[ April 23, 2024 ]
Democrat-media complex don’t want a cure or en effective therapy, they want control. That’s why they have waged information war against hydroxychloroquine drug trial.
US doctors claim that Trump’s controversial hydroxychloroquine drug DOES help 91% of coronavirus patients and argue we should not wait for ‘controlled trials’
- The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons wrote a letter to Arizona Governor Doug Ducey urging wider use of hydroxychloroquine to treat covid
- They claim that data on 2,333 coronavirus patients reveals the drug helped 91% of patients recover
- Their data is mostly taken from observations of various doctors, many of whom – including Dr Oz – report treating only one or two patients
- Dr Anthony Fauci has advised caution in using hydroxychloroquine until clinical trials provide more data
- FDA issued a warning against using hydroxychloroquine outside hospitals due to its potential to cause heart arrhythmias in some patients
- Hydroxychloroquine has shown promise in labs and anecdotal reports, but a VA study found more patients treated with it died than those given standard care
- AAPS dismisses these results, arguing the veterans involved were very sick and their outcomes were not representative
The malaria drug hydroxychloroquine has improved the survival and recovery odds for about 90 percent of patients treated with the controversial medication, a physicians group claims.
Story continues below advertisementThe Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) presented data on 2,333 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine – including two supervised by Dr Oz – across the globe that shows 91.6 percent of those who got the drug fared better after treatment.
In a letter to Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, the group urged that doctors should not wait for results of gold standard tests of the drug to start using it in coronavirus patients and should instead base their use of it on reasonable interpretations of limited available data.
AAPS’s endorsement of the drug comes after a Veteran Affairs study of hydroxychloroquine found that those who took the drug were more likely to die, casting doubt over the potential treatment that President Trump has hailed a ‘game changer.’
The group of doctors dismissed those preliminary results, claiming that the 52 people who died were very sick, meaning their outcomes are ‘not indicative’ of hydroxychloroquine’s effects and that the drug would work better if used in patients with less critical illness.
The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons claimed in a letter to Arizona’s governor that hydroxychloroquine was more than 90% effective at treating more than 2,000 coronavirus patients – but their data is little more than a collection of anecdotal reports, including two patients treated by Dr Oz, and one report on a former NFL player
AAPS, which opposes what it refers to as healthcare ‘reform,’ including Medicare for All proposals, presents ‘information from some larger patient groups, alongside reports on single patients.
‘Waiting for fixed randomized controlled trials during a pandemic when time is of the essence, a Bayesian approach to the assessment of diagnostic and therapeutic probabilities is wise and efficient and will save time, money and lives if the physicians are given a chance to retain their autonomy and practice medicine to the best of their abilities,’ the group writes.
The Bayesian method, referred to multiple times throughout their letter is a statistical approach in which probabilities are assessed on a rolling basis, and a reasonable expectation is inferred based on the data at-hand.
In other words, the group says doctors shouldn’t wait for a large body of data to draw conclusions about whether or not hydroxychloroquine works and is safe, but assume that it is based on databases like theirs, which it says is regularly updated.
President Trump has referred to hydroxychloroquine as a ‘game changer,’ despite the insistence of top scientists like Dr Anthony Fauci that we don’t yet know if it’s effective
It echoes sentiments expressed by the president: ‘What do you have to lose?’ he asked of coronavirus patients while extolling the promise of hydroxychloroquine during a recent press briefing.
‘I’m not looking at it one way or another. But we want to get out of this. If it does work, it would be a shame if we didn’t do it early.
‘What do I know? I’m not a doctor, but I have common sense. The FDA feels good about it, as you know they approved it.’
The FDA gave emergency use authorization for doctors to prescribe hydroxychloroquine to some coronavirus patients, as much as a way to facilitate data collection on how people with the virus tolerate the drug as because it showed promise for helping them.
Regulators did not approve the drug for treating coronavirus, a point that Dr Anthony Fauci, a leading US expert on infectious diseases and coronavirus task force member jumped to underscore.
When asked if there was evidence that hydroxychloroquine works to treat coronavirus, Dr Fauci said: ‘No. The answer is no,’ citing the absence of clinical trials for the drug, and reminding viewers that reports of its use for coronavirus patients were merely anecdotal.
Much of the ‘clinical information’ cited in the AAPS letter falls definitively into the anecdotal category.
Their table includes reports from China, France, South Korea, Algeria, and the US, as well as references to the prophylactic use of hydroxychloroquine to protect health care workers in countries like Turkey and India.
Doctors with the AAPS argue that physicians shouldn’t wait for the results of gold standard trials to try treating coronavirus patients with hydroxychloroquine, but the group does not include any possible side effects reporting in their database on the drug’s effectiveness
Some of the reports in the table are relatively large trials, such as Dr Vladmir Zelenko’s treatment of 405 out of 1,345 coronavirus patients in New York with hydroxychloroquine, and even the Veteran Affairs study of more than 200 patients.
But most of the data comes from small or one-off uses of the drug. Several rows in the table report no information beyond the name of the doctor involved, a number involve just one patient.
Dr Oz reported that 100 percent of the patients he treated with hydroxychloroquine improved and survived. There were two patients.
One of the people included in the table of data is Mark Campbell, a former tight end for the Buffalo Bills who was hospitalized for coronavirus.
There is no treating physician listed for Campbell, but the success rate of the one-person trial of hydroxychloroquine in him is listed as 100 percent.
Campbell has spoken openly about his experience with coronavirus, including receiving several days of treatment with Plaquenil, the brandname form of hydroxychloroquine, while at the hospital under doctor supervision.
Among the datasets was TV physician Dr Mehmet Oz’s treatment of two patients with hydroxychloroquine
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41 Comments
3 years ago
“…but a VA study found more patients treated with it died than those given standard care.” Was that study funded by the Clinton Founadaton or by China? Right. And one of the warnings on aspirin bottles is you may get a headache. Sure, some seriously ill on ventilators will still die, no matter what. When a flu shot is available, people will STILL DIE of this disease. What a bunch of goofballs!
3 years ago
Reply to
gfmucci .
If you read the VA study and look at the statistics, you quickly realize the study deeply flawed and bogus (no matter how many ophthalmologists took part). In the VA study, the average age was almost 70 years, 67% had diabetes, many had congestive heart failure, many had vascular disease, cancer, etc., and there was not much info for dosage and how the drug was administered. But is was clear the drug was being given primarily as a last resort.
This study is not much better. But one interesting fact is that 70% of the deaths come from the VA study which was included. This indicates that the VA study is an outlier and that something else was going on. Probably it was the fact that most of the patients already were on borrowed time before they got the disease. It could also indicate that problems at the VA still exist.
3 years ago
Reply to
Naram-Sin
Wasn’t that the one done by Ophthalmologists , eye doctors?
I read about that too.
3 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
Yes, there were a number of Ophthalmologists, which is why I mentioned them. However, to be fair, Ophthalmologists have a good deal of medical training, certainly enough to look at the information others had recorded and compile it. Actually, almost anyone could have done the VA study, but doctors should have realized that what they were looking at didn’t actually show what they claimed.
3 years ago
Reply to
Naram-Sin
An ophthalmologists is either a medical doctor or a doctor of osteopathy, specializing in eyes treatments/surgery. With NO further training that a general practitioner.
Not exactly qualified for any clinical trials, or research, outside of eye drops.
3 years ago
Reply to
Achmed Mohandjob
Except the VA was not a clinical trial. They just got hold of some medical records from the VA and then reported that old people with serious medical conditions died, and blamed it on HCQ. Just about anyone is qualified to do that and they still muffed it up.
3 years ago
Reply to
Naram-Sin
LOL! No it’s not a speciality of a EYE DOCTOR and you couldn’t even call what they produced a “study”. Why not have a proctologist do a partisan study on the virus? LOL! NO excuses for them when we have experts that specialize in that, can do a proper study and NO not ALL DOCTORS ARE EQUAL. Let’s be honest. about it and not denigrate other decent doctors. I wouldn’t want a brain surgeon doing heart surgery on me and coming up with a partisan “study” looking for face time on the news. Geesh!
3 years ago
Reply to
gfmucci .
That “study” was conducted by ophthalmologists with no clinical experience. Yes, forkin’ eye doctors with NO clinical experience.
3 years ago
Come on…quit throwing facts and truth out into the mix. They make the ignorant libturd’s tiny brain cell explode!!!!
3 years ago
Not much chance of this being featured on Al-Jabeeba.
3 years ago
I think (I’m guessing) the hydroxychloroquine treatment was discovered by accident where the virus was being tested on humans. The people who released this virus for political gain (to take the WH through voting by mail) always knew about the effective treatment for it… and that would explain a lot.
3 years ago
Reply to
spfoam1
nope, just search for worldmap of china virus and world map of malaria – they fit like a glove
3 years ago
Reply to
Halal Bacon
I posted a world map of malaria not long ago…. and I specifically pointed out China, and North and South Korea.
Who do you think I was suggesting may have tested the virus on humans?
Why do you think I suggested that someone may have stumbled onto a treatment for this virus in a part of the world where people take hydroxychloroquine for malaria?
3 years ago
Reply to
spfoam1
No. nobody stumbled upon the use of HCQ with zinc. Until Dr Zelenko near NYC used it based on his understanding of how the drug and zinc works.
he did smart work and others were buffons treating symptoms . And media running anti-HCQ are Big pharma crook brigade as Billions of revenue would be lost if HCQ is used as cure !
Got it ?
3 years ago
Reply to
Suresh
First of all, I didn’t say a thing about zinc, you pulled that out of your backside.
Second, I didn’t say anything about what any doctor here did or didn’t do, so you pulled that out of your backside as well.
You are missing, or distracting from a point I am making. You’re sooooo smart, I’m sure you’ll figure it out.
3 years ago
Reply to
Suresh
Post a stand alone comment on your observations.
You’re assuming the doctor you refer to is the first doctor to understand how hydrochloroquine and zinc work together. How do you know that?
Do you think the people who released this virus would run their mouths about an effective treatment?
3 years ago
Reply to
spfoam1
The doctor who found the cure is not the one who released it ! They live in different countries ! LOL !
3 years ago
Reply to
spfoam1
No, he didn’t.
Most of the effective treatment using Hydrochloroquine or its derivatives has used Zinc in combination .
The Hcq breaks through the fatty lipid outer layer of the virus and the Zinc causes the replication mechanism to disassemble.
Which you would know if you had actually read any of the reports [even the summaries] of this treatments effects.
3 years ago
Reply to
Public_Citizen
You assume I didn’t read anything…. you lecture as an accusation.
I understand what the studies said. You don’t understand why I posted my original comment.
3 years ago
Reply to
spfoam1
It was investigated early on because of the similarity to the SARS Virus outbreak earlier this century.
It was noted that SARS seemed to respond to a Hydrochloroquine based Therapy and somebody remembered it and tried it on their C19 patients.
3 years ago
Reply to
Public_Citizen
There’s a link in a Q drop with a list of studies involving hydroxychloroquine as far back as 2005….
Why do you supposed I posted what I did?
3 years ago
not good enough, libtards demand 200%
3 years ago
Media is to blame for certain deaths; and government officials who make it difficult to take this drug.
they have blood on their hands.
3 years ago
There is a cure.
Trump is right.
Democrats don’t want a cure. They want Kaos and Death.
That suits Lucifer……
3 years ago
Why did I have to click on 16 fire hydrants to up-vote a comment?
3 years ago
Chris Cuomo and CNN: “What do we now, big brother?”
Andrew Cuomo: “don’t worry, I’ll take care of it…”
3 years ago
Trump is vindicated again!
Of course, DEMS want DEAD PEOPLE rather than give Trump a victory. This is how derranged and down right evil, DEMS have become. With any illness, there is alway a point where there is nothing further you can do but give them TLC and make them comfortable. If they get this drug in time, that could be avoided if there are no other medical problems.
3 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
“DEMS have become”? Not “have become”. Left Wingnut Regressives (Democrat Party members) have ALWAYS been that way.
3 years ago
On Yahoo Finance, the trolls came out in force to mock the AAPS as a “right-wing, anti-science” organization. Left-wing is OK, I guess. Being pro-science means denying the evidence in front of you in favor of a theory by an “expert”.
For the record: I have a Ph.D. in one STEM field and a M.S. in another STEM field. I think very little of “experts”.
3 years ago
Interestingly, The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons is the scourge of the many other physician organizations that are lefty to outright socialist leaning. For example, the AMA has championed ovomitcare and now so-called medicare for all.
The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association founded in 1943. It is opposed to the Affordable Care Act and other forms of universal health insurance.
3 years ago
Reply to
JD
AAPS is the anti-AMA.
https://aapsonline.org/aaps-news-may-2020-virus-and-resistance/
3 years ago
The media and government official have killed more than half of our Cov 19 casualties.
3 years ago
Fauci Lies and people die. He authorized 3.7 million dollar payment to the Wuhan lab to research this virus.
3 years ago
Reply to
Robert Ta
Fauci plays dumb promoting the propaganda that SARS-CoV-2 is a virus that came about via natural evolution in the wild animal population that then transferred to humans. But he knows that a similar “evolution” can be accomplished in the lab using test animals via “Gain of Function.” Now that it is out in the open that the virus likely leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology which received NIH Grant money via an intermediary, EcoHealth Alliance, for CCP Coronavirus (Bioweapon) research, wouldn’t you know that NIH is now trying to cover its tracks by “investigating” EcoHealth?
But of course, Fauci… “knows nothing.” 
https://www.newsmax.com/us/nih-coronavirus-wuhanlab/2020/04/27/id/964940/?utm_source=vuukle&utm_medium=TalkOfTown#commentID-100118449
3 years ago
If you investigate the details of the VA “study” you will find that it was rigged to fail from the start.
The demographic was chiefly the high risk age group, with already existing complications, and the study was done mostly by Ophthalmologists. This was well outside their specialization and any training they possess above their General Practitioner training.
The safe dosages and side effects of this drug have been known for literally decades as it has been in use since the end of WWII and the “off label” usage for Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis has been ongoing and well documented in the Medical Journals, also for several decades.
The VA administered dosages above the known safe levels and reported the sorts of “side effects” that have long been known to occur in overdose situations. What a surprise [not]. Then they reported the treatment as “dangerous”.
Well, yes, the use of ~any~ drug at above safe levels of dosage are likely to produce similar results.
I can kill you with DiHydrogen Monoxide if improperly administered.
[For those who don’t get the joke, that’s water, and if I pour it over your face in a steady stream for long enough it will cause you to drown]
3 years ago
While Fauci poo-poohed HCQ, he would have been aware of the in vitro anti-viral effect of Chloroquine against SARS-CoV-1 (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome-Coronavirus) in 2005. HCQ has less side effects compared to Chloroquine.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/
In 2013, Fauci promoted 2 anti-viral drugs, ribavirin and interferon-alpha 2b, for MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome which is a conavirus) based only on in vitro anti-viral effect.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/18/scientists-develop-possible-treatment-for-new-sars-like-virus/2091443/
Now Fauci is giddy as a school girl reporting on ‘promising’ early results of modest improvement of recovery times with Remdesivir clinical trials and, maybe it could have a greater benefit if given earlier in the course of the disease (ditto for HCQ, ditto for ANY treatment for an infection). Gilead’s drug has been used for SARS, MERS, Ebola and other viral infections…but fortunately for Gilead SARS-CoV-2 is a gold mine depending on how they price it and Fauci is their cheerleader. Remdesivir is given IV 200mg first day than IV 100 mg IV for 10 days; it causes an increase of liver enzymes, N&V—so more suited for inpatient treatment or Visiting Nurse home IV treatment which increases the overall cost of this therapy.
I’m waiting with bated breath for the double-blind randomized controlled clinical trials per Dr. Fauci’s Good House Keeping Seal of Approval for HCQ w/ or w/o Azithromycin against SARS-CoV-2.
