VIDEO: Pamela Geller on ABC’s ‘Up Close’ subway ad debate

I appeared on 'Up Close' with Diana Williams, WABC-TV’s public affairs show. I debated Rev. Jim Wallis of Sojourners, who is launching his own ad campaign on the subways, "hitting back" at ours.
It’s a pity that Rev. Jim Wallis didn’t get his group together to stand up when Christians, Hindus, and so many others were facing vicious persecution in Muslim countries. Where is Sojourners when Christians are victimized by jihad? Wallis is standing up for those who oppress and kill Christians.

Watch the dhimmi debate. Rioting, vandalism, and assault are legitimate responses to freedom of speech.

"Up Close: Subway" Ad NEW YORK (WABC) —

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Is it a message of hate, or free speech? Or both?

 We're talking about an ad in New York subway stations,
widely seen as anti-Muslim, that's sparking strong reaction and
pushback, including an arrest for vandalizing the controversial ads.

The ad reads "In any war between the civilized man and the savages,
support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat Jihad."

They are now posted in heavily trafficked areas such as Grand Central Station and Times Square.

We'll be joined by Pamela Geller, a conservative activist who created the ad.

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She is the executive director of American Freedom Defense Initiative and Stop Islamization of America.

Also with us is Jim Wallis, chief executive officer of Sojourners, a
Christian group which works to build alliances among people of different
faiths.

UPDATE: Robert Spencer says this:

Wallis says that people might get hurt because of Geller's ad. Note
how thoroughly he has absorbed the dhimmi mindset: he assumes that if
Muslims become violent, it is the fault of non-Muslims, who must adjust
their behavior in order to placate them.

The host shows that he holds the same assumptions when he asks Geller
why she is throwing a match into a powder keg. It doesn't seem to occur
either to him or to Wallis that the only people responsible for the
actions of violent Muslims are the violent Muslims who commit them.

Watch the clip. In it, Pamela Geller patiently explains to these
cringing dhimmis elementary principles of the freedom of speech and the
necessity not to kowtow to violent intimidation. She brilliantly skewers
their tolerance of evil and eagerness to adopt dhimmi self-censorship
to save their miserable skins.

More and more people in the public square are demonstrating an
inability to grasp this basic point, and that bodes quite ill: the
principle is being reinforced that all Muslims or anyone else have to do
in order to silence speech that they don't like is start acting
violently. Alan Dershowitz takes apart this idea in an excellent piece
about the MTA's new regulations, which state that ads will be barred if
people may react violently to them. Says Dershowitz: the new regulation
"incentivizes people to engage in violence. What it says to people, is
that if they don’t like ads, just engage in violence and then we’ll take
the ads down."

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We have already begun the process of testing this unconstitutional new regulation.

Pamela Geller will never stop talking. Nor will I. We will never
accept dhimmitude and submission. We will never bow to violent
intimidation. Jim Wallis and other dhimmi Christians and Jews ought to
be deeply, deeply ashamed of the stance they've taken: they have
validated and encouraged violence, hatred and oppression. If free people
and free societies survive, they will be looked upon as suicidal fools.