[ April 23, 2024 ]
The lengths rational Americans must go through to get away from left-wing mooching and looting.
A Ballot-Initiative to Move Some Eastern Oregon Counties to Idaho Is Actually Gaining Some Traction
By Rick Moran PJM, February 18, 2020
A push to include a referendum that would approve a move by several eastern Oregon counties to Idaho is underway and may be gaining some traction.
Story continues below advertisementAlthough unlikely to succeed, the effort to have a vote on the issue is proof of great unhappiness in the rural parts of the state that are becoming more resentful of the far-left policies being adopted in Salem. The state’s largest city, Portland, is a far-left bastion and dominates politics in the state.
We see similar movements in California and Washington, where largely rural people are rebelling against what they see are radical cultural changes being forced on them that they don’t want.
“We’re picking up momentum,” McCarter says. “It takes a lot of oomph to get something like this started. I call it a peaceful revolution.”
The group wants to have initiatives on the ballot of every eastern Oregon county this fall.
“Our approach is to go county by county rather than a state initiative,” McCarter adds. “We want people [in the counties that would move to Idaho] to chime in and say, ‘Yes, we want this.’ It takes more work to go county by county, but it informs the public more.”
In Oregon, two counties have already given the nod for a referendum to be included on the November ballot that would separate them from the state of Oregon. But even if they are successful and the ballot proposal succeeds, they would still need the permission of the state and the U.S. Congress for their dream to become a reality.
And there are other issues as well.
“It’s a lifestyle/values judgment between urban and rural more than anything else,” he insists. He says many residents of rural Oregon “aren’t as conservative as me” but still see the benefits of being part of a more rural-minded state like Idaho.
He and Gottschalk acknowledge there are a lot of questions eastern-Oregon voters would need to chew on, such as schools funding (Oregon spends more per student than Idaho) and the advantages/drawbacks of a sales tax (Idaho has one, Oregon doesn’t) and an estate tax (Oregon has one, Idaho doesn’t).
He admits the Oregon counties would have to accept that they’d likely receive fewer services from the state if they jumped to Idaho. But this also could be one of the reasons Oregon might be willing to let them go.
Like many rural areas, eastern Oregon has been hurting to the point where more people than in urban areas have to go on public assistance to live. This gives an incentive to Salem to allow the wayward children to depart in peace.
But what happens to people in those counties who like Oregon and want to stay? Unless the vote is overwhelming for secession, there’s going to be trouble.
To those who pooh-pooh the idea as crazy, they said the same thing in the late 1760s when some crazy colonists got it in their heads they could actually secede from England.
In America, anything is possible.
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18 Comments
4 years ago
The states need a county by county electoral college system. That’s how to get around the tyranny of the majority leftist cities impose.
Oh and there’s a chunk of Northern California included on that map…
4 years ago
I hope for their sake they do. The large cities are drowning out rational voters. DEMS are playing all kinds of games to dictate who is elected. Do DEMS that voted understand what is going on? DEMS are typically uninformed and dumb and the elites exploit that fact.
Washington Post Op-ed: ‘Give the Elites a Bigger Say in Choosing the President’
JOEL B. POLLAK 19 Feb 2020
The Washington Post is taking criticism for an op-ed published Tuesday by Marquette University political science professor Julia Azari, titled: “It’s time to give the elites a bigger say in choosing the president.
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Azari suggests that the parties should use what she calls “preference primaries,” which would “allow voters to rank their choices among candidates, as well as to register opinions about their issue priorities.”
After a perfunctory voting process, wlites would be able to choose a nominee based on information about what the voters want.
She acknowledges that the idea is “labor-intensive and a little risky.”
… (It’s called rigging the outcome.)
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/02/19/washington-post-op-ed-give-the-elites-a-bigger-say-in-choosing-the-president/
In Maine a Republican WON the majority for a seat and had it taken away by a DEM via ranking. So the liberal elites got their way. With this chicanery there is little point in voting. The elites are chosing your candidate in the open while LYING about it. They are obfuscating YOUR vote with ranking. The ELITES think DEMS are DUMB and shouldn’t be choosing the candidate but wish to give you the illusion you are being heard.
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
Yup, I live in Portland, Maine. your dead right, and whats even worse, we had an election not long ago for Mayor here, and managed to get rid of Ethan Strimling, one of the worst Democrat Mayors we ever had, but the problem was, we just got him replaced by another Democrat. Guess why? Was nothing running for Mayor but Democrats. Yeah, sad as hell, not one damn Conservative at all to step up. Pretty hard to gain any ground around here when you have nobody to vote for…..
4 years ago
THE RURAL FARMING AREAS NEED TO STOP FEEDING THE CITY ELITIST AREAS,……. they’ll collapse faster than a Mitt Romney Presidential bid !!
4 years ago
That leaves one question: What are they going to do with all the malignant muslims “obama” dumped on them?
4 years ago
Reply to
Chris Wolf
Round them up. Drag them to the public square. And, have them hanged by the neck until dead.
4 years ago
Reply to
Chris Wolf
RICO-M3
Use a small army of CPAs and attorneys to investigate every jihad attack. Follow 100% of the money back to its source. Track anyone involved, in any way. Then use the RICO statutes to jail, confiscated, and shut down all involved. That includes:
M1 – Shutting down mosques involved in any jihad attack.
M2 – Arrest mullahs involved.
M3 – Follow, and confiscate, all jihad money back to its source.
Read it all: https://rico-m3.blogspot.com/
4 years ago
“I call it a peaceful revolution.”
Isn’t that cute?
Actually it’s ‘Elitism Bullying”
‘Surround yourself with only people who will propel you forward in your POLITICS‘
4 years ago
I am a supporter of the State of Jefferson project. This will take most of Northern California and Southern Oregon and form a new state. A bunch of Nor Cal counties have voted to secede. Jefferson will become the Singapora of North America. A continuous boom town.
4 years ago
We in Washington would like to split the state. S**t Seattle crazy liberals dictate and elect the nutcases that rule the entire state. Wish it would happen
4 years ago
You people have a lot to learn about Oregon… The Democrats…
and their Super Majority.
Here in Oregon when the Voters are given their Choice on a Subject with the Vote… If the Rulers Don’t like the Outcome of the Vote…
THEY JUST IGNORE IT…THEY HAVE DONE THAT MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE LAST FEW YEARS !
4 years ago
Many Washington State counties need to be included. The communists, I mean liberals, I mean democrats here on the west side are absolutely bat$h!t crazy and control all 3 branches of govt…for the entire state! I think their goal is to out-Californicate even California.
4 years ago
I would like to make Montana greater by extending the border into Canada up to where I live.
4 years ago
And I’m still praying for Mr. Trump to buy Canada so he can FIRE our PM. Go Trump !!!!
4 years ago
This is true in a lot of States. The big liberal run cities with the large population generally rule the legislature, and therefore the State. If they can gerrymander voting districts, why not State lines? Not every ten years, of course, but in the case of Oregon and Washington State, I support the idea. The people in eastern Oregon are not getting the representation they have a right to expect.
