The danger has long past, but the tyranny is just getting started.
Even faux-ci Fauci said masks were superfluous.
Fauci changes tune, now says second COVID-19 wave may never happen — and mask-wearing is symbolic
US airline passengers who figured face mask enforcements had more bark than bite could end up getting bit.
Major US airlines in Airlines for America, the carriers’ industry group, have announced they intended to more strictly enforce mask wearing aboard their planes, including potentially banning passengers who refuse to wear a mask.
The announcement comes in lieu of a federal regulation requiring all passengers to wear masks — the sort of enforceable measure that governs requirements to wear seatbelts and not smoke. (more)
How Strict Are Airlines About Face Masks in Flight?
With little direction from the feds and pressure to fill seats as safely as possible as coronavirus continues, U.S. carriers offer significantly different policies
By: The Wall Street Journal, June 17, 2020:
Airlines are coming face to face with a problem that may crimp the nascent rebound in travel: who wears a mask and who doesn’t.
Some airlines are trying to strictly enforce face coverings during flights. Others have given it cursory attention. As with the question of blocking middle seats—some carriers are doing it and some aren’t—the inconsistency worries passengers concerned about virus exposure in tight confines.
Todd Silver of Beverly Hills, Calif., found himself in a group stuck at the door to an airplane. “There was no social distancing. There was limited ventilation. People were just jammed in there. One or two had their masks pulled down below the chin,” he says. The crowd took under 10 minutes to disperse but it “seemed like forever,” Mr. Silver says.
Air travel is full of opportunities for coronavirus transmission. Touchless check-in, plexiglass shields, temperature checks, back-to-front boarding and planes with empty middle seats are all now part of the flying experience, and the future may bring even more changes. Illustration: Alex Kuzoian
American, United and Delta, which have been enforcing face-covering requirements at boarding and not in-flight, say they will get tougher starting this week. Each airline says passengers who refuse to wear masks in-flight without a valid reason may be restricted from future flights on the airline. The length of time on the no-fly list will be determined by the incident. JetBlue and Hawaiian already have a process in place to put noncompliant passengers on their own airline no-fly list.
A survey by consulting firm Oliver Wyman found 85% of travelers said cleanliness at airports and on airplanes would affect their decision to travel—as high a factor as ticket price. Masks are key to perceptions of airline cleanliness. Seeing unmasked passengers raises red flags for many travelers or would-be travelers.
“I’ve been doing consumer surveys a long time, and I’ve never seen another factor show up as important as price in impacting a purchase decision,” says Oliver Wyman partner Jessica Stansbury.
In Southwest’s own weekly surveying of customers, the three most important things to passengers onboard now are clean surfaces, clean air and masks, says Andrew Watterson, Southwest’s chief commercial officer.
Airlines have branded stepped-up cleaning procedures to showcase them. Delta even created a global cleanliness division within the company. Airlines are feeling their way through an unprecedented situation. “You can’t really see too far into the future on customer sentiment,” Mr. Watterson says.
Airlines are toughening rules this week because once on planes, some passengers have been removing masks and flight attendants have been told not to confront customers in the air over masks.
Photo: Sandy Huffaker/Getty ImagesWhile some state and local jurisdictions have imposed face-covering requirements trying to slow the spread of Covid-19, none apply to airlines, which are subject to federal regulation. And while the Transportation Department said last week it was distributing 86.8 million cloth coverings to airports for air passengers, it has issued no requirements that they be worn.
A DOT spokeswoman says the agency, which includes the Federal Aviation Administration, expects “the traveling public to follow airline crew directions and policies” and follow guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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Some passengers now see not wearing masks as a political statement; others simply go about it haphazardly, not covering noses and mouths.Some have figured out that airlines make exceptions for passengers with medical conditions. So, as with emotional-support dogs, passengers can declare their own medical inability to cover their faces and airlines can’t question them.
Jeff Moll of Orange County, Calif., has a newborn baby at home, so he suited up in a N95 respirator mask and construction goggles when he had to fly to Sacramento to see a client. “You’re just looking at everybody and you’re fearful,” he says.
Once in the air, quite a few people took masks off. “I was just hoping no one was sick,” Mr. Moll says.
Alex Lloyd of Memphis, Tenn., was on a recent flight when one passenger wasn’t wearing a mask and a nearby passenger asked him to put it on. “He put it on but yelled at the lady,” Mr. Lloyd says.
U.S. airlines, with the exception of Allegiant, all say they require passengers to wear masks during flights. (Allegiant strongly encourages but doesn’t require it.) You can take a mask off for eating and drinking.
At JetBlue, flight attendants are supposed to ask noncompliant passengers to put on their mask. If a passenger refuses, the seat number is radioed to the arrival airport and the offending passenger will be quizzed on the ground. If the passenger has no justification for this behavior, he or she will be placed on JetBlue’s no-fly list and banned from future flights. Hawaiian says it, too, will ban noncompliant passengers from future flights, but hasn’t had to do so yet.
The threat of a ban is probably enough to get passengers to comply in the air. So is removal. Chief Executive Barry Biffle says Frontier will divert flights and have noncompliant passengers removed.
Exposure danger doesn’t end with landing, by the way. No matter how hard airlines try, people crowd into the aisle to get off the plane, jamming themselves close to others.
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After 9/11, airline customers ceased to be passengers. They are now cargo.
Black Lives Matter is just another phony boondoggle that those Dems and Lefties have foisted off on us for six decades:
“Nuclear winter, peak oil, ozone hole, acid rain, return of the ice age, China syndrome, love canal, the population bomb, the limits to growth, silent spring, doom theories, killer bees, murder wasps, 20 foot sea level rise, ban the bomb, better red than dead, peace now, burn baby burn, smash the state, weathermen, Mao’s little red book, Viva Che, get whitey, black power, white patrimony, man-boy love, rape culture, BDSM, acid heads, speed freaks, crack heads, Jesus freaks, mushrooms, acid, STP, PCP, di-methyl triptamine, mescaline, ketamine, coke, crystal meth, Ecstasy, glue, honey oil, Thai stick, raves, choom rooms, crack houses, bongs, OD’s, love-ins, teach-ins, die-ins, sleep-ins, freak outs, and asteroid impacts…”
…and none of that was useful or valid, just a river of stupid ideas. And that’s the short list.
Racial Equality Matters And that’s it, that’s all, we’re done, end of story, no riots needed, just plain old hard work, erasing barriers, one by one.
Racial Equality Matters And that’s it, that’s all, we’re done, end of story, no riots needed, just plain old hard work, erasing barriers, one by one.
The only “barriers” that I am able to see … An applicant, of East Asian descent (even the half-breeds such as my chilluns) must score 480 points higher, on the SAT, to be considered at equal footing, for admission to Harvard, than and applicant of African descent. Those of European descent must score 432 points higher than an applicant of African descent.
That point variance does not place them at an advantage, that’s solely to put them on equal footing.
And, when Asian descent students brought suit, the judge ruled in favor of Harvard. Although, thanks to discovery, that actual practice did come to light.
So, if you’re an East Asian descent American that graduated from Harvard, you’re one smart sumbitch. If you’re an African descent American that graduated from Harvard …. .You’re as dumb as a box of rocks.
When will that barrier (and it ain’t just Harvard, that practice is WIDE SPREAD), that racial injustice be erased?
Affirmative action is a complete failure.
Affirmative action is a complete success …
… the damage done is the fruit of the policy.
There’s a cliche for that, but I’ve forgotten it.
Dan: “the damage done is the fruit of the policy” Yes, that’s an interesting way of phrasing it. My take on this is just that Democrats never understood social equality, and they are always corrupting it. They promoted slavery, and opposed women’s suffrage. In the 60’s and 70’s, anti-semitic Democrats established Jewish quotas in medical schools. Now, democratic socialists need shock troops, so they promote the minorities that will fight for them. They promote Muslims and blacks, while suppressing Asians and Jews.
As Thomas Sowell, the black economist points out, this backfires on blacks, because everyone figures out that they are socially inadequate. Black doctors graduate, but people go to Jewish and Asian doctors, because they are smarter and better. Etc.
Affirmative action may or may not have worked for a while, but now it is just institutionalized racism. Democrats like racial inequality. Every since they promoted slavery, Democrats have benefited from racial inequalities. But conservatives don’t like it, because it inevitably leads to social strife and suffering.
Quite true … you and yours have a wonderful weekend!
You reap what you sow.
😉
It’s systemic racism.
No Justice. No Peace.
If affirmative action was going to work, it would have worked by now, after decades of use. It did not establish racial equality. It did not fix the fundamental problems that cause racial inequality.
By basic definition, it FORCED racial inequality upon the nation. When an applicant is inferior, substantially inferior, yet gets moved the front of the line due to its race … How much RACIAL INEQUALITY can this nation stand?
No Justice. No Peace.
Exactly. And it is stupid to suppress Asians because they are smarter at some things. We should be figuring out why they are smarter, and then doing that too.
On college applications, I may speak from family experience, it even effects half-breed chilluns.
It’s disgusting. Big brains are a precious commodity, and it makes no sense to damage their opportunities.
Are you old enough to remember the old commercial, “A mind is a terrible thing to waste”?
Affirmative action failed when it comes to black population in America. Affirmative action succeeded when it comes to DNC power grab. Therefore, it works as intended.
I gave up on Ivy League schools some time ago. There are plenty of good schools in the world where kids can get good education without phony “social justice” indoctrination.
It’s not simply Ivy League institutions, even old, established State Land Grant universities do the very same thing.
It is institutionalized racism. Well established and firmly entrenched.
Racial Equality Matters And that’s it, that’s all, we’re done, end of story, no riots needed, just plain old hard work, erasing barriers, one by one.
Racial Equality Matters And that’s it, that’s all, we’re done, end of story, no riots needed, just plain old hard work, erasing barriers, one by one.
All store-bought hoaxes, from the same Acme Wil-E-Coyote uses.
Yes, none are valid or useful, just junk ideas, just fact pollution. As phony as a 3 dollar bill. And to make things worse, they recycle the same dumb ideas, year in and year out. How many times have we had this stupid statue thing come back?
Black Lives Matter is just another phony boondoggle that those Dems and Lefties have foisted off on us for six decades:
“Nuclear winter, peak oil, ozone hole, acid rain, return of the ice age, China syndrome, love canal, the population bomb, the limits to growth, silent spring, doom theories, killer bees, murder wasps, 20 foot sea level rise, ban the bomb, better red than dead, peace now, burn baby burn, smash the state, weathermen, Mao’s little red book, Viva Che, get whitey, black power, white patrimony, man-boy love, rape culture, BDSM, acid heads, speed freaks, crack heads, Jesus freaks, mushrooms, acid, STP, PCP, di-methyl triptamine, mescaline, ketamine, coke, crystal meth, Ecstasy, glue, honey oil, Thai stick, raves, choom rooms, crack houses, bongs, OD’s, love-ins, teach-ins, die-ins, sleep-ins, freak outs, and asteroid impacts…”
…and none of that was useful or valid, just a river of stupid ideas. And that’s the short list.
complete rubbish I mean your comment not the passengers
I well recall having to remove my shoes, not simply placing them on the conveyor belt, but taken aside and having white powder poured inside, every time that I have taken an international flight.
You, most assuredly, are not the sharpest machete in the shed.
Explain.
No matter how far I have to go I’d rather drive…sick of airlines and the TSA and I’m a pilot!!!!!
Don’t fly … it’s time to learn to use the internet.
Don’t fly. Don’t support submissions to tyranny.
Buy RV and travel the country without stopping at cities where democrooks are mayors.
Don’t fly – tell these crazy Democrat airlines and their neurotic passengers to go screw.
Don’t fly – tell these crazy Democrat airlines and their neurotic passengers to go screw.
Judeo-Christian Airlines, a Charter company, members only. Coming soon, to an airport near you.
Will every other seat be empty to accomodate one’s guardian angel?
great! now about that fat bastard blowing rum farts out his arse….in seat 72C, will the mask protect me from that?
I’m noncompliant,fo
The Transportation Dept. does not require masks to be worn. The CDC, despite what many hysterical people are saying, does not require masks. The threat of the virus has diminished. So….why are organizations like airlines now stepping up requirements for mask implementation.
Even Dr Jekyll Fauci is making statements about wearing a mask is now ‘symbolic’. I think its more about the tracking.
Bingo!
To step inside a Costco, a mask is required. Renewal time will not be met with a payment.
Crazy hysteria! The field of study called Bioethics must be destroyed before it destroys us all! If everyone refuses to comply what will the airlines do then! LOL!!!
Crazy hysteria! The field of study called Bioethics must be destroyed before it destroys us all! If everyone refuses to comply what will the airlines do then! LOL!!!
Just put yer mask on. Don’t be a WATB.
If this isn’t proof that masks are the ultimate symbol of tyranny and totalitarianism, of surrender and submission to same, of loss of individual liberty, well . . . what is? (Think of Cuomo’s dictatorial attitude.)
If this isn’t proof that masks are the historical equivalent of the yellow Star of David that Jews were forced to wear in public in 1930’s Germany, well . . . what is?
If this isn’t proof that non-mask wearers are now officially second-class citizens with no rights whatsoever, not unlike Blacks at the apex of Jim Crow segregation in the Deep South, well . . . what is?
To be sure, there are some professions where masks are a prerequisite. The medical and health-care fields as well as the construction industry, due to the nature of their work and inherent risks. But for “civilians” – definitely to eviscerate their dignity, humanity, individuality and identity – or as someone else put it, emasculate everybody.
I desperately need a haircut so wore a mask. It took maybe 15 minutes and I hope to never wear a mask again. It was hot under the mask, and I felt as though I was suffocating. I think I will do without further haircuts until this requirement is no longer in effect. I canceled my checkup doctors’ appointments rather than putting myself through that again.
Surgeons and nurses must have a really tough life then! grow up you whiny little kid
Oh the little bald-face liar (“no-fly list”) rears its ugly head, once again. The only time that I have seen a surgeon, wearing a mask”, was when it was in the OR. And, they’re paid for that “privilege”.
Not the sharpest machete, in the shed, are you?
For surgeons and nurses it makes sense. For “civilians,” it is all about forced subjugation, subservience and enslavement.
They also wear masks they can breath in and out easily and safely – N95 – Respirator Masks you SOB.
I am going to miss arriving drunk.
The return of the gentleman’s hip flask.
How convenient. I heard the Baptists were glad the coronavirus came along. Now they can wear their masks to the liquor store and no one will recognize them.
That’s the difference between us Methodists and other Protestants, we will at least speak to each other in the liquor store.
Lucky one has flights. Normal flight services in Australia still non existent. Only taking a few flights bringing back few people from different countries some with COVID-19.
They will allow in the Chinese Students and Chinese visitors yet ban Australians leaving the country. Money speaks, as they bring in more Communism.
Australia Travel: Why You May Not Visit (Or Leave) Before 2021
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tamarathiessen/2020/06/18/australia-travel-why-you-may-not-visit-before-2021/#5145e280384b
The Great Reset Plan Revealed: How COVID Ushers In The New World Order.
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/what-the-hell-is-the-great-reset/
THE 10-POINT PLAN BY ALICE BAILEY AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF CHRISTIANITY
The Lucis Trust’s publishing company was founded in the early 1920s as the Lucifer Publishing Company.[1] The Lucis Trust says that the name was probably chosen to honor Lucifer.[1
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucis_Trust
Saul Alinsky’s 12 Rules for Radicals
https://bolenreport.com/saul-alinskys-12-rules-radicals/
Hope they go out of business. I will not comply!
Hope they go out of business. I will not comply!
Pamela you are getting increasingly hysterical. They will not allow boarding as it is not use having a mask policy and not enforcing it. They will NOT put you on a NO FLY list
Not the sharpest machete, in the shed, are you?
It’s been highly publicized and, in the airlines own words, “no fly list” is used.
You will sing a different tune if YOU are on the receiving end of such open, blatant discrimination.
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winter is coming …
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I’m a flight attendant.
EVERY flight attendant I know does NOT support mandatory face coverings.
The unions are tools of the Democratic Party. It’s always been that way and it’s never been a secret.
We’re being held hostage by irrational fear mongers determined to ruin the airline industry.
It’s gut wrenching.
Wearing a face mask on flights makes sense. You are sitting with many other people in a confined space for hours, and all breathing the same air.
We need to know the airlines that don’t require face masks so we can give them our business. If you’re afraid of your shadow, stay home and continue hiding under your bed.