Geert Wilders in Tel Aviv: “Islam Conditions Muslims to hate Jews. It is a religious duty to do so. Israel must be destroyed because it is the homeland of the Jews”

UPDATE: Video of Wilders Speech …..scroll (thanks to Boaz)

I am not ashamed to stand with Israel, but proud. I am grateful to Israel. I will always defend Israel. Your country is the cradle of Western civilization. We call it the Judeo-Christian civilization with good reason.

Israel… is a beacon of light; it is like a Hanukkah menorah whose lights have been kindled in a region that until 1948 was engulfed by darkness.

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Friends, Israel is not to blame for the situation in the Middle East. The problem is Islam’s rejection of Israel’s right to exist. Only last month, Fatah concluded its convention in Ramallah by declaring its blatant refusal to recognize Israel as a Jewish state. Geert Wilders, Tel Aviv, December 5th

The formidable and indefatigable fighter for freedom, Dutch MP Geert Wilders, is in Israel. Wilders is a long time supporter of Israel, having visited that tiny, mighty nation close to 50 times during the course of his life.

Toda raba, Geert Wilders.

He is beloved by a people under siege daily. I thought Atlas readers would benefit from reading the full text of his remarks today in Tel Aviv.

Wilders leads the Netherlands’ third most popular party, which supports the ruling coalition. He is one of the few world leaders, if not the only one, who speaks of the religious motive behind the genocidal jihad against the Jews, and the true history of the Middle East. Wilders is fully informed on Islamic antisemitism, and urges Israel to build more homes in Judea and Samaria and to create defensible borders.

Wilders also righted the historical record and said that Jordan (nee Transjordan) is “Palestine,” and that Jordan should take in “Palestinians.”

Wilders’ speech is breathtaking, and its righteousness diminishes our already diminished President Obama.

Photo below: Dutch MP Geert Wilders speaks during a press conference in Tel Aviv, Sunday, Dec. 5. 2010.

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Speech Geert Wilders, Tel Aviv, 5 December 2010

 Shalom chaveriem,

Let me start by saying that it is with great sadness that I share your grief over the deaths of more than 40 brave Israelis who lost their lives – many while trying to save others in the great fire near Haifa. My country, the Netherlands, is amongst other countries helping to put down this fire, which is threatening the lives and property of thousands of your compatriots. I offer my heartfelt condolences to the families of those who perished. My thoughts are with them.

Israel is an immense source of inspiration for me. When I came to your country for the first time as a teenager, I lived here for a year.

I am not ashamed to stand with Israel, but proud. I am grateful to Israel. I will always defend Israel. Your country is the cradle of Western civilization. We call it the Judeo-Christian civilization with good reason.

Israel is often being treated unfairly. The world looks at the plight of the Palestinians in refugee camps in Lebanon, Gaza, and other places, and many blame Israel. The UN claims that there are over 4.7 million Palestinian refugees, and many blame Israel. These voices say the Palestinians should be allowed to return to “Palestine.” But where is Palestine? Many say Israel must solve the problems of Palestine. But is Israel guilty of the plight of the Palestinian refugees?

My answer is “No.” The Arab leaders are to be blamed – and Islam is to be blamed. Let me first tell you why, and then I will tell you where Palestine can be found.

At the end of World War II, there were 50 million refugees. Today, all the refugee problems dating from before the 1950s have been solved. All, except one – the problem of the Palestinians.

Why did this problem not get solved? The reason is simple: Because the Arab countries did not allow it to get solved. And because Islam does not allow it to get solved.

In May 1948, the number of Jews in the Arab countries was estimated to be close to 1 million. Today, fewer than 8,000 Jews are left in the entire Arab world. In 1948, the Arab countries forced the Jews out and confiscated their properties. More Jews fled the Arab countries than Arabs fled Israel. Where are the Jewish refugee camps? There are none.

So, why are there refugee camps for Palestinians in areas surrounding Israel? Because the Palestinians were not welcomed in the neighboring Arab countries. There was no Arab solidarity; the refugees were forced into camps and slums, where many of their descendants still linger today.

Under international definitions the status of refugee or displaced person only applies to first generation refugees. However, the UN makes an exception for Palestinians. Descendants of Palestinian refugees are granted the same refugee status as their ancestors. Consequently, the number of so-called Palestinian refugees registered with the UN increased from 711,000 in 1950 to over 4.7 million in 2010. These refugees are being used as a demographic weapon against Israel.

Instead of blaming the inhospitable Arab regimes, many blame Israel.

My friends, the blame should be laid where it belongs: with the Arab world. The Jewish refugees built new lives for themselves. They did what millions of refugees have done in the course of history, including, in the 20^th century, the Germans who had to leave Sudetenland and the lands east of the Oder and Neisse rivers, the Hungarians who fled Transsylvania, the Greeks who were ejected from the Aegean coast of Anatolia, the Hindus who fled the Punjab.

With each generation, the resentment of these refugees and their descendants slowly fades away. Time heals all wounds. Acceptance of the new situation is the norm.

Islam, however, conditions Muslims to hate Jews. It is a religious duty to do so. Israel must be destroyed because it is the homeland of the Jews.

Influential Islamic scholars, such as Muhammad Tantawi, the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar in Cairo, the most prestigious center of Muslim learning, call Jews “enemies of Allah.” Tantawi, who died last March, was generally considered a moderate by the Western media and policy makers. But how did this “moderate” address a delegation of Palestinian Muslims who visited him in 2002?

He urged them to intensify suicide attacks against Israelis, stating that every so-called “martyrdom operation” against – I quote – “any Israeli, including children, women, and teenagers, is a legitimate act according to [Islamic] religious law, and an Islamic commandment, until the people of Palestine regain their land.” – end of quote.

Nizar Qabbani, one of the most revered poets in the Arab world, praised the madness of those who are blinded by an ideology of hatred. In his poem Ode to the Intifada, he wrote: “O mad people of Gaza, A thousand greetings to the mad. The age of political reason has long departed. So teach us madness.”

Thát is the nature of the Islamic enemies confronting the Jews – sheer madness.

Israel, on the other hand, is a beacon of light; it is like a Hanukkah menorah whose lights have been kindled in a region that until 1948 was engulfed by darkness.

Friends, Israel is not to blame for the situation in the Middle East. The problem is Islam’s rejection of Israel’s right to exist. Only last month, Fatah concluded its convention in Ramallah by declaring its blatant refusal to recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

The problem is also our Western leaders’ refusal to understand that Israel is the West’s canary in the coalmine: If the Jews are denied the right to live in freedom and peace, soon we will all be denied this right. If the light of Israel is extinguished, we will all face darkness. If Israel falls, the West falls. That is why we are all Israel.

But as long as the West refuses to understand how the Palestinians are used as a weapon against Israel, it will not be able to see who is truly to blame; it will not be able to see that it is not Israel’s duty to provide a Palestinian state – for the simple reason that there already is a Palestinian state and that state is Jordan.

Indeed, my friends, Jordan is Palestine. Take a look at the map of this part of the world after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire following World War I. Both contemporary Israel and contemporary Jordan were part of the British Mandate of Palestine.

In 1922, the British partitioned Palestine into Cisjordan and Transjordan – the latter comprising 78 per cent of the territory of Palestine. The British handed that territory over to their ally, the Hashemite strongman Abdallah ibn Hussein. Abdallah was the son of the emir Hussein bin Ali, guardian of the Islamic holy city of Mecca. The Hashemites belong to the Quraish tribe – the tribe of Islam founder Muhammad. They are a foreign body in Palestine.

In 1946, Transjordan became an independent state under Hashemite rule. In November 1947, the United Nations proposed to partition the remaining 22 per cent of Palestine. The territory between the Jordan River and the sea was divided into a Jewish and an Arab part. The Jewish representatives accepted the UN partition plan, but the Arab representatives refused. In an attempt to “drive all the Jews into the sea,” they began the 1948 war – which they lost.

They took revenge, however, on the Jews in East Jerusalem and the rest of Cisjordan – the ancient provinces of Judea and Samaria – held by the Arab forces. This entire region was ethnically cleansed of all Jews. Even the names of Judea and Samaria were wiped off the map and replaced by the ridiculous term “West Bank.” A river bank of over 40 kilometers wide. I come from a country full of rivers, and there the river banks are only a few dozen meters wide.

Israel, including Judea and Samaria, has been the land of the Jews since time immemorial. Judea means Land of the Jews. Never in the history of the world has there been an autonomous state in the area that was not Jewish. The Diaspora of the Jews, which began after their defeat by the Romans in AD 70, did not lead to the departure of all the Jews from their ancient homeland. Jews had been living in the Jordan Valley for centuries until the Arab invaders drove them out in 1948, when the provinces of Judea and Samaria were occupied by the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan, which abbreviated its name to Jordan in 1950.

 And until 1967, when Israel regained the ancient Jewish heartland of Judea and Samaria, no-one, not a single Islamic scholar or Western politician, ever demanded that there be an independent Palestinian state in the so-called West Bank.

Must Israel trade land for peace? Should it assign Judea and Samaria to another Palestinian state – a second one, next to Jordan? My friends, let me be very clear: The conflict in the Middle East is not a conflict over territory, but rather an ideological battle.

People are mistaken when they assume that giving up Judea and Samaria and East Jerusalem and letting the Palestinians have it, will end the conflict between Israel and the Arabs. In 2005, Israel sacrificed the settlements in Gaza for the sake of peace. Did it get peace?

On the contrary, because the conflict is essentially ideological, the situation worsened. Because the conflict is ideological, territorial concessions are counterproductive. Ideologies cannot be defeated by concessions. They are encouraged and emboldened by it.Ideologies must be confronted with the iron will never to give in, “never, never, never, never – in nothing, great or small, large or petty.” That is the lesson which the world learned from Winston Churchill when he confronted the evil ideology of nazism.

This conflict here in the Middle East is not about land and borders, but about Islamic jihadism opposing Western liberty. From the moment that Israel was founded, the Arab leaders have rejected every partition plan and every initiative for a territorial settlement. The Islamic ideology simply does not accept the concept of a Jewish state. Neither Hamas nor Fatah are willing to recognize the right of the Jewish people to a state of their own in their historic homeland. No territorial concession on Israel’s part can ever change that.

Israel’s ideological enemies want to wipe Israel out as a nation. They simply deny the Jewish state the right to exist and to live in peace, dignity and liberty.

For the sake of its own survival and security, Israel needs defendable borders. A country that is only 15 kilometers wide is impossible to defend. That is the strategic reason why Jews need to settle Judea and Samaria.

Therefore, the Jewish towns and villages in Judea and Samaria are not an impediment to peace; they are an expression of the Jewish right to exist in this land. They are tiny outposts of freedom, defying ideological forces which deny not only Israel but the entire West the right to live in peace, dignity and liberty.

Let us never forget that Islam threatens not just Israel; Islam threatens the entire world. Without Judea and Samaria, Israel cannot protect Jerusalem. The future of the world depends on Jerusalem. If Jerusalem falls, Athens and Rome – and Paris, London and Washington – will be next.

Thus, Jerusalem is the main front protecting our common civilization. When the flag of Israel no longer flies over the walls of Jerusalem, the West will no longer be free.

However, a peaceful solution must also be found for the many Palestinians in the refugee camps in Lebanon, Gaza and elsewhere. Each year, hundreds of millions of euros and dollars are spent on the Palestinian refugees in international aid

The financial assistance, however, did not provide the refugees a new home, a place to live and build a future for their children and grandchildren. It is obvious where this place should be. It should be Palestine, just as, after the Second World War, the obvious place for the German refugees from the East to go to, was Germany. Since Jordan is Palestine, it is the duty of the Jordanian government to welcome all Palestinian refugees who voluntarily want to settle there.

Until the late 1980s, Jordan’s Hashemite rulers did not deny that their country was Palestine. They said so on numerous occasions. In 1965, King Hussein said: “Those organizations which seek to differentiate between Palestinians and Jordanians are traitors.” As late as 1981, Hussein repeated – I quote – “Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan.”

In March 1971, The Palestine National Council, too, stated that – I quote – “what links Jordan to Palestine is a national bond […] formed, since time immemorial, by history and culture. The establishment of one political entity in Transjordan and another in Palestine is illegal.” – end of quote.

By the late 1970s, however, the Arab authorities began to differentiate between Jordanians and Palestinians. What was previously considered to be treason and illegality suddenly became the propaganda line.

In March 1977, PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein admitted in a candid interview in the Dutch newspaper Trouw: – I quote –

“Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism. For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot lay claim to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.” – end of quote.

In 1988, as the first Intifada raged, Jordan officially renounced any claim of sovereignty to the so-called West Bank. In recent years, the Jordanian authorities have stripped thousands of Palestinians of their Jordanian citizenship. They do so for two reasons.

First, because the alien Hashemite rulers fear that the Palestinians might one day take over their own country. And second, because stripping Palestinians of their Jordanian citizenship supports the falsehood that Jordan is not a part of Palestine. And that, consequently, the Palestinians must attack Israel if they want a place of their own.

By arbitrarily reducing thousands of their citizens to statelessness, the Jordanian authorities want to force the Palestinians to turn their aspirations towards the establishment of another Palestinian state in Judea and Samaria. This decision is a great injustice committed by the Hashemite rulers of Jordan – this foreign clan which the British installed.

I am not naïve. I am not blind to the possibility that if Jordan were to be ruled by the Palestinians, this might lead to political radicalization in Jordan. However, a continuation of the present situation will most certainly lead to radicalization. We need a paradigm shift. If we keep thinking along the same lines as we have done so far, no peaceful solution of the Palestinian problem is possible without endangering the existence of Israel and disrupting the social and economic fabric in Judea and Samaria. Resettling millions of Palestinians in these small provinces is simply impossible and is not going to happen.

To the skeptics, I say: What is the alternative? Leaving the present situation as it is? No, my friends, the world must recognize that there has been an independent Palestinian state since 1946, and it is the Kingdom of Jordan.

Allowing all Palestinians to voluntarily settle in Jordan is a better way towards peace than the current so-called two-states-approach (in reality a three-states-approach) propagated by the United Nations, the U.S. administration, and governing elites all over the world. We only want a democratic non-violent solution for the Palestinian problem. This requires that the Palestinian people should be given the right to voluntarily settle in Jordan and freely elect their own government in Amman. If the present Hashemite King is still as popular as today, he can remain in power. That is for the people of Palestine to decide in real democratic elections.

My friends, let us adopt a totally new approach. Let us acknowledge that Jordan is Palestine.

And to the Western world I say: Let us stand with Israel because the Jews have no other state, while the Palestinians already have Jordan. Let us stand with Israel because the history of our civilization began here, in this land, the homeland of the Jews. Let us stand with Israel because the Jewish state needs defendable borders to secure its own survival. Let us stand with Israel because it is the frontline in the battle for the survival of the West.

We must speak the truth. The truth that Jordan is Palestine, the truth that Samaria and Judea are part of Israel, the truth that Jerusalem may not fall, the truth that Israel is the only democracy in a dark and tyrannical region, the truth that Israel is the linchpin of the West.

Of course, I am just a foreign guest and should be modest. Israel is a democracy and I respect every decision which its people and government will make. But I am proud to be here and grateful for the opportunity to share my thoughts and beliefs with you.

Because it is here that our civilization is under attack as we speak. It is here that we, men and women of the West, must show our resolve to defend ourselves. It is here that Israel has lit the light of freedom and that Europeans and Americans must help the Israelis to keep that light shining in the darkness. For Israel’s sake and for the sake of all of us.

Toda raba… And shalom to all of you.

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Diplomad

13 years ago

How come when Jordan held the West Bank, we never heard it called Occupied Palestine?

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john jay

13 years ago

pamela:
truth, clearly, cogently and persuasively stated, is always beautiful, and forever enlightening.
this is why wilder’s remarks will be suppressed by the western media, scorned by leftist diplomats and dimbulbs, and excoriated by islam.
but, his remarks stand true. and, timeless.
let his remarks become policy, and let the “palestinians,” a lie invented by the p.l.o. as demonstrated by wilders, return home to transjordan. this was something the british, oddly enough, did right when they made jordan the home of the ethnic arabs we now call “palestinians.”
g_d bless wilders, as he has surely guided him.
john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa
p.s. and, g_d bless you, pamela geller, for printing the full text of wilders’s remarks.

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john jay

13 years ago

diplomad:
cogent observation.
i suppose the answer is, it served no propaganda purpose for the arab world to point out, as wilders does in his speech, that arab islam has treated its fellow co-religionists shabbily, and solely as a tool by which to seek the destruction of israel. (the interests of 1.2 billion outweigh the interests of 4.7 million pawns. and, that is what they are, pawns and canon fodder in service of islamic goals.)
diplomad, when jordan held the west bank, it did not serve the purpose of islam & the arabs to do as you remark. eh?
john jay

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Monica

13 years ago

We couldn’t contain the Nazi’s hatred and supermacism and we won’t be allowed to control the growth of Islamic Supremacism because the left embrace it’s tenets because it mirrors the modern left’s political ethos. We’ve imported so much hatred and their unholy wars upon our soil, Judao Christian values built the west and the Islamists are trying to tear down the foundation of our democracies and replace it with thugacracies run by leftwing nuts and Islamists. There can only be one, and THE one is Islamists controling us and our freedoms.

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Joe Six-Pack

13 years ago

All of Israel is ‘occupied’ MUSLIM land. The ‘Nation of Islam’ at work. Islam is a form of government with an army of the type that was being fielded by religions during and prior to the Middle Ages. Yes, Israel IS the front line in this war.

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Lumberjohn

13 years ago

The Jordanians will never allow this to happen, for there would be a repeat of Black September when the Palestinians acquired tank columns from the Syrian army and were heading to Amman. It was then that King Hussein requested help to stop this advance and the USA asked Israel to save Jordan. The IAF were scrambled and buzzed the tank column in Jordan and they backed off and returned to Syria. Thus the hatred that exists today also includes this anger, that their state takeover was stopped by Israel.
Mr. Wilders also neglected to mention one of the largest movements of human beings, that of the Muslims from India moving to East and West Pakistan. Muslims are well aware of the fact that they can move to new lands with sufficient motivation. The best way to solve this problem is to create a new Palestinian state, some 800 miles from Jerusalem (the distance between Berlin and Jerusalem). If one takes a compass and puts it on a map, set to 800 miles, there are good regions that they can move to. It does not have to be an arduous move like the one in India. Recent history has shown that cruise ships could be used to transport the entire region to a new land, somewhere within the aforementioned radius. In fact, one of the most interesting areas that is 800 miles from Gaza is southern Afghanistan, which is currently getting a new infrastructure. One wonders if Al Qaeda jumped the gun in moving there first.

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jack

13 years ago

This is arguably the best speech I have seen on this topic by anyone. Wilders lays out the truth better than even the Israelis themselves do. I would highly suggest that everyone read this, especially current and future US political figures, of both parties. This is the truth that needs to be laid out.
Wilders clearly gets it. Anyone who wants to run for President could do themselves a whole bunch of good by meeting with him even for a half hour. We need leaders who recoginze what Wilders does, and who aren’t afraid to say it and then to implement policies to defeat it.
Imagine our new President meeting with Wilders at the WH in 2013…It can happen.

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UbinBUSHwhacked

13 years ago

Democracy is at threat! Our Founding Fathers couldn’t have foreseen it. The US Constitution must be amended! ACT TODAY!!!! Start your own blogs for our freedoms that are at threat. We ALL need to get the word out. Live by it. Expose others as well. BLOG BLOG BLOG.
http://ubinbushwhacked.blogspot.com

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Tom Billesley

13 years ago

Muslims are well aware of the fact that they can move to new lands with sufficient motivation.
Yes and about 2 million muslims, sufficiently motivated by policies of our own government, have settled here in the UK.
Of course, after the London bombings in 2005 and suffering from backlashophobia, two thirds of muslims polled said they had thought about leaving the UK.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/jul/26/polls.july7
Needless to say, for some reason there hasn’t been any sign of mass flight of muslims from the UK. Is the MSM hiding this depopulation from us?
And now, after the attacks in Lahore, Pakistan, the Sunni musims in the UK feel strong enough to import their enmity and attacks on the less rabid Ahmadi muslims in the UK. Any signs of this happening in the US? The Sunni muslims use the derogatory term “Qadiani” or “Qadiyani” for the Ahmadi / Ahmadiyya muslims.
Channel 4 News Dec 5th 2010
http://www.channel4.com/news/hate-crime-investigation-into-threats-against-ahmadi-muslims

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rachelle

13 years ago

A great man gives a great speach. One quibble. they are Atabs. there is no such thing as a palestinitian unless one means to refer to Jews born or living in the area of the British controlled area denminated Palestine on some maps before the establishment of Israel in a slightly insulting manner rather than the more Zionisr phrase of Sabra. The books and articles of the 1930s are very clear — as is almost all literature until the PR blitz of the 1970s — that there are Jews/Israelis and there are Arabs in a life and death contest that mirrors the equally endless contest between Arabs and Christians.

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Azygos

13 years ago

Pam
Gd bless you and Gert I will continue to pray for you.

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Richard 2

13 years ago

Once incident that I may have missed in the speech was when Jordan turned its Army loose on the “Palestinians” inside Jordan because they were pushing for a nation of their own from the land on the West Bank. Jordan didn’t want to give up that land and drove the “refugees” into Lebanon and told them to take it and Israel for their country.

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Richard 2

13 years ago

We didn’t contain the Nazis, we destroyed them, WWII was a war of survival and we won it, now we are in another war of survival and we are faced with internal traitors who are working to help defeat us. Giving up won’t keep our freedom, we can win if we will fight. But we have to fight rather then just say the war is already lost, take a good look at what is going on around the world and see the signs that the ordinary people are organizing to protect their nations and cultures.
We can win this war but we have to fight, there was never a war or a battle in which the loser didn’t have enough men and material to win the war. You win wars by destroying the enemies will to resist, you are doing their job for them by surrendering before the beginning of the war is over.

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Richard 2

13 years ago

One of the front lines, all of Europe, North America and Asia are also on the front lines of the war, in this war no one is going to be safe, and no where will be safe.

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ronmorgen

13 years ago

Democracy is not what we need to save, righteousness is. It is in fact the abandonment of righteousness by “the people” that has gotten us on this road to destruction. Only a return to righteousness by “the people” will get us back on track. Keep in mind that Nazi Germany was a democracy. The people voted for Hitler as they have voted for Obama most recently.

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Richard 2

13 years ago

I don’t know about any attacks by Moslems on other Moslems but the Moslems in the US are attacking us on a regular bases, fortunately most of the attacks fail. But it only takes one successful one to one too many.

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Richard 2

13 years ago

Only if it is a Republican, hopefully the new President will inform the people that militant Islam is at war with us and keep that idea in front of the people so we don’t go back to sleep.

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Richard 2

13 years ago

No Nazi Germany was not a Democracy, Hitler was appointed Chancellor after being elected to Parliament. After he took power in 1932 he stopped all elections and ruled by Imperial edict, part of our problem is the distortion of history by the left so they can take over, you can have the US return to being an openly Christian Nation and still have Democracy.

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ronmorgen

13 years ago

Geert Wilders’ speech lays the conflict out very clearly. He cuts through the delusion which has been taught from schools, media, and leaders in government until almost everyone believes the lie. When we choose a candidate for president for 2012, I would like him or her to be in complete agreement with this history lesson.

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ronmorgen

13 years ago

Ok I stand corrected. My meaning was that for a democracy to work out well you must have a well informed public, not a delusional one as Germany did, and we do now.

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LizardAZ

13 years ago

Amen Geert, Amen!!! Bravo!!!
Pam…Can you put this on Breitbart? Everybody needs to hear this. The truth needs to be heard. I’m sending out e-mail links to your site right now.

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profitsbeard

13 years ago

Islam is incompatible with a liberty-loving civilization.
The Koranically-declared aim of this ‘faith’ is a planetary theocratic tyranny run by intolerant, terror-employing totalitarian fanatics.
No one who values a free future can do anything but oppose this ideology.
Wilders makes the case against accepting the lies about Islam’s intentions and rallies the defense of the West in the strongest terms since Churchill.
He makes every other Western “leader” look like a lying impotent fool or traitor.
Go Geert!

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john jay

13 years ago

richard 2:
the jordanians expelled the p.l.o. & yasser arafat from jordan by simply killing them until they left.
queen noor’s (lisa najeeb halaby)hubby hussein killed the p.l.o. & “palestinians” in droves, not unremarked upon at the time but certainly not eliciting the hanky wringing that a palestinian death causes now, driving them from jordan.
it is safe to say that hussein & the jordanian army have killed more palestinian arabs than israel has ever dreamed of sending to islamic heaven, and probably more arabs than israel has killed in its various conflicts in the middle east since 1948.
hell, it is quite likely that hamas, abbas, al fatah & p.l.o. and the other splinter radical groups in the west bank and gaza over the years, have killed more palestinian “civilians” and terrorists than israel has ever dreamed of: they kill each other as assiduously and enthusiastically as the jordanians ever did.
it seems that the “palestinians” are a disagreeable and despised lot. nobody, of any stripe, wants anything to do with them. wilders’s solution makes as much sense as anyone’s ever has.
for israel to contemplate having these scalliwags in her midst is suicidal beyond belief. there is a reason they are despised. the only person i have ever known of who has expressed affection and admiration for them is jimmy carter, … , and that is most assuredly eloquent testimony to something, … , i am not sure what. laughing.
john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa
p.s. as a general proposition, middle eastern arabs/muslims have killed many times over the number of middle eastern arabs/muslims than can be attributed to israel. my guess is that less than 1% of arab/muslim violent death in the middle east could be attributed to israel, as compared to the numbers of arab/muslims killed by arab/muslims. whatever the percentage might be, attributable to israel in war and as reprisal for terrorism, it is minuscule in comparison to the muslim’s self slaughter.

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john jay

13 years ago

richard 2:
very well said. spot on.
john jay

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john jay

13 years ago

richard 2 & ronmorgen:
actually, after hitler was appointed chancellor that appointment was ratified, overwhelmingly, by plebiscite. wikipedia has a pretty good article on this.
once that little “detail” was taken care of, hitler moved to consolidate his power, and i do not think i would quibble with richard 2’s characterization of his rule.
but, his initial assumption of rule was observed by all of the various legal niceties. once he had rule, he did not give it up.
there are historical parallels to be drawn, if one wishes to draw them, and certainly they exist as massive cautions. even with this mid-term election, and even with obama’s “profile” decidedly drooping, … , how do you say, he seems to have lost his mojo, … , there is plenty to be very cautious, and observant & alert, about our little friend b. insane obama.
john jay

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Art Telles

13 years ago

Sheer Madness…
“That is the nature of the Islamic enemies confronting the Jews – sheer madness.”
“And to the Western world I say: Let us stand with Israel because…,” it’s the right thing to do to STOP! the madness!!!
And as someone commented above –
“Anyone who wants to run for President could do themselves a whole bunch of good by meeting with him… .”
I add this respectfully for the benefit of my favorite political iconoclast and possibly the 1st female POTUS… Sarah Palin should start quoting from this Geert Wilders speech which he gave while in Israel… BEFORE she meets with him… like in her next Tweet and Facebook post. ASAP.
Art
Only Yahweh, baruch hashem, can … STOP! Islamization Of America … with our informed speech and action

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a

13 years ago

forget jordan. get rid of the fakestinians. far far away. put ’em on ships, boats, trains, i don’t care. they have consistently demonstrated blood lust. if the fakestinians got jordan it would be worse than hamas-stan in gaza now.
any arab living in israel must sign a loyalty oath, have limited political rights and be expelled for any violation. anyone associated with hamas or fatach should be tried, killed or deported far away.
we are dealing with nazis here folks. nazis who speak arabic and follow islam.
since when do barabaric, deceitful people who continuously call for the death of israel and the jews be entitled to any kind of rights? hell no.

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Robert Laity

13 years ago

ISLAM IS PURELY EVIL AND ANATHEMA.

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H.L. Towler

13 years ago

Thank God for people like Mr. Wilders! I truly admire the fact that he isn’t afraid to stand firmly and speak the truth in the faces of these mosquemonkeys. If our leaders in the U.S. had the balls he has, we’d not be dealing with these qu’ raimals in the first place.

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MichaelM

13 years ago

The world NEEDS more men like Wilders. All readers please pray for him and his family’s safety because he has a huge target on him. And yet he perseveres. Much like Gellar and Spencer. I know that I keep them all in my daily prayers, that G-D keep them and their loved ones safe from evil and the evildoers.

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vizard

13 years ago

Jordan is the rightful home of the palestinians,but the truth is no one would really want those people in thier country,who in thier right mind would live with a society of terrorists and suicide bombers,Israel has given them so much(which in my opinion they never should have got),but as we all know it is the nature of all muslims to keep taking and destroying till there is nothing left,then finally when the have everything they destroy themselves.

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a

13 years ago

clarify: any killed should be those who have murdered,esp those who killed jews. death penalty for them; including the leaders and their associates. just like nurembberg. these slime are nazis and should be treated as such.

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Sitch

13 years ago

I do not think Wilders is very informed. Does he know how many orthodox Jews are discriminating “Non Jews”? This is hardly discussed! Does he know the influence of religion on Politics and the Israeli law System?
As long as religions are dogmatic and “clubby; with a childish behaviour of “we are right”,
Judaism, Islam as well as Christianism
As long as there is no seperation between state and religion, like in Isreal and Iran..
There is no harmony possible and both sides are wrong.
Dogmatic Religions kill the heart!

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