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Barr told prosecutors to charge violent protesters with sedition
By Jeff Mordock – The Washington Times – September 16, 2020:
Attorney General William P. Barr told federal prosecutors last week to charge violent demonstrators with a range of offenses, including sedition, a charge usually reserved for someone plotting to overthrow the government, according to a report Wednesday.
Story continues below advertisementCiting people familiar with the conversation, The Wall Street Journal reported Mr. Barr issued the instructions in a conference with U.S. attorneys across the country.
Also in the call, Mr. Barr warned that the violent protests across the country could get worse as the Election Day approaches, according to the report. Mr. Barr urged the prosecutors to consider a number of federal counts when lodging charges, including sedition, a rarely used law, the Journal reported.
Mr. Barr also urged prosecutors to file federal charges whenever possible, according to the report.
A Justice Department spokesperson did not return a request for comment.
So far, the Justice Department has filed federal charges against more than 200 defendants arrested during the rioting and looting that has spread across the country since the death of George Floyd, a Black man who died in the custody of the Minneapolis police.
However, the charges lodged are largely firearms violations, arson, and offenses related to failure to obey law enforcement.
Sedition is punishable by 20 years in prison
In order to score a conviction for sedition, prosecutors must prove that the defendant conspired to overthrow the government or harm government officials, including federal law enforcement. Simply advocating a government overthrow or injuring federal agents is protected as free speech under the First Amendment.
The last major sedition case in the United States is believed to have occurred in 2012. In that case, a federal judge in Michigan threw out the case against seven members of a U.S. Christian-based militia, ruling that prosecutors failed to prove that the defendants did more than talk about their hatred of the government.
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27 Comments
3 years ago
3 years ago
Those terrorizing the nation and its cities are terrorists; finally, A.G. Barr has ordered Federal Prosecutors to indict them with sedition. One suspects it is better late than never to enforce the Constitution upon those of BLM, ANTIFA, and every aspirant homegrown terrorist. For one, I wonder if it will come to pass; the DOJ is rife with enablers and supporters of these terrorist factions.
If they dig deeper into the bowels of this terror network, moreover, the faux-Democrats are the driving force behind this seditionist enterprise. Treason, corruption has grown exponentially within the Democrats, and the embedded enablers, operatives within all government agencies. I fear it is too late, but I hope that I am wrong.
The unhinging of this Constitutional Republic began under the two-term Obama presidency, perhaps earlier. Obama’s hands are connected, collaborating significantly to bring the nation to its knees.
3 years ago
Reply to
Ziggy46
“Simply advocating a government overthrow or injuring federal agents is protected as free speech under the First Amendment.”
UNTRUE! It is illegal to counsel anyone to break the law. This applies to public and private speech, Free speech laws DO NOT protect people who openly advocate law breaking, and there is an explicit law that it is illegal to overthrow the US government.
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18 U.S. Code § 373. Solicitation to commit a crime of violence
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373
“Whoever…. solicits, commands, induces, or otherwise endeavors to persuade such other person to engage in such conduct, shall be imprisoned…”
And there are several more laws like this one.
3 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules2
18 U.S. Code § 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385
“Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government … by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or…
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.”
3 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules2
More prisons, please. It is time to nail these a-holes. Once again, bang-on, thanks, DR.
3 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules2
I’m hanging in, DR, not literally. The mind is more fudge-like than porridge, that’s a good thing, so they say. I hope you are well, and vigilant with all the nihilism occurring these days. Let’s hope the powers that be do what they say they; then, there may be some hope. Take care, stay healthy and safe.
3 years ago
What about those who finance and support them?
Admittedly, I don’t believe any of these seditionists will (actually) be charged and prosecuted as such. He never has prosecuted those responsible for openly seeking a silent coup against the president. And (still) refuses to do so.
So, why should I believe him now?
Sorry, I don’t. Not for a single second.
Sound and fury signifying nothing.
3 years ago
I sure would like to see action for once behind his blowing hot air. I would think the nation would like to see the rule of law and Constitution be applied, again as in the past….am I wrong??
3 years ago
The money folks like Soros, Gates and the rest should be stood up in front of a wall and their assets confiscated and distributed to the communities affected by the riots..
3 years ago
Reply to
Kuffar
@Kuffar; After they were TRIED LEGALLY in a COMMON COURT of LAW —– I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!
3 years ago
Great idea!
NOW could YOU start doing YOUR JOB and indict and prosecute YOUR buddies like Mueller, Hillary, Biden, Comey, Wray, Page, Stryk etc.? Till I see you doing that, I can not take you seriously.
3 years ago
Progress.
3 years ago
To a Soros backed prosecutor that means charge Antifa victims who practice self defense.
3 years ago
IF we were to go by the “Black LIES Matter” statement that “Silence is VIOLENCE” can the Demon RAT leadership and the BLM leadership be charged with Sedition for NOT condemning the VIOLENCE happening that THEY have encouraged and supported in numerous cities across the USA ? ? ?
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IMO RICO Statutes should be applied to these low rent Bolshevik Nihlist mutts also..Sure looks like ORGANIZED CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES to me.
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Semper Fi
3 years ago
When is ‘ harming ‘ not the same thing as ‘ injuring ‘ ?
3 years ago
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3 years ago
Really. To Trump and Barr trashing a liquor store is now sedition. I suppose jaywalking will be next.
3 years ago
charge the prosecutor in Portland with sedition
3 years ago
“Simply advocating a government overthrow or injuring federal agents is protected as free speech under the First Amendment.” What RADICALIZED ULTRA-LEFT DemoKKKrat wrote this line in this Op-Ed? NO IT IS NOT LAWFUL TO HARM OTHER HUMAN BEINGS WHILE COMMITTING A CRIME!!!
This sounds like something that the BLACK LIvES (DON’T)MATTER Domestic Terrorists said recently.
THUGS who are WANTON to harm others MUST have the entire American SUPREME LAW of the LAND used against them in a COMMON COURT of LAW!!!!!!!!!!!
