Showdown Brews As U.N. Court Targets U.S. GIs

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Breathtaking. A catastrophic move in a long history of UN failures. It is long past time we withdraw our considerable financial support of this corrupt institution. The alternative? How can democracies and dictatorships co-exist in a world body successfully? They can’t. And so immediately the organization was destined to fail. And it has. Spectacularly. The UN charter is a big lie, and things built on big lies tend to work to extremely damaging effects.

UN expert Claudia Rosett said, “The UN is ‘power with law.'” It operates outside the law. The law of its own recipe ……brought us Animal Farm.

Showdown Brews As U.N. Court Targets U.S. GIs

By Benny Avni, Special to the Sun | March 6, 2020

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An international prosecutor, Fatou Bensuda, was advised Thursday by a panel at Hague that she should go ahead and investigate alleged war crimes committed by Americans in Afghanistan. It’s a shocking development.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo called the International Criminal Court panel’s ruling “a truly breathtaking action by an unaccountable political institution masquerading as a legal body.” It is, but what to do?

In a little noticed address to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee last week, Senator Ted Cruz urged an American push at the United Nations Security Council to ban ICC investigations against Israelis, Americans, or citizens of any other non-member of the Hague-based court.

According to the Rome Statute, which governs the ICC — a global trial venue for war crimes and crimes against humanity — it has no jurisdiction over countries that have not joined its 123 member states. So non-members like America, Israel, China, Russia, and India are off limit. Or are they?

When the court started functioning in 2002, I made a bet with a friend, an avid universal jurisdiction supporter, that despite non-membership, Americans and Israelis would early on end up in the dock. I lost that bet, but only because I thought such ICC prosecutions would be launched right off the bat.

In the early days, the court went after alleged war criminals in places like Darfur, Congo, Burundi, and the Central African Republic. A few years ago, however, several African countries contended there’s a racist pattern against their continent and threatened to renounce their ICC membership. Political pressures grew on Ms. Bensouda, the Gambian-born ICC prosecutor, to land more visible non-African fish.

With that, a loophole was found to allow prosecution of Americans. In November 2017, Ms. Bensouda asked an ICC appeal panel to investigate cases against American military and CIA personnel over alleged war crimes in Afghanistan, which is an ICC member. Last year the panel rejected the request. What happened Thursday is that an appeals panel reversed the decision.

The new gusto to try Americans in Afghanistan looked a bit awkward at the exact moment the Trump administration pushes to end our presence in Afghanistan. The Afghan government opposes the ICC move but the court and its supporters in the West are delighted.

It’s not just Afghanistan. In 2015, Palestine, a UN “observer state” that is unrecognized by America and others, joined the ICC as a full-fledged member, and immediately pushed to try crimes allegedly committed by Israeli soldiers in the territory of its “state under occupation.” Last December, Ms. Bensouda asked the ICC appeals panel to open an investigation against Israelis combating terrorists in Gaza. That case is pending.

“I’d like to see an effort at the UN Security Council to prevent the International Criminal Court from moving against any nation state that is not a member,” Mr. Cruz told the American Israel Public Affairs Committee last week. Such a move, he said, “would protect Israel, and it would protect the United States from our enemies using the ICC to try to target our citizens and our soldiers for persecution.”

It could prove difficult, but not undoable. The much-cited concept of international law is based on agreed treaties and binding Security Council decisions. The 15 member council itself can be a wild card. Nine supporters must be gathered to pass a resolution. America’s habitual veto-wielding opponents, China and Russia, may in this case side with a resolution that would exempt them from the the Hague’s reach.

Hard to say at the moment. Most European members, though, are avid ICC supporters. America has leverage to pressure council members and, beyond Turtle Bay, Washington can use America’s global clout to press countries that have initially cheered the formation of the ICC (or at least thought joining would make them look good) to now drop out.

Following the post-WWII lustration at Nuremberg, war crimes and crimes against humanity were tried in international tribunals dedicated to specific cases, as in Rwanda and Bosnia. The formation of the ICC meant to replace such ad-hoc venues with a permanent, global body. What’s coming to a head is a showdown over that mistake.
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ebyjeeby
ebyjeeby
4 years ago

USA out of UN NOW! Move the UN HQ out of NYC.

Rusty
Rusty
4 years ago
Reply to  ebyjeeby

This was another gift from the Democrats. Who led the U.S. delegation to the founding in San Francisco? Ever heard of Lager Hiss? Anyone think FDR was not a Marxist has not been really looking. The Rockefellers that gave $7 million to by the land had been given military secrets to the Nazis as well. The FDR administration was full of Communists like Harry Dexter White, who probably is the one that transferred the Atomic Bomb to the Russians. Don’t take my word, read “From Major’s Jordan’s Diaries” https://tinyurl.com/wxcajz3
Add to that Clinton Roosevelt’s book, the probable template for the Communist Manifesto.

caliroxanne
caliroxanne
4 years ago
Reply to  Rusty

Be that as it may, politicians of both parties seem equally unwilling to end our involvement in this vile organization.

Keith1941
Keith1941
4 years ago
Reply to  Rusty

It’s Alger Hiss, I do that quite often at my age, but you’re absolutely correct. When the Soviet Union fell, the Verona papers exposed all of this. Of course, it won’t be mentioned since it proves what you are saying to be correct. And we can’t have academia teaching the truth…I mean how can they support people like Bernie? Nixon was hated much because he exposed this as a Congressman. Yeah…get out of the UN…move it out of America, and don’t let the doorknob hit them in the butt on the way out. Do it soon while we old folks, who are still alive, know just how corrupt the left is…along with the Rinos like Mitt Romney…even the Bush’s.

caliroxanne
caliroxanne
4 years ago
Reply to  ebyjeeby

Yes to the USA out of the UN!!! Trump talks of the world laughing at us and bad deals, well the UN is the worst!

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago
Reply to  caliroxanne

Trump may have found a way to changing NATO and UN importance. Trump is doing something interesting. He wants Brazil to join NATO (North American Treaty Organization). Of course Brazil doesn’t fit that old grouping and the old purpose of NATO doesn’t exist anymore and that is the whoel purpose of it. Trump could redefine NATO, plus have the U.N. be less relevant.

Daddyo
Daddyo
4 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Along with the change that you cite, it`s more than time to kick Turkey out of NATO!

caliroxanne
caliroxanne
4 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Would be nice, but I won’t hold my breath. A full withdrawal, rather than tweaks here and there, is what is necessary.

Christopher Logan
Christopher Logan
4 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Turkey needs to be expelled from NATO and never allowed into the EU. #Trojan horse

caliroxanne
caliroxanne
4 years ago

Thanks, Chris!

Support this guy! He gets it!!!

loganswarning.com

Suresh
Suresh
4 years ago
Reply to  caliroxanne

Agreee. UN Supports Jihadi Invasion and Islamic Takeover of Non-Muslim Lands

And rejects Trump’s choice For daring to speak the Truth About it to head UN’s International Organization for Migration http://offtrade.net/cnmnews/un-supports-jihadi-invasion/

why fund them ?

danE DanE
danE DanE
4 years ago
Reply to  caliroxanne

MR. PRESIDENT: PARDON Michael New and give him back ALL of his military dignity! HE WAS RIGHT NOT TO SERVE THE IN THE UN! Please EVERYONE support this and write the POTUS! And FULL PARDON TO LT. COL. LAKIN!!!

sodacrackers2
sodacrackers2
4 years ago
Reply to  ebyjeeby

Move it out of the USA.

danE DanE
danE DanE
4 years ago
Reply to  ebyjeeby

MR. PRESIDENT: PARDON Michael New and give him back ALL of his military dignity! HE WAS RIGHT NOT TO SERVE THE IN THE UN! Please EVERYONE support this and write the POTUS! And FULL PARDON TO LT. COL. LAKIN!

Thurston Howell III
Thurston Howell III
4 years ago
Reply to  ebyjeeby

No more free rides for these snowflakes.

OUT NOW!

bobbycdot
bobbycdot
4 years ago

“An international prosecutor” ???
what is that?

TomSJr
TomSJr
4 years ago
Reply to  bobbycdot

Since the ‘WORLD’ has no UNIFIED law system, it operates on what the INTERNATIONAL PROSECUTOR suggests or chooses and therefore is BIASED, at least that is the consensus or goal. You cannot have different laws for each country and then expect an INTERNATIONAL PROSECUTOR to rule. That country will never accept the outcome/verdict if it does not meet WHAT THEY WANT. Every country is biased, even America because its people only know THAT LAW of their land. Unless every country lives under A ONE-WORLD GOVERNMENT AND THEIR LAWS, IT WILL NEVER SUCCEED. This is why the Book of Revelation states that soon, the world WILL BE under a one-world government. Right now, it is not, but I will predict that AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP LEAVES OFFICE, THAT IS WHAT THE ‘WORLD’ POWERS WILL WANT AND THEY WILL GET IT, no matter what you and I say because WE WILL HAVE NO POWER BY THEN.

Of course, I will be gone by then as I am a follower of Christ, filled with the Holy Spirit and will therefore be taken from this world that is controlled by Satan. But, nevertheless, the Bible has been dead on in its predictions throughout the ages and this ONE-WORLD GOVERNMENT AND ITS SUPREME RULER, THE ANTICHRIST, a demonically-controlled man who will first rule, with compassion, but then rule with an IRON FIST AGAINST RIGHTEOUSNESS, is coming to pass faster than people can imagine! The antichrist is already on earth but has yet to be revealed.

famouswolf
famouswolf
4 years ago
Reply to  TomSJr

I doubt it. Seriously.
There isn’t a mystical fail safe that will get us out of what we get into. We get it right or we get extinct.
That is our reality, and it’s not a good prognosis albeit not entirely hopeless.
Religion can make you feel good about things, but it won’t save anyone or anything. We’re responsible for that.

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago
Reply to  famouswolf

How do you view life after death or for you is there nothing after death?

mtman2
mtman2
4 years ago
Reply to  famouswolf

You are very “seriously” mistaken in your indoctrinated premise.
In thinking our Founding Peoples and Framers of OUR 3-Founding documents were as thoughtless and naive as you have been duped into believing….

However somehow your very “educators” are wiser and can “do it better” ?

Socialist Marxism is truly our antithesus in Judeo-Christian Principles as our the enemy and has infiltrated our Ivy League University’s[all begun by Cristian Churches] + the once Biblical Seminary’s – starting after our uncivil War from and thru Europe’s speculative theory’s from Marxismi – Darwinian + the Freudian replacement frauds.

Gifting America with traitorous “offspring” – like Woodrow Wilson and John Dewey who later redirected our Constitutional monetary and educational systems sequentially to then be open to the George Bernard Shaw’s type of thinking.

This began the breakdown of our strong Christian and Scripturally grounded roots WE are Founded on that yielded God given Natural Rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness along with the RIGHT to defend and protect such things as are sacred to our core values….paid in blood + lives to gift us with and the same to “keep it”.

Starting 270yrs ago with the 7 Yrs War with France for the continent as written by James Fenimore Cooper in –
“THE LAST of the MOHICANS” depicted in film half a dozen times since 1910.
The last one in 1992 with Daniel Day Lewis as Hawkeye – Madeline as Cora Lehman + Russell Means(true Native) as Gingachook beginning our fight with Europe for our freedoms yet to be won the British Empire th I they were even then all owned by the Globalist bankster “money changers” for centuries.

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago
Reply to  TomSJr
caliroxanne
caliroxanne
4 years ago
Reply to  bobbycdot

It involves the UN. Do you really need to ask? It’s some 3rd world piece of garbage with a “smart” sounding accent backed by Europe and paid for by the US. Trump must pull us out of the UN and immediately cease ALL funding both direct and indirect!!!

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago
Reply to  bobbycdot

A corrupt globalist trying to get us to submit control to them and their agenda rather than our agenda.

Name
Name
4 years ago

The so-called ICC is itself a criminal organization in concert with that other criminal institution, the UN. They are trying to get at Israel and Israel has essentially given them the finger. Total farce run by third world criminals trying to appear legitimate.

Ziggy46
Ziggy46
4 years ago
Reply to  Name

Amen!

mtman2
mtman2
4 years ago
Reply to  Name

“The Deep-State” federal so called agencies + lower *courts’ are unelected, unConstitutional and unaccountable constructs+*setups` of Globalist catalyst’s for the UN Agenda 21+ 2030 Progams + Protocol – for THEE one world system under its auspices for their planned borderless NWO…..as is prophesied in both New + Old Testament.

For it’s the Christian West that has held them back.
Specifically America and particularly the pro-American habit of “WE the People” believing in OUR Founding + Framers = while “clinging to our Bibles and guns” – being God given unalienable Natural Rights.

THIS ALL REALLY STICKS N THEIR CRAW’S = that WE believe in keeping our “freedoms under Liberty” as 1st given and then kept by loss of blood and lives now for 270yrs = esp starting with the 7yrs War with France to take the Continent as seen in the story of “The Last of the Mohicans” – by James Fenimore Cooper;

– and the various films of it particularly the the film in 1992 w/Daniel Day Lewis as Hawkeye + Madeline Stowe as Cora Munro and Russel Means as Gingachguch the true hero who raised Hawkeye as his own tho sent to be schooled by the English to learn of the coming world’s ways…

Ziggy46
Ziggy46
4 years ago

The so-called UN’s Court would be a kangaroo court or camel court, an egregious attempt to sleight the reputation and lives of our courageous military. It comes as no surprise, as the UN is a front for terrorism, The enemies our troops face follow no International Laws, they are barbarian terrorists out to kill Americans or civilians by any means. Our troops’ hands are tied by Rules of Engagement, as not to kill someone not bearing a weapon. The UN should be dismantled and shipped to some nation, Iran, N Korea, China, as it is they whom the UN advocates.

tituspullo
tituspullo
4 years ago

the UN was a dumb idea of truman’s after WW2, pretending that we had eliminated evil and all nations would just get along. it was weaponized against america and Christian culture from day one. trump needs to get US out of the UN, as the john birch billboards used to say in the 1960’s, and tell them to put their stupid building in someone else’s country

Daddyo
Daddyo
4 years ago
Reply to  tituspullo

The U.N. is a re constitution of the League of Nations, which was founded after WW1, the so called “war to end all wars”. Interestingly, as part of the U.N.`s charter, acts that were passed by the League of Nations were incorporated into it. One of these acts (I believe #80), granted a great deal of land for the renaissance of the nation of Israel. This land was to be comprised of all of biblical Israel (current day Israel, Judea, Samaria, all of Jordan, the Golan and Gaza), but, thanks to the collusion between Perfidious Albion (Great Britain) and France, the aforementioned didn`t happen. Instead, in 1947, a small piece of biblical Israel was “given” to Jews to be the renewed Israel. A year later, the real fun began……

Diskusted
Diskusted
4 years ago

“How can democracies and dictatorships co-exist in a world body successful? They can’t.” Neither can Democratic Republics (USA)… Izlam (like playground bullies) cannot co-exist with others.

Rusty
Rusty
4 years ago
Reply to  Diskusted

Disqus is censoring!

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago
Reply to  Rusty

It may not be Disqus. Take it up with the moderator here and see who it is. I don’t remember his moniker but he has “MOD” near his name.

Halal Bacon
Halal Bacon
4 years ago

that’s all you got? go fawk a camel

famouswolf
famouswolf
4 years ago

What’s the problem? Why not just ignore them?

Jim Kress
Jim Kress
4 years ago
Reply to  famouswolf

Because we fund them. If “ignoring” them means defunding them, that’s OK.

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago

Under Trump we remain a sovereign country. We don’t answer to any World Court, International Criminal Court or the U.N.. Trump will not heel to them. All of them are trying to take us down. Screw them.

patd
patd
4 years ago

More proof that the UN is run by moronic criminals and the US needs to get out of the UN and get the UN out of the US!!!! Quit giving them our tax dollars!!!!

J k
J k
4 years ago

The Muslim controlled Useless Nations will never go after the Islamic war criminals.

Daddyo
Daddyo
4 years ago

The acronym, U.N., should no longer stand for United Nations, instead, for Umma Naz-s, an accurate description of the 60 or s0 arab/muslim nations that control its agenda.

linda goudsmit
linda goudsmit
4 years ago

What should we do? Withdraw from the UN immediately! Let the anti-American, anti-Christian, antisemitic, pro-Islamic, pro-globalism, corrupt United Nations leave New York. Let them do business anywhere else in the world they choose – just not in the sovereign United States of America. The United Nations is no longer committed to peace among sovereign nations.The UN has redefined its mission and commitment to a one-world government of global citizenship in a globalized world under the auspices of its own globalist elite leadership.

mtman2
mtman2
4 years ago
Reply to  linda goudsmit

True except it’s mission was never Peace but furthering the Globalist sponsored Communist Experiment to fulfill it’s intended purpose to break down the Christian West;

ie – WE being based on Judeo-Christian Principles from Scriptural foundations as seen in OUR Declaration of Independence espousing “freedoms under Liberty” – eventually to all mankind which undermines “their” planned borderless NWO.

durabo
durabo
4 years ago

I fervently hope that DJT will summarily evict the UN from US soil as soon as he takes office in 2021, after his reelection.

Roma Mikhasev
Roma Mikhasev
4 years ago

U.N. – left/muslim dump :))

mtman2
mtman2
4 years ago

The so called “U N” is a forced Globalist construct via FDR by the IMF @ Bretton Woods when he sold us as Debt Slave Guarantors by his Ponsi Globalist SocSec #’s unto our American soil..

Planned from the start to usher us toward a NWO run thru them- as seen in their Liberty usurping – “Agenda 21 + 2030” programs which are illicit + illegal by firstly being unConstitutional.

This outfit of “One Worlders” got us a North and South Korea, Vietnam and over a 100,000 dead American men with many more wounded in body and mind nor to mention millions of civilians.

Not even mentioning the 10’s of millions of North Koreans starved to death by the Globalist Communist Experiment- nor the millions murdered later in the “Killing Fields” of SE Asia.
Nor the installing Mao over 1billion+ Chinese rather then it’s true leader Chiang Kia-sheck = another 100million murdered by various means.

ie – UN is a Globalist insurance catalyst for “their whole Communist Experiment” system to break down the Christian West as “their crash of 1929 + created Great Depression” didn’t work.

Pear Harbor awakened the very “sleeping giant” Adolf pointed out was clueless[80+% still are] as did Henry Ford the same year(1933) as to how the bankster Globalist’s are moving us all toward what is laid out in the “Georgia Guidstones”.

This via the very “Communist Goals for America” as read into our 1963 Congressional Record = McCarthy was more right then even he knew.
But even then our so called media buried the truth to uphold “socialism coming into fulleforce”- as Stalin stated – will become Athiest Communism as seen in today’s very headlines as COMMIE Bernie runs for president of the USA – with millions of backers and “useful-idiot” shills turned out by OUR own public education indoctrination factories…

Leonard Payne
Leonard Payne
4 years ago

I’ve been saying this for so long I’ve forgotten when I started.

Get the US out of the UN and the UN OUT OF THE US.

The UN expects America to foot the bill for her own persecution!

We really should have listened to our Founders …. and it is not too late to do so …… “Trade with all, alliance with NONE”

Sweetp Holt
Sweetp Holt
4 years ago
Reply to  Leonard Payne

I’ve forgotten when I started.well I have not – 1977

danE DanE
danE DanE
4 years ago

MR. PRESIDENT: PARDON Michael New and give him back ALL of his military dignity! HE WAS RIGHT NOT TO SERVE IN THE UN! Please EVERYONE support this and write the POTUS! And FULL PARDON TO LT. COL. LAKIN!

BigMG
BigMG
4 years ago

Who didn’t see the International Court setting their sights on one country that routinely made them look foolish?
But, we are also footing the bill (mostly as a Clinton money laundering scheme, but that’s for another day).

Get US out now.

Public_Citizen
Public_Citizen
4 years ago

The John Birch Society, and many others, have been right all along.
It’s long past time that we terminate our support of the UN, which has been demonstrated repeatedly to be infested with corruption and graft at many levels, including kicking their headquarters out of the USA.
We could take the Headquarters Complex and convert it to a Service Center and Low Cost Housing for US Veterans and their dependents/survivors. This would serve the dual purpose of removing a source of political infection and upgrading the quality of life for many of our veterans at a lower cost than would otherwse be possible in the NYC area.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  Public_Citizen

Nice idea! You’ve got my vote!

Public_Citizen
Public_Citizen
4 years ago

Thank You.
While I accept the “vote of confidence”, I’m not now, never have been, and never will be a candidate for public office. You can help most to promote this idea by helping to explain it in as many different forums as possible.
As to my not running for public office, I recognized a long time ago that I do not have the temperament required for public office. I’ve worked in a close enough analog within a Fraternal Order to be intimately familiar with how the legislative process operates, and I don’t have either the intestinal fortitude to deal with the graft and grifters that infest politics or the facility as a bare faced liar that seems to be the stock in trade of too many politicians.

Public_Citizen
Public_Citizen
4 years ago

The John Birch Society, and many others, have been right all along.
It’s long past time that we terminate our support of the UN, which has been demonstrated repeatedly to be infested with corruption and graft at many levels, including kicking their headquarters out of the USA.
We could take the Headquarters Complex and convert it to a Service Center and Low Cost Housing for US Veterans and their dependents/survivors. This would serve the dual purpose of removing a source of political infection and upgrading the quality of life for many of our veterans at a lower cost than would otherwse be possible in the NYC area.

John Acord
John Acord
4 years ago

Exactly how are these “Justices” appointed to the Court?

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago

The statue I believe is of US Marines raising the US flag over Iwo Jima (i.e. not US army GI’s).

Robert Emanuel
Robert Emanuel
4 years ago

Now is Trump’s time to really stand up for America and its soldiers and tell the UN what to do with its “power.” And this fine publication should identify exactly what is the ICC before the first abbreviation appears in this article, but it never does throughout the entire article: poor composition, which we usually learn in middle school.

Kputt
Kputt
4 years ago

The so called “United Nations” has (since about 9/11) been infiltrated heavily by Islam – without resistance!
In “the Charta of the Islamic Brotherhood” says very clearly, how every government organisations, political parties, authorities of any kind, companies, medias, educationinfrastructures etc. – just everything on Earth, has to be infiltrated step by step by muslims. Quran also is comanding the ongoing taking over of all nonislamic countries.

Craig Vandertie
Craig Vandertie
4 years ago

I could care less about accusations against the state of israel considering their crimes are many.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/03/24/spy_vs_spy_america_and_israel_edition/

https://wearechange.org/us-officials-israel-spying-on-america-has-reached-terrifying-levels/

In most cases I trust Julian Assange and his staff.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

Now as to war crimes committed by our military against the wicked Afghanistanis, ROFLMAO, what about all the war crimes they are guilty of for that matter all the atrocities committed against all non-muslims around the world, only good muslim is a dead muslim.

ladywarrior
ladywarrior
4 years ago

I’ve said for 40 years to raze the UN building down. Put in a parking lot and park. They would be far more useful and less dangerous.

I’m serious. Withdraw from the UN….it will save us trillions of dollars over time.

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