[ April 19, 2024 ]
Further proof lockdowns were not necessary. Safety measures? Yes. Lockdowns, no.
Related: SWEDEN RECORDS JUST 40 DEATHS AND FEWER THAN 400 NEW CASES IN A DAY
Less than six per cent of Sweden’s workforce had filed claims.
UK announces 449 more coronavirus deaths – the fewest for a fortnight as leading expert argues Britain’s crisis peaked BEFORE lockdown and claims fatality rate could be as low as 0.1%
- NHS England said a further 429 people have died in its hospitals – just 85 of those died yesterday, April 19
- Oxford University Professor Carl Heneghan said the UK’s outbreak peaked back in March
- He said data showed this but ministers had ‘lost sight’ of the scientific evidence and panicked about lockdown
- Professor Heneghan hailed Sweden for ‘holding its nerve’ – the country has stayed open for business as usual
- Sweden’s infection and death rates are so far lower than UK’s and its economy is stableBy Connor Boyd Health Reporter For Mailonline and Sam Blanchard Senior Health Reporter For Mailonline and Stephen Matthews Health Editor For Mailonline, 20 April 2020
The UK has today announced 449 more coronavirus deaths – the fewest for a fortnight – taking Britain’s total death toll to 16,509.
England declared 429 deaths and a further 20 were confirmed across Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. And 4,676 more people have tested positive for the virus, taking the total number of patients to 124,743.
The day’s death toll is a fall on the 596 fatalities announced yesterday, Sunday, and half as many as the day before that (888). It is the lowest number for a fortnight, since April 6 when 439 victims were confirmed.
Although the statistics are known to drop after a weekend, the sharp fall adds to evidence that the peak of the UK’s epidemic has blown over.
At today’s daily Government briefing, Chancellor Rishi Sunak said 17,971 people are still in hospital battling the coronavirus. Professor Dame Angela McLean, chief scientific adviser for the Ministry of Defence, said the number of people in hospital has now been falling in London for seven days in a row and that officials ‘looked forward’ to seeing the same trend play out in other regions across the country.
Mr Sunak said more than 140,000 companies had applied to the Government’s furlough scheme for grants to help cover the wages of more a million people, and he announced more money would be made available for early-stage businesses to help them set up during the economic turmoil.
It comes as a leading expert at the University of Oxford has argued the peak was actually about a month ago, a week before lockdown started on March 23, and that the draconian measures people are now living with were unnecessary.
Professor Carl Heneghan claims data shows infection rates halved after the Government launched a public information campaign on March 16 urging people to wash their hands and keep two metres (6’6″) away from others.
He said ministers ‘lost sight’ of the evidence and rushed into a nationwide quarantine six days later after being instructed by scientific advisers who he claims have been ‘consistently wrong’ during the crisis.
Professor Heneghan hailed Sweden – which has not enforced a lockdown despite fierce criticism – for ‘holding its nerve’ and avoiding a ‘doomsday scenario’. The country has recorded just 392 new patients and 40 deaths today, approximately 10 per cent of the UK’s figures. Britain’s diagnoses have not been announced yet.
In separate research, the Oxford professor said he estimates that the true death rate among people who catch the virus is between 0.1 and 0.36 per cent, considerably lower than the 13 per cent currently playing out in the UK.
In other coronavirus news:
- Prince Philip issued a statement saying: ‘I want to recognise the vital and urgent work being done by so many to tackle the pandemic’, thanking medical workers, scientists, key workers and volunteers;
- Experts have pointed out that areas with large Muslim populations are ‘conspicuously absent’ from the list of coronavirus hotspots, despite many being in at-risk inner city boroughs, suggesting their lifestyles may protect them from the virus;
- Doctors have hit out at the deputy chief medical officer for England, Dr Jenny Harries, for saying medical staff need to have a ‘more adult’ conversation about protective equipment, which the NHS is in short supply;
- Billionaire Richard Branson has warned his airline, Virgin Atlantic, will go bust without a Government bailout – but he has offered a private island in the Caribbean as collateral against a loan;
- Prime Minister Boris Johnson has reached out to Cabinet ministers from recovery to urge them not to loosen the UK’s lockdown, saying preventing a resurgence of the virus must be their number one priority;
- A symptom-tracking app run by King’s College London estimates that there are only around 460,000 people with an active symptomatic COVID-19 infection in the UK – down 75% from April 1.
NHS England confirmed this afternoon that a total of 14,829 people have now died in its hospitals and tested positive for COVID-19.
The patients whose deaths were announced today were aged between 40 and 101 years old, and 15 of them had no health problems before catching the virus. The youngest of those was 49.
Just 85 of the deaths recorded happened yesterday, on April 19. 210 of the people counted in today’s statistics succumbed to the virus on Saturday, April 18.
A total of 19,316 COVID-19 tests were carried out yesterday on 14,106 people – the Government is currently only about 20 per cent of the way towards its target of doing 100,000 tests per day by May 1.
Scientists are now in agreement that the peak of the UK’s epidemic seems to have been on April 8, when 803 people died.
Professor Sir David Spiegelhalter, from the University of Cambridge, said: ‘This clearly shows we are in a steadily, but rather slowly, improving position since the peak of deaths 12 days ago on April 8th.
‘But, judging from the experience in Italy, this could be a lengthy process.’
Professor Heneghan, who also works as a GP, told MailOnline: ‘The peak of deaths occurred on April 8, and if you understand that then you work backwards to find the peak of infections. That would be 21 days before then, right before the point of lockdown.’
He refers to a delay in the time it takes for an infected person to fall seriously ill and die – three weeks on average.
He claims that if the Government accepts that deaths peaked on April 8, then it must mean that infections were at their highest around three weeks prior.
Data shows the rate of Britons with upper respiratory tract infections dropped from 20 per 100,000 people on March 15 to around 12 per 100,000 just six days later.
The figures do not relate solely to coronavirus but may be a good indicator because so few people were being tested for the deadly infection.
Explaining the logic behind his claim, Professor Heneghan said: ‘The UK Government keeps saying it is using the best science.
‘But it appears to be losing sight of what’s actually going on. We’ve been getting scientific advice that is consistently wrong.
‘It has failed to look at all the data and understand when the peak of infections actually occurred.’
He added: ‘Fifty per cent reductions in infections occurred on March 16, right when hand washing and social distancing was introduced.
‘If you go look at what’s happening in Sweden, they are holding their nerve and they haven’t had doomsday scenario. Our Government has got it completely the wrong way around.’
In Sweden most schools, shops, pubs and restaurants remain open, with the Swedes advised rather than forced to adopt social distancing measures.
There have been 14,777 coronavirus cases in Sweden, giving it a per capita infections rate of 140 per 100,000 people. With a total of 1,580 deaths, the nation has a fatality rate of 15 per 100,000 people.
By comparison, the UK has suffered 120,067 cases and 16,060 deaths, meaning 182 people per 100,000 catch the virus and 24 per 100,000 die from it.
On top of much lower death and infections rates, the virus appears to be wreaking less havoc on its economy compared to the UK.
Less than six per cent of Sweden’s workforce had filed claims for unemployment benefits – wheres a quarter of Britons (1.4 million people) have applied for universal credit.
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42 Comments
3 years ago
No need for lockdown. wear a mask , maintain social distance when w/o mask of minimum 2 meters or more.
And go to work.
3 years ago
If you believe anything coming from across the ocean you’re probably not thinking clearly. The same countries have been telling us that the globe is on fire because we’re using the oil that we have and they don’t.
This sounds like propaganda to suggest that our efforts to reduce the body count were unnecessary, and also to set up idiots like bowling pins for round 2.This isn’t over. This mass murder by virus to scare us into voting by mail is an extension of the insanity and desperation we’ve seen since 2016.
3 years ago
The Chinese Wuhan CCP Coronavirus may not be a bio weapon; it could be just a bio engineered test bug that slipped out of the lab through sloppy handling because Chicoms are incompetent …
… but the Chicoms – like the Demokkkrats/Lefties/etc. – never let an opportunity go to waste
… no matter how “innocent” the origin of this virus
The Chicoms have weaponized their response to deflect blame and maximize damage to the West.
If the bug was an actual bioweapon, with an actual fatality rate of 3-4% as initially feared …
… the Western world would be defeated without firing a shot.
As it stands … we may still be defeated if we let the Lefties take advantage of this.
Even if we come out of this ‘okay’ – the Libtard N a z i s already want to roll out draconian police-state measures to prevent and/or control future “pandemics.”
This is a major threat – since our ability to trace the viruses gives these dishonest ‘fake’ scientists the ability to lay blame for each and every death in accordance with the transmission of the viruses.
Just sayin … it’s about the politics not the health and welfare of the people.
3 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
Agreed. I have maintained from the outset that it was a failed biological weapons experiment gone wrong. It was marvelously successful at killing people but soon got out of hand.
The only official statement made by any government that I believe is that North Korea has zero cases of the virus. Who the hell comes or goes from there? It’s the world’s largest prison camp with an electrified perimeter fence capable of electrocuting anyone who tries to breach it.
3 years ago
Reply to
Drew the Infidel
Soel reported 2 mths ago that Nth Korea had multiple deaths, + their army was in lockdown for a whole mth, till a wk ago, never happened before. They even admitted they had 1 death months ago, which I wrote down, later it “disappeared”. NEVER believe a word that comes outa NK.
3 years ago
Reply to
ned kelly
I surely as hayull don’t believe a word the comes out of the WHO and the CDC. Seriously, CDC “guidance” states to simply mark Covid-19 as cause of death, even if that individual was never tested to have been infected with the virus. Sounds as if I can trust what “comes outa NK” just as much as I can trust what comes “outa” CDC.
3 years ago
Reply to
ned kelly
I thought I read that anyone caught with it were to be shot (killed)!
3 years ago
Reply to
Drew the Infidel
Could be a product of a bio-weapon program … but it seems less-lethal than we would expect.
I think it was a test platform virus – because the virology labs do that all the time, and it’s become obvious they are ‘playing cowboy’ behind the curtain of secrecy where they’re all supposed to be ‘regulated.’
And it’s easy for me to think it was incompetence – having “trained” many Chinese Chicom engineers – those guys were ‘book smart’ – but they were arrogant, conceited, and not ‘grounded’ in principles such as “don’t blow anyone up” …
That said, there’s plenty of evidence that you could be totally right and this thing could be an ‘operation’ of the Chicoms from start to finish. A lot depends on getting someone we can trust to do the research on the virus itself and break down how it came together.
… Stay safe, and you and yours have a wonderful quarantine or early release!
3 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
How can deaths numbering in the hundreds of thousands be called “less lethal”? If nothing else it’ll sure “get the ball rolling”.
3 years ago
Reply to
Drew the Infidel
Understood … it is insensitive, but I spent years looking at health, safety, and environmental risk related data … and it’s a proportion based on ‘expectations’ of what a bio-weapon would do and why it would be deployed. It’s not intended to dismiss the absolute consequences.
The current data as we have it is consistent with a case fatality rate of a naturally occurring virus even if we presume the highest observed numbers – e.g. 12% in Italy. Indeed, lots of diseases have case fatality rates much higher than 12%. I saw somewhere that Sars-cov-1 maybe at 33%.
That said, Sars-cov-2 is a riskier disease if the case fatality rate is over 2%.
There is evidence the virus may have been engineered, which changes the culpability, but one would assume a bio weapon would have a few characteristics we do not see with the Chicom virus … e.g. …
1. Most people don’t have any symptoms.
2. Most fatalities are related to underlying conditions – i.e. comorbidity.
3. Young people of military age and physical condition are impaired – but only briefly and in an insignificant number for a weapon system.
3. A vaccine may be available if it’s a weapon – but coronaviruses are not a good idea if you’re going to use it as a weapon. If/when a vaccine is approved for Sars-cov-2 … I bet it will be little better than a flu shot … hopefully I’m wrong about that.
A rebuttal, of course, is in order: If, say, China wanted an economic ‘war’ or a ‘war’ of political advantage rather than a “military” type confrontation … a virus just sufficient to create panic and chaos would suffice … and the Chicom virus fits.
In that case, it could be a bio-weapon of less-lethal than a military weapon. The comparison is usually Anthrax; which has a respiratory fatality rate of 50+%. So 50+% is much greater than 12%, and greater still if the fatality rate of the Chicom virus is much lower.
That’s entirely possible, and it would be much more difficult to prove; which would be an advantage if economic and/or political advantage was the objective. So – we could be wrong and discover that Sars-cov-2 is a bio-weapon – but it’s still not the sort contemplated.
Anyway – it was offered as just a relative comparison for thought – and not a judgment or a justification for any particular action or inaction.
stay safe out there, Drew, and you and yours have a wonderful quarantine – or early release!
3 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
It is irrelevant whether the CCP Virus was deliberately created and released by the CCP or some type of industrial accident exploited by the CCP. The CCP has inflicted hundreds of trillions of damages on the economies of the world and it must now be eliminated and a regime installed which is trustworthy and will pay the reparations we all are entitled to receive. Instead of building a military machine or their Silk Road project they can use those funds to pay the damages they have inflicted.It may require a military action to force them to pay, but pay they must. We have discovered that the world can no longer tolerate the continued existence of this tyrannical, evil, murderous regime. It must be replaced and that must be the goal of all the nations of the world.
3 years ago
Reply to
John Acord
I’m all for going after China and getting what can be gotten. I am also in favor of going after Mexico, for the Mexican Swine Flu that killed, so far, more Americans than this chinese deal. Mexico weaponized their swine flu over ten years ago. First things first.
3 years ago
Reply to
John Acord
Excellent point … the damage is done, and the Chicoms should be held to strict liability …
… certainly any private organization in the West would be held to that standard
… and there would be calls for the same liability of any other government
So, you’re quite right.
I’m sure, though, if I were suing the Chicoms in an American court, I would bring up their malfeasance to encourage a favorable ruling/verdict and a much more favorable settlement.
… you and yours have a wonderful week in quarantine or early release!
3 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
Some countries are having a 12% death rate, most western countries are having a 2% death rate. Normal flu is .8% death rate. NZ sick rate dropped 90% 3 wks after lockdown started,
3 years ago
Reply to
ned kelly
And, the ROK, aside from closing public schools, never instituted a government mandated lockdown. Have you seen the low number of deaths, ever since they started treatment (around mid February) with quinine drugs, antibiotics, and zinc? But, NO lockdown for something that the media called “The Epicenter” a month to six weeks ago.
3 years ago
Reply to
ned kelly
The American death rate has skyrocketed to 5% …
… since we began assuming the UCOD – underlying cause of death – was the Chicom virus
… without even being sure the deceased had the Chicom virus.
… and we learned the diagnosis code is worth a significant windfall for the reporting hospital/institution.
As I’ve pointed out elsewhere, we cannot be certain what the infection rates, death rates, and the comorbidity rates are …
… until we normalize the data for a slew of factors we do not yet know.
The argument in question here … is that the highly contagious nature of the Chicom virus achieved sufficient levels of herd immunity that – combined with less-draconian ‘social-distancing’ measures (i.e. what we used to call hygiene)
… flattened the curve before the MORE draconian ‘lock down’ measures were put into place.
Which may or may not be true.
The fair rebuttal is that we still don’t know how well the NPI – nonpharmaceutical intervention – mitigation measures worked.
And the fair criticism of the rebuttal is that we don’t know that the police-state tactics are a necessary or necessary level of NPI – especially with a broad brush in every community.
It’s entirely plausible that the proper level of NPI was a lot less than ‘lock down’ in most communities in America AND ‘lock down’ was necessary in high density urban areas.
Consider my little town … we have a handy-capable bus service here … it is our only government subsidized public transit here – paid for by our secret defense contractor at the secret base located at the end of the huge line of commuters going to and from it ….
… even that bus service typically handles no more than 3 persons on an 18 passenger bus.
just an example, but the point is that our little town is always ‘social distancing’ …
The only major exceptions I know of … are churches, a handful of restaurants, and football games.
Shutting down our town would be over the top … but at the same time it’s perfectly sensible – and we’ve done it – to take steps to ‘social distance’ and so on – to prevent the spread of illness in the community. We don’t have any protests though – because most businesses are open on a ‘take out’ or ‘delivery’ or some other ‘non-contact’ method of service. The big stores are open, but have ‘social distance’ ques going into the store to lower the density.
What we have done in our town may not be enough in NYC or Dallas, but it’s more than sufficient for our little town – and our local case load shows it. We have only 30+cases and 2 deaths. The last death was the week before last.
3 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
Dan Knight: There is no doubt that the coronavirus is a biological weapon and it didn’t just “slip out” by accident. Get on the internet and do the research; the factual information is there.
3 years ago
More fake news. Total bollocks as they say. Britain’s COVID 19 cases did not peak before the lockdown happened, which was on March 16.
On March 16: 1543 cases; as of April 20: 125,856 cases. The peak looks like about April 11.
see: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases
3 years ago
Reply to
RCCA
I was skeptical of these results too. I just didn’t feel like researching it.
3 years ago
Let us not be delusional.
The Globalists have won with this virus-hunt:
They locked us down like animals,
They devastated economies in private ownership,
They printed trillions to own corporations,
They gave medical tyrants dictatorship,
Dictators now rule the dogmas of life;
We no longer free to harbour our beliefs,
Disbelievers will not be allowed to travel
Disbelievers will be denied medical funds
Disbelievers’ businesses will be prosecuted
Disbelievers’ children will be kidnapped
Woe betide those who fail to toe the line.
3 years ago
Reply to
Mr. Mojo Risin'
I would rather fight like hell before taking meds. Are you invested or employed in the medical-industrial complex?
3 years ago
Reply to
Rick Gouveia
Little mohoe is a PRETEND engineer that lives in the world of Make-Believe. Tell her to sit for her Professional Engineer exams, add the PE and become a REAL engineer.
3 years ago
Reply to
Rick Gouveia
The jury is still out. What concerns me is complacency. The longer people are denied their freedom to return to a normal life pessimism can take over. When you are “allowed” to return to work optimism returns as you settle back into a normal life. Fear mongering aids pessimism instead of the optimistic can do attitude.
3 years ago
Human behavior changed very little in the face of the lockdowns and social distancing. People still regarded each other as carriers of the bubonic plague and only communicated with others on social media whose prejudices matched their own.
Social distancing really works. I haven’t seen nor spoken to either of my ex-wives in decades.
3 years ago
Reply to
Achmed Mohandjob
Bingo! But they leave me alone, we all just walked away whistling.
3 years ago
In all the discussions and bogus statistics floating about concerning known cases and mortality rates, many are using those stats the way a drunk uses a lamppost, for support instead of illumination.
My wife’s uncle passed away late last week after enduring heart issues for the past five years. When taken to the emergency room, he was quickly wheeled into the coronavirus ward and tested but tested negative and taken back out. The hospital then told family members they didn’t trust the test they had administered, leading all to suspect the virus will find its way onto the death certificate as the cause.
3 years ago
Reply to
Drew the Infidel
Sorry to hear that, Our condolences to you and you wife. Take care.
3 years ago
Reply to
Drew the Infidel
My sincere condolences for your family’s loss. Sometimes an uncle is as close as a father.
As far as placing Covid-19, as cause of death, there exists some financial benefits for the hospital in doing so. I would assume (hopefully not incorrectly) that your uncle (yes, you don’t have to refer to them as “uncle-in-law”, they’re just “uncle”) is on Medicare. There’s quite the extra “spiff” fully paid to the hospital if that virus shows as the cause of death.
3 years ago
Those of us who have even an elemental knowledge of statistical analysis and projections have learned the maxim: Garbage In, Garbage Out. As more data keeps coming out, we can all see that any DOLLAR SPENT on paying mathematical modeling professionals would be put to BETTER USE buying ice for an Eskimo. These are the same jerks who projected the world would melt or freeze by the year 2010. They are dangerous, they are morons, and the Dog Fart Media laps it up and barks their insanities incessantly.
Closing down the economy like this WAS THE WORST reaction to a problem ever devised. One by one, all of these models, projecting the likely amount of casualties are failing. Countries, which practiced no distancing, like Sweden, are not going through collapse.
The lack of transparency out of China early on caused prime ministers and presidents in the west to work with PARTIAL or even FAKE information, and we ought to all REALIZE how UNPRODUCTIVE keeping secrets, in order to save face really, is.
The truth about the LOW LETHALITY levels of this disease has been available for weeks. This respiratory illness HITS the elderly and the already sick. For the young and the healthy, it is mostly ASYMPTOMATIC and certainly DOES NOT require shutting down the whole world.
In fact, apart from Italy, whose politicians have BEEN CHEATING the pubic treasury since the days of the ROMAN EMPIRE (which is probably the reason they have so few hospitals in a country with one of the highest CONCENTRATIONS of elderly on the planet), the rest of the countries are NOT DEALING with hospital overload. In New York City, whose HOSPITALS are 100% packed year-round, COVID-19 or not, this was a wake-up call.
If anything, the most human and generous thing a healthy person can do is to be out and about, where he can develop natural immunity and STOP THE SPREAD.
3 years ago
NZ sick rate dropped 2 weeks after lockdown started, by 90%. Today they had 5 more sick, 1 more death, only 13 dead total. LOCKDOWN has worked SO WELL NZ has added on 1 more week (after 4 wks) + then 3 wks of semi lockdown, some workers will be allowed back, mainly everything else remains the same as last 4 wks. NZ may even totally be rid of the virus at this rate. SWEDEN has 14,777 sick, 1580 DEAD, neighbouring countries DENMARK 7815 sick, 864 dead….NORWAY 7103 sick, 169 deaths, LOCKDOWN WORKS
3 years ago
Mslms sit home on the fat sofas, dont work/mingle, & avoid spreading virus.
3 years ago
Bravo ! Sweden
But the globalist destruction by the highly encouraged plague of
Muzzie-Virus 2010-2050 is killing far more than ‘socially acceptible.’
EVERY LAST RAPE and MURDER could’ve been prevented
3 years ago
If a country’s coronavirus crisis peaked (the number of infections were highest) before the lockdown, and decreased after the lockdown, that would suggest that the lockdown was effective, not “unnecessary”.
3 years ago
Unless we find a way to test every individual on the planet, we will never know precisely how many people have been affected by this virus. There was a report out of California many people (almost 50 times as many) already had antibodies in their system, and this virus passed them by without much notice. The truth is never going to be known. I ask myself why places like India have such large populations and massive overcrowding, not to mention pilgrimages to the Ganges, but still only relatively small numbers of CV cases? Do they have herd immunity? A comparison between India and parts of California can easily be made, and both have recorded low incidences of death compared to most of the world. Could the difference be climatic? Both places are the anthesis of cleanliness, but the people are thriving.
There is a saying that “What does not kill you makes you stronger.” There might be wisdom in that. Surviving one virus may give you some immunity to another, as in Cowpox to Smallpox.
