[ April 24, 2024 ]
For a reason the mullahs will never understand…… “casualties could be up to 150 people.” Planes were scrambled and ships moved into position for an attack early Friday morning, but they ultimately got the order to stand down.
The United States was preparing on Thursday night to launch multiple retaliatory strikes against Iran for shooting down an American spy drone near the Strait of Hormuz, but abruptly stood down, according to anonymous senior administration officials.An operation to attack a list of Iranian targets, including radar and missile batteries, was in its early stages as late as 7 p.m. amid intense debate and strategizing at the White House, the officials said.
Planes were scrambled and ships moved into position for an attack early Friday morning, but were ultimately told to cancel what would have been U.S. President Donald Trump’s third military action in the Middle East. The Trump administration struck targets in Syria in 2017 and 2018. According to The New York Times, which cited anonymous senior administration officials, Trump called off the strikes.
Story continues below advertisementOn Thursday morning, an Iranian surface-to-air missile shot down a $130 million U.S. surveillance drone. Iran claimed that the aircraft was in Iranian airspace at the time, but U.S. officials said it was above the Strait of Hormuz in international airspace when it was attacked.
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1142118878304231426
President Donald Trump confirmed Friday he pulled back a military strike on Iran after he learned the number of possible casualties.
“We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on three different sights (sic),” Trump revealed on Twitter. The attack was planned in retaliation for Iran shooting down a U.S. surveillance drone on Thursday in international waters.
By Charles Spiering, Breitbart, June 20, 2019;
Trump said prior to the strikes he was told by a general the casualties could be up to 150 people.
“Ten minutes before the strike I stopped it, not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone,” he wrote.
Trump added that he was in “no hurry” for additional military conflicts with Iran but warned them against obtaining a nuclear weapon.
The president recalled the recent history of the United States relationship with Iran noting that former President Barack Obama “made a desperate and terrible deal” that included over a billion in cash.
“Iran was in big trouble and he bailed them out,” Trump said. “Gave them a free path to Nuclear Weapons, and SOON.”
The president added that Iran continued to shout “Death to America” despite the deal, which he terminated as president.
“They are a much weakened nation today than at the beginning of my Presidency, when they were causing major problems throughout the Middle East,” Trump said. “Now they are Bust!”
The president also discussed his decision on Friday afternoon in an interview with NBC’s Meet the Press.
EXCLUSIVE: In an exclusive interview with Chuck Todd, President Donald Trump says he hadn’t given final approval to Iran strikes, no planes were in the air. pic.twitter.com/qHtTx7Zql5
— Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) June 21, 2019
President Obama made a desperate and terrible deal with Iran – Gave them 150 Billion Dollars plus I.8 Billion Dollars in CASH! Iran was in big trouble and he bailed them out. Gave them a free path to Nuclear Weapons, and SOON. Instead of saying thank you, Iran yelled…..
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 21, 2019
….Death to America. I terminated deal, which was not even ratified by Congress, and imposed strong sanctions. They are a much weakened nation today than at the beginning of my Presidency, when they were causing major problems throughout the Middle East. Now they are Bust!….
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 21, 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1142055392488374272
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77 Comments
4 years ago
I have no opinion on the righteousness of the decision not to retaliate by the U.S. at this time. I do believe, though, that Iran would have preferred some attack as I believe that the leaders of that nation have concluded that they are losing support of the citizens there as their economy fails, and as many conclude that the aggressive terror is not in their best interest. Putting on more sanctions is a good alternative now, and getting the EU, and other countries to support those economic sanctions would bring Iran to its knees, requiring them to cooperate with a world that has joined together in opposition to this nation that is led by crazies. Iran would love to have been attacked, as that would turn its people back to supporting their inane leadership, and, right now, it is in our best interest to avoid letting that happen. Their citizens know that peace and co-existence is their salvation, not attempted destruction of the U.S. or Israel.
4 years ago
Reply to
Dennis
Somebody mused about how easy it would be to take Iran’s electrical grid down. No military needed. Hard to wage a war in the dark.
4 years ago
Reply to
Moya McNulty
Why? Are you hoping for a better result the second time around because the first was a disgusting mess.
4 years ago
Thank You Pamela!
– you are right again, where all other media are doing false reporting
– the NYT and a thousand other Tyrant Media are claiming
– that Trump ‘changed his mind’, was ambivalent, indecisive, etc.
– but he was careful and deliberative from the get-go, and never authorized any strike:
———————–
“EXCLUSIVE: In an exclusive interview with Chuck Todd, President Donald
Trump says he hadn’t given final approval to Iran strikes, no planes
were in the air.”
4 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Iran military budget = $15 billion
USA military budget = $733 billion
NATO military budget = $1 trillion
– Trump can afford to wait
4 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
simpleton …
warfare is more than military budget …
do u know how big Taliban’s military budget compared to US & Nato ?????
yet Taliban is winning …. LOL…….
4 years ago
Thank You Pamela!
– you are right again, where all other media are doing false reporting
– the NYT and a thousand other Tyrant Media are claiming
– that Trump ‘changed his mind’, was ambivalent, indecisive, etc.
– but he was careful and deliberative from the get-go, and never authorized any strike:
———————–
“EXCLUSIVE: In an exclusive interview with Chuck Todd, President Donald
Trump says he hadn’t given final approval to Iran strikes, no planes
were in the air.”
4 years ago
During the Libyan Gulf of Sidra incident, the U.S. airstrikes killed several Soviet “military contractors” manning the sites.
When the Russians send modern hardware to a country they will send advisor/training and operations personnel to operate and guard the site.
Trump very likely made the decision not to attack to avoid killing Russian “contractors” operating the installation.
4 years ago
Reply to
RueDeLaDeplorable
In that case Israel shouldn’t retaliate when Syrians try to shoot down Israeli jets.
4 years ago
Thank Gd-d for Donald Trump. I feared Bolton and the other war hawks would talk him into it. He asked how many men it would take, they told him and he said it wasn’t worth it. I doubt any other president ever asked that. He is definitely the best I’ve ever seen and maybe the best of all time. I wish he would get completely out. Thanks to him unleashing America we are now energy independent. We don’t need to protect oil for other countries. Let them spend their own money or suffer.
Another thing, he is the first president for a long, long time that even mentions farmers. Who would think that a billionaire from NYC would give a damn? He loves America.
4 years ago
We are in this because of that idiot illegal previous occupier and dog squeeze in the WH.
4 years ago
Reply to
E.Feldmann
Agree. But its ridiculous to say he backed out bcoz enemy combatants would get killed ! with that policy Hitler would have won WW 2 .
4 years ago
Reply to
Suresh
I don’t think he ever planned to go through with the attack. If they do it again, he’ll have to, but he’s got 2020 to worry about and most of his supporters don’t want war with Iran until it is unquestionably necessary.
4 years ago
Reply to
Elizabeth Wagner
When Iran attacked us and our allies, it wasn’t concerned about war with the U.S. In fact, they keep saying that they’re ready for war with the U.S.
This “war with Iran” talking point is like the “Hillary will start WW3” Russian troll talking point of the 2016 election. Has Israel started a war with Iran or Syria by bombing Iranian bases in Syria? No, it’s consistently enforced its red line.
4 years ago
Reply to
Elizabeth Wagner
so why did he order and attack and then withddraw ? He thinks its same as sending tweets ? LOL !
very immature way of doing business.
4 years ago
Reply to
Elizabeth Wagner
I’m really AMAZED how many GLOBAL MILITARIST “EXPERTS” we have
4 years ago
Reply to
Suresh
HE was talking about innocent HUMAN BEINGS – not “combatants” – D.J.T. has a CONSCIENCE.
The very FACT that he cancelled this enterprise shows you EXACTLY who he is!
4 years ago
Reply to
Moya McNulty
Donald Trump has a “conscience”???? Yeah, right, this shows what kind of conscience…. he’s the next Hitler!!! —
DHS Inspector General: 900 People Held at Border Facility Built for 125
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4 years ago
Reply to
Moya McNulty
Donald Trump ‘kept book of Adolf Hitler’s speeches in his bedside …
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Mar 20, 2017 – Donald Trump reportedly owned a copy of Adolf Hitler’s speeches and … Trump said he believed the businessman would find Hitler’s writings …
Rep. Mo Brooks quotes ‘Mein Kampf’ to slam Democrats over Mueller …
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Donald Trump’s ex-wife: Trump kept book of Hitler’s speeches by bed …
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Two GOP lawmakers invoke Hitler to hammer Democrats – NBC News
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Mar 26, 2019 – Two House Republicans over the last two days invoked Adolf Hitler, with one … Nazi Party in partisan Hill debate to attack opponents of President Trump. … Mo Brooks, R-Ala., drew from the German leader’s writings to attack …
4 years ago
Reply to
Kol
Jesus Christ – there’s no HOPE for you. I HAD A COPY OF MEIN KAMF by my bed when I was 14 – and EMILY DICKINSON, GEORGE ORWELL, SHAKESPEARE, KEATS, CHAUCER, BIBLE, etc.,
and many others too numerous to mention – a typical young ENGLISH girl’s reading material.
It’s about being “informed”. Like I said “IDIOTS COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK”
4 years ago
Reply to
Moya McNulty
Yes, Christians Spew the Most ‘Hateful Internet Speech’ — Charisma …
https://www.charismanews.com › Opinion › Watchman on the Wall
Jul 23, 2014 – When it comes to hateful Internet speech, Christians are the worst. That’s the headline of an article by Washington Post columnist and OnFaith ..
4 years ago
Reply to
Moya McNulty
4 years ago
Reply to
Moya McNulty
So syrian attack and attack against did not kill innocent “human beings” ?
WW 2 did not kill Innocent human beings caught in the cross fire ?
4 years ago
Reply to
Moya McNulty
Yale psychiatrist: Trump’s “lack of conscience” makes the president …
https://www.salon.com/…/yale-psychiatrist-trumps-lack-of-conscience-makes-the-presi…
Mar 12, 2019 – Donald Trump hugs the U.S. flag during CPAC 2019 on March 02, 2019 in … and others at all cost that he is not a criminal and therefore worthy of existence. … He is dangerous not only because his lack of conscience and …
4 years ago
Reply to
E.Feldmann
Agree. But its ridiculous to say he backed out bcoz enemy combatants would get killed ! with that policy Hitler would have won WW 2 .
4 years ago
Crickets at the Geller Report. Even Obama wasn’t this feckless. He retaliated when Houthis fired on U.S. ships in 2016. Imagine if Netanyahu responded to Iranian attacks this spinelessly. Did Trump get a love letter from the Ayatollah like he did from Kim Jong-un? Does anyone believe that destroying the Buk air defense system that shot down our drone would kill 150 people? How did the U.S. strike Syria and Yemen without killing 150 people? How does Israel strike Syria and Gaza without killing 150 people? You’d have to drink Trump’s Kool-Aid to believe this.
4 years ago
Reply to
RC
Trump scared the $hit out of the Mullahs. They are the reason he keeps Bolton around. He waited until they could see us on their radar to call it off, and I don’t think he planned to attack in the first place. Doing that now would cost Trump the 2020 election. A dem prez will likely provoke war with Russia, which would be much worse. Schumer was photographed high-fiving other dems in the parking lot when he thought Trump planned to attack. Iran will likely go quiet for a while. If not, Trump will give the order and mean it.
4 years ago
Reply to
Elizabeth Wagner
Yeah sure, just like Obama scared Assad with his red line. At least when Obama chickened out, he deferred to Congress and substituted a plan to get rid of Assad’s chemical weapons. Trump just made up a bogus story about 150 casualties. I thought Trump was running on strength, not weakness. All the other candidates run on weakness. Meanwhile, we’ve cancelled “war games” with South Korea to appease North Korea, and Trump whitewashed North Korea’s ballistic missile tests and even avoided saying the words “ballistic missile.”
AND we don’t have a Secretary of Defense. The new acting secretary will have all sorts of restrictions, and he’ll have to step down as acting secretary if he’s nominated, all because Trump never nominated the previous one. Mattis resigned over Trump’s plan to pull out of Syria, yet we haven’t pulled out as far as I know.
AND Trump’s chief of staff Mulvaney wants a yearlong continuing resolution to fund the government, which will result in defense cuts.
4 years ago
Reply to
RC
Unfortunately I agree with you. Trump is proving all hot air. However, I will say that in regard to knowledge of Islam, Mattis was more than an ignoramus, like H. R, McMaster and a of American generals. I don’t know what manual they are reading, but assume it was the one produced by Obama by Muslims.
4 years ago
Reply to
RC
Trump said he would move grounptroops out, and that is all he did. If all the air power is coming from Navy ships, there would be no need for support and security people.
4 years ago
Does ANY of the presidential candidates support returning fire? Anybody?
4 years ago
Reply to
RC
There is nothing other than tattered refugees out there, yearning for a home. So she might think there are like moms and dads still out there, but who knows? She can’t see them.
4 years ago
Iran wouldn’t understand avoiding casualties, huh?
“Iran said it could have shot down a US plane with people on board. The US confirms an aircraft was in the area.”
There was a P-8 surveillance aircraft operating in the area at the time Iran shot down a RQ-4 drone yesterday, a US official tells CNN. The plane was in international airspace, the official said. According to the US Navy, the P-8 aircraft is configured to carry a crew of 9 people.
Iran said there was a US plane flying near the downed RQ-4 drone, but they refrained from targeting it, according to Iran’s commander Amir Ali Hajizadeh. “While we were tracking the spy drone there was also a P-8 spy plane with 35 crew on board which we could have shot at, but we did not do so,” Hajizadeh said.
4 years ago
Millions? Haha, maybe a dozen.
4 years ago
The defection of the Iranian Intelligence chief over to the US 8 weeks ago showed that the Iranian regime was divided Mullahs Vs the IRGC military. Trump was set up in the hopes he would attack and start the US into another war. Trump was to wise to take the bait. The setup was done by Bolton’s mad desire to attack Iran which Bolton had announced America would do in 2019 over three years ago.
Trump may have to relive Bolton n order to preserve peace and focus on investigating and prosecuting the rest of the deep state snake heads. He first has to convince that Facebook, Google and Silicon valley are staging a coup against the democrats in trying o obtain a corporate takeover of America and having a few unelected billionaires control America for their own purposes by eliminating freedoms even the Democrats hold deer. Trump needs to warn America that if Facebook can silence Conservatives then they will go after everybody else next.
4 years ago
Reply to
1PierreMontagne1
Oh yes, and next time Iran does something provocative, will Donald back off again? You have no idea whether Bolton has anything to do with this incident, but parrot the type of crap served up by the Liberals who hate Bolton and loved the total pussy cat General H. R. McMaster who sympathized with Muslims and has proven it since being given the push. He was just another John Brennan-type dope.
If Trump does not retaliate against Iran the Iranians will regard him a paper tiger and continue with their terror activities.
4 years ago
Reply to
Rob Porter
Trump has retaliated brilliantly – the Iranians are now on high alert with nothing happening tha tis the most exhausting position for a weak nation on a war footing to be in.
The Mullahs and the military are divided. The Mullahs pretended a desire to bring on
Armageddon while robbing the people and socking away billions in Swiss banks. The
Basijis were formed to protect their larceny. The Iraninan Republican Guard are now
fragmented but mostly wanting to bring on Armagedden to Herald in their Islamic
Saviour but it aint funny when you got no money. The real God of the universe had
Irans Chief of Intelligence defect to America two and a half months ago. So Trump
really does knows everything he needs to know.
4 years ago
Reply to
1PierreMontagne1
You made a good point when reminding me that Irans Chief of Intelligence defect to America two and a half months ago. Little doubt Trump will have learnt a considerable amount about Iran through this man.
4 years ago
Reply to
Rob Porter
“Taqiyya”: How An Obscure Islamic Concept Became An Obsession Of …
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ishmaeldaro/taqiyya-explained
Apr 12, 2018 – Anti-Muslim memes referencing taqiyya. … into a false claim that Muslims are permitted, or even commanded, to lie to non-Muslims as part of a …
Pamela Geller – | Southern Poverty Law Center
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/pamela-geller
Pamela Geller is the anti-Muslim movement’s most visible and flamboyant …. Despite Geller’s willingness to publish outright lies (such as her baseless theories …
4 years ago
Reply to
Kol
You, Kol, and one of those prime examples of ‘taqiyya’, with blatant lying. I’ve read the Qur’an, have scores of verses from the Qur’an in a file, and know that Muslims are encouraged to deceive non-Muslims with lies. Geller tells the truth about Islam and Muslims and you cannot stand her truthful revelations about the ideology, its lying followers and their barbaric violence. In fact, it is your mob who lies about Pamela Geller and anyone else who tells the truth about Islam and its disgusting violence.
4 years ago
Reply to
Rob Porter
I am NOT Muslim. I’m U.S.-born American. I have extended family in Russia and some of its neighboring countries. They include a small family branch who are Muslims. I’ve lived among them a few times for some pretty lengthy stays there, and I can actually say from that personal experience that the vast majority of some 1.7 BILLION Muslims worldwide are good, decent people and MUCH MORE respectable than any anti-Muslim bigot garbage and filth that I ever have seen or heard of. YOU very obviously do not know any REALITY at all about Muslims, Muslim Culture, or about Islam as a religion. You actually have nothing but delberate ignorance as you wallow in a filthy pigsty of mindless, unbridled HATE! It’s really disgusting to watch you and your ilk!!
4 years ago
Reply to
Rob Porter
Rob Porter, someone here said you are not fit to sleep with pigs. I stuck up for you and told her that as a hateful bigot you most certainly are!
4 years ago
Reply to
Moya McNulty
Don’t you realize that there are enough people to hate in the world already without your working so hard to give us another?
4 years ago
Reply to
1PierreMontagne1
This is a P.S. In this respect Trump does not know “everything he needs to know”. He. like too many of his generals and politicians does not know enough about Islam, does not know much or anything about the Qur’an and what it teaches Muslims, not least to mass migrate and then breed in order to take over countries. If he did he’d have goals to stop their immigrant entry and deport hundreds of thousands.
4 years ago
Reply to
Kol
You have such a “delicate touch” Koi Poi (“The Daily Show”)
Can we see a picture of you?
4 years ago
Reply to
1PierreMontagne1
If Bolton is the flaming fool seeking a war, the President will look good just by telling him to siddown and shutup.
Won’t make any difference if Iran pushes harder next time.
4 years ago
Oh this gets better and better. Trump tipped off Iran about the attack through a back channel. “Iranian officials told Reuters on Friday that Tehran had received a message from U.S. President Donald Trump through Oman overnight warning that a U.S. attack on Iran was imminent… The New York Times quoted a senior administration official as saying, U.S. warplanes took to the air and ships were put in position for a retaliatory attack only for an order to come to stand down, without any weapons being fired. Targets had included Iranian radar and missile batteries. The strikes were set for early in the day to minimize risk to the Iranian military or to civilians, the Times added.”
So the strikes were set to minimize casualties AND Trump gave Iran advance warning, and they still expected 150 casualties, huh? Imagine if Obama tipped off Pakistan about the Bin Laden raid and issued an order to stand down, Republicans would justifiably go nuts.
“In war, the elememt of surprise is sooooo important.What the hell is Obama doing.” -Trump’s tweet from 2013
4 years ago
Reply to
RC
“Worse Than Obama’s Red-Line Moment” by Kori Schake, The Atlantic
“Trump has now shown himself just as willing as President Barack Obama was to make empty threats that damage American credibility. Trump has actually done much worse than Obama did with his “red line” comment, since Obama didn’t commence operations only to then send a panicked message through an emissary assuring Iran’s leaders that he wanted negotiations instead, or publicly downplay the nature of the threat. Trump did both of these things, after providing Congress with “very strong and compelling evidence” that Iran had sabotaged two tankers in international waters. And he contradicted public, factual reports made by the military command…
The president’s reprehensible behavior makes it virtually impossible for him to bring the country together, convince it that war is necessary, and, on the basis of that support, persuade America’s allies to join the fight.”
4 years ago
Reply to
RC
There was also very strong and compelling evidence by military commanders that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. We do not need to rush into another war in the Middle East. I’m sure President Trump has more information than you do. He has been through this before in Syria and that worked out pretty good.
4 years ago
He has a strong will of his own!
4 years ago
Donald Trump is a brilliant diplomatic chess master. He plays the long game, and he always plays to win. He will not let Iran provoke the American people into a conflict that would allow every leftist in the world to point the finger at the US and say, “I told you Americans were warmongers.”
4 years ago
THERE WAS A MAN SENT FORTH FROM GOD and his name was D.J.T.
4 years ago
Reply to
Kol
Don’t get UPSET dahling – it’s just MOMMY’s natural reaction to ALL THESE RAVING LUNATICS.
4 years ago
Reply to
Moya McNulty
Ваш острый язык не указывает на острый ум. Ты ведешь себя как идиот. Зачем?
4 years ago
Reply to
Kol
Whatever you say, buddy. I have no charm or charisma. I have to go – gotta go put out a fire.
THAT’S IT – I’m BUSY.
4 years ago
Reply to
Moya McNulty
Ты действительно ведешь себя как полный идиот. Зачем?
Do svidaniya, durak!
4 years ago
Reply to
Kol
Yeah yeah yeah – Whatever you say, buddy – do svidaniya, durak!
That’s terrible – I leave the house for a few hours – and YOU’RE BACK !
I’m sorry, but I have to terminate this correspondence.
4 years ago
Reply to
Kol
Sorry to disappoint you – but I didn’t say I was going to leave this WEBSITE – just YOU
4 years ago
Reply to
Moya McNulty
No REAL “religious” overtones – just a “play” on words – or should I say a play on “initials” – like F.D.R. – do you KNOW about him – FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT – very interesting, important man. Historically, very IMPORTANT.
I think THE SAME WILL BE SAID OF D.J.T.
4 years ago
Reply to
Moya McNulty
THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY by Prof. Johan Galtung – Galtung-Institut
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Johan Galtung. Professor of Peace Studies, Dr hc mult. Born 1930 in Oslo, Norway; PhD in Mathematics 1956; PhD in Sociology 1957. Read a short biography …
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