[ April 23, 2024 ]
The Coronavirus mortality rate does not correspond to the disproportionate response. The mortality rate went from over 3% to 1.9%. And that doesn’t take into account the undiagnosed who do not get sick or exhibit symptoms.. But the Democrats and their radical media partners are inciting to riot and panic. They are throwing Americans out of work, destroying millions of small businesses, and wiping out the lifesavings of all Americans.
Yes Italy has suffered but that is due in large part to the age of their population. The Italian population is the oldest in Europe, with about 23 percent of the inhabitants age 65 or older Many of those who have died in Italy were in their 80s and 90s, the segment of the population that is more susceptible to the virus.
It is absolutely a dangerous flu. But you don’t shut down civilization.
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You can slow down the spread without shutting everything down. It’s madness.
There have been deadly sicknesses before H1N1 (2009), MERS (2012), Ebola (2014). It has never ever remotely gone this far. It’s just anti-Trump. They want to kill the Trump economy. And they have.
Let’s talk about the flu. So far, the CDC has estimated (based on weekly influenza surveillance data) that at least 12,000 people have died from influenza between Oct. 1, 2019 through Feb. 1, 2020, and the number of deaths may be as high as 30,000.
You never hear anything about that. There are no new stories about that. No hands flailing or dire warnings
The CDC also estimates that up to 31 million Americans have caught the flu this season, with 210,000 to 370,000 flu sufferers hospitalized because of the virus
So how do these numbers compare to flu deaths in previous years? So far, it looks like the 2019-2020 death toll won’t be as high as it was in the 2017-2018 season, when 61,000 deaths were linked to the virus. However, it could equal or surpass the 2018-2019 season’s 34,200 flu-related deaths.
The United States has 3,000 confirmed cases of the coronavirus, and the death toll is 61, with 25 of the deaths associated with the Life Care Center in Kirkland, Washington, a nursing home.
RELATED: COUP-FLU: Of the 61 U.S. coronavirus deaths, 25 were associated with one nursing home
The Coronavirus Fatality Rate Reported by the Media Is COMPLETELY INACCURATE. The Actual Rate Is LESS THAN THE FLU – MEDIA LYING AGAIN
by Joe Hoft, Gateway Pundit, March 16, 2020:
The current estimate for the fatality rates on the coronavirus just don’t add up. The estimates based on current data are completely inaccurate. Current data shows that this virus is much less deadly that even the common flu from the 2019-2020 season.
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Summary of points below:
- Estimates have been made about the fatality rate of the coronavirus
- Sometimes estimates are reasonable and sometimes they are off, way off
- The current global coronavirus fatality rate is estimated at 3.4%
- The same rate for the flu is 10% (but the media tells you it’s .1%)
- Actual results for the coronavirus are lower than the flu
- Current estimates between the flu and the coronavirus are not comparing ‘apples to apples’
- Those most at risk from the coronavirus are the elderly (average age of death in 80) and the sick
1. Estimates have been made about the fatality rate of the coronavirus.
Often times estimates have to be made because data is just not yet available. These estimates usually involve obtaining information that is available and making estimates on what is not. We cannot tell the future but we can make educated guesses based on information available. This is what has been done with the coronavirus because this type of virus has apparently never been seen before.
2. Sometimes estimates are reasonable and sometimes they are wrong, way off.
I personally know of estimates made by actuaries (i.e. statisticians) who projected profits in a country that were way wrong. In this case the government changed the regulations related to the business in the country which resulted in tens of millions in losses in USD. I know of another case where actuaries predicted a deal to be profitable that eventually led to over $100 million in losses.
The point is that whenever estimates are made they are always wrong because no one can tell the future. Sometimes estimates end up close and sometimes they are not and sometimes they are way off.
3. The current estimate for the coronavirus fatality rate is about 3.4%.
The estimates for the fatality rate for the coronavirus are shocking. The CDC released one report in February stating the rate varies between 12% and 1%:
Our estimates of the risk for death in Wuhan reached values as high as 12% in the epicenter of the epidemic and ≈1% in other, more mildly affected areas.
A report by the World Health Organization (WHO) and China estimates the mortality rate to be around 3.8% based on actual results:
As of 20 February, 2114 of the 55,924 laboratory confirmed cases have died (crude fatality ratio [CFR2] 3.8%) (note: at least some of whom were identified using a case definition that included pulmonary disease). The overall CFR varies by location and intensity of transmission (i.e. 5.8% in Wuhan vs. 0.7% in other areas in China).
Other reports are that the WHO estimates the mortality rate to be around 3.4%:
The World Health Organization (WHO) has estimated the mortality rate from Covid-19 is about 3.4%. That is higher than seasonal flu and is cause for concern – but even if it is correct, more than 96% of people who become infected with the coronavirus will recover.
As of today, the actual fatality rate for those who were confirmed to have had the coronavirus is 3.84%. This is the number of fatalities from the virus divided by the number of individuals who were confirmed with the virus.
4. The same rate for the flu is 10% (but the media tells you it’s .1%).
As The Gateway Pundit reported earlier, according to CDC numbers, in the US in the 2019-2020 flu season, there were 222,000 confirmed cases of the flu from testing and an estimated 36 million flu cases in the United States. There were 22,000 confirmed deaths from the flu.
Note that the number of deaths and confirmed cases (through testing) of the flu in the US are based on actual data. The number of individuals who contracted the flu is an estimate by experts. There is no way to know who had the flu in the US because many cases are not severe and people do not have a test done to confirm they had the flu. They believe their symptoms are minor and go on with their normal lives thinking they have a cold or something similar. Because of this, the CDC must estimate and they estimated 36 million people had the flu in this past flu season.
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127 Comments
4 years ago
Now the author went and threw real facts and truth into the situation. The libturd parasites hate facts and truth because they make their tiny libturd brain cell explode.
4 years ago
The massive lying idiot Trumpo has failed the American People…
America is in Deep Trouble…
Listen… WEAR THOSE MASKS!!!
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
Is Covid-19 your issue or that “lying idiot Trumpo” your biggest concern? You seem fixated…
4 years ago
Reply to
MAS
The massive lying idiot Trumpo (trumpet mouth) has been and IS putting American lives at risk with CV19…
Remember… the idiot Trumpo said 2 weeks ago… “Everything is under control”… <<< When is was NOT!!!
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
Uh huh, how’s your Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer holding up for us? You seem even more fixated, hope you’re getting paid well for it…
4 years ago
Reply to
MAS
Silly you… I’m a conservative…
But that won’t stop me from pointing out American government failures…
Get this… The idiot Trumpo is NOT a god…
4 years ago
Reply to
MAS
Then don’t worry… you should be advancing in a few years… where life will get more difficult for ya…
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
You’re no conservative. No one stated Trump is a “God”. You only point out that you don’t operate on facts.
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
Wen you trust the massive lying idiot Trumpo… who LIES!!! <<< You have a problem...
4 years ago
Reply to
MAS
No, they aren’t paid very well. As long as it is paid enough for a soy latte and some hot pockets, it’s happy.
And, the poor little creature takes its hot pockets home for its mommy to microwave for them. Dayumm microwaves are SO technical.
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
Only an IDIOT would think a mask protects the person wearing it. A mask protects mask free from the mask wearer spreading it. In other words, the person wearing the mask prevents OTHERS from getting his/her germs to the unmasked.
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
Don’t be an idiot…
If you don’t believe me… then why do Hospital Staff need them? Why are they wearing masks and Face Shields?
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
I’m not the idiot. Again, read this slowly…
the person wearing the face mask protects OTHERS not wearing a face mask. Why do you think in an operating room they ALL wear face masks?
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
That’s for open wounds…
CV19 patients don’t have open wounds…
Try thinking… it might help you…
4 years ago
PANIC! It’s your patriotic duty…
4 years ago
fact: if trump wasn’t in white house, this would have been a non-event, like the other chinese influenzas swine, bird, and whatever. i can’t believe the donald allowed the deep state to roll him on this one. in particular, the cdc and that unknown dr. fauci, who has personally made sure to incite panic with his outlandish predictions.
4 years ago
Reply to
tituspullo
The swine flu was not from china. It was from Mexico. That’s why, at first, it was referred to as the Mexican Swine Flu, eventually killing close to 60,000 Americans. Build the Wall.
4 years ago
Reply to
Achmed Mohandjob
I was mistaken about the Swine Flu. I thought that originated from China too. The Chinese bitched about having to slaughter their pigs They are big on pork.
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
No, H1N1 (Mexican Swine Flu) was from mexico. Of course the chinee bitched. It devastated close to 2/3 of their pig crop. And, everyone … remember to give thanks to the spics.
Build The Wall.
4 years ago
Reply to
tituspullo
True … if a Demokkkrat was President … it would be less than a non-event …
The Demokkkrats would do absolutely nothing …
… and declare their President victorious over the virus
But I don’t think President Trump had a choice in this matter … once the Enemedia spooked the markets because of the supply chain interruption … they had a ‘hook’ for their story and they would not let go
If a rabid dog bit you and refused to let go – at least you could get a gun and blow it’s brains out – but the President does not have that option with the Enemedia. … Even our own guys are crazy – we just saw Nolte claim 480k were going to die of this … which is outrageous.
you and yours have a wonderful week, Titus!
4 years ago
Reply to
tituspullo
tituspullo, I do not agree, not with this worldwide Wuhan Virus event. And if Trump was not in the WH, but Hillary was, the death toll would be much higher because she has neither the leadership skills, organizational skills or intelligence to accomplish what President Trump has. The fact is that this is a tough spot Trump is in, nothing he does will please a great number of people on both sides of the political spectrum.
It is a shame that this has happened, but it has and I sincerely believe Trump is doing his upmost, and perhaps it was for this very reason he became our President.
4 years ago
Reply to
eassa
baloney. the democrat media and deep state rolled you too. why in the world would you believe anything from the same people who predicted LA would be underwater by now because I have a gasoline lawn mower, or that trump conspired with the russians, or that the muslim president wasn’t a foreign born illegal alien? i live in CO. 2, count them, 2, old folks who were already sick have allegedly died due to this in 2020. more people than that died in car crashes in CO this week. should we now be banning cars? when did you become a sheep?
4 years ago
Reply to
tituspullo
“the democrat media and deep state rolled you too.”
Not hardly. It sounds as if you could use a cold shower to cool off that trigger-happy temper of yours. Here is a little something cold and tasty to help quench your critical tongue…but wash your hands before drinking. 😉
4 years ago
this is silly. The undiagnosed with no symptoms are NOT sick, so no disease, no COVID-19 (D for disease) so you cannot count them in the death rate for the disease. it is plainly obvious.
4 years ago
1% of 350,000,000 is still a stupid number. I think Big Media will regret their over hyping of this once people are absolutely sick (haha) of hearing about it. I think we already passed that point. People are going to tune out the BS media in disgusted droves.
4 years ago
Reply to
Philip
The problem is the MSM will never admit they were wrong and lie MORE about it.
4 years ago
Reply to
Philip
The MS media is never fully trustworthy and sometimes it disseminates propaganda.
Euronews TV news presenter Anelise Borges
4 years ago
Reply to
Philip
The MS media is never fully trustworthy and sometimes it disseminates propaganda. Euronews TV news presenter Anelise Borges
4 years ago
If a Demokkkrat was President …
… we would not even know we had a cold …
… much less a mild cold that largely affects the old, those with compromised immune systems, and healthcare professionals …
The threat here is – and always has been since this first appeared on the radar – … is the panic.
And the CDC bungling their job back in January with the test kits and the brain-dead bureaucratic red tape didn’t help.
The President had to cut the red tape himself
… and now he has to go on TV all the time to reassure the nation like he’s our granny taking care of a bunch of sick toddlers …
Again – we conservatives needed and need to take this Chinese Wuhan virus VERY seriously – not because of the facts and the stats but because of the freaking panic.
4 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
Who’s panicking?
I don’t see anyone fighting in Grocery lines… or seen anyone firing their weapons at neighbors trying to protect their food supplies…
You don’t know what panic is…
[edit] The massive lying idiot Trumpo has failed America… once saying… “Everything is under control” <<< When it wasn't and now Americans are gonna be suffering…
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
According to your posts … you’re the one panicking.
Again, the fact that my town has virtually shut down – over a virus that’s less lethal than the common cold – shows real panic. If people were not panicking, all the stores and restaurants would be open. … From the look of the town, you would think we have tsunami warning or a cat 5 hurricane coming …
Again … you’re the one posting as if the Chinese-caused Wuhan Coronavirus is the end of the world … and it’s not.
As for the President – if he were a Demokkkrat – he would do nothing except declare victory and the Enemedia would be singing his praises like he was God.
Yet you’re posting as if the President was personally responsible for murdering thousands of people. You’re posts are more appropriate for Bush 43 or 41 – much less for any DemonKKKrap politician.
Have a nice day, and don’t catch a cold.
4 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
The massive lying idiot Trumpo (trumpet mouth) has failed containing CV19 from the very beginning…
Again… YOU don’t know what panic is…
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
So you’ll stand with the idiot Trumpo regardless if he has been lying to the American People?
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
Why do you insist on lying about him?
Honestly, I am really not interested in your simple minded reply. Democrat Underground would be a better place for you. Fellow liberals will love you.
If you are being paid to post this garbage, they should get a refund. Your hysterical repetitive replies are silly. Relying on name calling shows me you are out of amo.
4 years ago
Reply to
williamdiamon
Shameful…
As the world gets conditioned for Islamofascism… The lemmings get conditioned for the Antichrist…
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
Sounds like YOU are panicing over Trump.
You don’t know what reality is.
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
America is in DEEP TROUBLE…
And it’s the massive lying idiot Trumpo and his so called idiot experts that caused what’s coming…
4 years ago
Today … my little town looks like a ghost town
… you could almost shoot a zombie apocalypse movie on our main street
… INVASION OF THE CORONAVIRUS
… Because WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE! [insert crazy histrionic characters]
… But the Enemedia have overplayed their hand
… Two weeks of this – and the R0 transmission factor for Chinese Wuhan Covid-19 Sars-cov-2 will drop
… to Zilch Zero Nada … and we will all be saved.
If this keeps up, the crisis will be over before Memorial Day
… AND THE PRESIDENT WILL BE THE CONQUEROR OF THE VIRUS INVADERS
… HAPPY ENDING for us … and the Libtards will just have to overdose on hysteria, depression, and pills
4 years ago
Reply to
Poetcomic1
Thank you! … and Amen!
you and yours have a wonderful week, Poetcomic!
4 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
The massive lying idiot Trumpo said it would be July or August…
Learn to listen to your fake god Trumpo…
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
Wrong…
I support the idiot Trumpo… he’s the best idiot of all the idiots…
Thing #1 or Thing #2 <<< Dr Suess... Take your pick...
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
You really are juvenile.
Move on troll.
You are the defninition of an “idiot”.
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
Actually; You should move along and stop replying to my comments, if they bother you so much…
In the mean time exposing the idiot Trumpo’s lies… and encouraging others to prepare… will remain my focus…
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
Insulting people is not a good way to win friends and influence people.
Remember your Dale Carnegie … and try to be calm.
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNN….you grow tiresome. Buh-bye.
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
Deep breathes … and take your meds.
Yes, the President said it could be July or August … big difference between “could” and “would”
… apparently you missed the portion of the Q&A where the President admitted he had no control over the virus, but was speaking solely to the issue of managing the Federal response.
… to translate that for you: The President admitted that he does not know when it will be over and he admitted that he cannot control when it will be over.
That is the difference between “could” and “would” btw.
But the panic – like you’re panicking – will reduce the R0 and it will short circuit the virus transmissivity.
Again – take a chill pill and have a nice day.
4 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
The massive lying idiot Trumpo said 2 weeks ago… “Everything is under control” <<< When is was NOT!
While his so called experts were saying… Americans were at "low Risk" <<< LIES!!!
While his so called experts were saying… "No need for masks" <<< LIES!!!
When anyone wanting to leave China could simply take a flight to Thailand and then catch a flight to the USA…
Even after the idiot Trumpo banned "north" Italy… all anyone had to do was take a flight from Southern Italy…
The massive lying idiot Trumpo (trumpet mouth) has failed America miserably…
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
“Everything is under control” … because it is.
… Everything the President can control is being done.
… The risk is low. If nothing was done, the risk would still be low. The risk is even lower since we’re working to slow the transmission rate of the virus.
… As for the mask thing … if every American used an N95 mask for every activity … not only would it be a massive waste of resources, but it would consume the masks healthcare professionals need.
… If you had listened to the advice instead of PANICKING!!! …. you would already know that the “no need for masks” was conditional advice – no need for masks in low risk, routine activity.
… Granted they should have said – ‘we don’t have enough masks because the Demokkkrats outsourced our jobs to China’ – but if they said that the headlines would scream “TRUMP FORCED US TO NOT HAVE ENOUGH MASKS WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!”
… Of course – I see you got the memo from CNN and PMSNBC without the President having to make a false admission he knew would play into the hands of the fear-mongering Enemedia.
Calm Down and Have a Nice Day … plus I will have to get back to your other posts b/c I have to get some work done on one of my rentals … hopefully you will calm down in a few hours.
4 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
You’re outta touch with reality…
Things were NEVER under control… and NEVER have been…
America is in DEEP TROUBLE… <<< We haven't even begun to see the effects of the massive lying idiot Trumpo failures yet,,,
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
Again, deep breathes … inhale … exhale …
… inhale … hold it … exhale … … repeat a couple times …
… see everything is better.
1. Trump has taken more steps to address the Chinese-caused Wuhan Coronavirus than any President since the Lord knows when. No Demokkkrat has taken such steps, and they would not take such steps.
2. You wrote: “America is in DEEP TROUBLE… We haven’t even begun to see the effects of the massive … failures [of the President].
This is nothing but fear-mongering.
You’ve not only got Trump Derangement Syndrome, but you have TDS induced panic. We are not in “deep” trouble …
a. We are not in “deep” trouble due to the President’s attempts to reduce our exposure to the Chinese-slave supply chain. The President has taken extraordinary steps in the last few weeks to alleviate immediate shortages caused by the Chinese-slave economy, but … moreover Trump has spent the last 3 years trying to reduce America’s dependence on Chinese-slaves and their slave economy.
b. We are not in “deep” trouble due to the Chinese-caused Wuhan Coronavirus – which is LESS lethal than influenza on a CONFIRMED case fatality rate basis. The virus will sort itself out and we will be over the hump by mid-June at the latest, and it will all be over by August.
c. We are not in “deep” trouble due to anything the President has done or has not done. It is true that the CDC dropped the ball on testing in January, and has had to play catch up since then – but it obvious the President has been pushing them to cut through the red tape and get their act together.
Now, deep breathes again … and remain calm.
4 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
That got me thinking … the only other case that came to mind was Eisenhower and the polio vaccine, so I tried to look it up. Here is one article:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/ike-trusted-new-vaccine
4 years ago
Reply to
AlgorithmicAnalyst
Ike was a great leader … and you’ve got a great memory … I have to admit I was only thinking of viruses causing cold-like symptoms.
Dr. Salk’s vaccine was a miracle – and some of us would say that it was a Miracle.
you and yours have a wonderful week, AA!
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
My goodness, what a brilliant, erudite, detailed well researched response. Actually “reaction” is the better word I think.
4 years ago
Reply to
Rivia
Your link of “fraud” is pure speculation…
China is 4 months into dealing with CV19…
America… on it’s 3rd week… <<< That's if we start with Feb 20th and the Princess Diamond embarking... "Flattening the Curve" is accepting a certain amount of deaths... and letting Americans get infected... intentionally...
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
It appears that your outright hatred of the best POTUS in my 68 years has sent you over the edge. Your ability to reason has been short circuited. President Trump cannot control this virus. His decision to cut off travel from Europe was excellent. The only thing I consider way out of balance is the draconian measures from Democrats in my state and county. We have 300,000 plus people in my city, and one person who just tested positive after traveling. Yesterday most county workers were sent home for a free 6 week vacation. The grocery stores cannot get whole categories of food. No more than 10 people can meet together. This is madness, but it isn’t ordered by POTUS.
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
You and your leftist friends, in all seriousness need to conduct some independent research. Let me start you on the right path. Here is the link. And if you aren’t brainwashed yet, be honest about this and check out ALL of this scientist’s work on the matter. He has 4 advanced degrees in bio research: https://techstartups.com/2020/03/12/mit-biologist-says-fear-mongering-coronavirus-will-go-biggest-fraud-manipulate-economies/
4 years ago
Reply to
Rivia
Giving me a link to show a person’s credibility does NOTHING…
Even the massive lying idiot Trumpo’s so called expert task force was telling Americans they didn’t need masks… <<< That alone exposes how incompetent experts can be and are... IMO the idiot Trumpo wants to spread CV19 across America... Which ties in with him saying... "This will disappear, like a miracle"...
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
Meanwhile as late as last Debate Joe Biden was calling trump a xenophobe for banning flights.
Which is it? Was Trump under or over reacting? Or do you get to pick and chose at random to support an ideology?
4 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
The massive lying idiot Trumpo said 2 weeks ago… “Everything is under control” <<< When is was NOT! While his so called experts were saying... Americans were at "low Risk" <<< LIES!!! While his so called experts were saying... "No need for masks" <<< LIES!!! When anyone wanting to leave China could simply take a flight to Thailand and then catch a flight to the USA... Even after the idiot Trumpo banned "north" Italy... all anyone had to do was take a flight from Southern Italy... The massive lying idiot Trumpo (trumpet mouth) has failed America miserably...
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
My mom had an expression for describing your brand of idiocy, “There is none so stupid as someone who is stupid and doesn’t know it.”
4 years ago
Reply to
Drew the Infidel
America is in Deep Trouble because of the massive lying idiot Trumpo and his so called task force failing and making bad choices…
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
You’re so full of sh*t that if your eyes are not brown, it only means you are a quart low.
4 years ago
Reply to
Drew the Infidel
That is the great problem with humanity the ones that are stupid do mot know how stupid they are. Example the current ‘fashion’ for tattoos and ripped jeans
4 years ago
It’s just anti-Trump. They want to kill the Trump economy. And they have.
‘They have tried everything to unseat Trump. In any rally he always mentions the economy, stock market and 401ks. These were standard talking points. They want him out and this seems to be having some effect. Plus we up the debt and get people back to being government dependent and shopping for government free stuff. This could attract more to Biden. Some people will over look his issues. Money talks.
4 years ago
Infidels – upset a Muslim and celebrate Saint Patrick’s Day,
even if you are not Irish. We’re not Irish and put a clover on our front door. Muslims do not celebrate ANY of our holidays because of their Judeo Christian roots. Even Memorial day and Labor Day is shunned.
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
Don’t be ignorant…
satanic worshiping muslims are NOT Judeo Christian…
They don’t worship the same God… they worship a fake god once known as the Babylonian moon god called Baal…
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
Um did you bother to READ what was posted?
Your ignorant reply was already addressed.
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
Don’t be an idiot…
satanic worshiping muslims DO NOT worship the One True Living God… they worship a fake god… once called Baal…
Wake up and learn the Truth…
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
You misread felix’s post …
… Muslims do not celebrate our holidays because our holidays have Judeo-Christian roots.
… That was more than clear the way felix posted it.
Stop calling people names – that’s not very Christian of you – and although you’re upset because you’re panicking over a virus –
…you need to calm down and have a nice day.
4 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
That’s NOT what was said…
“Muslims do not celebrate ANY of our holidays because of their Judeo Christian roots.”
But I do see my error…
— and—
I’m not calling anyone names… telling someone not to be an idiot is NOT telling them they are one.
Do you have a brain? <<< Try using it…
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
1. That was what was said.
“Judeo Christian roots” modifies “our holidays”
Not to be a grammar Nastie, but you are the one jumping up and down here.
2. You called felix an “idiot” because you did not read his post. You did not read his post because you’re excited and angry and posting crazy talk.
And …
Even if you think you have a right to call people names because of your superior understanding of grammar …
… it’s not a good way to communicate with people.
3. Then you insult me.
Again, you’re the one who is clearly panicking here. If you calmed down, you would not be insulting other people. It’s not persuasive; especially on this website.
Try to be calm … and have a nice day.
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
Is reading and comprehension another stumbling block for you? Too hysterical to do that or just illiterate?
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
Sure is… especially when you word things incorrectly…
Regardless… the satanic catholic fake church teaches they worship the fake god allah… so why would anyone celebrate the dead saint Patrick day…
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
I fixed my typo. Flying fingers!
It’s an Irish holiday. I don’t want our holidays going away because they offend Muslims. I also defend Christmas.
BTW, We are not Catholic. I understand the differences as a Protestant. I don’t subscribe to divide and conquer on that issue right now and often point out the current Pope and his hypocrisy.
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
“Irish holiday”???… and the satanic catholic fake church observes dead people as saints…
You should learn to do research…
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
Same to you felix – although I have to have my green beer at home since all of our bars and restaurants are closed here thanks to the Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus panic … LOL.
you and yours have a wonderful week!
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
1. You wrote: “America created it …”
That is a conspiracy theory. It is also – literally – Chinese Communist Disinformation.
Yes – I am well aware of the information out there which suggests the novel RNA parts of the chain may have been modified by an American lab. But this information is unconfirmed and …
Even that is true …
… It is a loooong, loooooooooong way away from justifying any blame for the virus on America.
2. Again – assuming any of the chain came from America –
Blaming any American lab, agency, or entity for what the Chinese did with the virus is improper.
If any portion of the virus was created in America, the Chinese stole it. What the Chinese did with the virus after they stole it – if that’s true – is their responsibility.
3. The Chinese-caused Wuhan Coronavirus escaped into the general population in Wuhan. We suspect it came from a lab – because of news reports about a nearby lab, etc., etc. But all of that could be wrong. What’s true – and undeniable – is that the virus entered the population in Wuhan and became an epidemic there after the Chinese – in their typical fashion – did everything they could to turn a potential epidemic into an actual epidemic.
There is no evidence any American or American entity through any intentional act or act of negligence caused the virus to appear in the population of Wuhan at any time.
4. And … all of the evidence in favor of points No. 1 and 2 eliminate any possibility of an intentional or negligent release of the virus in Wuhan by Americans. Instead, it points to Chinese spies stealing the virus – or stealing it with the help of an insider, eg. a Thousand Talents player – and not by any American entity acting with a nefarious intent as suggested by Chinese disinformation.
Your comment suggests that you have swallowed a “blame America first” pill somewhere along the line. Perhaps you’ve misunderstood something, or read one too many conspiracy theorists, but no matter what the case may be, you ought to consider that the term “America” refers to all of us and to our culture and ideology as well as to our nation … and it should not be used for the actions or organizations working against the nation’s interests.
Again … take a deep breath … be calm … and have a nice day!
4 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
It really is astonishing how the blame-Trump-first crowd eagerly attempts to dump the Communist Wuhan Virus at the feet of Trump, never willing to assign the blame to where it belongs.
If left to these armchair flu experts, what would they actually do if this responsibility was on their shoulders? And what is the chorus of the hate-Trump-first crowd? The Communist Wuhan Virus is Trump’s fault and nothing he does is good enough; impeach, impeach, impeach.
Snoring-boring foolishness.
4 years ago
Reply to
eassa
Yes, it is disappointing how so many are so quick to blame Trump, but it is also human nature.
We are in a major crisis – regardless of what we believe is the cause – and President Trump is the man in charge; hence, he is responsible like the Captain of the ship, and there are some who will blame him for anything and everything as if he personally decided to take the wrong advice and do everything wrong. And he cannot do any “Mia Culpa” type thing because of the political situation.
Now, to be clear, there was a huge screw up in January. I’m not sure of all the details, but the bottom line is that we did not put out testing kits of the quality and quantity necessary to test anyone suspected of having the virus. This was entirely the fault of the Feds and CDC.
We also had regulations in place that forced labs to ask “mommy may i” to the Federal government to perform their own tests. These regulations were put into place because the Left wants the Federal government to control everything. (Hint – this has a lot to do with the Alphabet people and hiding the epidemiology of their lifestyle and co-morbidity of other strongly related factors.) …
Those regulations prevented our private, State, and university labs from leaping into the breach and ramping up.
We also rolled out almost no advice on containment and quarantine measures for emergencies. This situation continues – see the massive human petri dish jam at O’Hare airport when Trump announced an extension of the travel bans. The TSA should have been warned/prepared to change their protocol to prevent human-to-human transmission – now called “social distancing” protocols.
FEMA, the VA, and the military should have already been activated too.
This is because – to those of us who know epidemiology – we knew case load will curve and shortages of supplies, e.g. PPE, tests, beds, etc. will go short very fast.
And those of us who know politics – know the actual crisis will be overblown to hurt the President.
The problem is that we have small minds running everything – and we just do not have enough people with vision running all of these bureaucracies to head off these mistakes.
Again – I cannot speak to these issues in detail – but I spent a whole career watching all of this unfold in the field of environmental regulation. Politics and quackery ruled all decision making, and the Federal regulators were specifically – deliberately – intentionally – chosen for their LACK of any objective qualifications, LACK of merit, and LACK of vision or mission oriented spirit.
Trump probably knows this, but he cannot remake the Federal bureaucracy overnight. I guarantee – as bad as the DOJ/FBI was to him – he never expected to be blindsided by the Federal incompetence in a healthcare crisis. We don’t think of CDC, NIH, FEMA, or VA as hyper partisan – politically dominated bureaucracies. … and to be fair, they probably aren’t compared to other agencies, but they’re still Federal bureaucracies … they don’t leap into action the way an entrepreneurial business would.
To be fair – the Feds – under the President – have done far more than I expected. Under a Demokkkrat – I am sure all of the private labs would still be laboring under the old rules to go through the slow “mommy may i” take every step.
Trump is certainly not responsible in a personal way for any of this – heck, the man has had to spend a lot of his time just trying to stop the internal Deep State coup attempt. But the Feds really screwed him – and us – over on this, and we are 4-6 weeks behind because of it.
What we should be pointing to though – is the President has gotten the bureaucracy turned around and working with private industry to bring this crisis to a halt.
From personal experience with Federal bureaucrats … I think that’s astounding …
… I would have said that to get these dipsticks on the right page – we would have to take them all out to the parking lot … and shoot one in ten.
But apparently Trump has the charisma and chemistry to get them to do their jobs without taking such drastic action.
you and yours have a wonderful week!
4 years ago
Infidels – upset a Muslim and celebrate Saint Patrick’s Day,
even if you are not Irish. We’re not Irish and put a clover on our front door. Muslims do not celebrate ANY of our holidays because of their Judeo Christian roots. Even Memorial day and Labor Day is shunned.
4 years ago
Correct… not everyone dies from CV19…
However; there is a big percentage of those that recover… who have 20-30% permanent damage to their lungs…
Don’t worry… it’s just a old folks disease… aye?
Remember… The massive lying idiot Trumpo’s Expert Task Force told you not to wear masks…
As for me and my House… We’ll wear masks & goggles when in public…
Why Goggles? CV19 is transmissible through the eyes too…
Don’t believe me? Then ask yourself why Hospital workers are wearing masks and face shields?
Do you still trust your expert governments?
4 years ago
Try smoking marijuana with half your lungs damaged…
Now let’s see who gonna… PANIC!!!
[edit] Think positive…
With half your lungs gone… you’ll expect to cut your marijuana intake in half…
You’ll be able to use that extra money to buy your kids some food after the Food Stamps run out…
4 years ago
Our healthcare system has had years to develop the capacity to handle 180K cases of regular flu per year. Could it handle double that? Currently Italian hospitals are not able to provide ICU treatment for patients over 65 or 70. People calling their 911 (111 in Italy) are unable to get through, so people with heart attacks are out of luck. Their ambulance and EMT’s are infected and out sick. IOW their healthcare system is overwhelmed. We’re trying to avoid that here.
4 years ago
Reply to
RCCA
There are so many cases in Italy it is triage time.
What is going on in Italy is tragic.
4 years ago
Reply to
RCCA
And yet… the American government has been telling Americans they don’t need masks. <<< What complete failures... WEAR MASKS PEOPLE!!! Don't listen the the idiot experts!!!
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
You are not really helping out here. You are trying to cause panic. There were many reasons NOT to tell people they need masks:
1. Most masks are not suitable for keeping out viruses, so wearing them won’t protect you from airborn viruses, the only benefit might be to keep you from touching your nose and mouth.
2. If people decided to hoard masks, like they did with toilet paper, then people who actually need masks because they have to interact with infected people would not have masks available.
3. You are better off focusing on keeping your hands clean because that is where the greatest chance of contamination is. An infected person (something like two thirds or more of infected people in China had no symptoms and didn’t know they were infected) touches something and hours later you touch it. Wearing a mask is not going to help you at all if you don’t wash your hands thoroughly and then go and eat something or scratch your nose, etc.
4. Even if you have the proper type of mask, N95, it is only worthwhile if you are in within 3-6 ft. of someone infected who is coughing. If that is not your situation you don’t really need to be wearing a mask.
5. People who should wear masks in public are the people who are sick. That would be considerate.
4 years ago
Reply to
RCCA
You’re NOT helping anyone… but trying to get people killed…
CV19 is an aerosol… which floats on the air… not like droplets, which fall to the ground…
You can walk into an area where someone sneezed and get infected…
Remember… YOU don’t need masks… only Hospital workers do. <<< Why is that? Not only masks... but Face Shields and full cover gowns... Please... stop spreading your nonsense...
4 years ago
Reply to
sumsrent
A bizarre response, to say the least. FYI this is not a personal matter for me so my feelings are not involved. You describe the CV19 virus as an aerosol, not droplets, but the term used by the professionals is “aerosol droplets.” Eventually the aerosol droplets do fall.
If you are convinced the atmosphere where you are is highly contaminated with the Covid-19 virus, wear a mask 24/7. Just make sure that you use the correct type of mask, that it is fitted properly and changed regularly because the moisture in your breath will eventually transmit the virus. Also make sure you don’t touch the mask without washing your hands thoroughly before because otherwise you might transmit the virus through the mask. Be very careful when you remove the mask because if it is saturated with viruses they will be disturbed and when take it away from your face you may breathe in more virus. Make sure you dispose of the mask properly and wash your hands thoroughly afterward.
Or you could wash your hands thoroughly and often and keep a distance from people, stay away from crowds, and don’t touch your face unless you’ve washed before. I think that’s good advice coming from CDC for the general public who are not in direct contact with infected individuals.
4 years ago
Reply to
RCCA
RCCA, plus we are aware the Wuhan Virus can enter through the eyes as well.
4 years ago
Reply to
eassa
All droplet transmitted viruses can enter through the eyes. Probably the easiest point of entry.
4 years ago
Reply to
eassa
One thing I don’t understand is why they don’t say the ears. Do you know the reason?
4 years ago
Reply to
RCCA
As I understand it, the virus enters through mucus membranes and blood vessels and that is probably why the ears are not a problem.
Have a nice weekend. 🙂
4 years ago
The wonderful head of the WHO: when his country had a cholera outbreak he claimed it was just some people having stomach problems.
Now he runs the WHO. Trust anything he says? Its part of the UN. Trust anything coming from the UN?
4 years ago
Statistics are like a prostitute. You can do with them just about anything you wish.
4 years ago
YOU WILL KNOW WHEN THINGS START GETTING REALLY DESPERATE!
4 years ago
Putin – tyrant
4 years ago
I am so terribly disappointed in Pamela Geller peddling false information and lies like this article. You are going to get people killed, you stupid woman. Stop spreading lies. Unsubscribing.
4 years ago
Never let a ” crisis ” that you can use to further your nutbag leftwing agenda go to waste regardless of how much damage it does to the rest of us
4 years ago
The ChiComs launched a WMD on the West that will kill millions while at the same time reaping hundreds of billions of profits from the stocks the securities they sold short. They have launched World War III and no one appears notice. while our markets tanked, panic was induced by a Dog Fart Media under their control. Here are the facts supporting my allegations:
The ChiComs have launched World War III. They have covered up their collapsing economy, imposed incredibly restrictive measures on their own people, and thrown the West into Chaos. They released a bioweapon that will probably kill 2.5million people in the US and the UK according to recent projections of the Imperial College in the UK. In The Meantime, they have collected hundreds of billions of profits from their carefully orchestrated “panic.”
In the past 4 days the world’s markets have declined by the following:
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Now, look at this:
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China, the creator of the pandemic, has miraculously “recovered”, has almost no more cases of coronavirus. The world is now beginning to feel the effects and panic about the disease. Who recovered first ?? China itself! It seems to be that this virus was a move by the Chinese government in response to the loss of the trade war with the United States. The goal: to throw the world into recession !!!
Is the scenario not clear? They are already growing! China bought almost everything it devalued on the stock exchanges around the world … with that the Chinese became owners of the global companies that are in China and without the money leaving China
