The Chinese government is notoriously (and dangerously) secretive so we cannot know the true number of sick and dying. Whatever numbers are coming out of China, they’re wrong. The MO of the Chinese is cover-up.
Here’s the latest (previous coverage here).
Coronavirus outbreak closes Shanghai Disneyland and other China tourist destinations. The coronavirus outbreak has forced the closure of tourist destinations across China during the Lunar New Year when hundreds of millions of Chinese travel domestically and internationally.
CORONAVIRUS: Photos of Infected People Dead in Streets in China, Death Toll Spikes
Disturbing new video shows dead bodies piling up in the hallways of a hospital in China, as the coronavirus outbreak continues to spiral out of control. (NYP)
The images from inside Red Cross Hospital in Wuhan, the city at the epicenter of the deadly viral outbreak, show covered bodies lining corridors as staffers and patients walk about with masks on their face.
(Image: Twitter)
China’s Coronavirus is Much Worse Than You Think
Disturbing images of Wuhan residents dropping unresponsive to the floor have emerged on Instagram following the diseased Chinese city’s coronavirus lockdown.
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Chinese president warns of ‘grave situation’
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Here’s an overview of the developments so far:
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41 Dead…….?
How many additional zeros would make that number more accurate?
Give it a couple weeks…
The poor people, a pandemic and totalitarian government. They’ll be too proud to ask for help and their own people will suffer more…
just watch the movements of the DC elites if you want to know if this is extreme danger or not.
sudden relocation is THE THING to watch. that goes for west coast tech titans as well.
Reminds me of Iran with downing of plane. These rogue governments don’t care about human life.
Yes, since tyrant totalitarians control all news media, they can lie all they want.
HERES SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT ABOUT 3 MONTHS AGO THE ELITE HELD A SIMULATION CONFERENCE IN NEW YORK THEIR FINDINGS WERE THAT AROUND 65 MILLION WOULD BE KILLED IF AN ‘unknown virus ‘ WENT PANDEMIC.
A reference would be nice. Not trying to be a smart a**e. Just want to have a look at it myself.
I agree – some more info would be appreciated – there are ALOT of people sick at work –
Could it be the Chinese themselves seeing China is well overpopulated, their strange eating habits and Frankenstein animals they make using human hybrid DNA micsed with pig and monkey and rats??????
Very strange people.
There are now 5 confirmations of cases here – current flu vaccinations won’t protect you ..
The big issue is the survival rate.
We don’t know what that number is yet. Millions get colds every year, but the survival rate is extremely high, and only the very weak succumb. So we don’t worry much about colds. Even though they are very infectious.
Outside China, the survival rate for the Wuhan virus will be better than inside China, because health care is better in the West. With good detection and isolation, combined with good symptom treatments, we can beat this in the West.
In the USA, no one died from SARS, another coronavirus. Only 75 were infected, and the spread stopped when they were isolated and treated. The SARS virus had nowhere to live, so it died out.
Don’t kid yourself about the west. Have you ever seen a hospital or many hospitals drowning in patients after a major disaster and for this one there is NO vaccine or any other than supportive treatment. If the number is few you are quite correct. If it explodes in the west we will be overwhelmed. Th massive if late response of the Chicoms, the fact that it is the Chinese new year plus the fact that many expatriates have entered China to visit ancestral villages etc,. mans that many with it are already out in the west and infectious. I don’t know the story of this virus but I doubt that you are only infectious when you are ill as there always seems to a prodromal period when you are but not yet ill.
Incubation is about 2 to 16 days. I don’t know the duration of the infectious period.
That’s another problem. When they dump these people at large airports here, they could already have it with out the fever. Or if they have it, take Advil or something like that to lower their temperature and bring it here while contaminating others on the plane or public transportation.
Yes, early identification of Wuhan virus-infected people will be difficult. Some infected patients do not have fever. With smallpox and other previous epidemics, travelers from infectious regions were sometimes quarantined until the incubation period had passed.
Reports indicate people are infectious before they exhibit symptoms. For how many days before they exhibit is still speculative.
Ro of 4.6 double of sars that’s with initial data, projected to be 6.5 or higher 1million infected in 10 days
Yes, Ro refers to the number that each patient infects: the infection rate. Survival rate refers to the number who survive the illness. Both of these can be influenced by better care. Quarantine and isolation are used to reduce the infection rate, and better medical treatment for symptoms is used to increase the survival rate.
China is having trouble with both, because their quarantine methods are inadequate. In the smallpox epidemics in Western countries, workers went from house to house, to find sick people and get them into treatment. That improved both the infection rates and the survival rates. Smallpox is now extinct, except a few high security labs.
China is having trouble because they knew of this outbreak in NOV 2019, + did nothing till 10K died, according to people in Wuhan.
The, so called, Spanish Flu of 1918 had the highest mortality in the younger population. It started in the Spring with a mild epidemic with a high survivability rate. It returned in the Fall (mutation?) with a vengeance. It infected 500 million people and killed about 50 million (from 30 to 100 million estimated) And all this took place BEFORE the introduction of super fast world travel by jet plane. Even the Inuit tribe in Alaska was found infected. It was the most lethal event ever experienced by homo sapiens in the history of Planet Earth. Just saying.
Just the on site survey work required to know where to excavate on the multi-acre “hospital” site would take a week or longer, never mind the site plan prep needed for utilities and foundation work. It is more likely the excavation is for mass graves as others have suggested. But that would be difficult to hide from aerial/satellite surveillance. Fascinating.
The Wuhan virus is already much worse than the H1N1 flu virus. The mortality rate for flu in the USA actually declined that year.
Cui bono? [who benefits?]. Maybe the Chinese Communist Party, since they are interested in depopulation. This will become evident in how well the ChiComs handle the epidemic.
the Chinese party is probably interested in plaguing Hong Kong… Coronavirus = No more protest in Hong Kong
In October 2009, I somehow contracted H1N1, which also originated in China. Being a lifelong asthmatic the virus hit me hard. Within 24 hours I was put in an induced coma and placed on a ventilator in the ICU. It was touch and go for 3 days and really hard going for several weeks after. Needless to say, I recovered from the illness, but it took more than 6 months for me say that I felt relatively normal.
This new coronavirus scares the hell out of me.
Make sure you have a good NIOSH – N95 face mask ready. Home Depot has them in the paint dept., also at pharmacies, about $1 each.
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/RespSource.html
That sounds like good advice.
A NIOSH – N95 face mask is especially important for people who have pre-existing vulnerabilities, like a history of pneumonia. “Surgical face masks” block germs in exhaled air, but the NIOSH – N95 masks block 95% of the germs in inhaled air, including the droplets from coughs and sneezes. If things get really bad, the NIOSH – N95 masks might get sold out.
That is frightening!
Glad to see you recovered. Be careful where you go to avoid getting this one.
What you went through is horrible.
Not if it is under canvas or plastic tents.
The first cases have now occurred in France.
Walking people who suddenly drop usually have either a cardiac malfunction or a nervous system one (sure there are others but less common). If the reports of bloody sputum are correct , it is a haemorrhagic virus like Ebola and they have probably had a cerebral bleed, Very nasty.
Michelle: Happy New Year!
– Wuhan virus is just a respiratory flu-like illness, like SARS was. I question the stories about people dropping dead. If a person can’t breathe, then their heart could stop. But they could not walk either.
SARS was deadly. I don’t know how deadly this one is. Are people flopping over for not getting medical attention in time? Or even with prompt medical death ensues?
SARS actually caused zero mortalities in the USA. It was dangerous, but it was contained and extinguished. The Wuhan virus is not as contained as well.
I think I read that elsewhere it caused more fatalities. Our healthcare is superior to countries close to where it originated.
I am glad unlike Obama, Trump is not flying infected non citizens into our country and in our hospitals to pass it along in our hospitals and run up costs that WE had to absorb. Then they didn’t leave. They STAYED here.
SARS was first reported in China, and was a coronavirus. There were 8,098 SARS cases, of whom 774 died. More than 7,000 of those cases and about 650 of the deaths occurred in Mainland China and Hong Kong. The US had 75 cases and zero deaths. Then the disease simply disappeared.
I’m not sure the stories about people dropping dead are true. In China, some are fainting on the streets, and in hospital corridors, but they are not dead. For sure, not enough are getting prompt treatment.
Thank you! I watched several videos (here and elsewhere) and you do not fall flat on your face without attempting to break the fall unless it is soft snow(been there plenty). These people just suddenly keeled over while walking and absolutely face planted onto concrete. Now they walked normally then dropped. that is NOT merely a respiratory virus. That sudden loss of consciousness does not fit in with that. If you also look at the bloody sputum reports it is scary. A dry cough can give slightly bloodstained sputum but coughing up frank blood with or without clots is bad news.
I’m not sure the stories about people dropping dead are true. Coronaviruses usually cause respiratory problems, and this can cause fainting, if the person can’t breathe properly, and then their heart gets weak. That may be what we are seeing in the videos. For sure, people who faint on the street are quite sick.
If you watch how some of them walk it is normal walking before the collapse NOT staggering. Much as I would like to believe in and hope about what you post the statements about bloody sputum and sudden death are not coronaviral but Ebola characteristics. Ebola is not very contagious unless you are a fool but a coronavirus is incredibly so and both live in fruit bats. If those reports continue we may actually have a bioweapon running amok. The absolute test will be if members of the politburo die because on the case of a weapon they would be immunized already BUT if it escaped prematurely there would be no vaccine. As the level 4 biolabs have only been up and running for a few years (if that)it is far too soon to have safe vaccine made from a dangerous bioweapon.
For sure, China is in trouble. Please see the video that I posted on this comment thread. They are not doing enough, fast enough, to keep ahead of this. It must be squelched at the beginning, because the number of cases increase exponentially, very quickly.
Too late for a nuke to sterilize the area as the virus has escaped.
Step one: shut down any and all travel to and from China. Two: don’t allow anyone in who was in China over the past three weeks (incubation is supposedly two weeks). Three: close down all international travel if this is declared a pandemic and keep it so until it is no longer a threat to humanity.
Four: Get new leadership for WHO so they will do their job instead acting as the world’s Super Chamber of Commerce with their #1 priority being world health and not world commerce and tourism.
You can not trust or believe the Chinese. If they are finally admitting to that, it must be really bad. They are very secretive, love to screw countries over with predatory loans they know won’t be paid back and confiscate assets in the country as well as outright lying to other countries about issues.
That said, why would ANYONE go with Chinese 5G technology? The Chinese will use this to SPY on 5G signed up countries, compromise our Five Eyes international intelligence sharing and possibly sabotage plans. China would be spying on western countries. France and Germany already signed on to 5G. I hope the UK reconsiders going with 5G. You don’t want China dominating in that area – it’s dangerous. The communist Chinese are very sensitive people…and like the totalitarian left here, have no sense of humor. China doesn’t have a MUSLIM TERRORISM problem….the west does!
China Jails Student For Tweets Sent in US Showing President as
The Pooh
2020-01-23 — A student who tweeted a cartoon of Winnie the Pooh in connection with President Xi Jinping while studying in the U.S. was jailed for six months on his return to China for the summer vacation last year. …
https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/china/2020/china-200123-rfa01.htm
(Many MORE examples of Chinese students in the U.S. jailed for negative comments on social media against Xi or China at the link below. They SPY on them while they are in the U.S.. When they return home is when they are tried and jailed. This shows how they LOVE to spy on their own people. Imagine the fun they could have spying on other countries with sensitive infomation!)
Chinese Artist Arrested for Joke Images of President Xi Jinxing
By Henri Neuendorf, June 1, 2015
The Shanghai artist Dai Jianyong fell foul of Chinese authorities for depicting President Xi Jinping sporting a large mustache and scrunching up his face, the Independent reported.
Dai called the picture Chrysanthemum Face—the flower is a slang word for anus in China. The image is part of a series in which the artist takes pictures of himself and others distorting their faces. Ai Weiwei faces up to five years in prison….
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https://news.artnet.com/art-world/china-artist-arrested-mocking-president-xi-jinping-303088
I think that we all well know what the ChiComs are about and about their honesty(sic!) and integrity(sic!).
The government is lying, more than 90,000 people had died in Hubei. The person-to-person base is 1 to 14, meaning one person infects 14 (90,000 = 1.26 million = 17.64 million = 246 million). The virus is mutating and spreading explosively. According to this medical personnel in Wuhan the virus surpassed stage 2, already out of control to cure. — check YB video titled CORONAVIRUS – MEDICAL STAFF SAY STAGE 2 REACHED 90,000 DEAD.
Chinese goods need to be banned, and all flihgts to and from China needs to be blocked.
But will the coronavirus kill as many people as Chairman Mao did? Mao killed more Chinese than Imperial Japan did!
yes about 1000 x more in the 1950s (60 million is the lowest estimate…as they could not beat the Kuomintang entirely they just starved the provinces who supported them) and close to that in the “cultural” revolution of the 1960s. In china an individual has never had any value unless a communist official or rich or both.
Canada: Chinese researcher escorted from infectious disease lab amid RCMP investigation …this was in 2019.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-national-microbiology-lab-amidst-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567
Chinese govt knew about this outbreak since NOV 2019, according to locals.
Gee, and what will that do the Hong Kong protests spreading around the country, or the demonstrations about the economy or ….
Never let a virus go to waste to lock down protests.
Putting undiagnosed people on a commercial aircraft and having them breathe each other’s air can’t be a good idea.
PirBright Institute, 2015 patent as a antivirus, funded by Gates Foundation among others, ????do some research, don’t believe everything you hear on the news. Bats cats snakes oh my, yeah right….
Someone posted here a report about a patented attenuated virus….that IS a vaccine as is probably that one
May be Xi should start worship Shang Di rather than communism.
How do you build a hospital in 10 days?
Military hospitals are created to be erected even more quickly than in 10 days
I wonder if the coronavirus was made in a lab in China…
Evidence now that the virus is infectious up to two weeks before symptoms…check Breitbart.
It looks like China is worried about this more than the numbers say. Quarantine people so they might worry about food sounds like panic and not just a routine yearly flu virus. Expert says it is fatal 1 in 25 cases. Check this out ???? https://www.wral.com/unc-researcher-found-deadly-virus-in-bats-in-china-in-2015/18913313/?ref_id=18912862
Chinese flights coming into Tijuana and only ‘just started’ screening even though incubation period seems to be undetermined and infectious period is still when no symptoms are present. Democrats still justify open borders.
It’s funny that the media prefers impeachment sham reporting and other retarded stuff to maybe the worst global plague in history. Ralph Baric is a Coronavirus expert and he is worried that it kills 1 in 25 and will spread globally. I posted a link an hour ago.