Ex-Muslim: Not All Muslims Are Bad, But…

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Are all Muslims bad? Of course not, but I have also never seen anyone claiming that every single person who believes in Islam is a horrible human being. This issue is brought up much more by Muslims and Western progressives or apologists than by critics of Islam.

The short answer to this would be: No, of course they are not ALL bad, because there is every type of person in this world, and someone who comes from a horrible background can be better than one with a great background, but as said, I also probably never heard anyone sincerely claiming that every single Muslim is a horrible terrorist. There are significant numbers of Muslims, however, much more so than people of any other belief, who have horrible views about basic human rights that we have in the West today. They have unacceptable views about women, about free speech, about freedom of religion, about homosexuals and so much more. The mainstream media in the West and their supporters are never tired of bring up the 1%, claiming that radicals are only 1% of the world’s Muslim population. The problem is that they refer to armed terrorists who actually participate in terrorist activity as “radicals”. Well, radicals are not only those who actually kill people. What I, together with many others, would define as radical are those who clearly say that people who choose a different belief should be killed, that women have to be obedient creatures, that homosexuals should be persecuted and killed, that any form of criticism of Islam needs to be punished violently. Radicals would be people who want to implement sharia law because the sharia includes these and many more disgusting things.

There are so many Western people who think it is somehow their humane duty to protect Islam and Muslims from any kind of criticism and blame. They are everywhere on social media, they think by knowing one person they have all the wisdom in the world, and they tell you to shut up when you say a word about Islam. I’m talking about those who want to talk against “Islamophobia” because they know a few seemingly friendly Muslims. They think: “Oh, I have this Muslim friend and he has been my friend for the last 5 years. He is so nice, so Muslims are good and Islam is peace.”

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Well, don’t you have Christian friends? Don’t you have white people as friends? As teachers, colleagues or neighbors? They are everywhere around you and most of them are friendlier than people you find anywhere in the Islamic world. I’m saying this because so many of those who jump into the defense when Islam is criticized are also those who want to blame every single thing that happens in their country on white men and Christians or conservatives, because what drives them to defend Islam and Muslims is not social justice, it is their irrational rebellious attitude that they have against their own societies and norms.

You might have Muslim friends that are pretty nice. That’s no surprise, because especially if you are in America or in Canada and you research a bit, you will find out that North American Muslims are the least religious Muslims and consequently the most peaceful ones in the world, because moving to North America, especially to the US, is much harder than moving to Europe, and Muslims who actually choose to move to the US are usually more secular people who really want to move out of the Islamic world. [1] Not all, of course. If you live in Europe, Muslims are usually less peaceful but still better than in Pakistan. The reason is very clear. Muslims in the West are usually people who moved to the West for a better life, which also changed their perspectives, but your Muslim friend who is quite nice with you, doesn’t really mean anything in this discussion. Second generations and younger ones usually don’t learn much about their religion from their parents, and learn basic Western values when they grow up. They are usually only cultural Muslims. Those will also easily deny every negative fact that you mention about Islam, because they don’t know about Islam. They only know that they are supposed to be proud Muslims, that insulting and criticizing Islam is horrible, and they combine or confuse Islamic teachings with basic Western values. As a result they are still usually antisemitic, misogynistic and homophobic, but they also don’t believe that Islam teaches anything that would be too bad from a Western perspective. They don’t even want to look into it, because they are afraid of the truth.

Your Western Muslim friend doesn’t mean anything, and knowing them doesn’t make you an Islamic scholar. Your Muslim friend is an individual that is very far from knowing everything about Islam. Muslims are still disproportionately active in crimes, Muslims are still disproportionately hateful. I just mentioned how Muslims in the West are different from those in the Islamic world, but they are not as different as people think they are. If you grow up in a Muslim family (I did) you still grow up with massive hatred of Jews, of the West, of anyone who criticizes Islam, of “the kuffar” – the disbelievers. As a German-Turkish Ex-Muslim, I can tell you that Turkish Muslims still use the word gavur, which is an extremely derogatory term for non-Muslims, and they use it everywhere among each other. They don’t see that as a problem. They don’t consider it “hate speech”. That’s the norm. Just imagine that such a thing was the norm in America.

As said, Muslims in the West still quite different. The Islamic world is by far the worst when it comes to basic human rights, and it doesn’t seem to get better as quickly as Western civilization does. In the Islamic world there is no free speech. There is almost no Muslim majority country where it is legal to say anything bad about Islam, the country or the government. So, dear Western liberals who can freely say whatever they want about the president, the dominant religion or the country, can you imagine living in fear whenever you criticize any of the things mentioned? Can you imagine being fined, jailed, tortured or killed if you say anything about white people, Christians, the government or the country? Horrible for you, right? Well, that is the truth in the Muslim world, and the majority of Muslims approve of it. That’s why you don’t hear of Ex-Muslims speaking out about Islam while in the Islamic world. They have to move to the West to do that. Free speech doesn’t exist in the Muslim world, it exists in your Western world. That’s why you should appreciate it and protect it.

I made a series of videos where I shared numbers, all based on authentic polls, that show that scary numbers of Muslims think that women should always obey their husbands, homosexuals should be persecuted, blasphemy should be punished, apostates like myself should be killed or persecuted, that wife beating is a right, that religious judges should rule over families, that sharia law should be implemented, and so on. All of those numbers exist and are only seconds away if you have internet access.

For starters: There is a Pew poll that shows us terrifying facts about Muslims. Those numbers raise the number of “radicals” from a pathetic 1% to much higher than 50%. An example is that the majority of Muslims think that a woman should always obey her husband. I don’t see loud feminists speaking up against such a mindset. They speak out about other things, such as “mansplaining” or “manspreading” or the right to have hairy armpits. [2]

The problem is that Western, self-proclaimed humanists think that Islam is treated unfairly because people are ignorant about Islam, but it’s usually the opposite. People embrace Islam as a culture to take care of because they are ignorant. Many Western Islam apologists have no idea about the religion, and think that very easily accessible, horrible Quran verses and hadiths are just Islamophobic propaganda, because they don’t want to spend an hour to inform themselves about the religion. I see so many claiming that Islam is peaceful, but refusing to engage in an intellectual debate with you. They don’t care about facts, they care about their political agenda, and the media doesn’t really help educating people about the matter because the media doesn’t want to educate people. The mainstream media feeds on people, and they want to confirm the feelings and thoughts of those who praise, pay or follow them. They don’t care about the truth. That’s why Western mainstream media doesn’t make per capita calculations when it comes to Islamic terrorism or Muslim criminals, because the results would look pretty bad for Muslims. That would make the Western left feel uncomfortable, which results in the news agency losing support. But they talk immediately about per capita statistics when the subject is police shootings and the demographics of white and black victims, because that suits their agenda.

As an Ex-Muslim who grew up in a religious family and lived for more than a decade in the Islamic world, I can tell you that Muslims grow up with a deep hatred of Jews, Christians, Atheists, homosexuals, transgender people and equality, women’s rights activists, critics of Islam, apostates and so on. And I’m talking about Turkey, which is among the most “moderate” Muslim countries. They are not like you and probably never will be like you unless they leave Islam, which puts a target on their forehead and a killing order that is a fundamental Islamic rule: the killing of apostates. [3]

As said, I’m not saying that every single Muslim out there is a horrible human being and a terrorist. That would be absurd, but I have also probably never seen anyone making such a claim. People talk about how Muslims on average are disproportionately hateful and radical. That’s not racism. When they leave Islam, they usually become quite normal and open-minded people. We’re not talking about a race, something that people have to live with forever, we are talking about a religion, an ideology that gives people horrible ideas and views. Just take a normal Western person for example, who makes wrong decisions and becomes a Nazi. The same person realizes years later that Nazism is horribly wrong, regrets everything, speaks out against Nazism and starts to fight against Nazism. Just a human being with flaws right? Well, would you take millions of such people as neighbors while they are Nazis? No. Would you take them after they abandon Nazism? Probably yes. Now apply the same to Islam.

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Sources:

[1] http://www.pewforum.org/2017/07/26/religious-beliefs-and-practices/

[2] http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-women-in-society/

[3] http://quranx.com/Hadith/Bukhari/USC-MSA/Volume-4/Book-52/Hadith-260/

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Mo
Mo
6 years ago

When addressing the issue of Islam/jihad/sharia, NEVER get into defensive mode. When they toss out the, “You just think all Muslims are bad and/or terrorists!” accusation, the response should be, “Name one person in the counter-jihad movement who claims all (or even most) Muslims are bad and/or terrorists?”

They won’t have an answer.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago
Reply to  Mo

I ALWAYS ask, why aren’t the GOOD Muslims objecting to the BAD Muslims and seriously denouncing them and weeding out the BAD Muslims?

Christians will disagree and renounce other Christians if one would claim that slaughtering non Christians or those of a different denomination is Biblical. Seventh Day Adventists are not murdering Baptists for domination.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Mo

There’s no such thing as a good muslum, just like there was no such thing as a good nazi. What evidence do I have for this position? The fact that ALL f’ing muslum states, every last one of them, is totalitarian and theocratic.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
6 years ago
Reply to  Mo

“Name one person in the counter-jihad movement who claims all (or even most) Muslims are bad and/or terrorists?”

Sadly, I have seen “goon squad” commenters here make such comments (e.g. a comment in response to you). Whereas I would suggest that to the extent they are “good people”, they are simply not good Moslems. But people often live their entire lives with contradictions of various types.

Of course, making claims such as I did above qualifies me for being “an “ idiot” and full of “feces” in the eyes of charter members of the goon squad, like Mahou Shouju.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

O no, you qualified as an idiot years ago, no point in being redundant.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

She isn’t putting up her smiling face, as she always does when she’s Kat Mandu.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

Hmmmm, I wondered about that, then decided it really wasn’t worth the bother.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago

You are SO much fun to laugh AT. Simply hilarious.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

I’d have a lot more respect for your supercilious whining about “good” muslums if you were to do so from within the confines of any one of the 57 muslum sh!ttystans which infest the globe today.

Michael Copeland
Michael Copeland
6 years ago
Reply to  Mo

Another ploy: “Name two of the most famous muslim Abolitionists of slavery.”
(For you at home – there aren’t any).

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

Slavery still exists in the muslum world today.

Thorsten
Thorsten
6 years ago

“Are all Muslims bad? Of course not, but” all Muslims are coward monster worshippers, ‘amputate their hands’ https://quran.com/5/38-40

Thorsten
Thorsten
6 years ago

Monster https://quran.com/5/38-40 worshipper Aiman Mazyek (German counterpart of Nihad Awad from CAIR)

CEO of ZDM (Central Council of Muslims in Germany) zentralrat.de

ZMD organizes the IGD, an organization that has been certified to belong to the Muslim Brotherhood and is monitored by the German constitutional protection agency
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=11&hl=pt-BR&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.journalistenwatch.com/2018/02/27/aiman-mazyek-auf-dem-bundesparteitag-der-cdu/&xid=17259,15700022,15700105,15700122,15700124,15700149,15700168,15700173,15700201&usg=ALkJrhg8iumpFNDlueWEptYJxw1cVabUrw
https://www.instagram.com/p/BftmhyKnaid/

Jim Austin
Jim Austin
6 years ago

Quran’s exhortations to kill infidels exercise a pull on all Moslems. Those moderates who resist their ethical imperative feel themselves morally compromised as opposed to those pure minded souls who go on killing sprees. Moderates are vulnerable to extremist arguments from shared premises. Extremists have no such vulnerability. At any time, some miserable moderate will undergo a crisis of conscience and decide to become consistently righteous and join the carnage.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago
Reply to  Jim Austin

Even within MUSLIMS SECTS, they fight each other. Each SECT wants to dominate the other. Within Christianity and Judaism, we aren’t murdering one another for dominance. We may disagree but you won’t find Baptists murdering Methodists for domination etc. as is the case with Islam beyond murdering the infidel. Muslims NEVER have peace within their religion.

created4elD
created4el
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Christian history includes the Catholic-Protestant war in Ireland for political power. But Christian doctrine does not prescribe this. This was sinful man’s sinful response to a political situation.

On the other hand, Mohammad fortold (as if this was unpredictable) that there will be several factions of Muslims but only one will be right and the others must be squashed. What he was really trying to achieve is people who would fight to maintain a “purity” in the Islam practiced, ie any Muslim who did not accept and follow Mohammad’s teachings could be declared an apostate and killed. And so we have factions of Muslims trying to out Islam each other, calling each other heretics and apostates killing each other, yet all with the same purpose and goal but with different tactics.

SFTOBEY
SFTOBEY
6 years ago
Reply to  Jim Austin

That is called “Sudden Jihad Syndrome“.

Thorsten
Thorsten
6 years ago

“Not All Muslims Are Bad, But” all Muslims are coward women beater worshippers, ‘beat them’ … only for ‘fear’ of disobedience https://quran.com/4/34 https://www.instagram.com/p/Bc8CUAGHYZ2/

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago
Reply to  Thorsten

Looks like a pile of faded black trash bags.
BLACK is universally symbolic of evil while WHITE is universally symbolic of purity and goodness. Females wear black and males wear white.

Cai
Cai
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Just another one of their ‘lies’ then, nothing pure about muzrat males.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  Thorsten

A lovely day to be at the beach. They can feel the sun on their face, the wind rushing through their hair. They must be having a wonderful time .. a glorious day.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

It must be a sweat box inside those black bags of death.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago

Judging by the size of those thing, perhaps each is equipped with central air.

famouswolf
famouswolf
6 years ago

From my perspective, and for all practical purposes (like self defence and long term survivability) YES THEY ARE.

ConservativeMe
ConservativeMe
6 years ago

ISLAM’S QURAN doesn’t say to assimilate, it says to dominate and islam’s quran commands muslims to LIE to infidels to further islam’s domination called TAQIYYA.
Islam’s IDEOLOGY can be BANNED as sharia law poses threat to America’s culture&Constitution via 1952 IMMIGRATION ACT
1) SHARIA LAW
2) HONOR KILLINGS
3)TAQIYYA
4)KILL INFIDELS… etc.,etc.,etc., so If you are muslim you believe in these tenets which does make you BAD because these tenets sound suspiciously like Satan’s tenets….

Kalambong Kalambong
Kalambong Kalambong
6 years ago
Reply to  ConservativeMe

Were the workers of Nazi Death Camps all 100% cruel and heartless?

There had been ‘stories’ of little Jewish toddlers been given tiny pieces of chocolate before they were strapped to a bed and bled to death

Giving chocolate to little toddlers can’t be that bad, right?

Same with the moslems

Those savages might even be ‘kind hearted’ enough to give your little daughter some chocolate before they gang raped, and then slaughtered her

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago

Agree. The Left/liberal Loons even allow their women/Girls to be assaulted, molested, gang raped , murdered http://bit.ly/2tTQW4b

..and its all Halal (approved) as per allah !

So police in Left/liberal pro-islam countries/states do not even register case and mock the victims or let him off lightly if charged.

David Glynn
David Glynn
6 years ago
Reply to  ConservativeMe

There’s only going to be one leader of the US with the courage to draw a line in the sand and Proscribe Islam in the USA and that’s the man in charge right now. If America is ever going to be free of the cancer of islam then Now is the time to do it.
PROSCRIBE ISLAM IN THE UK & USA!

Qur'an 18:86
Qur'an 18:86
6 years ago
Reply to  ConservativeMe

“ISLAM’S QURAN doesn’t say…”
As per my other reply here, in the PC relativist mindset, only muslims have the right to “interpret” their “holy” books. Anyone else presuming to do so is considered guilty of white supremacist hate.

David Glynn
David Glynn
6 years ago
Reply to  Qur'an 18:86

Oh so true!

created4elD
created4el
6 years ago
Reply to  Qur'an 18:86

Isn’t it funny when a Muslim says you can’t understand the Quran unless you speak Arabic? They say you can’t see the beauty of Islam unless you know Arabic which makes quranic Arabic the only language that apparently can’t be translated into any language where a non-Muslim will read it and see anything good in it. Meanwhile those who don’t know Arabic who converted to Islam and were told how beautiful it is, gush over the words which they have no idea about the meaning. And when an Arabic speaker interprets the Quran, if it is in a negative light it is wrong?

Islam’s beauty is like a black widow. If you handie it wrong it will sting you and you will have to deal with a nasty infection. The Left is like the male black widow… they want to embrace Islam as their friend but when they do, they will end up getting devoured and their actions will enable it to spawn.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago

The problem is the Qur’an. That is what they believe. MANY act on it.
For those that don’t, they still believe in it. So, yes, ISLAM is bad and Muslims are bad that follow it. Even if they aren’t living it and beheading people, raping women etc., the other Muslims ARE NOT OBJECTING TO IT! THAT is a problem.

Christianity and Judaism doesn’t have the violent, intolerant and inhuman teachings that Islam has. Jews and Christians aren’t running around beheading people or raping people in the name of Judaism or Christianity because OLD and NEW Testament teachings do not condone that. Islam teaches that! Are there good and bad Jews and Christians? YES! But teachings disagree with what the bad Jews and Christians do and you can point to TEACHINGS that say it is wrong. You can not do that with ISLAM.

Dennis
Dennis
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Well said. Precisely what i would have said. Your comments state what is the major and prominent problem with the belief system that is Islam. As far as I know, no other ideology/belief system, is committed to violence to both preserve and propagate that belief system. Islam, like Nazism, fascism, Communism, etc., all adopted violence as their approach to so-called protecting and furthering of their belief system. As noted, that conduct is incorporated into its writings and books. Along with their inane approach to protecting their belief system, they believe and expect that the whole of this world must accept Islam as a theocratic government and will never abide the constitutional rights of free speech and due process for the people. Therefore, we must always recognize the inherent danger that this belief system represents, and be weary of it. While I agree that not all people born into Islam are dangerous, and that the comments in this article are likely correct to the extent that adopting western culture and living outside the influence of Muslim countries in fact reduces the probability that those people are likely to commit the terrorist acts taught to them by and thru their belief system, I still remain weary of these believers, and I sincerely believe that they need to be “watched” and have removed by our judicial process those among them that would promote and preach violence as being justified by their belief system, by incarceration or deportation.

created4elD
created4el
6 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

Hinduism has the caste system which systemically maintains an oppressed people group which the founder of Buddhism, Siddhartha Guatama, rejected as his motivation to formulate Buddhism.

But Hindu’s caste system seems mild compared to Islam and there is no doctrine in Hinduism that calls for the subjugation of non-Hindus or enslaving people outside of the lower caste into the lower caste.

So Islam is uniquely the only major “religion” that has a political seditious element and should therefore outlawed as other seditious movements have been.

SFTOBEY
SFTOBEY
6 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

I truly am “weary” of it. However, we must ALL be wary of it.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago

More specifically, what’s WRONG with Islam?
What makes ISLAM different than Judaism and Christianity?
What’s ‘sick’ about Islam?
What’s ‘dark’ about Islam?
What’s ‘malevolent’ about Islam?
What’s ‘perverted’ about Islam.

1 No Golden Rule
2 No free speech
3 No democracy
4 Jihad – holy war of world conquest
5 Honour killings
6 Taqiyya – sacred lying
7 Taqlid – group think
8 Misogyny – repression of women
9 Rape of kafirs as jihad prizes
10 Genocide
11 Ethnic cleansing
12 Anti-Semitism
13 Al-Walaa wal-Baraa – Islamic apartheid
14 Torture
15 Plundering
16 Cruel and unusual punishments
17 Backwardness – stagnation
18 Violence against women
19 Slavery
20 Discriminatory Sharia law
21 Hatred of the arts
22 Pedophilia disguised as child marriage
23 Fifty generations of cousin marriage and genetic defects
24 Cruelty to animals
25 Extortion tax to humiliate disbelievers
26 No historic basis
27 Anti-intellectual obscurantism
28 FGM
29 Arab racism
30 Theocratic totalitarianism
31 Vigilantism
32 Supremacism

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

If my notes are accurate, Noni Darwish wrote this comparison between a real religion and the cult of islam.

• We are all sinners vs. They are all sinners.
• Life is sacred vs. Death is worship.
• Jesus died for us vs. We must die for Allah.
• Jesus came to save us vs. We must save Muhammad’s reputation.
• Judge the sin, not the sinner vs. Judge the sinner not the sin.
• God the redeemer vs. Allah the Humiliator.
• Confession of Sin vs. Concealment of Sin.
• At war with the Devil vs. At war with flesh and blood, the enemies of Allah.
• Truth will set you Free vs. Lying and slander are an obligation.
• Changing oneself vs Changing others.
• Self-Control vs. Controlling others.
• Vengeance is the Lord’s vs. Vengeance is prescribed to Muslims.
• Love your enemies vs. Hate Allah’s Enemies (non-Muslims).
• Work Ethics vs. Wealth through conquest.
• Kingdom of God is not of this world vs. Allah and the Islamic State are one.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Very good!
I would add that paradise to Islam is abusing women in orgies for eternity whereas with Christians and Jews that will not happen.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Heaven, to decent people is a place that is heavenly, pleasant to a degree unimaginable. To muslims, it is a continuation of the disgusting life style the qur’an tells them live their lives in, hedonistic pleasures of eating drinking and debauchery, no thought for anyone but themselves.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

You said it better than I.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

We all contribute. Pot luck forum so to speak.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Just don’t tell law enforcement. There are still laws against pot.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Steiner

Now I know I am getting old, I was thinking about casseroles rather than hallucinogenics.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Is that just another way of saying the older you get, the more you go to pot?

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Steiner

When that is the primary activity of your peer group, sure.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Your peer group must be like mine; in mine he word “pot” was usually preceded by the word “coffee”.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Steiner

That is exactly how it is.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Almost forgot – but shouldn’t such an event be advertised as a “pity pot-ty”?

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Steiner

That would set the tone of the evening.

Ron Cole
Ron Cole
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Steiner

I resemble that insult.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
6 years ago
Reply to  Ron Cole

“Pot” on, Ron!

created4elD
created4el
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

The ironic thing Muslims can’t seem to see is that when things are haram, forbidden, on earth like wearing silk, drinking alcohol, sex with women who are not your wives or your sex slave become halal, good, in paradise, ie sin becoming acceptable, is a downgrade in morality and can only mean Islam’s paradise is another word for hell which is another word for the eternal separation from the ultimate Good which is God. And certainly we see there is no presence of God in Islam’s paradise, only the promise of a perpetual orgy.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  created4el

True, an eternity of mindless hedonistic excess will wear thin.

poetcomic1
poetcomic1
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

72 perpetually-renewing virgins? Hell, I dated one perpetually renewing virgin in high school and she was a real pain in the posterior.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  poetcomic1

Somehow I think all 72, would get bored with the same dirty short muslim who after getting drunk and stuffing himself figures he is some kind of stud monkey.

poetcomic1
poetcomic1
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

And if you are a ‘good Muslima’ and blow yourself up…. you get to be your husband’s footstool in the next world.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

If there are 72 women to every man in islamic heaven, you have to wonder who runs islamic heaven.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

As muslims believe that islam and temporal events are all under the control of ali’s ass, muslim heaven will be and extension of the paradise islam makes everywhere it dominates.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  created4el

I’ve read there are rivers of wine in Jannah. Whether they’re white, red or sparkling is anyone’s guess.

created4elD
created4el
6 years ago

yep… drinking wine here is haram but in Jannah, drinking rivers of it become halal… gluttony in alcohol and sex… sounds like heaven for the self absorbed sinner. That is the amazing genius of Mohammad… attract male recruits, appeal to their baser instincts, their desire to drink and have sex, tell them they can’t drink on earth so that they won’t be too drunk to fight but that they’ll be rewarded with all they want to drink once they’re in paradise… and the same with sex… gotta give the impression that you are pious so you put limits on having sex but then throw out a few rewards with sex slaves and multiple wives but present an even better situation up in paradise… why unless you wife has pleased you on earth, she won’t be there to nag you in paradise… who wouldn’t want that reward in the hereafter, after all, it’s better than the here now… at least for the unrepentant degenerates. (we’ll just ignore what paradise looks like for the wife… I have no idea how that eternal future could resemble anything that is appealing to a woman but I suppose that is why Mohammad said there would be few women there.)

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  created4el

It’s hilarious how most women are supposed to be in islamic hell but there are 72 virgins (at least!) to every man in islamic heaven!

created4elD
created4el
6 years ago

right… but the 72 houris are apparently not earthly women but more like Stepford wives that the Allah of Islam provides for his faithful. So these houris aren’t the women that Mohammad talked about being in hell. Apparently the earthly women are ungrateful to their companions (husbands) and ungrateful for good treatment, like being beat for being suspected of doing something wrong, and that is why 99% of them end up in hell. And perhaps compared to the houris, their earthly wives’ breast aren’t big enough compared to the houris’ breasts whose breasts are notably big so that after seeing these houris, their husbands won’t really want them in paradise to begin with, i.e. they are displeasing to their husbands, since apparently big breasts is a quality that is valued in paradise. Maybe for the Muslim man who wasn’t so good, his houris will have smaller breasts and he would be really depressed especially after seeing his fellow jihadi’s houris who have bigger breasts.

SFTOBEY
SFTOBEY
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Which is — or should be — an automatic tip-off to anyone who understands how Satan works.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

She left out allah “the greatest of deceivers” vs. “thou shalt not lie or bear false witness.”

Dagonet
Dagonet
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

But pisslam is the religion of peace!

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Dagonet

Actually, I think it is the cult of putrid.

Ron Cole
Ron Cole
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Speaking of mindless hedonistic excesses when is our next Tea? comment image

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Ron Cole

Soon please, got another marriage proposal the other day, definitely need a stiff orange pekoe to settle my nerves.

Ron Cole
Ron Cole
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

How could you desert your fans?
The hatter will not allow that!

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Ron Cole

To the tune of “Jet”
Scat, I can almost remember my funny faces
When asked to be marrying soon
And scat, thought only of a baboon
scat, do you have any grey matter
You know I am old as a yeti
Scat, I thought the thought was something to forget
What’s the matter, want to be ignored
Now and even much later…
scat, with though of sharing spaces
Get back to somewhere, byby
Scat, previous marriage trying to forget
Retch, gag.

VoiceInDesert
VoiceInDesert
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Excellent contrast by Noni Darwish.

jimmy
jimmy
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

That’s why Islam is the religion of the Antichrist.

Dagonet
Dagonet
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

OK, felix1999, so it’s not perfect. But if you put your “dirty thirty(-two)” aside, you can see the good in pisslam.

Jack
Jack
6 years ago
Reply to  Dagonet

Putting the facts aside, lends credence to abject stupidity.

created4elD
created4el
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

It seems to me:
33 polygamy
34 spousal abuse
35 “paradise” which makes Hugh Hefner’s playboy mansion seem tame. It’s a place where a Muslim man will have 72 somehow perpetual virgins with big breasts to have sex with as well as young boys. And if your wife gets to join you there, she will be able to watch this orgy and if she is appealing to you, you may choose to allow her to participate otherwise her only choice is to stay to the side and watch.
36 idolization of how many women a man, Mohammad, can have sexual intercourse with in a night
37 the degree of focus on the treatment of non-Muslims
38 Allah of Islam gives revelation specifically for Mohammad’s convenience

* note on 9) rape of kafir is establishing captured women for use as a sex slave
** note on 22) child marriages: following the example of Mohammad that says marrying a child of 6 years old and fondelling her, thighing her, until she is 9 when you can begin sexual intercourse with her as Mohamnad did with Aisha
*** note on 30) theocratic authoritarianism : also known as sharia which comes from the prescription in the Islamic texts calling for the subjugation of the non-Islamic world, dar al harb, by giving non-muslins the false choice of whether or not to accept Islam which was, depending on the non-Muslim’s religious background and the whim of the Muslim offering it: a) leave the area; b) convert; c) die; d) pay “protection” money so that you would be protected from options a, b or c but you have to do it while accepting being humiliated or abused while paying it. In some cases, there will be no option offered, the non-Muslim kaffir will simply be killed. Also the theocratic totalitarianism means non-Muslims are bound to Islamic law meaning Islam is not just merely a religion but a political ideology, a political ideology that calls for establishing the theocratic totalitarian government By Any Means Necessary.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  created4el

Strictly speaking dhimmitude is only to be extended to Christians and Jews (aka. people of the book), everyone else has the binary choice: convert to islum or die. An Iranian ayatrollah made this pronouncement, and it may even have been Ayatrollah Sistani.

billdeserthills
billdeserthills
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

I think you left out sick stupid people with no respect for others due to their intolerance

Nabi Rasch
Nabi Rasch
6 years ago

Maybe not ‘bad’ (at least yet) but what’s good about them? So many weird, combative fetishes there that any accommodation opens the door to cultural insanity and suicide.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago
Reply to  Nabi Rasch

Perhaps you need to understand from a former Muslim what is bad about ALL of Islam.

Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:

“One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives (Qur’an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way…

The statement continues,

Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.”

Bryan Roth
Bryan Roth
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Excellent post; correct on all accounts!

David Glynn
David Glynn
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Spot on felix. Agree with your post 100%

Nabi Rasch
Nabi Rasch
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Thanks but I think in an ideological sense the ‘bad’ is pretty obvious–don’t need to suffer through Islam to see that. In the specified context of the article we interpret ‘bad’ as meaning not ready to jump up and kill you on the instant.

Nabi Rasch
Nabi Rasch
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Nice precis.I believe most of us posting know all this. Like I said to some Dutch friends 20 years ago: Muslims are a pile of trouble.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago

Even if you want to believe a LIE, explain this:

It is forbidden by the Qur’an for Muslims to be friends with unbelievers.
They call unbelievers “Kafirs”.

Qur’an 4:144 Believers! Do not take Kafirs (unbelievers) as friends over fellow believers. Would you give Allah a clear reason to punish you?

Qur’an 3:28 Believers should not take Kafirs (unbelievers) as friends in preference to other believers. Those who do this will have none of Allah’s protection and will only have themselves as guards. Allah warns you to fear Him for all will return to Him.

Qur’an 5.51 O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as friends, they are but friends of each other. And whoever befriends them, then surely, he is one of them.

Can you show me that instruction in the Bible?

Halal Bacon
Halal Bacon
6 years ago

muslims kill muslims in the name of Satan, AKA Allah and his deviant mesiah moHAMhead

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago
Reply to  Halal Bacon

Islam is SATAN’s organized religion.
Satan LOVES death and so does Islam.

Halal Bacon
Halal Bacon
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

well I like to ask, how many miracles did moHAMhead perform, and how many people did Jesus kill?

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago

I am always amused and happy for her!
There is a tug of war with some Muslims in the west.

First Muslim Miss USA Rima Fakih converts to Christianity
Published May 06, 2016

Rima Fakih is believed to be the first Muslim to win the title of Miss USA when she was crowned the winner in 2010.

Now, the beauty pageant winner has converted to Christianity, recently sharing a verse from Philippians on Twitter.

Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through him who strengthens me

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/05/06/first-muslim-miss-usa-rima-fakih-converts-to-christianity.html

Benschachar
Benschachar
6 years ago

“Not all bad.”
But you see the problem is that Islam promotes violence. Even Muhammed himself was unsure of entry into heaven and he was perfect.Paradise, however, is completely assured to jihadists regardless of their prior history.

Bryan Roth
Bryan Roth
6 years ago

I love Pamela Geller and am proud of the brave, important work she is doing. But. I have to disagree with Ridvan Aydemir. The assertion that “not all Muslims” are bad is an absurdity, and equally fallacious as it would have been in 1930 for someone to assert that “not all Nazis are bad.” Although really, it’s more directly parallel to someone saying in 1941 that “not all Nazis are bad,” because Islam is already at war with the world. It always has been. For anyone who says there is such a thing as a Muslim who is a good person, I have to ask: If they truly are a “good” person, why are the still a Muslim? It’s a religion whose founder was an illiterate, psychotic mass murderer, a thief, a terrorist, a pathological liar, con artist, rapist, and slave trader. What kind of “spiritual leader” is that? The Koran explicitly states that it is EVERY Muslim’s DUTY to “fight” until everyone in the WORLD either submits to Islam, or is killed. What kind of “religion” is that? if you are truly a good person, you would want nothing to do with such an evil, murderous ideology masquerading itself as a religion–and the fact that you were raised in that religion is no excuse for supporting it by virtue of being a member of it, just as the idea that someone was a “good Nazi” did not excuse anyone from being complicit in the atrocities committed by THAT murderous ideology. Islam delenda est!

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
6 years ago
Reply to  Bryan Roth

I do think the same like you. However I know a few muslims and I can assure you with 100% security that they aren´t bad people. But why? Simply because they are muslims basically only on paper and know nothing about Islam (they don´t pray, they eat pork and drink alcohol and don´t care who sleeps with whom). Simply because they don´t care to dig further into the “religion” they happened to be born in. The less religious a muslim is and the less he/she knows or cares about Islam, the peacefuller and better he/she is as a person/character (I made that observance a long time ago). Unfortunately, these kind of “muslims” have always been ultra rare and are quickly becoming rarer and rarer as the whole muslim world is radicalizing itself even more than it has been already before. So of course we can generally say that muslims are bad, because most muslims know about Islam and are aware of its values. And since Islam itself is bad to the bone, its followers (especially those who are aware and very obedient) are too.

Bryan Roth
Bryan Roth
6 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

But that again begs the question: If you ARE a good person, and you KNOW Islam is evil, why be a Muslim at all? Why not just be “spiritiual” or agnostic? Why not convert to Christianity (which Mohammed stole much of Islam’s textual and historical basis from)? And I agree, the less a Muslim adheres to the tenets of Islam, the more peaceful they are–so why not make the break complete? It’s like if a German was a Nazi, but was “only a Nazi on paper”–but they’re still wearing the uniform, and still paying their Nazi Party dues. Why would you belong to a religion (or any organization) you know nothing about? I’ve never gotten that. (Of course, I’m an atheist, and politically an independent, so I’m not much of a “joiner,” anyway!)

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
6 years ago
Reply to  Bryan Roth

Yes, that´s a question I´m asking myself too. At least for those “muslims” living in countries where muslims are a minority it should be able to leave Islam or convert to Christianity without endangering your life. In muslim majority countries this is of course very dangerous, so these “muslims” remain “muslim” simply for the sake of their lives. That however only applies to “muslims” who don´t know how bad Islam is. As soon as they know, they´re not good anymore and there is no reason to trust them. Those few muslims that I know who are really good people simply remain muslim on paper because they don´t care at all. I don´t have any problem with that as long as they keep on being the way they are (a couple I know even regularily sells candles on a Christmas bazar in december (in majority muslim countries they would be surely punished for that!)).

Bryan Roth
Bryan Roth
6 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

I agree, Z., it is dangerous and potentially fatal for Muslims to openly leave Islam in majority-Muslim countries (especially countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, where it is actually illegal to leave Islam and carries the death penalty).

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Bryan Roth

Gee, there are 57 muslum states, why haven’t the “good” f’ing muslums managed to take power in ANY of them?

Bryan Roth
Bryan Roth
6 years ago

Now THERE’S an excellent question!

Michael Copeland
Michael Copeland
6 years ago
Reply to  Bryan Roth

Why not leave Islam? There is a reason.
One who leaves Islam is to be killed. Anyone may perform the killing vigilante-style. There is no penalty “since it is killing someone who deserves to die”.
Manual of Islamic Law, “Reliance of the Traveller”, o8.4.
The Manual is available as a free download at mihraab.com:
http://www.mihraab.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/…/Reliance-of-the-Traveler-Translation.pdf

James JonesD
James Jones
6 years ago
Reply to  Bryan Roth

EXACTLY, well stated. Let’s see, Muhutmud killed, raped, enslaved, robbed how many ? Christ killed, raped, etc. how many ? Which is a religion founded on peace by a peace filled, loving founder and has scriptures that support that to this day. Islam is no different today from when it was birthed from Hell 1400 yrs. ago and is no more a religion of peace now then when it began. I have always been suspicious of muslims claiming to be against what most of them do or say ( and very few say or do anything about the ” extremism ” ) because of islam and the koran . How could you call yourself an adherent of such vile ideas and notions and still think there is anything ” good ” about that. When the bus bombings in the UK years ago happened, I noted even then how the students who knew the bombers, went to school with them and hung out with them, were in shock that it was their ” friends “. They described all the fun times they had together, the laughter, the smiles – the utter disbelief that they could have done such a thing. I don’t mean to imply that all muslims are secretly like this nor do I put this here as an example of what you are talking about. You are questioning this on a purely philosophical level and I agree completely with that and think that this is the only basis on which to discuss this issue – the rest is at best a distraction but more often than not it is an area for the seeding of lies and confusion. It must be remembered that just like Nazi ideology, islams’ goal is world domination by what ever means necessary, always has been, always will. Turkey’s leader Erogen said ” a muslim is a muslim, there are no moderate muslims “. If as a Muslim, you claim to be a follower of the koran and its founder and know what your scriptures say about nonmuslims and what Muhutmud did to people, then you cannot say you’re a good person – period. No good tree produces bad fruit and no bad tree produces good fruit. Mans application of Christianity has seen many flaws over time but that’s because of man not the scriptures, this cannot be said of islam and to be a part of it, is to be a part of all of it.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Bryan Roth

Hear, hear, nicely stated sir!

Bryan Roth
Bryan Roth
6 years ago

Thankyou, thankyou very MUUUUUCH…

Every thinking, informed person needs to become a soldier in the information war against Islam, and push back against every uninformed person when they parrot some nonsense about Islam they heard on the liberal Western media or from some Trojan Horse Islamic organization (like CAIR, here in the USA) that spreads lies about Islam being a “religion of peace” or that we need to be “tolerant” of other religions or cultures. Islam is not a religion–it’s a cult of world conquest disguised in the trappings of religion. It’s a false religion completely “made up” by an illiterate 7th century psychopath.

disqus_LpAyaRJOIA
disqus_LpAyaRJOIA
5 years ago
Reply to  Bryan Roth

disqus_xIyH5cXcau I agree

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
6 years ago

Very well written and honest text by Mr Aydemir. I agree with everything except for the part that Islam is a religion. Other than that, he pretty well sums up everything what I already observed during my travels and conversations with muslims. It´s actually very easy to quickly expose their radical and intolerant mindset that they all have, no matter how peaceful they might live.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
6 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

There are two types of muslims, jihadists and dormant jihadists. Nothing in between. In fact, the dormant jihadist does not actively fight or directly engage themselves in terrorism but they do support the goals of jihad and the terrorists. They may claim (LOL) to hate the acts of islamic terrorists, but they agree with the ultimate goal of the islamification of the world. Just because muslims claim (LOL) to be peaceful, that does not mean they do not believe in the precepts of their quran, they do! So this “being a muslim on paper” (as you so stated in one of your comments) is quite laughable.

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
6 years ago
Reply to  bannedquran20

It´s not because these type of muslims I know have never read that book and never lived a muslim lifestyle and know nothing about it and also don´t care, which indeed makes them being paper-only-muslims. That´s sth different of course than those who claim to be peaceful but KNOW about the evil teachings in Islam.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
5 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

Wrong! On one side of the fence, you have muslims who do not actively fight or directly engage themselves in terrorism, but they do support the goals of jihad and the terrorists. They may claim to hate the acts of islamic terrorists but they agree with the ultimate goal which is the islamification of the world. Just because mulsims claim to be peaceful, does that mean they do not believe in the precepts of their quran..They do! With that said, the next thing you are going to tell me is that mecca and medina was around when Abraham walked the earth! Loi!

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
5 years ago
Reply to  bannedquran20

Not wrong. I know these people. You don´t. And I know them very well and tested them very well. There are always exeptions. Everywhere and anywhere. Sure the “big calm” majority who is peaceful secretly is pro sharia. No doubt about that. But not every single body. Many also have never ever read the quran in their life. You can compare them to most of the Christians living in todays modern western societies: They are christian only on paper, but otherwise it doesn´t play any role anymore in their lives. Of course, the percentage of such cases is much lower among muzies than among Christians because most muzies don´t get the chance to live a life free from religious/ideological influence in their daily lives like Christians do. Why should I tell you that Medina and Mecca were there before Abraham? We both know it´s nonesense and you should be smart enough to realize that I´m not defending muzies/Islam at all here.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
5 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

During the time of Abraham and not before. With that said, by your post, you are defending muslims. There are ONLY two types of muslims..dormant jihadist and jihadists. There is nothing in between. The muslims you are referring to, you would describe them as moderate. Every moderate muslim is a potential terrorist. The belief in islam is like a tank of gasoline. It looks innocuous, until it meets the fire. For a moderate muslim to become a murderous jihadist, all it takes is a spark of faith. It’s time to put an end to the charade of moderate islam. There is no such a thing as moderate muslim. muslims are either jihadists or dormant jihadists, moderate they are not. Furthermore, I really don’t know yet to this point, if you are a muslim, an islamic sympathizer (close to one at this point since you are defending muslims) , or an unsuspecting non-muslim. But the day is still young…..

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
5 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

It seems to me by your post that you are defending muslims. I do not know to this point if you are a muslim, islamic sympathizer (it point to that) , or just an everyday unsuspecting non-muslim but the day is still young. What you are trying to say, the ones you are defending are moderate muslims. Every moderate muslim is a potential terrorist. The belief in islam is like a tank of gasoline. It looks innocuous, until it meets the fire. For a moderate muslim to become a murderous jihadist, all it takes is a spark of faith. It is time to put an end to the charade of moderate islam. There is no such a thing as moderate muslim. muslims are either jihadists or dormant jihadists, moderate , they are not.

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
5 years ago
Reply to  bannedquran20

You still didn´t get it. I´m not trying to defend anybody. Just trying to explain to you that I know some people thoroughly while you don´t know them at all. I never said anything about moderate muslims. By the way that term makes no sense anyway because there is no such thing like “moderate muslims” because as a muslim you cannot be moderate as Islam´s very core is violent and radical. I totally agree with you and I said it myself many times in the past: As as muslim, you automatically have a higher potential to become violent/radical than people of any other group of course. But it´s not because of the people themselves, it´s because of Islam. It depends on them how much they let Islam enter their way of thinking, and of course it depends too of their socialization in the childhood, since these are the important factors which decided whether they will be moderate in a non-muslim way or simply “muslim” to a certain degree if you know what I mean. So there are indeed some of them, that are basically only muslim on paper but would never be accepted as muslims by other muslims due to their lifestyle and way of thinking.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
5 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

On paper or not. They are still muslims and die as a muslim, regardless of the level of what they have been taught and what they agree or not agree. ALL muslims know what islam is all about and the abrogation of verses that go with it. I have been researching islam for many moons now and I have NEVER, never met a muslim who doesn’t know what’s going on with islam, quran and hadith. You have a point though as to the degree of what they decide to take in. The problem occurs when they decide to walk away from islam and many do not make it, for they are marked for death by their own family members and some will not turn their backs on islam for that reason. I apologize for being hard on you but islam must be exposed for what it is. islam as described in their disturbing and fallible quran and hadith does not deserve respect any more than nazis deserved respect. It is vile supremacist ideology similar of nazi ideology, including delusional Jew hatred. islam has no place in any decent society. Take care neighbor.

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
5 years ago
Reply to  bannedquran20

Of course they´re still muslim when they die. That´s not the problem. No, many muslims have no clue about Islam. I personally know some of them that never read that muslim book of evil and who never attended any kind of “religious” classes. Not in school, not in mosques and not anywhere else. At least in Bosnia you´ll find tons of muzzies who really don´t have a clue about Islam. Many of them also because their family history is characterized by illterateness. It´s all about the degree of how much you decide to take it in, and especially how seriously you as a muslim take it. Take my bosnian friend Hajra for example. She´s a 45 year old bosnian muslim woman. Never went to a mosque, never read the quran. She once said that her religion is private thing for her. Something only between her and God. Only a muslim who reduced Islam to simply a belief in God and prayer but nothing else beyond that, is a good muslim in my eyes, as he/she managed to repel him-/herself from that abundant islamic nonsense by not allowing it rule their daily lives. Nobody in her family ever wore a scarf, hidjab or whatever you wanna call it. All her life she had been drinking alcohol and eating pork, and her daughter is in a relationship with a christian man, whom she (Hajra) adores. 2 years ago she even went on a holiday trip with my parents to south Croatia. Wore the bikini on the beach and simply had fun like all the christians she was around with. Her humor is legendary anyway. I could never hate her just because she´s muslim. Yes, I don´t like that she “officially” is one, but that´s about it. I totally agree with you that exposure of Islam is necessary, since it´s such a backward and evil ideology. And yes, Hitlers admiration for muzzies is a well known fact.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
5 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

There is no such a thing as a good muslim. Furthermore a muslim who “reduced islam to simply a belief in God and prayer but nothing else beyond that” is hog wash! You said, “That her religion is a private thing.” is garbage to say the least and I will explain what is a simple belief in God mean to ALL muslims. islam=submission, muslim=one who submits to allah. That is found in quran 33:36, 4:65, 33:21. Now, the basic requirements to the muslims you are describing is condensed into two list, core practices=five pillars and core beliefs=six articles. The five pillars is reciting the creed, ritual prayers, mandatory alms,fasting and pilgrimage to mecca and the articles beliefs in allah, angels, books, mohammed, judgment and predestination. Part of this is found in quran 9:29 which is known as the verse of the sword that commands ALL muslims to fight those that do not believe in allah. In sahih al-bukhari 6924; sahih muslim 129, tells ALL muslims that mohammed was commanded to fight all, including muslims, until they recite the creed, preform their daily prayers and give the required alms. Those that refuse to submit, they are fought until they submit, hence jihad. These muslims you are refering to know what islam is or they will not be calling themselves muslims. If they would not want to be associated with islam, then they can turn and go the other way but death awaits them if they do. With that said, you are defending muslims according to your post and it shows that you are very gullible (unsuspecting non-muslim) person into thinking that they are good muslims. There is no such a thing of a good muslim according to the simple basics of islam as I just outlined.

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
5 years ago
Reply to  bannedquran20

Your comment just showes me that you either didn´t understand what I wrote or you have problems with reading, because these reasons wouldn´t be the case, you wouldn´t have written what you wrote. A good muslim is a muslim who has no clue about Islam and just happens to be born like that but otherwise has no interest in it. Hajra for example has no clue about that stuff you just recited from the quran, and it doesn´t interest her. It´s funny how you´re acting up here believing to know what “believing in God” means to every single person (especially people you don´t know at all). “These muslims you are refering to know what islam is or they will not be calling themselves muslims.” —> That´s a very naive and generalizing thought of yours. I know plenty of muzzies who don´t know what Islam is, as well as I know plenty of Christians who don´t know what Christanity is. My example with Hajra and you writing this after reading about it just proves that you can´t accept facts that don´t coincide with your conviction and that you´re misunderstanding my words as a defense of muzzies.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
5 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

You are the one who is not paying attention since I gave you the meaning of muslim..which is someone who submits to allah and that is explained in their quran 33:36 and the basic requirement for demonstrating the submission are condensed into two list, core practices=Six articles of faith Five pillars, Core beliefs=creed, prayers, alms, fasting and pilgrimage and I explained both list extensively in my previous post. This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is no such a thing as a good muslim, even in name only. If I read you right, you stated in previous post that a woman who you claim to be a muslim, was running around in a bikini. This woman is not a muslim, even in name only. I also know that you do not know anything about islam, muslims, quran or their hadith. Until then, at this point, you are an unsuspecting and gullible non-muslim

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
5 years ago
Reply to  bannedquran20

You don´t need to explain this to me because I know all this since a long time. But you have to understand that there are indeed some muslims existing who don´t practice the 5 pillars and who also in some cases don´t even know about them. But they´re still muslims (on paper most basically), although the vast majority of muslims would not call them muslims because they´re too “modern” compared to the retarded rest. It´s ridiculous of you to claim to know what this (completely unknown to you) woman is or isn´t by only judging from the perspective that evolved from what you read. And if you would have taken a closer look at previos comments of mine, you would never say that I don´t kow anything about islam/muslims and so on. And this just shows how ignorant you are.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
5 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

The ignorance is found in you since there is no such a thing as a good muslim and I have pointed to many reasons in my previous comments to you as to why there is no such a creature. These same muslims (dormant jihadists) as well as islamic sympathizers will say…”isis and others like them , doesn’t have anything to do with islam.” If you yourself states the same then, you are beyond the of word “gullible.” Try and have a nice day.

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
5 years ago
Reply to  bannedquran20

The ignorance is found in you because you don´t know this person at all but try to present yourself as knowing her better than me and in addition to that you´re trying to defame me as stupid or as muzzie-symphatizer just because I explained to you something that you either can´t understand or are not willing to understand.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
5 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

Go back to my post… “In conclusion.”

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
5 years ago
Reply to  bannedquran20

You can repeat that as much as you want. It still won´t change the facts that I know and you don´t.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
5 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

Try again…

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
5 years ago
Reply to  bannedquran20

No need to. 😉

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
5 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

It apparent that you do not understand the meaning of my “In conclusion” that I posted. Loi!! You come back to me because you are bothered like a little crying child who lost his marbles. Try and have a nice day Baba and have a cold one on me or go for a six pack.

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
5 years ago
Reply to  bannedquran20

And now when you ran out of arguments you´re trying to attack me on a personal level. This is really getting ridiculous.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
5 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

I don’t know if you got my last post but I will post it again. You continue to come back to me seeing that you still don’t understand the meaning of the phrase..”In conclusion” If someone tells me the same phrase on these sites, I will just end the communication and go on to something else. In fact these are just SITES!!! What I advice you, just pack a few MRE’s and head on to the woods and enjoy the scenery.

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
5 years ago
Reply to  bannedquran20

You see? You´re not only unable to understand what I explained to you but you´re even unable to view your own standpoint and stay true to your words. Otherwise you wouldn´t show any reaction after writing “in conclusion”, which exposes your own contradictory attitude. Instead of writing down something constructive you´re revealing very immature behaviour here with your disputatiousness which leads to nowhere except you disgracing yourself on the internet.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
5 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

try again…..

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
5 years ago
Reply to  bannedquran20

I´m not trying anything. Just facing you with the facts.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
5 years ago
Reply to  Zavrzlama

In conclusion (I would imagine you know the meaning) , I am certain the islamist apologist and you will employ convoluted logic and strange reasoning as to the muslims you are describing The fact is, no matter what you say and they say, the truth remains the intelligent readers will have no difficulty in separating the corn from the chaff. You are now dismissed.

Zavrzlama
Zavrzlama
5 years ago
Reply to  bannedquran20

I´m not dismissed from anything. And common sense will show to anyone who´s possessing it, that your self-aggrandizing comments won´t help you at all with facing the fact that I know sth that you don´t know and that you´re obviously unable to understand due to your own ignorance you´re unable to escape from.

bargogx1
bargogx1
6 years ago

This guy will be attacked by the Left, you can count on it.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

Not all muslums are bad eh? Then why do they choose subscribe to a violent, vile, totalitarian, fascist, Jew hating death cult? FO. Long live Burma.

Duck
Duck
6 years ago

Not all muslims are a threat….some of them are dead.

End PCD
End PC
6 years ago

IMO Muslims who know what Islam and its Qur’an teaches and don’t dump it (at least secretly) cannot be good people. How can they be?

PatriotlizD
Patriotliz
6 years ago
Reply to  End PC

Which begs the question why there are “reformists” like Dr. Zuhdi Jasser…trying to make a silk purse out of sow’s ear. He can try to put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.

AR154U☑ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ DEPLORABLE 2020
AR154U☑ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ DEPLORABLE 2020
6 years ago

Not All Muslims Are Bad, But………..

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PatriotlizD
Patriotliz
6 years ago

I don’t get this meme—it’s confusing. I think that Palestinian flag inserted before “supporters” makes it appear “and his ‘Palestinian’ supporters”…which of course would be absurd. I often insert a national flag in front of words in a tweet to indicate an adjective to the next word or in place of typing that nation’s name. I’m too much into twitter shorthand so this meme had me scratching my head…trying to figure out what it meant.

AR154U☑ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ DEPLORABLE 2020
AR154U☑ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ DEPLORABLE 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  Patriotliz

Linda Sarsour ‘Soo-sour’ is a Palestinian activist working within DNC masquerading as a Women’s Rights feminist !!
The flag’s placement had to be as such, so as not to cover the DNC logo and her honorary title.

PatriotlizD
Patriotliz
6 years ago

I know all about the cockroach(translation of Sarsour)…surprised she hasn’t banned me from her twitter site but she did get Twitter to ban me for 24 hrs for referring to her as a “big fat hypocrite”—I think it was some rule about “harassment”…i.e, calling her “fat”…maybe???
Really…the graphics led me initially to read that as “and his Palestinian supporters.”
My titles for her are #JihadiLinda #StealthJihadist and #FakeFeminist leader of the #PhonyWomensMarch. I’m always on the prowl to copy memes of Sarsour.comment image comment image

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6 years ago
Reply to  Patriotliz

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Voytek Gagalka
Voytek Gagalka
6 years ago

Well, they are bad enough to allow themselves to be submitted, vast majority of them without a slightest trace of resistance or protest. That’s bad enough for me.

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago

It does not matter as once the war that has been raging for some 1350+ years makes the west finally wake up there will be NO fine distinctions made between “decent” muslims(who still shelter, subsidize and support the others) and those actively trying to kill us all. This was what happens when you wage world war (as they are and have been doing for a very long time) and exactly what happened to the very many DECENT Germans in WW2. You ride the storm, actively or passively, and you reap the whirlwind deservedly so. IMO the world would be a far better place with NO muslims and NO islam, and yes! It would still not be perfect but it would be safer.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago

There is also a BIG difference on how they get to paradise beside taking the Jihad route. Muslims have a very insecure eternal fate. What I mean is it is WORKS DRIVEN. Picture a scale with one side having good works and the other bad works. You have to hope that when you draw your last breath, the GOOD outweighs the BAD.

For Christianity it is NOT works driven. You can exhaust yourself with good works but with out BELIEF/FAITH it is pointless. You are SAVED FOR good works. When you love someone, you want to please them.

John 3:16-18

[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

[17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
but that the world through him might be saved.

[18] He that believeth on him is NOT condemned: but he that believeth NOT is condemned already, because he hath NOT believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

He looks at your MOTIVATION for good works too. It should be Holy Spirit driven since the Holy Spirit indwells within believers. We are under grace.

Ephesians 2:8-9

[8] For by GRACE are ye saved through FAITH;
and that NOT of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

[9] NOT of works, lest any man should boast.

Dagonet
Dagonet
6 years ago

THERE ARE GOOD PISSLAMISTS, DON’T F-ing KID YOURSELVES!!! (You’ll just never see them because they’re already in “paradise”.)

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Dagonet

LOL. Good one. Hopefully their 72 virgins are beating 7 shades of sh!t out of them…

Alleged-Comment
Alleged-Comment
6 years ago

For the most part, no matter what race or religion, people that are born here and grow up in America are generally more stable and reasonable people.

But how do you explain Demoncraps?

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
6 years ago

There are two types of muslims, jihadists and dormant jihadists. Nothing in between. In fact, the dormant jihadist do not actively fight or directly engage themselves in terrorism but they do support the goals of jihad and the terrorists. They may claim (LOI) to hate the acts of islamic terrorists, but they agree with the ultimate goal of the islamification of the world. Just because muslims claim (LOL) to be peaceful, that does not mean they do not believe in the precepts of their quran…They do neighbor!!

David Glynn
David Glynn
6 years ago

Excellent report! The ending words are very poignant to all us sane (non muslim) people. Would you take thousands of Nazis (muslims) as neighbours? No! No! No! But the people that govern us see fit to impose these islamonazis upon us while of course they live in their safe & securely guarded homes.
DEATH TO ISLAM!

lostdutchman
lostdutchman
6 years ago

All well and good, BUT how to differentiate? Would proximity to ‘devout muslims tend to bring out more devout behavior in the ‘moderates’, from a self protective motive?

Qur'an 18:86
Qur'an 18:86
6 years ago

The article makes a sound and important point – the false inference many make that the nice muslim friends disprove that Islam is obnoxious. BUT there’s something more fundamental going on. This is the background ideology of cultural relativism. People brought up in this crackpot religion assume a priori that other peoples’ religions are inherently not obnoxious, and to assume otherwise is to be guilty of white supremacism. In this context, the friendly muslims are the clinching proof of the prior assumption, while the terrorist acts can be dismissed as “nothing to do with Islam”. This latter is then made all the easier by avoiding studying the quran, or at worst, refusing to take its words seriously because only muslims are allowed to “interpret” their own religion (notwithstanding that the Quran declares that it is a clear book (12:1; 16:89; 27:75; 34:3; 36:12); easy to understand (44:58, 54:22, 54:32, 54:40); explained in detail (6:114); conveyed clearly (5:16, 10:15); with clear ordinances (98:3).
And nowhere does the Quran say “If you aren’t sure what a verse means, just ask an Imam or someone qualified to interpret it, who you can recognise by the official badge they wear etc.”.

David Glynn
David Glynn
6 years ago
Reply to  Qur'an 18:86

In a nutshell!
Well said.

Banjoboy
Banjoboy
6 years ago

I agree not ALL Muslims are bad but a significant number are proven to be bad , citizenship requires assimilation to this country, obey our laws,and live as an American. The President is right limit immigration until we figure it out MAGA Mr. President

Toy Pupanbai
Toy Pupanbai
6 years ago

There is only ONE ISLAM!
Radical Islam is the poisonous snake: Moderate Islam is the long grass!

Political_qrm
Political_qrm
6 years ago

An ex-Muslim saying not all muslims are bad….. Sounds like he’s still carrying the water for the 7th century culture which hates non-believers, treats women worse than dirt and whose object is to kill those who won’t convert and conquer Western Civilization .

If someone considers themselves a Muslim (albeit a non-practicing one) that indicates he or she believes in the Koran, Sharia and that mohammed is the ideal man who everyone should pattern themselves after. Mohammed was a cheat, liar, murderer, misogynist: no wonder it’s the fastest growing religion in our prisons; it validates the crimes they’re accused of committing..

If these ‘non-practicing’ muslims are around and If they’re so enlightened about the pitfalls of Islam, why do they still connect themselves to a culture which is on par with Nazism?

I don’t believe a word of that essay. Sounds like a load of taqiyya to me…

PatriotlizD
Patriotliz
6 years ago

Not ALL Muslim migrants to the West become Westernized, including the second-third generations. They see the hijrah as their duty to dominate the West w/ IslamoNazism and their goal is Civilization Jihad. All Muslims ostensibly seeking freedom in the WEST should therefore first become apostates o/w how can we even begin to trust them since we can never discern how “Islamic” any particular Muslim migrant REALLY is and if they will always see Islam as their first loyalty irregardless of how “religious” they may appear. I saw a video of a young Muslim migrant male in Germany mouthing off to an elderly German lady who was talking about incompatibility of Islam w/ the West and he said, as a Muslim, “I’m a citizen of Islam.” Don’t see much hope for integration in that scenario.
Islam is an enemy of the West and in perpetual warfare w/ the West so there’s no reason to allow followers of Islam into our country who adhere to the ideology of Islam in ANY form…even if it’s only “cultural.” If they attend a Mosque (which really should be banned in the West) and still consider themselves as part of the Islamic Ummah…they should be banned…just like we would ban German Nazis during WWII. We are at War w/ Islam even if the Western leaders are in complete denial about it because Islam is at War w/ us and always has been and always will be and, there’s no point inviting the enemy into our midst.comment image

Gordon Miller
Gordon Miller
6 years ago

Certainly, not all muslims are bad people waiting for the right moment to slash our throats.
But even good, peaceful, muslims are potentially our enemy. That’s because their primary allegiance is not to America, but to Allah and, for many, Islam and the Qur’an (or parts thereof). If they had the power, most would impose Sharia law, school curriculums, and their culture throughout this country. They abhor assimulation and, if they could, would force us to assimilate into their ways, but their laws (Sharia) and customs, in the main, are antithetical to ours.
I am also struck by the lack of condemnation of their radical brothers and sisters, and yes, many were overjoyed, as the Twin Towers burned to the ground, killing about 2,700 Americans. Of course, most kept their feelings hidden. I also wonder how they feel about the atrocities that are committed by their brothers in the Middle East.
And we should not forget that their birthrate exceeds non-muslims at least fourfold, and it’s only a matter of time before….
There is more to say, but this is getting too long. Suffice to say, we are facing a muslimiization of our country, and when I meet up with an ex-muslim, I feel very happy.

Stephen Honig
Stephen Honig
6 years ago

All Muslims who follow the Koran are bad to evil.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Honig

What a ridiculous statement. If a muslum doesn’t follow the quranus what’s the point in declaring oneself a muslum at all?

Stephen Honig
Stephen Honig
6 years ago

Are you talking about a queeanus? I’m only talking about those who follow the Koran. What about a secular Muslim? Your response is innate.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Honig

“secular muslim” is that like a good nazi?

Chris Wolf
Chris Wolf
6 years ago

George Clooney, a honorary muslim, if not a convert, donated 500K for the “March for Our Lives” gun confiscation march on Tallahassee and Washington, DC., according to a story on TMZ today.
George Clooney, a guy who lives in Italy and makes multiple millions pretending to be someone else and propagating Leftist Hollywood values on America, thinks he’s going to be our president in 2021.
He’s not forthright about his foundational financial support for mass movements against our Bill of Rights, and he wants to take an oath swearing to Protect and Defend the Constitution. He could have his pick of any woman but he marries a muslim. And he supports attempts to disarm law-abiding American citizens in the face of the obama immigration jihad.
What a scumbag.
I almost hope the Dimms nominate him — which they won’t because he’s not a black, illegal, muslim, lesbian, pacifist, hater, Robespierre — and he goes up against Trump, who will mop the floor with him 3-1.

wondering crusader
wondering crusader
6 years ago

“gavur” —
Sort of the equivalent of “Moose Lips” ?

jaz
jaz
6 years ago

they do kind of have moose lips tho

Andrew Sears
Andrew Sears
6 years ago

not all muslims bad? bullshit

hawkey
hawkey
6 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Sears

they’re just bums in the air. that’s all they are just bums in the air.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  hawkey

With their hands in the taxpayers welfare budget pocket.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

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Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

All muslims are good for is as street paving material, all they are is curb to curb welfare bums out flaunting the fact that they don’t work as alla has provided them with stupid people who pay them welfare to take up space and look stupid.

billdeserthills
billdeserthills
6 years ago

And this is why it is best to simply shoot them all & let God sort them out
& everybody lived happily ever after

dennis
dennis
6 years ago

why did usa get involved in middle east corruption that’s what i’d like to know!!!! they’re gonna F3ck up the planet getting every mineral and vitamin out of it.

billdeserthills
billdeserthills
6 years ago
Reply to  dennis

Hard to resist the banker’s charms is my guess

Nimadan
Nimadan
6 years ago

Saying the violence, aggression, and sexual psychopathology of ISIS is a perversion of true islam is like
saying the peacefulness of Trappists, Quakers and the Amish is a perversion of true Christianity.

The fact that most believers, whether Xtian or muslim, don’t practice what their prophets preached does
not change the fact their founders said what they said.

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