[ April 27, 2024 ]
Reader Ari sent me this disturbing email. Let's continue editing this patently biased article and reverse the "site administrator's" decision. Are there any Atlas readers who can assist Ari with this?
Hi Pamela. I browsed through a heavily biased and slanted Wiki article
yesterday (8/31) dealing with the Second Lebanon War. Israeli achievements were
discounted while reversals were highlighted. The converse was true for
Hezbollah. I decided to edit the article and bring some balance into the
picture. Being a novice to Wiki, I taught myself some of the basics. I then
thoroughly researched the issues, cross-referenced them, sourced and at times,
double sourced my edits.
yesterday (8/31) dealing with the Second Lebanon War. Israeli achievements were
discounted while reversals were highlighted. The converse was true for
Hezbollah. I decided to edit the article and bring some balance into the
picture. Being a novice to Wiki, I taught myself some of the basics. I then
thoroughly researched the issues, cross-referenced them, sourced and at times,
double sourced my edits.
I uploaded the edits only to find them deleted minutes later. I then
received a message from a "site administrator" going by the username "Fayssalf."
He claimed that my edits were not neutral and proceeded to delete them. I went
on to his page only to discover that he is an Arab. More importantly, my edits
were not biased and were heavily sourced. In addition, a reader can take the
information at face value and determine its veracity based on the source. Thus
if the reader deems the source to be unreliable or biased the reader may
discount the information. By unilaterally deleting my edits, the site
administrator is substituting the reader's judgment with his own and this is
censorship in its worst form.
received a message from a "site administrator" going by the username "Fayssalf."
He claimed that my edits were not neutral and proceeded to delete them. I went
on to his page only to discover that he is an Arab. More importantly, my edits
were not biased and were heavily sourced. In addition, a reader can take the
information at face value and determine its veracity based on the source. Thus
if the reader deems the source to be unreliable or biased the reader may
discount the information. By unilaterally deleting my edits, the site
administrator is substituting the reader's judgment with his own and this is
censorship in its worst form.
I have enclose the edits and you can judge for yourself.
The first two paragraphs dealt with background to the war and were inserted
in the "Background" paragraph of the article. The last four paragraphs dealt
with post war events and were inserted in the "Post War Events" section of the
article. the numbers are where I inserted footnotes and sources.
in the "Background" paragraph of the article. The last four paragraphs dealt
with post war events and were inserted in the "Post War Events" section of the
article. the numbers are where I inserted footnotes and sources.
Any assistance you can extend to reverse this bias/censorship would be
appreciated.
appreciated.
In late June of 2005 an IDF paratroop unit operating near Shaba Farms
detected and engaged a three-man Hezbollah squad that had infiltrated the area.
In the day long chase that followed, the IDF force succeeded in killing the
squad’s commander while his two comrades fled back across the border. A
videotape captured by the paratroopers contained evidence that left little doubt
of Hezbollah’s intention to abduct soldiers. [44]
The following 12 months witnessed three more attempts by Hezbollah to
abduct soldiers. All of these were thwarted by the IDF. The most audacious
attempt occurred on November 21, 2005 when dozens of heavily armed Hezbollah
special forces, under cover of mortar and rocket fire, crossed the border on
foot, motorcycles and ATVs and stormed an Israeli outpost at Kafr Rajar. The
outpost however was empty and the Hezbollah force fell victim to an Israeli
ambush. A lone Israeli marksman, Cpl. David Markowitz succeeded in killing four
guerillas. The remaining force retreated back to their positions in Lebanon,
leaving much of their equipment behind. [45]
Story continues below advertisement
On February 12, 2008 a car bomb in Damascus killed Imad Mugniyah, the
head of Hezbollah’s military wing. As its chief military strategist, Mugniyah’s
assassination dealt the organization a severe blow. [280]
According to Israeli intelligence sources, someone had replaced the headrest of
the driver’s seat with another containing a small high explosive charge. [281]
Israel considered Mugniyah a “significant force behind actions against Israel”
and connected him to the kidnapping of the two reservist soldiers. [282]
On July 14, 2009 an underground Hezbollah ammunition depot set off a
massive series of explosions in the South Lebanese village of Khirbat Silim,
just ten miles north of the Israeli-Lebanese border. Hezbollah, embarrassed by
the incident and its apparent violation of UN Security Counsel Resolution 1701,
blamed the explosion on, “leftover shells that had been collected during and
after Israel’s withdrawal from Lebanon,” in 2000.[283]
However, United Nations Under-Secretary-General for Peacekeeping Operations,
Alain LeRoy, placed the blame squarely on Hezbollah and blamed the organization
for heightened tensions in Southern Lebanon.[284]
On July 15, 2009 an Iranian Tupolev commercial airliner crashed in
northwest Iran. The Italian newspaper, Corriere della Sera, reported that the
crash-which left 168 people dead-was caused by the explosion of sophisticated
fuses slated to be delivered to Hezbollah. The aircraft was carrying a large
number of modern fuses composed of two kilograms of explosives and electrical
instrumentation. Members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, who accompanied
the contraband, were also killed in the crash. [285]
On August 23, 2009 villagers of the South Lebanese village of
Marwakhin forcefully repelled efforts by Hezbollah gunmen to store weapons in
their village. The incident was filmed by the IDF’s field intelligence Corps.
[286]
[287]
UPDATE: There's mor. Ari demands an explanation and the propaganda spewers explain how they do:
FayssalF responded to my demand for an explanation for his deletions of my
edits. They are listed below:
(my username is jiujitsuguy)
edits. They are listed below:
(my username is jiujitsuguy)
Hi there Faysself. I see that you were quick to revert my edits but not so
quick to explain why you thought the sourced material violated neutrality. I
would like an explanation please. —Jiujitsuguy
(talk) 00:09, 2
September 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jiujitsuguy. Nobody can be connected onwiki for 24h :) Well, the following
are your edits…
-
- In late June of 2005 an IDF paratroop unit operating near Shaba Farms
detected and engaged a three-man Hezbollah squad that had infiltrated the area.
In the day long chase that followed, the IDF force succeeded in killing the
squad’s commander while his two comrades fled back across the border. A
videotape captured by the paratroopers contained evidence that left little doubt
of Hezbollah’s intention to abduct soldiers. <ref>Amos Harel,
“Chronicle of Disaster,” 07/18/08, www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1003170.html</ref>
- reason: This sounds as like press release made by an army.
succeeded, evidence, little doubt, intention are all
terms used by a biased source. The use of such heavy words makes your tone so
biased unless the newspaper is using the same words and in such a case it would
be deemed a biased source.
- The following 12 months witnessed three more attempts by Hezbollah to abduct
soldiers. All of these were thwarted by the IDF. The most audacious attempt
occurred on November 21, 2005 when dozens of heavily armed Hezbollah special
forces, under cover of mortar and rocket fire, crossed the border on foot,
motorcycles and ATVs and stormed an Israeli outpost at Kafr Rajar. The outpost
however was empty and the Hezbollah force fell victim to an Israeli ambush. A
lone Israeli marksman, Cpl. David Markowitz succeeded in killing four guerillas.
The remaining force retreated back to their positions in Lebanon, leaving much
of their equipment behind. <ref>Dudkevitch, Paratrooper Sniper Becomes
Hero, Jerusalem Post Online Edition, 11/22/05.</ref>
- reason: Sounds too heroic for an encyclopedia tone. Look at the
source again. Imagine a Hizbollah's partisan media talking about this same event
if it ever took place.
- On February 12, 2008 a car bomb in Damascus killed Imad Mugniyah, the head
of Hezbollah’s military wing. As its chief military strategist, Mugniyah’s
assassination dealt the organization a severe blow. <ref>Zisser,
Nasrallah’s Defeat in the 2006 War, 01/23/09, http://netwmd.com/blog/2009/01/3167</ref>
According to Israeli intelligence sources, someone had replaced the headrest of
the driver’s seat with another containing a small high explosive charge.
<ref>http://yalibnan.com/site/archives/2008/02/israel_killed_h.php
</ref> Israel considered Mugniyah a “significant force behind actions
against Israel” and connected him to the kidnapping of the two reservist
soldiers. <ref>Greenberg, Militay Intelligence: Hizbullah lost its number
one figure, ynetnews.com, 2/13/08</ref>
- reason: Note the blog in the website address. Blogs are not
used as reliable sources. We are also talking about the 2006 Lebanon War so the
this whole edits about Imad Mughniya which happened on 2008 is considered undue
weight. See WP:UNDUE.
- On July 14, 2009 an underground Hezbollah ammunition depot set off a massive
series of explosions in the South Lebanese village of Khirbat Silim, just ten
miles north of the Israeli-Lebanese border. Hezbollah, embarrassed by the
incident and its apparent violation of UN Security Counsel Resolution 1701,
blamed the explosion on, “leftover shells that had been collected during and
after Israel’s withdrawal from Lebanon,” in 2000.<ref>Associated Press,
Hezbollah: Lebanon blast set off by old shells, 7/22/09</ref> However,
United Nations Under-Secretary-General for Peacekeeping Operations, Alain LeRoy,
placed the blame squarely on Hezbollah and blamed the organization for
heightened tensions in Southern Lebanon.<ref>Benhorin, UN official: Arms
Cache that exploded in Lebanon was Hezbollah’s, ynetnews.com, 7/23/09</ref>
- reason: Embarassed, apparent? That aside, is this
article about the 2006 events or 2009? Please do review WP:NPOV and WP:UNDUE.
- On July 15, 2009 an Iranian Tupolev commercial airliner crashed in
northwest Iran. The Italian newspaper, Corriere della Sera, reported that the
crash-which left 168 people dead-was caused by the explosion of sophisticated
fuses slated to be delivered to Hezbollah. The aircraft was carrying a large
number of modern fuses composed of two kilograms of explosives and electrical
instrumentation. Members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, who accompanied
the contraband, were also killed in the crash. <ref>Magal, Iran Plane
was carrying arms for Hezbollah, ynetnews.com (citing Corriere della Sera),
08/02/09.</ref>
- On August 23, 2009 villagers of the South Lebanese village of Marwakhin
forcefully repelled efforts by Hezbollah gunmen to store weapons in their
village. The incident was filmed by the IDF’s field intelligence Corps.
<ref>http://www.youtube.com/user/idfdesk?blend=4&ob=4</ref>
<ref>Lebanese villagers recorded driving away Hezbollah men, Ynetnews.com,
8/25/09</ref>
- reason: Undue weight again. And Youtube is not a reliable source. —
FayssalF – Wiki me
up® 00:58, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
- In late June of 2005 an IDF paratroop unit operating near Shaba Farms
You can clearly see that Fassyelf is oozing bias.
Paragraph 1: Basis for denial, "Sounds like an army press release."
Paragraph 2: Basis for denial, "Sounds too heroic."
The last four paragraphs dealt specifically with post war events and there
is a section in the Wiki article that specifically addresses this topic.
Therefore, all these post war edits/additions were very relevant.
is a section in the Wiki article that specifically addresses this topic.
Therefore, all these post war edits/additions were very relevant.
Paragraph 3: He objected to the use of a Blog as a source. That was one
of three sources used in that paragraph.
of three sources used in that paragraph.
Paragraph 4: He objected to the use of the words "embarassed" and
"apparent"
"apparent"
Paragraphs 5 and 6 were lumped together. As for paragraph 6, He objected to
YouTube as a source. I cited Ynet as well as YouTube. That aside, the reason why
I cited Youtube is because the video of the event was uploaded by IDFdesk and
could be viewed at its channel. Wiki readers should have a chance to view the
video and decide for themselves.
YouTube as a source. I cited Ynet as well as YouTube. That aside, the reason why
I cited Youtube is because the video of the event was uploaded by IDFdesk and
could be viewed at its channel. Wiki readers should have a chance to view the
video and decide for themselves.
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