More than 5,000 Americans Killed, Wounded, Kidnapped Trying to Rebuild Afghanistan

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Immoral, colossal, stupid self-sacrifice. A disgrace.

We should fight fascism, communism, political Islam when they come to this country. As to fighting abroad, let alone rebuilding a failed country, send all the equipment that needed (without sacrifice) to any fight for freedom, whether it’s against fascism, communism, Islamic supremacism (statism). But let us never sacrifice American lives. (paraphrasing Ayn Rand)

More than 5,000 Killed, Wounded, Kidnapped Trying to Rebuild Afghanistan

In first ever public account, US reveals human cost of multi-billion effort to rebuild Afghanistan

By Washington Free Beacon, February 11, 2020:

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More than 5,000 Americans, Afghans, and coalition service members have been killed, wounded, or kidnapped in Afghanistan since the United States began its multibillion-dollar rebuilding effort in 2002.

In the government’s first public accounting of the human cost of rebuilding Afghanistan, U.S. officials conservatively estimate that 5,135 have been killed or wounded in the 18 years since rebuilding and stabilization missions began in Afghanistan. The statistics are recorded in a report from the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction, or SIGAR.

The total number of casualties “includes 2,214 killed and 2,921 wounded.” The report also “identified 1,182 individuals that were kidnapped or went missing.” The oversight organization billed its findings as the “first official accounting by an independent inspector general of the human costs of reconstruction and stabilization in Afghanistan.”

The newly released statistics are likely to anger opponents of America’s ongoing reconstruction efforts in Afghanistan. Despite the billions of taxpayer dollars poured into the reconstruction effort, the United States still has little to show for its investment.

“Unless the U.S. Government considers the human costs, the true costs of reconstruction and stabilization efforts in Afghanistan are not accurately captured,” SIGAR concluded in its report.

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felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago

Forgive me men and women in the miltary but … NO MUSLIM IS or WAS WORTH THIS. You are too valuable for this. Some paid for it with their lives and others had their lives permanetly altered and we got the bill for it. How could Presidents prior to Trump do this to our military?

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Oh, the little evangelist, yiyi, rears her ugly and poorly educated head, once again. I truly pity her.

santashandler
santashandler
4 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

“If Jesus Christ, the epitome of perfect virtue, could die for you, a
worthless sinner, surely American soldiers should die for worthless
Muslims, no” WTF? Since you’re not a Christian, as you say, there is not point in trying to even reason with you. On any level. Your analogy that American soldiers should die for muslims, is way off. You have no idea what you are talking about. If you are going to spout off against Christianity, get your facts straight first. You look foolish. But, if that’s your goal…….

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  santashandler

Hi, santashandler. She’s just an evangelist on the rag. When she starts her cycle, her evangelism picks up.

santashandler
santashandler
4 years ago

Yes, quite the train wreck…..

created4el
created4el
4 years ago

She/it is no Christian evangelist. What she spouted was some nonsense that had nothing to do with Christianity or Christian belief.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  created4el

If you can follow a thread, you shall readily see that she’s an evangelist for the Religion of Atheism. Moreover, within this thread, she has been called such.

created4el
created4el
4 years ago

LOL! I did follow the thread… but I “assumed” that you meant evangelist for Christianity… my bad… 🙂

I hadn’t ever heard anybody refer to someone as an evangelist for atheism. LOL!

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  created4el

There is NO evangelist as fierce and fiery as an evangelist for The Religion of Atheism.
I know quite a few people that claim to be atheists. Most are rather nice people and don’t wear their religion on their sleeve. If the subject of religion arises, they simply answer that they’re an atheist and that’s as far as it goes. However, that religion’s evangelists are pushy … FAR more so than a Jehovah’s Witness or morman.

created4el
created4el
4 years ago

I have referred to atheist apologists as apologists and militant atheists and religious atheists… just never evangelists… LOL! Perhaps because evangel or more specifically the Greek word it comes from, εὐαγγέλιον (euangelion), specifically means good news. or the Gospel. Atheists aren’t spreading any good news.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  created4el

That’s going back to original meaning and context. No one has more fire and brimstone enthusiasm than an evangelist of the Religion of Atheism.
I knew an atheist that was ALWAYS preaching. I started calling him Reverend Billy Sunday …. it really torqued him off. Every time we’d see him, we’d see who could make him turn bright red first. Hallelujah, Brother Sunday!

created4el
created4el
4 years ago

” I started calling him Reverend Billy Sunday …. it really torqued him off.”
LOL!

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Hello again, little yiyi. A comment, that you left seemed to disappear. Therefore, it should be reposted, in its entirety:
“Your contempt for Negros and women has been duly noted. Do you stick your wife and daughters, in the basement while they menstruate?
What are you doing on a website run by a bleeder that loves Ayn Rand?”
That is exactly the type of “comment” that would be expected from a little bigoted racist, such as you. First, little one, the plural of negro has an “e”, ergo “negroes”. Your exceedingly low level of education is, once again, glaringly obvious.
Moreover, when have I shown any contempt for women? I DO have contempt for women evangelists, such as you, that possess an intellect below that of an aphid. But the VAST majority of women are FAR more intelligent and better educated than you, little one.
Actually, in your case, it’s not nearly so much contempt as it is pity. I truly pity you. You poor, poor little thing.

Austurias
Austurias
4 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Jesus taught people to turn away from sin and to follow him. This concept has eluded the thinking of the USA . It is supporting them to live in their erroneous Islamic ways and then supplying them with troops and money to achieve this bogus outcome – colossal waste of everything. Perhaps if they were given the opportunity, and were sincere to reject Sharia and embrace the West, THEN they might actually be worth dying for. Anything else is pissing in the wind.

MAS
MAS
4 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

“But you’ve blocked me, because you want to live in your safe space, you want to live in your echo chamber. Your beliefs must never be challenged. Isn’t that the same mindset as the Left?”

And yet here you are, proselytizing, even though you seem know Felix has blocked you.

Allow me to ask you a question. If Felix could prove that Jesus was crucified, dead, buried, and resurrected to heaven (all as Lord) would you submit your entire life to Him?

MAS
MAS
4 years ago
Reply to  MAS

Can you shorten your screed to, say, just a simple yes or no? You know how ignorant and simple minded us Christians are…

MAS
MAS
4 years ago
Reply to  MAS

Now I see why Felix blocked you, add me to your list. Deal with it or don’t…

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  MAS

Our little evangelist, of The Religion of Atheism, PROMISED to block me quite some time ago. The poor little thing didn’t. Would you actually expect honesty out of little yiyi? I truly pity that thing.

MAS
MAS
4 years ago

Ah well, even atheists have their missionaries…

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  MAS

It’s not their missionaries that bother me. More power to ’em. It’s their evangelists. If they had decorum and manners, I wouldn’t mind them, either.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  MAS

Cogito ergo sum. The beginning syllogism of Descartes proof of the existence of God. Unfortunately, you simply do not have the intellect to make it beyond page two. You poor, poor little thing. How I pity you.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  MAS

Funny how the only atheist states were and still are totalitarian nightmares.

Phil McDonald
Phil McDonald
4 years ago

The cost to simply have Afghanistan impose Sharia Law as it’s constitution, makes the entire USA effort worthless.

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil McDonald

Doesn’t containment just drag it out longer with the same result? More money, more lives at risk or lost and we get the bill for all of it. Drones are human operated so you need people over there etc…

We keep banging our head against a wall presuming THEY want freedom and a democracy. ISLAM is NOT compatible with either one. Worse yet, they don’t want it either.

The Arab spring has awakened fundamental Islam. ISLAM is what they want and that includes Sharia Law. You can’t put a round peg in a square hole. Even if some do want a secular government with some freedom, their elites don’t want it.

We need to cut our loses and MOVE ON! How much money and lives do we want to squander over dumb inbred people that hate you and/or don’t want what you have to offer? Muslims are not normal people!

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil McDonald

After Afghanistain was “liberated” from the Taliban a convert to Christianity was sentenced to die for apostasy. Karsai and his government were forced to declare the Christian convert insane to avoid imposing the death penalty for apostasy on the man. Whatever happened to the Christian convert I never found out, but I doubt he’s still breathing.

SFTOBEY
SFTOBEY
4 years ago

He was spirited out of that schiff-hole, supposedly for “treatment”. Bottom line: he is no longer there.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  SFTOBEY

I’m glad to hear that.

TD
TD
4 years ago

Sometimes there is a third option: CONTAINMENT

It doesn’t have to be a direct war because of Nation Building; but it does NOT have to be a “surrender-withdrawal” either unlike the Russians did in the 1980s. CONTAINMENT AND AUTOMATION is the other option.

Automate with drones instead of troops. enforce TRAVEL BANS on Afghanistan and PAKISTAN. Control the borders to prevent outside actors from taking advantage like ISIS did when Obama withdrew in Iraq.

establish NO-FLY ZONES, do whatever. no one comes in or goes out. Use drones to “fumigate” the roaches when needed. Turn it into an automated kill-box.

Like a lot of things, “controlling the border” and “building walls” (so to speak) could be a solution.

I wouldn’t even announce deadlines.

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago
Reply to  TD

Why should we be their policeman over there?
What’s in it for us?
More lives lost and maimed? More debt? More military spending for THEM?

How about just moving on, no more of their “refugees” except Christians, a travel ban and no VISAS or more immigration – chain or otherwise from these countries? I am personally tired of spending money building WALLS for them when we need a WALL COMPLETED here. Let them build their own wall. Let Europe have the “refugees” – they WANT them.

Don’t misunderstand my reply to you. I am not angry with you or anything like that. I’m just frustrated and want our involvement there to end and to move on. Let other Arab countries deal with them. Let them fight it out.

CreoleGumbo
CreoleGumbo
4 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

“…no more of their “refugees” except Christians”

And how do you tell the difference?

MAS
MAS
4 years ago
Reply to  CreoleGumbo

Well, one side wants you to convert or they’ll kill you, the other just hopes you’ll convert or they’ll be saddened and disappointed. I’ll let you work out which ones they are…

CreoleGumbo
CreoleGumbo
4 years ago
Reply to  MAS

Let me word it a little differently:
How do you know that the person in front of you is a Muslim telling you that s/he is a Christian or a Christian telling you s/he is a Christian?
There are no physical traits that differentiate the two that would allow you to know.
And don’t forget that Muslims consider lying in order to further Islam as a virtue. It is called taqiyya.

Remember Barack Obama? He claims to be a Christian in spite of the fact that his school records from Indonesia identify him as a Muslim and in spite of the fact that he uses Hussein as a middle name.

I was in Iran in December 2008 and mentioned to my Muslim hosts that Obama claims to be a Christian. They fell out laughing and said that he was clearly practicing taqiyya. Why? Because his use of Hussain is an announcement of the fact that he is a Muslim. It is a way of telling Muslims that you are one of them.

MAS
MAS
4 years ago
Reply to  CreoleGumbo

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Identifying actual Christians is a challenging task, even inside our churches. Deport when they’re caught in taqiyya or kitman. It’s all a moot point anyway as we’re stuck with an enemy religion dwelling among us…

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  TD

The only workable alternative is total, and complete, destruction. Burn gannyland, to the ground, along with all creatures, and subcreatures (moslems) in it. Leave nothing standing and not one thing left alive.
That is THE ONLY solution.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago

General Curtis LeMay’s suggested policy for N. Vietnam might be a good ‘un: ‘bomb them back into the Stone Age.’ Although the f’ing muslum troglodytes might not even notice the difference.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago

Actually, wouldn’t that be a vast improvement?

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago

I always wanted to ask you what you thought of the firebombing and dropping of nukes on JP during WW2?

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago

War is war. Until there is unconditional surrender, you have to kill, kill, and kill.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago

Wow, I never expected that coming from you. I suppose it’s better than more US Marines and GI’s dying on the beaches of Japan’s home islands.
Some people have proposed that giving the Japanese a personal demonstration of the detonation of an A-bomb might have been sufficient to make them surrender, but considering the rabid nature of the Japanese military government there I doubt it would’ve worked.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago

They had three days, to surrender, between Hiroshima and Nagasaki. If Hiroshima didn’t convince them, it’s highly unlikely that a “demonstration” would have.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago

I hope this doesn’t affect your charter membership in the Nippon Master Race!

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago

Hayull, son. I’m not even accepted into the West European race. It’s like clubs. I wouldn’t join one that had such low standards as to accept me as a member.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago

At least JP is still a decent country and to keep it that way they better be mighty selective about who is allowed to immigrate to their country and who to direct to swim back to whatever hellhole they came from.
I remember back when I was a kid most gardeners were Japanese in SoCal, which I thought strange.
I was the only kid in my entire elementary school who had a nearly top-of-the-line Pachinko machine thanks to my Japanophile grandmother (she was a master of making those little pine trees [bonsai?]). I was really popular in my elementary school for a while off my Japanese pinball machine.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago

My wife’s a bonsai freak. Twisted trees, inside and OUTSIDE of the house. Wire everywhere. Those japaners just can’t leave nature alone.

Don39
Don39
4 years ago

or BE KILLED!

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
4 years ago
Reply to  Don39

Think about the wisdom of the ancients. Committing treason, being a traitor, resulted in the death of the entire family, for three generations.

Larry
Larry
4 years ago
Reply to  TD

TS, how does this destroy the enemy’s will to resist, considering that Islamic beliefs give them a strong will to resist?

John Acord
John Acord
4 years ago
Reply to  TD

A great idea but let’s also remove the Muslims from the Americas, Europe, West Bank, Lebanon and dump them into the Islamic Containment Area.” An area of the earth reserved for those who practice Islam where they can enjoy each other’s company as they impose and live under Sharia law. That should solve the problem. MUSXIT NOW!

Halal Bacon
Halal Bacon
4 years ago

proof that virtue signalling is deadly

cylde
cylde
4 years ago

Our nation building should consist of first totally destroying enemy nations and let them rebuild better on the ashes.

felix1999
felix1999
4 years ago
Reply to  cylde

Then just nuke them and be done with them. Do the world a favor and eliminate the scourge. Seriously, we just need to move on and let other Muslim countries deal with their MUSLIM problems that have been going on for centuries.

Larry
Larry
4 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Trouble is, felix, on 9-11 they brought their problems to us. We were trying to make sure they wouldn’t be able to do it again. However, unless one has read the Koran and understands it, one will fail to defeat them. In short, “we” failed to understand the enemy. (and with the current state of affairs at West Point and the Pentagon, it looks like they are no closer to understanding it.)

Larry
Larry
4 years ago

It’s a fool’s errand to try to make an Islamic country democratic without destroying Islam. We need to apply Marxist cultural revolution techniques to Islamic countries. The aim of war should be to destroy the enemy’s will to resist. If you don’t undermine Islam, you are not going to win. We went to war with the wrong goal.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago

While Dr. Bill Warner does discuss political islam he doesn’t in anyway believe it can be separated from islum.

durabo
durabo
4 years ago

Those ungrateful sand bunnies are still engaged in “green-on-blue” attacks. Why do we have to be the world’s police force? These bastards are not worth the life of a single US service member. Bring back our troops, and let the goat-shaggers eat sand!

MAS
MAS
4 years ago

“More than 5,000 Americans Killed, Wounded, Kidnapped Trying to Rebuild Afghanistan”

It’s a fool’s errand to try nation building in a Muslim tribal culture nation. Probably even a Darwin’s list level of cluelessness…

Don39
Don39
4 years ago

What besides CIA control of the opium trade do we have or need in this camel dung country?

SFTOBEY
SFTOBEY
4 years ago
Reply to  Don39

Apparently, that schiff-hole country is loaded with rare-earth minerals that the chi-coms very much want to get their hands on. I say, let them go ahead and have fun there.

volksnut
volksnut
4 years ago

its a can of worms no matter how you look at it – rebuilding a country in our image does’nt work especially an islamic one

dad1927
dad1927
4 years ago

let it go…. get out

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