Iran’s attack on Saudi oil production shows Bolton was right

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War is inevitable.

Iran’s Return Handshake

An attack on Saudi oil production shows John Bolton was right.

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Since President Trump withdrew from the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, the Islamic Republic has tested U.S. resolve with military escalation across the Middle East. Likely Iranian involvement in attacks on Saudi oil production over the weekend marks a new phase in this destabilizing campaign, and it’s no coincidence this happened as Mr. Trump is considering a softer approach to Tehran.

Saudi Arabia reduced daily oil production by about 5.7 million barrels after strikes against facilities in the country’s east on Saturday. Iran-backed Houthi rebels claimed credit, though Secretary of State Mike Pompeo tweeted that Iran was responsible and there was “no evidence the attacks came from Yemen.” Iran denies this, but it usually uses proxies to avoid a direct confrontation and there are no other plausible culprits.

This is more than a local dispute between two regional powers. The attacks have caused a roughly 5% reduction in global daily oil production. The Saudis have promised to dip into reserves to offset the losses, but oil prices could rise and harm an already fragile global economy if the Kingdom isn’t able to restore production fast enough.

American shale oil production can take up some of the slack but that would take time. Long-term damage to oil supplies would increase the pressure on the U.S. to ease sanctions on Iranian oil exports, which Mr. Trump has been considering.

U.S. satellite imagery showing about 17 points of impact on key infrastructure. (US official)

The attack continues what is already a hot proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia, an important U.S. ally. The extent of the damage raises doubts about how well the Saudis can defend against future drone assaults. Saudi intelligence and air defenses don’t seem up to the job. Saudi revenues would be hurt by a reduction in oil output, and uncertainty will complicate an initial public offering of the country’s national oil company, Aramco.

Even if the Houthis didn’t carry out this attack, Iran is backing their war against an Arab coalition in Yemen. The Houthis have become increasingly aggressive in attacking sites in Saudi Arabia and oil tankers in the Red Sea. If the Saudis cede Yemen to the Houthis, Iran will have won another proxy war, this one on the Arabian peninsula. The Saudis are far from ideal allies, but U.S. Senators who want to end U.S. support for Riyadh should consider the alternative of Iranian regional dominance.

The White House says Mr. Trump spoke with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and pledged U.S. support. But the White House should be contemplating more than words.

The Iranians are probing Mr. Trump as much as the Saudis. They are testing his resolve to carry out his “maximum pressure” campaign, and they sense weakness. Iran shot down an American drone this summer, and Mr. Trump rejected advice for a military response. Qassem Soleimani, commander of Iran’s overseas Quds Force, has historically interpreted such restraint as a signal that he’s winning and can safely escalate.

Mr. Trump is also eager for direct talks with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, and Mr. Pompeo floated a handshake meeting between the two at the coming United Nations General Assembly. Mr. Trump has even contemplated support for French President Emmanuel Macron ’s idea of paying the mullahs a $15 billion bribe for better behavior. The weekend attack is Iran’s return handshake.

The exact extent of the damage from the drone attack wasn’t immediately clear. (US official)

U.S. sanctions have hurt Iran’s crude oil exports, but Tehran still earns hundreds of millions of dollars a month from other petroleum products. Senator Lindsey Graham says direct attacks on Iranian oil production should be considered, and the Islamic Republic needs to know that is not off the table.

The Saudi coalition also needs more help interdicting Iranian arms shipments to the Houthis. Americans are understandably wary of deeper involvement in Yemen, but a victory for Iran and the rise of a Hezbollah-like regime in Sana’a will harm U.S. security interests. Think another Syria and Lebanon.

Black char marks at the center of the facility suggested the attack struck at the heart of the processing facility. (European Commission)

Mr. Trump might also apologize to John Bolton, who warned repeatedly that Iran would take advantage of perceived weakness in the White House. Mr. Bolton resigned last week over policy differences, notably on Iran. The weekend’s events proved the former adviser right. The Trump Administration’s pressure campaign has been working, and abandoning it now would encourage Tehran to take more military risks.

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joe shmoe
joe shmoe
4 years ago

let SA and iran fight it out… lets sit back and stay out of it this time

caliroxanne
caliroxanne
4 years ago
Reply to  joe shmoe

It is excellent when Muslims kill Muslims! Love it! But when oi is involved and our economy is threatened, we can’t just sit back. I absolutely do not want to waste any more American blood and treasure, but aggressively going after Iran’s enablers would be a nice start. Germany can either sell Mercedes and BMW’s to Iran or America, but not both, for example. Also, I have no problem using the Harry S Truman approach, if need be.

joe shmoe
joe shmoe
4 years ago
Reply to  caliroxanne

trump got us to be oil exporter nation status thru fracking, so we no longer have a dog in this fight. we can happily sell oil to europe

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
4 years ago
Reply to  joe shmoe

A nuclear armed Iran, one that dominates the Persian Gulf, is not in America’s best interests. For better or worse- and to a far less extent than formerly- we are the world’s hegemon.

joe shmoe
joe shmoe
4 years ago

we dont need a prolonged war with iran, this would set back our many gains, the saudis cant afford a nuke in iranian hands either, let them settle this

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago
Reply to  joe shmoe

This is the only reason the Saudis talk to Israel. They are threatened by Iran just as Israel is. Neither should expect us to start another endless war for them as we have done in the past under incompetent Presidents and people like John Bolton whose solution was to ALWAYS go to war. Bolton He was all for the invasion in Iraq, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, Yemen, North Korea and even Viet Nam. It was smart of Trump to dump Bolton unless you prefer to repeat the same establishment mistakes over and over and over again!

caliroxanne
caliroxanne
4 years ago
Reply to  joe shmoe

Thankfully we have tons of American oil, but unfortunately, oil is a global commodity and its price is set globally.

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago
Reply to  caliroxanne

U.S. pricing affects the global market price.
We are no longer dependent on Muslims to set the price.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
4 years ago
Reply to  caliroxanne

The extent of the oil supply disruption may be overstated
Today, oil prices are up slightly [$2/barrel] but not by much
– ARAMCO says they will have 2 million barrels a day back online by today.
Also, notice that if oil prices go up, USA oil revenues will increase, and oil fracking will expand accordingly. But meanwhile, Iran will still suffer, because they are exporting a tiny 100K barrels per day now. Thanks to Trump’s sanctions.

SoftwareBabeOHIO
SoftwareBabeOHIO
4 years ago
Reply to  joe shmoe

WINNING!

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago
Reply to  joe shmoe

Correct!
This is why Obama opposed fracking. He wanted us dependent on unstable Muslim countries.

VTS
VTS
4 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Not only Obama. All democretins who run for president.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
4 years ago
Reply to  VTS

Bush too.

cylde
cylde
4 years ago
Reply to  caliroxanne

There were no reports of casualties and most of the workers are non-muslims anyway. The only news reports claim they only attack wedding parties in Yemen. Can’t they fInd some fighters to kill???

Hans Wellington
Hans Wellington
4 years ago
Reply to  caliroxanne

It makes me happy too when Muslims kill each other. They are good in that, they have been doing it for 1400 years, killing about 270 Million people who were fortunately mostly Muslims. So, come on Muslims, keep on inbreeding in order to produce more simple minded cannon fodder to kill each other.

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago
Reply to  joe shmoe

Absolutely!

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
4 years ago

Roger Simon, over on pjmedia (Ref 1) had a spot on commentary that develops a thesis I have enunciated here and which I recommend people read in its entirety:

The raid on the Saudi oil fields was at least as big as Pearl Harbor, possibly bigger, if you think about it, especially in terms of the amount of physical damage done. Whether this was accomplished directly by Iran or by one of its proxies or whether drone or cruise missiles or both were involved are distinctions without a difference. …

The Islamic Republic and its holdings) must be punished severely or they will continue their actions, pushing further and further as they have been. You can claim this last one was an attack on Saudi Arabia, not us, but this is the world’s oil supply. It affects economies around the globe. In cases like this, there are no national borders. Iran cannot be allowed to continue under any circumstances. You don’t have to like the Saudis to see the extreme danger. …

This absolutely should not mean putting American boots on the ground under any circumstances. It should be an air obliteration of anything associated with the mullahs and their Revolutionary Guard, including oil fields, ports, factories, military installations, and nuclear sites. Keep doing it until they scream. Leave the results for the Iranian people to sort out when we’re done. [emphasis added- and I disagree with taking out their oil fields. LS]

It will be rough for them, of course, but on multiple occasions, the Iranians have shown great bravery in demonstrations against the mullahs. With the U.S. solidly and publicly behind regime change (not ignoring the people when they cry out to him the way Obama did), it should inspire the demonstrators to finish the job this time. You’re dreaming if you think Iran can change without regime change.

Some fool here a week or two ago- felix, I believe- claimed there was NO POINT in the United States “being in” the Middle East. People without a clue should not comment.

Ref 1: https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/trump-must-punish-the-mullahs-severely/

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago

Oh to laugh …. you, little LIAR spittoon calling others “fool”. TOO funny, coming from something, such as you, with the intellect of an aphid.
How’s your Make-Believe “Korean wife” doing?
comment image

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
4 years ago

How’s your Make-Believe “Korean wife” doing?

Speaking of commenting about things you know nothing about, jackass!

For anyone who might have the slightest curiousity, this goon Achmed’s “proof” that I don’t have a Korean immigrant wife is this. After I noted that I was married to a Korean immigrant, he commented here in transliterated Hangul (probably from Google). I didn’t bother responding to his twaddle. By not doing so, in this cretin’s mind, I “proved” that I was not married to a Korean.

Go figure. Does anyone need further evidence of the mendacious banality of these goons here?

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago

It wasn’t transliterated idiot, it was Romanized Hanguk mal. You are a very poorly educated liar. Nothing will alter that one simple fact.
Once again, a recent picture of your Make-Believe “Korean” wife.
comment image

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
4 years ago

It wasn’t transliterated idiot,

transliterate means to represent or spell the characters of another alphabet. That is exactly what you did when you represented Korean language sentences in the Roman alphabet, you ignoramus.

Q.E.D., goon.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago

That’s not what was done. You truly ARE a blithering idiot’s blithering idiot. Romanizing is to use the accepted phonetics, for a particular language which, in this case, iscomment image Hanguk mal. It has nothing to do with the actual alphabet, which in this case would be Hangul You, once again, have shown how exceedingly POOR your education is … and, how STUPID you are.
Once again, a picture of your Make-Believe “Korean” wife:

caliroxanne
caliroxanne
4 years ago

Absolutely true! They know how to fight and win. They slaughter thousands of civilians on 9/11, and in response we wage war on Islamophobia and battle for hearts and minds. We are, indeed, a bunch of stupid, well-trained dhimmis!

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
4 years ago
Reply to  caliroxanne

Here is what we know for sure:

Someone attacked the Saudi oil facilities with multiple cruise missiles and/or drones. For sure, this was an attack on Saudi Arabia, not the USA.The best evidence at this point suggests an Iran-sponsored attack from a base in Iraq. This is not proven conclusively, but it is the best evidence right now. Trump said correctly that the Houthis did not do it. They lack the capability, and the missiles/drones did not come from Houthi territory. For sure, Iran is denying all responsibility, but they always say that. So far, Trump has been restrained in any military action. Iran is now exporting about 100K barrels per day, and that is tiny compared to their previous 2.5 million barrels per day. Even China is shunning Iranian oil. And for sure, Iranian leaders have expressed serious concerns about loss of revenue from oil sales.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
4 years ago
Reply to  caliroxanne

Also known as vain, cowardly wretches.

caliroxanne
caliroxanne
4 years ago

Bolton is a smart guy. Ron / Rand and Alex, not so smart. Bolton understands that unapologetic projection of strength, contrary to what Ron, Rand and Alex say, does not mean that Bolton is a “neocon warmonger’ whose only prescription is war. I don’t want war and I definitely don’t want to sacrifice more American blood and treasure, but there is a lot that can and should be done from a perspective of strength other than war as Bolton advocates.

SoftwareBabeOHIO
SoftwareBabeOHIO
4 years ago

While I agree that NEGOTIATION (not to be mistaken for COMPROMISE) IS A 1ST STEP to getting what you want IN A PEACEFUL SOLUTION TO AN EXISTING PROBLEM, there are times when you cannot use it.

Bowing to evil Leaders and countries CANNOT be used as a negotiation tactic, because EVIL does not want negotiation. Instead, they will lie to you and deceive to get what THEY want all in the guise of negotiation, a handshake, and a smile. BOLTON KNOWS THIS ALL TOO WELL and I thought President Trump did, but I guess not.

I do not know what went down between Trump and Bolton, but I think Trump lost a truly great ally in Bolton, a man who would tell him the TRUTH no matter what. JUST because you do not agree with someone’s advice, does not mean you part ways. ADVISOR means just that. It does not mean TAKING OVER COMMAND. If Trump did not agree with Bolton’s advice, then tell him so, but KEEP HIM AROUND TO TELL YOU ANOTHER SIDE, not just a negotiation side. Something smells very fishy here.

BOLTON, I BELIEVE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST ADVISORS ANY PRESIDENT WILL EVER HAVE.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
4 years ago

Saudi oil update:
“We should be able to have 2 million barrels a day back online…by tomorrow,” one of the MarketWatch sources said on Sunday. On Tuesday, Aramco will issue a progress update, chief executive Amin Nasser said.
– the extent of the oil supply disruption may be overstated
– today, oil prices are up slightly [$2/barrel] but not by much

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago

John Bolton is not an honorable man and if anything John Bolton owes Trump an apology! I am surprised Trump didn’t dump him a long time ago. Bolton’s agenda has always been different than Trump’s agenda on foreign policy. Bolton is incapable of any kind of empathy or of viewing the world from someone else’s perspective. He has a history of this as an establishment neoconservative. Trump is not adverse to hearing another side of an issue and probably why he gave him a chance, however the ultimate decision lies with Trump not rogue Bolton. Trump has made no bones about it that endless, pointless wars are not part of his agenda. Trump also made it clear as a campaign promise he wanted to clear out of the middle east and if need be, bomb the shiiiit out of Syria and get ISIS out and start withdrawing troops out of Syria, Afghanistan etc. We have been in Afghanistan 18 years! Trump did that and wanted to start withdrawing troops. Mattis objected to the withdraw and honorably resigned. That was the right thing to do. Mattis was great in unleashing our military and destroying ISIS but beyond that Trump and Mattis were not in agreement. The difference between Mattis and Bolton is, Bolton tried to undermine Trump and huddled with Obama loyalists and establishment people that also like endless wars. Notice NO ONE was cleaned out at the state department because they had the same agenda as Bolton – thwart Trump’s agenda and keep the money making war machine humming!

The U.S. has spent over six trillion dollars on these pointless wars in the middle east and all we got out of it was Americans killed, maimed and more debt . It was time for another approach – diplomacy! Trump is the kind of guy who will give someone a chance. He kept McMaster’s around for while and then dumped him. Bolton knew Trump’s approach was to be diplomatic rather than using military force, but he took the job anyway and proceeded to try and subvert Trump’s agenda. Try doing that in the private sector with your boss when you disagree with him/her – you don’t last. While Trump is open minded, he was clear on what direction he wanted and it was not a military one. John Bolton is a war monger and always had been. He was all for the invasion in Iraq, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, Yemen, North Korea and even Viet Nam. I guess the best way to describe Bolton is he can’t see a solution beyond war. Diplomacy is not in Bolton’s lexicon. At best John Bolton is an establishment neoconservative hooked on the same failed approaches. It was time to take a different tact and he couldn’t adjust to it.

Bolton thought he would try to sabotage Trump as he did with negotiations when working under Secretary of State, Colin Powell when negotiating with North Korea. Oh how we forget Bolton’s history when it is convenient! John Bolton also has a reputation for being “rude and undiplomatic”. That surfaced again in North Korea. It’s a terrible reflection on the U.S. when you are asked to never return for negotiations. He almost single handedly hosed further negotiations with his stupid mouth. That happened with North Korea’s, Kim Jong-un. On March 19. 2018 he told radio Free Asia that he hopes Trump will follow the 2004 Libya model and just have NK give up their nuclear weapons or it could be a “very short meeting” if Kim refuses. Bolton also suggested that to Kim and this became a sticking point with Kim. Bolton, the tactless dumb arse that he is failed to note, Kim has used Libya on numerous occasions as an example of WHY he needs nuclear weapons – to deter a U.S. invasion. Clearly there is no path to success there and undermines Trump’s campaign promise and diplomacy agenda. It would be absurd to think Kim would go along with that. Kim is further along in nuclear weapon development than Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi. Gaddafi was in the infancy of nuclear weapons and was later killed. It’s positively laughable that Bolton would believe that Kim would agree to that. It should be no surprise that Kim demanded Bolton not return in any capacity for further negotiation. Kim is not about to make larger concessions for nothing. This is more of an exclamation of Trump’s tweet on the Libya model and North Korea.

Sorry John, my way or the highway didn’t work here and you are the one that got the highway! The idea that others should give up everything in exchange for nothing removes any doubt in my mind that you had no sincere desire for a diplomatic solution and just looking for a pretext for a military conflict. I find it hard to believe Bolton was not trying to sabotage Trump’s negotiations with Kim with such an absurd suggestion! If he thought he was going to railroad Trump, he was wrong! Good riddance John Bolton! That’s just my opinion!

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
4 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

John Bolton is not an honorable man … Bolton, the tactless dumb arse that he is

I do not believe you, and you certainly have not made the case for a charge like that. Exposulating on things about which you know nothing seems to be a regular habit for you.

Well, ok, I will grant that he is often tactelss.

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago

Trump is in no hurry to appease Iran or talk to them. He doesn’t need to nor is he eager to undo the effect his successful sanctions have had on Iran or go along with Macrons 15 million dollar line of credit that would undo Trump sanctions and relieve Iran’s tanking economy and unrest. This sure looks like FAKE NEWS to me! With the source being the WSJ, I’d say this is exaggerated. They have not been happy with Trump’s foreign policy or approach to trade with China because they are losing money.

Trump will talk to anyone but Iran’s precondition for a meeting to go back to the Obama’s verbal, Iran nuclear deal won’t happen. Yemen is a proxy for hard up Iran. I see the usual Bolton establishment solution …. go to war! LOL! We don’t need Iran’s oil. We have our own. We aren’t suffering financially – Iran is! Frankly, Trump inherited a mess for foreign policy. It’s been decades of bad decisions from Republicans and Democrats. Iran is showing signs of desperation…..

US approves $1.1 billion sale to Saudi Arabia of military equipment and services
By Fergus Kelly
March 23, 2018
https://thedefensepost.com/2018/03/23/us-saudia-arabia-sale-military-equipment/

Maybe it’s time for Saudi Arabia to step up? That’s part of the plan….. Let the Muslim countries fight it out!
I wouldn’t know what has been delivered or what they have or if they need our help.

cylde
cylde
4 years ago

Since there are no reports of even one drone being intercepted one is forced to assume there was no defensive systems in place. Why not????????

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
4 years ago
Reply to  cylde

one is forced to assume there was no defensive systems in place.

No clyde, there are defenses in place. They are not impregnable.

If it really was drones, they have low radar signatures and fly close to the ground. As such, they are often difficult to detect with radar intended for more sophisticated attack vectors. Drones however, do require a re-evaluation of air defense systems.

cylde
cylde
4 years ago

And you know this how????????? Zero interceptions?? Radar does not take out aircraft, it merely can see them at a distance if they are high enough and someone is paying attention.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
4 years ago
Reply to  cylde

Oh, brother … dunno if I should bother responding to you or not, but I will give it one try.

And you know this how????????? Zero interceptions?? Radar does not take out aircraft,…

At very least Ref 1, from a few weeks ago, brings into question your assertion of “Zero interceptions”. The Saudis have intercepted a lot, but this attack appears to have come from a source other than the Houthis, possibly using systems that the Saudis have not encountered.

Ref 2, a perhaps more authoritative source, has this to say about the attack:

The Saudi and U.S. aerial defense systems, deployed in several bases in Saudi Arabia explicitly for this purpose, failed to intercept the drones or foil the attack.

I would turn your question back to you: what makes you make such a broad, unqualified assertion as:

there was no defensive systems (sic) in place.?

You have made a maximal claim that, taken at face value, is arrantly wrong- it doesn’t hold up to plausibility or casual challenge. I can only wonder what makes you think you can reasonably make such a fatuous claim.

Yes, I am aware that radar “does not take out aircraft”. I did not suggest that it does. But thank you for your insight into the situation- at least you are correct about that point.

Ref 1: https://www.arabnews.com/tags/saudi-air-defense-forces

Ref 2: https://www.memri.org/reports/attack-saudi-oil-facilities-implementation-irans-explicit-threats-recent-months-target-saudi

cylde
cylde
4 years ago

12 years in the air force working in aircraft and control, radio communications, radar systems, and electronic counter measures, qualifies my opinion not some web sites.

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago
Reply to  cylde

Latrine is just another brain dead liberal.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
4 years ago
Reply to  cylde

Then I would think you would know better than to make the claim of “no defenses”. You should be well aware of the continual one up a ship between offensive and defensive systems, and that overall recent trends favor the former.

Sorry, you do not come off as authoritative in the slightest, sir.

cylde
cylde
4 years ago

your defense of failure is incoherent.

Shuali
Shuali
4 years ago

Dismissing Bolton was a colossal error on Trump’s part. It is also an error to indicate that negotiations are possible with Iran……worst message to send Tehran and the Mullahs. They will have Trump eating out of their hands if DJT is not very careful and very resolute to rid the world of the regime in Tehran.

lostlegends
lostlegends
4 years ago

The attackers did not attack the USA. Yemen is not a security interest of the USA. Pamela offered no explanation of what that security interest might be. Blank out. No more regime change wars. We are bankrupt and can’t afford it. Kiss the dollar goodbye. Pamela did not offer any words on just what her war to protect Israel would achieve, how it would end, what would victory be. Blank out. China is an ally of Iran, so is Russia and 3 other countries. My college age sons are not available to draft for another endless, winless perpetual war. China gets oil from Iran and Saudi as does India. USA out of the Persian Gulf. Pam’s security interest is Israel and using USA to fight their war. Shades of August, 1914. When the shooting starts the best laid plans go out the window.

lostlegends
lostlegends
4 years ago

Pam has offered no proof Iran did the attack, nor has the US government. Just assertions. What a flimsy excuse to start a war Pam desperately wants. Let Pam demand her son-in-laws go join the IDF. Let Pam demand her daughters join the IDF. Claudia, the girl with no job, go get a job with the IDF. Demand Jackie, no problems, put on an IDF uniform, and have some problems to solve. BiBi the Net went to see Putin. He wanted photo opps for his election. Putin told him if he attacks Syria again Russian gunners will use the Russian S-400 AA missiles to shoot his planes down. Bibi went home with his tail between his legs. No air attacks by Bibi since on Syria. Or Irag. Putin put him on notice. I was supporting Bibi, but no more. Time for a change at the top. Power corrupts and has corrupted Bibi, too long in power. I pray it’s not too late.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
4 years ago
Reply to  lostlegends

Putin told him if he attacks Syria again Russian gunners will use the
Russian S-400 AA missiles to shoot his planes down. Bibi went home with
his tail between his legs.

I very much doubt that you have any idea what Putin said to Netanyahu. Get real!

lostlegends
lostlegends
4 years ago

What Putin said was published widely in the news. No mystery there.

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago
Reply to  lostlegends

I believe the sentiment driving this is fear is Israel being attacked by Iran. Israel has shown they are quite capable of defending themselves and if they are not, while Trump is President he will. Globalist and others who are not globalists mistakenly love the idea of bombing the shiiiit out of a country and then rebuilding it and replacing their government with our system and freedoms. That has been proven to be a FAILURE in any Muslim country. Muslims do want our money but not our freedom or form of government. Also there will NEVER, EVER be lasting peace in the middle east – EVER! Muslims are devious back stabbing people without a conscience.

ALL we have ever gotten out of war in the middle east is DEAD and MAIMED U.S. soldiers, escalating DEBT and Muslim terrorists, er “Muslim “refugees” that are trying to take OUR country down and make us the Sharia Law shiiithole they “fled” from. I don’t see Israel or Europe looking to reimburse US for the DEBT we ran up with this failed nation building crap that Bolton was trying to implement behind Trump’s back. All he did was huddle with Obama holdovers who wanted the same thing for different reasons. Today even the appearance is gone of being united as a coalition with Europe. Europe sides WITH Iran so it would all be on the U.S. to continue fighting a pointless war with the outcome described.. TRILLIONS have been wasted on Muslim wars in the middle east and ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

All I can say, and it may not be popular here but THANK GOD TRUMP FIRED JOHN BOLTON or if you prefer, JOHN BOLTON resigned. Bolton needs to take his war mongering and put it where the sun doesn’t shine.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
4 years ago

You can forget about American shale oil easing global production deficit as long as America is hogtied with wackos and lefties who give no ground enabling build up of oil storage and transportation infrastructure needed RIGHT NOW.

AZ gal
AZ gal
4 years ago

israel is the only country in that region to put Iran in its place. We’ll see what happens.

Rivia
Rivia
4 years ago

What too any fail to see, is that Iran will not stop with the destruction of Saudi Arabia. They are the scourge of the Middle East and the world at large. They finance terror world wide. Too many Americans think that the US should stay out of this situation. For some stupid, inexplicable reason they forget that to this day, the US is referred to as “The Big Satan” and Israel as “The Little Satan”. And that both “MUST BE UTTERLY DESTROYED.” So, to stay out of this conflict is to simply put off the inevitable. Over and over and over, the US has proven to be ineffectual and complacent and weak, for all of it’s amazing, impressive, military power. But, afraid to use it. Screw public opinion and the MSMs of the world. Sooner or later the US will have to confront Iran militarily. Sadly it looks as if it will be on Iran’s terms. Bolton was right. I don’t know what is going on in Trump’s head but sadly it seems that he is slowly but surely becoming a “politician”. What a shame. I hope I am wrong about that.

knightsstrength
knightsstrength
4 years ago

The only way to pay them a bribe is with a Nuclear bomb. You do not make deals with the devil. If you do not hit them hard we eill see continual attacks. Paying them a bribe they will use the money against us like usual.

Stephen Honig
Stephen Honig
4 years ago

You can’t attack Iran unless you have definite proof and the walrus was fired before his happened. Remember that the walrus told Bush that Iraq had WMDs and they didn’t. How many of our soldiers died and the balance was up set.

PenobscotHome
PenobscotHome
4 years ago

Let them fight each other, and sell lots of weapons to the Saudis if necessary

Obama IS-A-POS
Obama IS-A-POS
4 years ago

So the Saudi butchers and Israeli military can fight Iran if they wish. If not, shut the ## up because the US will not be your Hessians. Fight your own battles!

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