Tucker: “Every city in America has become worse over the past few years… Your concern is that Ukraine don’t have enough tanks… Where’s the concern for America in that?”
Pence: “That’s not my concern.”
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Tucker: "Every city in America has become worse over the past few years… Your concern is that Ukraine don't have enough tanks… Where's the concern for America in that?"
Tucker Carlson Checkmates Mike Pence: ‘Every City in the U.S Has Become Much Worse over the Past Three Years’
By: David Hawkins, Slay News, July 14, 2023:
Star news anchor Tucker Carlson grilled former Vice President Mike Pence during a Republican 2024 candidate forum today.
During the discussion, Carlson shamed Pence for backing the endless war in Ukraine while the quality of life sinks for many Americans.
“I’m sorry, Mr. Vice President,” Carlson said to Pence.
“You are distressed that the Ukrainians don’t have enough American tanks?
“Drive around. There’s not one city that’s gotten better. And it’s visible.
“Our economy has degraded, the suicide rate has jumped, public filth and disorder and crime have exponentially increased, and yet your concern is that the Ukrainians, a country most people can’t find on a map, don’t have enough tanks?
Pence: “That’s not my concern.”
Absolutely incredible. Here is the entire Ukraine discussion between @TuckerCarlson and Mike Pence.
Tucker asks Pence about religious persecution in Ukraine, and he completely denies it. Tucker follows up, and Pence gets flustered. Pence then tells the ridiculous lie that Putin… pic.twitter.com/KA5FjqSKUM
Tucker Carlson’s performance as moderator of the Family First Summit in Iowa may prove to be a pivotal moment in the 2024 GOP primary. The fired Fox News host was the star of the show on Friday at Des Moines, where one candidate after the other was subjected to his probing interrogatories on everything from transgender children to Ukraine to whether the 2020 election was stolen by the Democrats and President Biden.
Mr. Carlson, whose high-profile departure from Fox News only partially de-platformed him, was the star of the show, even more so than the candidates he was interviewing.
He began the day sitting opposite Senator Scott of South Carolina, to whom Mr. Carlson made clear the issue he most wanted to discuss: American involvement in the ongoing Russian invasion of Ukraine. “Are you concerned that we’re moving toward war with Russia?” Mr. Carlson asked.
“America’s national, vital interest is degrading the Russian military,” Mr. Scott responded. “When we degrade the Russian military, we make sure that our home front is safer, and that our NATO allied partners — that would cause us to send soldiers over — [are] safe.” The “primary objective,” Mr. Scott said, is to invest in the Ukrainian defense so that the threat of Russian expansion farther into Europe would be contained.
Mr. Carlson — in a sign of how he would treat many of the candidates throughout the day — struggled to mask his dissatisfaction with that answer.
“You’re saying it’s in our national interest — vital national interest — is to degrade the Russian military, in other words to fight Russia’s military with other people’s soldiers?” he asked, leading Mr. Scott down a line of inquiry that would end with Mr. Carlson openly disagreeing with the senator. “The United States military cannot as you know … actually defeat Russia and China united,” Mr. Carlson told him.
The sharp questions and interjections from Mr. Carlson were frequent throughout the day, with most of the candidates arousing his ire when the discussions eventually made their way to the war.
When Vice President Pence took the stage, Mr. Carlson spent a few minutes asking about the events of January 6, 2021, but then spent the latter part of their “fireside chat” focused solely on Ukraine and Mr. Pence’s ironclad support for the embattled nation, which irritated Mr. Carlson.
At one point, Mr. Carlson brought up the reported persecution of Orthodox Christians by the Ukrainian government, and asked how Mr. Pence reconciles his own devout Christian faith and commitment to the free exercise of religion while also supporting Ukraine despite those alleged abuses.
Mr. Pence — in a rare sign of frustration from the typically unflappable Midwesterner — sternly replied that he had met with both the Ukrainian president, Volodomyr Zelensky, and the head of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church during his recent visit to Kyiv, both of whom denied such persecution was occurring.
“I sincerely wonder how a Christian leader can support the arrest of Christians for having different views,” Mr. Carlson said to the former vice president. Mr. Pence quickly pushed back, insisting that arrests were not happening, which led Mr. Carlson to grow even more frustrated.
“The problem is you don’t accept my answer,” Mr. Pence said to Mr. Carlson, raising his hand and talking over the former Fox News host. “I just told you that I asked the religious leader in Kyiv if it was happening. You asked me if I raised the issue and I did,” Mr. Pence continued, raising his voice.
Mr. Carlson nearly brought the conversation to the point of shouting while trying to reconcile Mr. Pence’s support for Ukraine with what Mr. Carlson called the lack of investment in America’s cities, which have become “much worse” in recent years, he claimed.
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