ago
Reply to
John Nosser
JN:
1. “One man could not have run 20 to 30 feet that quick to fire from different sides”
Sure he could. There was a long enough pause between volleys for him to wall. My house is 35 feet wide. I can walk, not run, from one side to the other without losing any breath.
2. “Must have been belt fed”
Could be, but not necessarily. There are 60 and 120 round mags for sale for the M16/AR-15. You can find Youtube videos of guys firing such sized mags on an AR-15. Or, there is one brand which allows two 60 rd mags to be ganged together to form a 120 “mag”. There is a Youtube video of a guy firing such a double 60 round mag, and he swaps the mags out quite quickly, maybe fraction of a second. Both mags face up so the shooter doesn’t have to flip the 2nd mag 180 degrees. It just, detach the first, slide the second one over, insert the second mag, pull the charger and fire. The two mags can also be detached from each other. I’m not saying that the shooter did this, but it is possible. I say 120, because that is approximately how many rounds he fired in one volley.
3. “…while people were standing around on all sides out in the open.”
Possible Explanation: The police were better informed of the situation and knew the general direction of fire. The general public was confused, in some shock, or not aware of the true situation. You can see this in the earlier released videos. They are running full tilt, they’re walking, standing, sitting, some behind concealment, others in the open. They were trying to figure out what was going on. Fireworks, firecrackers, hotpoppers? They didn’t know. Nor did they know which direction to go because they had not yet identified the direction of the fire.
Occam’s razor. Not as fun, I know, but probably more likely.
6 years ago
Reply to
Jim
typo correction: They are *not* running full tilt…
and: for him to walk, not wall.
6 years ago
Reply to
Jim
The distance wasn’t 20 feet away …. the distance was 250 meters (or 250 feet) away. Regardless, while the cab driver is in a single spot with windows down on both events it is CLEAR beyond any stretch of the imagination that she is hearing gunfire from 2 guns, 2 gunmen from 2 different locations. The first is faint and muffled and very far away … the SECOND sounds are extremely loud and very close by (no they are not on top of her car … it only sounds that way). The other sounds in the beginning (and some in the middle) are so far away …. that it would be driving distance … not running. Besides how could the shooter from room 135 (whom ever that shooter was – not Paddock) have left without being seen …. and without disturbing the food cart with camera? The whole purpose was to stay inside while shooting and leave before police arrived. Which was between 10:15pm – 10:17pm.
Not to mention the hotel guest in the room next to 135 who was eventually saved/evacuated by later cops said there was multiple persons (men) going in and out of the shooters room … and at least two people were dead. One in a “security vest”. Whether that person was the real Jesus Campos and he died who knows. Or, a real security guard who was shot? Or, someone “dressed as a security guard” who was shot along with Paddock and a third person left …. is left to be determined.
6 years ago
Reply to
John Nosser
People who are untrained and/or inexperienced react differently to events. That may be one reason the reactions seem strange.
6 years ago
The cab was MOVING, thus coming sound is sometimes softer, sometimes more louder. It does not PROVE any “second shooter.” Camera is too much shaking to determine anything momentarily visible. What’s strange, however, (read this from other source) is that the hotel management which ALLOWED this one guy to have wire with cameras on the corridor and no one paid ANY attention to that! He was preparing for days for his attack, bringing whole arsenal to his room and no one stopped him? THAT would be the conspiracy, if you will.
6 years ago
Reply to
Voytek Gagalka
Stop him for what, bringing bags to his room? How long did he have the camera in the corridor? I’d assume right before he started shooting.
6 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
I’m not the one who ASSumed that the gunman’s girlfriend is an Islamist based on some hearsay that she may have Indonesian ancestry.
Or that two broken windows means multiple gunmen. Or the other idiotic assumptions that conspiracy theorists make. I make reasonable qualified assumptions, and if they turn out to be wrong, then I stand corrected, but I’m usually right.
D
6 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
You can lead a horse’s ass to water, but you can’t make him think 🙂
6 years ago
Pam’s gone tinfoil hat. Are you a 9/11 truther too? Do you think Saddam was behind the Oklahoma city bombing?
6 years ago
Reply to
Falcon
Ah, you’re an Oklahoma City bombing truther. How about the 1993 WTC bombing?
6 years ago
Reply to
Reality Check
I think that the ignoring of the supplier of the explosives( a muslim) to the bomber says quite a lot about the honesty of the US legal apparatus. I don’t think there is much doubt about who actually did it, but why and how have never been answered satisfactorily. I see timothy as a stupid dupe.
6 years ago
Reply to
Reality Check
She’s just speculating, like anyone of us does, when there is no contrary information. None of us know right now, because not enough info has been issued by the authorities. I wouldn’t make any more out of it than that.
6 years ago
Reply to
Jim
Nah, she has a right-wing anti-Muslim agenda. Anything to deny that a seemingly ordinary non-Muslim white guy can commit a massacre with legally purchased guns.
6 years ago
Reply to
Reality Check
Such acts are aberrations in the west but not for jihadists. His actions while typical of the jihadist totally shocked his brother who, while knowing that he had some extreme leftist views, is reported as being shocked WRT the firearms alone, even without the carnage. Such a sudden change in behaviour(from verbal to actual GBH) and attitude fits in quite well with the concept of radicalization. I would not be surprised to find out that he had some terminal disease. A to the supposed second shooter I cannot comment but there were certainly >2 weapons fired from the sound alone(yes I know that he has not a few).
6 years ago
Reply to
Reality Check
Does she use the same mad tinfoil hatter you do? Or do you get yours from amazon?
6 years ago
Breaking: Paddock was a Muslim Democrat
http://theblacksphere.net/2017/10/facebook-vegas-shooter-likely-democrat/
Stephen Paddock, the Las Vegas Killer, a Muslim Convert?
(lots of background info about Marilou Danley and her husband)
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/268033/could-stephen-paddock-las-vegas-killer-be-muslim-daniel-greenfield
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Australia handed over information on Filipina-Australian woman Marilou Danley to help US authorities investigate her connections with mass-shooter Stephen Paddock.
The shooter’s neighbours said Ms Danley lived with Mr Paddock and was his “girlfriend”. She was reportedly in the Philippines at the time of the attack, but some of her personal ID may have been used to book Mr Paddock’s Vegas hotel room.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/10/03/australia-gave-us-information-vegas-gunmans-partner-marilou-danley
Danley’s husband, Geary Danley, is a diehard Democrat
https://ronbosoldier.blogspot.ca/2017/10/marilou-danleys-husband-diehard-democrat.html
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Another nutjob, assumes that the shooter’s girlfriend was the woman at the festival telling people they’re going to die, when she was actually in Manila on September 25, and is still out of the country now, probably still in the Philippines.
6 years ago
Reply to
Reality Check
More “probably” what are you? Her travel agent… or a self professed idiot, or both?
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Oh yeah, she’s definitely a burqa-wearing radical Islamist. Baring shoulders, working as a casino hostess, named Marilou probably after the Virgin Mary…
6 years ago
Reply to
Reality Check
And, oh yeah, was apparently married to a very liberal guy in Australia. Did he convert to Islam too? Even though Marilou is probably Christian?
6 years ago
Reply to
Reality Check
There are Christians in Indonesia although after the US supported massacre of the supposed PKI communists(actually most were Christian middle class Chinese…but it was a great excuse for the muslims) they are a steadily decreasing minority, as they are in all muslim countries.
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
As for either of them being “Muslim”, we need more than some bloggers word, and more than one primary source.
6 years ago
Reply to
Jim
Jim:
Of course more evidence would be helpful. And it appears that the Las Vegas Sheriff has more evidence.
6 years ago
Is Pamela confusing the echoes of the shots for a second shooter?
6 years ago
I don’t see a proof of anything in this video except people’s obliviousness and selfishness, even in the face of a catastrophic event. These were not the heroes. People were just standing around the hotel lobby like zombies. The cab driver is at the scene but doesn’t even consider calling 9-11 to report, she is waiting for someone else to tell her what to do. Then after she inadvertently rescues a group and has removed these people from a war zone, they seem reluctant to even acknowledge her as a person or pay her. Odd to say the least.
As far as the gun fire is concerned, the cab is moving around the structure and that might affect the loudness or softness of the sound.
We haven’t heard anything about what was recovered from Paddock’s home(s). I’m sure there must be a tremendous amount of material there, and perhaps the FBI does not want to tip their hand. For example, it was reported today that he wired $100K to someone in the Philippines. Marilou has been traveling in Japan. With someone of his level of sophistication and affluence I expect there will lots of evidence of what he was up to and who he was connected with. NY Post is reporting that the “roommate” Marilou, is now a person of interest.
6 years ago
How many times does Pam have to fumble before you stop taking her seriously?
6 years ago
Reply to
Reality Check
CNN is a proven serial lying propaganda organ for the OnePartyState.
6 years ago
Reply to
Reality Check
How many stupid comments do you have to make before being placed on “block user”.
6 years ago
Reply to
Reality Check
If you really reality check instead of half and half reality and the other half FAKE SNOPES.
6 years ago
Was Anders Breivik a Muslim convert too?
6 years ago
Reply to
Reality Check
Your red herring stinks just like your bunghole after evening prayers at your mosque.
6 years ago
It could have been the multiple weapons types that could explain the different sounds and loudness.
6 years ago
Reply to
Maelstrom_Vortex
Do you think it’s possible that Paddock was framed-possibly murdered? Their could have been other shooters? Either he converted to Islam or other Daesh shooters were in the room with him. He might have been set up by Islamic State terrorists. People said shots were fired from different angles. A hispanic woman gave a warning 45 minutes before the shooting occured. Plus, how could a 66 year old man fire so many rounds with a fully automatic weapon that’s so hard to hold? That’s a lot of fire power. That weapon requires special licensing that only certain authority figures have access to. Besides, their is no way one person could drag all that equipment to his hotel room. Did anyone check for fingerprints in the room? Everyone just assumed Paddock was the killer. Other people were involved and I am not even sure that Paddock shot anyone at all.
6 years ago
Reply to
cora L
Complete lunacy. No way a guy could bring ten bags of equipment into a hotel room? Couldn’t bump fire a semiautomatic rifle at a crowd? Some crazy Hispanic woman made a death threat, so she was in on the conspiracy too? Is that how ISIS operates, by sending people to warn about a terrorist attack?
6 years ago
Reply to
Reality Check
as ann barnhardt says, that “warning” could be, like the killings, a “demonic” event.
6 years ago
Reply to
cora L
Tripods were found next to the windows. radical islam? radical left? false flag? all are possibilities. he worked for lockheed & nasa, both a which has been involved in deep state skunkworks & blackworks. can we get a congressional inquiry or special commission? might there be a cover-up? etc etc etc.
6 years ago
You know, now that I listen to it around 3:40, the rate of fire does seem to slow down and speed up, which suggests that he really was using a bump stock rather than a fully automatic assault rifle.
6 years ago
Reply to
Reality Check
Reality Check: Yeah, I heard that too. Bump shooting came to my mind also. The cyclic rate of fire of the first three volleys seems to be somewhat it the area of 690 rounds per minute. That’s how it looked in the audio editing program I used to analyse the sound waves.
6 years ago
600+ plus rounds is a lot, even for a machine gun. And those are just the rounds that hit targets. Many more missed entirely. Long bursts occurred.
The barrel overheats on automatic weapons, and so they are fired in short bursts. An AR-15 [or M-16] rifle can be modified to run fully automatic, but they also overheat. And magazines would have to be changed on automatic rifles. This points to a man-portable light machine gun, with belt feeding, and two operators. [One to shoot, another to feed].
To cool the light machine gun, firing paused. Other, short-burst automatic rifles were used. This means there were probably three shooters, minimum. That would explain why two windows were broken.
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Do you ever hear more than one gun being fired at a time? I don’t. What, did the multiple shooters take turns?
6 years ago
Reply to
Reality Check
RC, agreed, not in any of the other videos released with the first 24 hours. No audio evidence of overlapping fire. I’m curious about the authenticity of the one on this page.
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
They make 120 round drums for the M16/AR15. I estimated about 120 rds fired non-stop, 3 different volleys (360 rds altogether) in the video I saw of the first fire. He could also have used two 60 round magazine taped together, although I did not see a pause in the in the 120 rds full auto gunfire in an audio editing program I used to analyse it with. That is, I didn’t see any lull in it. There’s a Youtube video of a guy firing two taped 60 rd mags. He makes the swap amazingly fast, but there is a small pause between the swap. Both mags were facing up, so no need to flip the mag 180. As for could he fire the weapon that long without the barrel melting? Again, there is a Youtube video of a guy firing weapons as fast as he can reload them, and he is able to go through quite of lot mags before jamming. I mean, the forearm is on fire and the gun still functions. He might have used a different weapon at the other window, giving the first rifle a little time to cool down. Incidentally, I also estimated that he fired 11.5 rds per second, approximately, which translates to a cyclic rate of fire of 690 rounds per minute, which is in the ballpark of an M16.
6 years ago
Reply to
Jim
Thanks. What do you think about
– additional shooters?
– a man-portable light machine gun?
– belt-fed vs mag fed?
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
I haven’t heard the audio from any early videos that have overlapping firing. Don’t know if the shooter had a class 3 license or not, so don’t know if he could buy a machinegun (MG). Besides, MGs manufactured after some date in the ’80’s are outlawed for civilian purchase legally. I’ve watched Youtube videos of FPSRussia firing a M16 and a M249 MG, and they sound very similar. However, I lean towards M16 with 120 drum magazine, or two taped 60 round mags with both facing up (so to swap quicker with flipping the other 180 degrees to insert it). It is quite clear in the audio of the first three volleys starting 10 seconds before the singer ran from the stage that he fired 120 rounds non-stop. Since they make magazines of that capacity, a belt is not needed to explain the continuous fire before apparently reloading the weapon. As to the audio on this page, not sure what to make of it. Acoustics do tricky things. Also, how certain are we that this video’s sound wasn’t edited? It doesn’t seem to match the gunfire in other videos. Did the police fire their weapons at all?
If you want to see the video of the guy firing weapons until they fail, search Youtube for ULTIMATE AR-15 MELTDOWN! He’s got a lot of videos on his “site” of other weapons he tries to “melt down”.
6 years ago
Reply to
Jim
Actually, I think the two 60 round mags weren’t taped. Instead, they were connected to a center block to keep them separated enough so the other mag did not interfere with this insertion of the other. Moreover, the one mag could be removed or reattached at will when desired. Search Youtube for dual mags on a M16. Sometimes, they might call them welded mags, but it is a misnomer in this case, since they detach from each other. We do not know what mags he really used, because they haven’t shown us that information yet.
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Hi. Gonna jump in here for a minute. I’ve been reading, listening, watching non stop about this massacre and I’ve pondered and debated scenarios with my boyfriend since this whole thing happened. The only point I wish to elaborate on is overlapping/nearly overlapping shooting, which I heard immediately in a particular video. If y’all want the link I can find it. But, there is definitely a rifle with a bump-stock blowing through rounds, maybe about a third of a mag (20 rounds- it’s been a few days since I last heard it so I could be wrong). However, unless he somehow was able to hang on to his bump-stock rifle and another rifle at the same time, I think it’s very unlikely there was one shooter. You can hear the rapid succession of many rounds and immediately after, you hear more of a burst fire – like a rifle with an echo trigger performimg a three round burst. Immediately after that third round goes off, we are back to hearing the bump-stock rifle. The rifle with the burst sounds closer and suppressed and almost like it’s coming from the opposite direction. Has anyone else heard this video? Also, the video from the helicopter flying over the festival grounds, flying close to the building to the point you can see inside the shooter’s room, shows what appears to be three broken windows, not just two. They’re all on the same level of the same room. One on the farther side and two more directly above the fair grounds. I think this is my last point, unless something else pops in my head before I wrap this up. In the photos that were leaked from inside the suite, where you can see the shooter’s feet and left hand with a black glove, there is a rifle standing on its bipod with his left leg underneath the rifle. It looks like it was placed there. Originally, I didn’t see that. I was looking at the chair that was by the broken window and I noticed how his body was at an angle. I thought he was kneeling on the chair, with the backrest against the window, resting a rifle on it, shooting at the angle in which is body is positioned, he blew his brains out and fell back onto the floor. The rifle nearly over his leg just doesn’t make sense. I also read an interview from a man that was in the room just below him, credible or not, it stood out to me because it made sense and potentially confirmed my thoughts. He stated that after the room was infiltrated by the SWAT team, it sounded like people were moving furniture around. I know there were multiple people who ran up in the suite and caused a lot of commotion searching for any other people but.. the sounds of furniture moving around? I don’t know what to think of that. Or any of this really. I really like trying to play the what if game and speculate and play scenarios of what could have happened, but it’s driving me up a wall and I want answers!
6 years ago
Reply to
Hailey
To clarify- when I said like the suppressed rifle was coming from the opposite direction, I meant the opposite direction from Paddock. Meaning, the suppressed rifle was shooting into the crowd from behind, towards the hotel and stage.
6 years ago
Reply to
Jim
Well also he had 20 guns in his room the police said. switches guns. switches windows. plus when he was young, his dad was known as a heavily armed user of many illegal guns, his arrest warrant said. he learned from the worst of fathers. plus he’s a gambler of $30,000 a day – that sounds like a heavy gambolholic. heavy addictions have heavy shadow selves. and what was the relationship – was iton the rocks? all important questions. add hatred of trumpees, hatred of country music, maybe even hatred of his employ by lockheed and nasa, who knows….but all plausible…
6 years ago
Reply to
Cannonkat
Cannon, yes, a lot of unknowns, and little factual information from authorities.
6 years ago
Cool story, you want to give a history lesson on the Jewish Defense League next?
6 years ago
Both can be heard from the same cab location. Hadn’t moved yet. Different caliper possible yes, but also different location.
I disagree that a guy went bonkers. No. Somebody was trying to make a statement. Smells like ISIS all the way.
6 years ago
Breaking: Paddock was a Jihadi
http://barenakedislam.com/2017/10/03/the-fbi-has-already-closed-the-door-on-any-islamic-jihad-connection-to-the-las-vegas-shooting-massacre-but-this-former-fbi-counter-terrorism-expert-has-not/?utm_content=bufferc1b4e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
“The Islamic State has never claimed responsibility for an attack that was not carried out by a jihadi.”
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
We need at least two reliable sources before accepting this. Still waiting. Another news site (not MSN) said that she commented on a FB picture, naming some beach in Dubai. Only source for that piece as well.
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Wrong, as I pointed out before. ISIS claimed responsibility for a botched robbery in Manila, where the gunman didn’t shoot anybody but himself.
Claiming responsibility for attacks they had nothing to do with shows their weakness and desperation, which is a good sign.
6 years ago
Acoustics are a funny thing. I once failed to hear a battery of 12 lb cannon firing about 200 yds on the other side of a small hill. At that range I should have felt the ground rumbling and shaking, but I did not. I didn’t hear them, or the musket fire until I crested the hill. Strange stuff. The sound difference in the audio could be due to how the microphone was angled and changed angle or direction. If the vehicle was moving, if could be due to different acoustics at different points during the travel. Also, the shooter was firing from two different windows in different directions. Do we know the timeline of the video? Not sure what to make of this audio.
6 years ago
Reply to
Bob
I forgot to mention that when we crested the hill we were told that they had been firing, both cannon and muskets, yelling and screaming, for 15 minutes already. Never heard any of it until I crested the ridge. It was at sunrise on a very quiet morning on a farm in the country, yet heard nothing. Acoustics depend on a lot of things, air temperature, wind currents, direction of the microphone, quality of the microphone, surroundings which might amplify or deaden sound, echos, etc. Besides, this sound does not jibe with the sound in the other videos. Where is this in the timeline of the shooting? Was it edited and modified? Do we accept its authenticity on face value? I don’t know, too many variables.
6 years ago
But would the F-I_B lie to us about islamic terrorism? Does Il Papa poop in the Vatican?
6 years ago
All kinds of buildings, reflections (both light and sound), noise can do strange things.
6 years ago
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Alleged-Comment
Alleged: Also the angle of the microphone and the direction it is aimed, which seemed to vary quite a bit. Acoustics do strange things to the ear.
6 years ago
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Bob
…and strange things on microphones. Ask any musician about mic placement on drums or acoustic instruments. Location of the mic varies the sound quite a bit. This mic in this video is being moved in all kinds of directions, both the car and the user who is holding the camera, relative to the sound source.
6 years ago
Yes, make it LIKE two people.
6 years ago
Can’t convince me he acted alone. We may never know the truth.
6 years ago
That video was too long and pretty unwatchable. A discription of what is shown with some time stamp info would make this piece informative. But otherwise, it’s just worthless.
6 years ago
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pearl87 ✓ᴰᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ
Pearl, yes, I’d also like to know where it fits into the timeline of volleys because its audio does not fit with the earlier released videos. Short bursts of fire (maybe 10 to 20 rounds) as opposed to 120 round continuous bursts heard in the other videos. Maybe this was taken in the middle or near the end. Other questions: How authentic is this video? Has it been altered, edited, or modified? It would take long to modify it on a computer. Could be done in less than a hour. Not saying it was, just that it would be possible. As a amatuer musician, I know something about sound editing, just sayin’. 🙂 Maybe it is authentic, just recorded somewhere else in the timeline.
6 years ago
Or maybe you’re not sure which window will give the best advantage. Or you want to let the other gun cool down while firing another rifle from the other window. Or the perp decided he didn’t like the first broken window, for whatever reason, I broke a second window he liked better. Lots of possibilities. Not comforting, I know, but we simply do not have enough information yet.
6 years ago
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Jim
All I’m saying is that only one is *sufficient* to do this. This is a possibility too.
6 years ago
In the report below he is said to have fired a couple hundred shots through the door as police approached his door before the swat team arrived. I am wondering if this might account for the different sound of shots in the taxi driver video. In that video it sounds like there are two different shooters because of the very distinct difference in the shots. But there would be a big difference in the sound between firing out the window into the mall and firing from the room into the hotel.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/unarmed-security-guard-jesus-campos-took-on-las-vegas-killer-stephen-paddock
6 years ago
There were two other Hotels that were closer to the concert than the Mandalay hotel, and even closer still was an oil storage tank only about 300 yards away. The other two hotels had an open roof top that was easy to gain access to and had good spots for viewing the concert area. They were 600 to 900 yards away, while the Mandalay was 1,100 yards or more away. Not sure if the firings from the various rifles Paddock was using could have been effective from 1,100 yards or more. The number of people he wounded or killed indicated that he was hitting his target with every three or four shots fired. Pretty damn accurate from 1,100 yards. Thus It is much more likely many shots were being fired from a closer position. This indicates that more than one other person was likely involved. Makes one wonder, what the hell was going on here?
