[ April 25, 2024 ]
Alan Dershowitz has stated that Obama’s record on Israel was abominable. Dershowitz has also said that he is ashamed to have endorsed Obama in 2012, since the anti-Israel Obama had clearly deceived him about supporting Israel. However, none of this will prevent Dershowitz from “enthusiastically” supporting Obama’s Vice President in 2020. Terrible.
This is why the Democrats continue to betray the Jews: because the Jews don’t make the Democrats pay a political price for their anti-Semitism. Dershowitz (and all Jews with any dignity) should be endorsing the pro-Jewish and pro-Israel President Trump, to help prevent the anti-Semitic Democrats from re-taking power.
Prominent Jewish centrists such as Dershowitz are in denial. They refuse to accept that the Democrat Party is not the same party that they have supported for decades. They refuse to accept that the Democrat Party has been taken over by the radical and anti-Semitic Left. Sadly, Dershowitz will likely allow Biden to deceive him in 2020, the way Obama did in 2012. #JEXIT.
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Alan Dershowitz: I Would ‘Enthusiastically’ Support Biden Over Trump in 2020
Harvard law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz revealed Thursday that he would “enthusiastically” support former Vice President and 2020 frontrunner Joe Biden over President Donald Trump if the two face off in the 2020 general election.
Joshua Caplan, Breitbart, April 13, 2019:
Appearing on Sirius XM radio’s The Dan Abrams Show, Dershowitz said that he’s both fond of Biden personally and a “strong supporter” of him politically. “I like Joe Biden. I’ve liked him for a long time, and I could enthusiastically support Joe Biden,” Dershowitz told host Dan Abrams.
“Over Donald Trump?” Abrams asked the veteran lawyer.
“Over Donald Trump, yeah,” Dershowitz replied.
Dershowitz then went on to criticize Biden’s closest rival, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), saying that he wasn’t certain he could “pull that lever” for the self-avowed Democratic Socialist in the general election.
“If Bernie Sanders is nominated, that would present a real dilemma for me,” he said. “I don’t think under any circumstances I could vote for a man who went to England and campaigned for a bigot and anti-Semite like Jeremy Corbyn. I don’t think I could do it. I couldn’t pull that lever.”
Dershowitz, a lifelong Democrat who endorsed 2016 Democrat nominee Hillary Clinton, has long argued it was a mistake to appoint a special counsel to investigate now-debunked collusion between the 2016 Trump campaign and Russia. Reacting to special counsel Robert Mueller’s press conference earlier this month regarding his report, Dershowitz said Mueller had revealed his “partisanship” and “not only put his thumb on the scale against President Trump — he put his elbow on the scale. And he did it improperly.”
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76 Comments
4 years ago
For a supposedly smart guy, this isn’t very smart.
4 years ago
Reply to
Bill
What makes you think he’s necessarily telling the truth? Maybe he’s trying not to alienate friends and family and retain his Liberal cred. Maybe he’s going to do the exact opposite of what he says? I suspect that’s the more likely case. Not everyone’s a hero.
4 years ago
Reply to
ahem
you’re quite right that Dershowitz is no hero, and he knows it.
He has some integrity, but in the final analysis, he remains self-serving, and he wants to be welcomed home by the liberal elites.
Which doesn’t include the readers of Pamela Geller.
4 years ago
Reply to
Michael Garfinkel
Those invitations to parties in the Hamptons this summer looked to be drying up, So, the Law Professor had to do SOMETHING!!
4 years ago
Maybe Dershowitz admires Biden’s hands-on approach to women and little girls!
4 years ago
he is on every other night telling us trumps rights were violated, he understands that the obama admin had their hand on the illegal spying, and biden had full knowledge of this… does this guy think we are fools? or has he been offered a show on msnbc?
4 years ago
Reply to
joe shmoe
It’s a manifestation of Jewish neurosis. A lot of articles have been written about it (by Jews). Look it up.
4 years ago
Reply to
Jeff Ludwig
BS! I’m a Jew and I’m sure not nuts like he is! It’s all about Marxist BRAINWASHING!! And people who are brainwashed do not KNOW it!!
4 years ago
Reply to
Dorrie - Conservative
I am a Jew and former Democrat and it is more of an emotional disease, the lefty Jews are very emotionally attached to their party, no matter the faults, dangers and antisemitism, it is a true indication of insanity.
4 years ago
Reply to
HonestToAtee
It’s not just Jews, my entire family was addicted to the Dem0ratic party. If the Dem0rats had put up Idi Amin for POTUS they would’ve voted for him. They brayed about Nixon like he was the second coming…
4 years ago
If Bernie Sander’s support for “…a bigot and Anti Semite like Jeremy Corbyn…” is a deal breaker for Alan Dershowitz, how does he square that with supporting Joe Biden after Biden’s support for a bigot and Anti Semite like Barrack Obama?
4 years ago
Reply to
joscefi
Not only that, Dershowitz KNOWS that Biden took his idiot son, Hunter, on AF2, at taxpayer’s expense, to China and brokered a $1.5 billion deal for the kid – and that kid was kicked out of the military because of his drug habit! So essentially, what Biden did, was VERY illegal and yep, a SCANDAL, and hopefully, it will come back to bite him in the butt during his campaign!! He’s a loser, running on a failed Obama presidency!!
4 years ago
Reply to
Dorrie - Conservative
Where did Biden get all that billion? From our taxes just lke CROOKED HITLERY did too! They could care less about the people and all for their stupid greed for stuff and more stuff! I wish that we will be able to see them pay for their evil political doings. PRAY FOR IT!
4 years ago
Obviously he’s done significant amounts of weed or is a high functioning alcoholic.
I’d also investigate his sex life. Sounds like a pedophile profile.
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
I can see why you might think these thoughts, but no, Tamara, I don’t think it’s any of these. It’s a deep-seated neurotic attachment to FDR and the Democrats of the 1930’s that is causing this. Best wishes, Jeff
4 years ago
Reply to
Jeff Ludwig
I was assessing many things. Democrats universally have chemical or physical brain damage that causes them to see things as they do. It’s an acquired learning disability. Self care filters are acquired which lead to the brain damage and learning disability.
His lack of concern for the prolific violations of personal space, taking liberties with bodies of others is also indicative of upper level impulse control Issues associated with violence, criminality, and sexual violence.
In other words, he doesn’t have a problem with physically inappropriate behavior because he’s got his own going in private. Ie the pedophilia suspicion.
4 years ago
Reply to
Tamara Hussey-Mecklenburg
After reading your reply I’m definitely more open to your assessment. Thank you. Jeff
4 years ago
Trump 2020!!!!!!!!!
4 years ago
Although I do not know the nature of the relationship that exists between Dershowitz and Biden, I would be less than honest if I did not express my disappointment with Dershowitz’s comments about voting for Biden. Biden is an Obama thinker and follower. I found Obama’s presidency full of incompetency and bad judgment. Biden was, from my perspective, along with Hillary and Kerry, incompetent and probably as involved in all the fraudulent conduct that transpired during Obama’s presidency. Though I have concluded that the Democratic Party has no legitimate agenda, it is even more mortifying to me at a man like Dershowitz would suggest that he would be in favor of changing what I believe is a good direction that this country has taken under Trump, to step back and adopt a leader like Biden. Shame on the man! We need a democrat to take over like we need a hole in our head!
4 years ago
Reply to
Dennis
Another thought: By endorsing Biden, he moves him to the top of the list, and helps him get the nomination, knowing full well that Trump will be able to beat him badly. Maybe the man is smarter than we can grasp.
4 years ago
F*kc him!
He’s clearly suffering from some kind of mental impairment. Anyone with half a brain who went through eight years of Obamunism should have learned by now that nothing, nothing good comes from the DemoRats. I will never give him the light of day again. Traitor!
4 years ago
This is why I ignore Dershowitz’s appearances on TV shows and do not read articles with his “authoritative” pronouncements. He’s a sick old boy with “Jewish neurosis.” I grew up with so many guys like this. I was bar mitzvahed, and had all the sick trappings, and bought into the “stichklach” (Jewish word for “messy thought processes” or sometimes just “mess”). But eventually I wised up. My wife and I were invited to a banquet of one of the major Jewish organizations of America, and Alan was going to be honored. We had been invited to attend as guests (for free) at the $700 per plate function in midtown New York City. So, although I was not going to receive an award, I felt honored. However, we turned down the generous invitation, and one of our main reasons for not attending was that they were honoring this pathetic old school “lib.”
4 years ago
This is why I ignore Dershowitz’s appearances on TV shows and do not read articles with his “authoritative” pronouncements. He’s a sick old boy with “Jewish neurosis.” I grew up with so many guys like this. I was bar mitzvahed, and had all the sick trappings, and bought into the “stichklach” (Jewish word for “messy thought processes” or sometimes just “mess”). But eventually I wised up. My wife and I were invited to a banquet of one of the major Jewish organizations of America, and Alan was going to be honored. We had been invited to attend as guests (for free) at the $700 per plate function in midtown New York City. So, although I was not going to receive an award, I felt honored. However, we turned down the generous invitation, and one of our main reasons for not attending was that they were honoring this pathetic old school “lib.”
4 years ago
This is the Jewish Left problem and maybe there is a genetic component. Individual Freedom does not attract them and so Socialism and Communism is their first choice in about 80 percent of the time. Things go horribly wrong and they blame it on Conservatives…It is a wonder..
4 years ago
Biden was involved in ridding the Ukraine of its elected President and helped finance the protests with $400,000 of USA money and his sone is now an oil magnate in that country…so Dershowitz is not troubled by this? Is it possible that Dershowitz is a wise man because he says he is ?
4 years ago
Here’s a link to one of many articles about Jewish neurosis. His inability to break with the party of FDR and Wilson (Bernard Baruch during WWI was head of the War Production Board, the highest position held by a Jew up until that time under Wilson) is part of his anxiety. This article doesn’t discuss politics, but it’s all of a piece. There are many interesting articles on this subject. https://www.heyalma.com/yiddish-word-sums-jewish-anxiety/
4 years ago
Biden will blow it, he is already blowing it. Dershowitz is very likely suffering from dementia. The left in the current state it is in, will nominate Sanders. This will be entertaining to see President Trump school him on basic math like addition and subtraction.
4 years ago
Democrats like Dershowitz will only realize their error when the knife drops to behead them. Jews who supported the likes of Obama are going to be very unpleasantly surprised.
4 years ago
Now Elizabeth Warren is rapidly rising. I think that people are jumping the gun prematurely. https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/15/donald-trump-elizabeth-warren-2020-election-1365816
4 years ago
Reply to
Millionmileman
I guarantee you the liberal winner has already been determined.
The liberal media is busy shaping the outcome and misleading liberals into believing, THIS time they will select the winner. They won’t.
4 years ago
Reply to
Millionmileman
I guarantee you the liberal winner has already been determined.
The liberal media is busy shaping the outcome and misleading liberals into believing, THIS time they will select the winner. They won’t.
4 years ago
Reply to
Millionmileman
Fauxahontas is winning? Is she counting on the Native American vote? Are tribal gaming casinos (aka. Native American tribes) funding her campaign?
4 years ago
4 years ago
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
I could say that for all Dems. The next kick they get will bring it on!
4 years ago
4 years ago
Reply to
AR154U☑ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ DEPLORABLE 2020
Who is the role model of morality for crazy, creepy uncle Joe? Obozo? LOL!!!
4 years ago
I go back to Michael Savage – LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL ILLNESS!
https://www.amazon.com/Liberalism-Mental-Disorder-Savage-Solutions/dp/1595550062
NOTICE the common ground with LIBERALISM and ISLAM.
6 Reasons Why Liberalism IS A Mental Disorder
By Rusty | Featured Contributor
May 4, 2016 10:25AM
In 2005, Michael Savage famously wrote a book titled, Liberalism is a Mental Disorder, the subject of which is self-explanatory. Additionally, Dr. Lyle Rossiter, a board-certified clinical psychologist, wrote a book in which he diagnosed the ideology of the left as a tangible mental illness. Perhaps though, liberalism is not so much a novel mental disorder, but a more cleverly disguised form of illness already widely studied since the late ‘60s – narcissistic personality disorder (NPD).
Remember – There is an argument to be made that President Obama himself is a narcissistic sociopath https://thepoliticalinsider.com/washington-post-uses-psychologist-to-refute-obama-is-psychopath-finds-hes-a-sociopath/
The Mayo Clinic defines NPD as “a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration.” This seems in tune with the fact that liberals – along with their degenerate offspring asking for “safe spaces” and hiding from chalk – believe their policies and platforms fall in the majority – or the 99% if you will – despite being outnumbered by conservatives in 47 of 50 states.
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1. Expecting constant praise and admiration (What earns “praise” to day is vastly different than years ago.)
Protesting sidewalk chalk, protesting topless sunbathing, protesting the right to have a ‘safe space,’ protesting the First Amendment, etc. And all the while they look for support for their protests, they look for praise, they look for admiration – which the media usually obliges.
2. Being jealous of others
The very premise on which the liberal platform of wealth redistribution and social justice are based, is jealousy. They want what others have, and they want it without cost to themselves, either monetarily or based on time. They are envious of those with wealth, health insurance, homes, etc. It is a common attribute upon which all liberal protesters rally around.
3. Expecting (demanding) others to go along with your ideas and plans
… Liberals honestly thought that once the plebeians had a chance to see their ideas, they would go along with it. Proof of this materialized when Nancy Pelosi uttered these famous words:
” We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.”
4. Setting unrealistic goals (utopian fantasies)
* Guaranteed “living wage” income regardless of employment
* Free college education
* Open borders migration
* Immediate, across-the-board debt forgiveness for all
The liberal politician’s equivalent of this list would be:
* Extending unemployment benefits ad nauseam, and of course the Fight For $15
* Free college education
* Amnesty for illegal immigrants (DREAM Act and executive amnesty)
* Student loan forgiveness
5. A sense of entitlement
The liberal movement amounts to nothing more than making excuses to legitimize a platform of laziness and entitlements. We’ve seen these in campus protests, minimum wage protests, anti-Wall Street, anti-capitalism protests, and advocates of perpetual welfare. Their solution to counter corporate greed is to steal from those that have worked hard to attain their level of wealth, and give to those who refuse to reach such a work ethic. ‘Tax the Rich’ anyone? Money for nothing, or entitlement, seems to be a birthright for the left.
6. Trouble keeping healthy relationships (My description – self centered spoiled, pampered, lazy brats)
Remember the Occupy movement, a bunch of jobless liberals camping out in government-owned parks for weeks? Does this sound like a group of individuals with relationship issues?
* A 24-year-old convicted sex offender involved with a 14-year-old at Occupy Dallas.
* Assaults and instances of groping in New York’s Zuccotti Park.
* ‘Women Only‘ sleeping quarters had to be erected at the New York encampment.
* A permit was yanked in Madison, Wisconsin, due to public indecency.
* A Los Angeles protester arrested for the same reason … in front of children.
…
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/6-reasons-why-liberalism-can-be-considered-a-mental-disorder/
See the common ground with LIBERALISM and ISLAM?
4 years ago
4 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
BRILLIANT! I like the “EMBEDDED GROUPTHINK MICROCHIP”
Where d’you find this – I’d like one for my kitchen wall.
4 years ago
Sounds like one ignorant libturd jew if he did!!!! Can’t fix STUPID with libturds…and it seems the jews are shooting them selves each time they vote for these POS libturd dumocraps!!!!
4 years ago
“Beware of the highly educated.” Proverbs.
4 years ago
Ridiculous. Alan Dershowitz is simply too smart to pull that dumbbell’s lever. He is safe to say what he wants before the summer “season” on Martha’s Vineyard, hoping that now maybe he will get invited to some parties again.
4 years ago
Ends don’t meet here.
How does he explain the dissatisfaction with Obama and still endorse Biden?
4 years ago
Surely nobody can be surprised by that fool! He said SEVERAL times that he “voted enthusiastically for Hillary”! He might know a lot about the law, but he has ZERO common sense!
4 years ago
This is proof the Left will never change. If he wants Bite’m in then he wants you DESTROYED. He wants Trump out and a sexual deviant in office.
Why does Dirtshowitz want this?? He knows Bite’m is a fool and will surely bring communism to this country from the top down. The perfect man for it.
Like obammy, he’ll sign anything in front of him. obammy got his Michael and Reggie. Joe only needs a little girl’s wet anties.
4 years ago
Dershowitz is too experienced and intelligent to be deceived by Biden or any other dem. No, the good professor suffers from the IWTB syndrome: I Want To Believe…..that the dems stand for good things, rather than for the traitorous policy ideas that would destroy America if ever enacted. At age 80, I fear that the prof`s IWTB is never going to be affected by reality.
4 years ago
4 years ago
How can a man be so smart yet do damned stupid at the same time? especially when he knows Biden is a sick treasonous pedophile.
4 years ago
This illness that infests the minds of many Jewish people is the reason that I cannot help wondering how much support Hitler got from the Jews before they realized that he was out to get them. I have tried looking this up but cannot find much about it except for a few anecdotal reports. If anyone out there knows anything about this issue please let me know.
4 years ago
Reply to
CreoleGumbo
Darn good question, one of which I surely cannot answer. I’d like to think, none…
4 years ago
Reply to
Chet
This is about the only thing that I could find. Note that it says that many Jews thought the antisemitism was for the purpose of stirring people up and not really to annihilate the Jews. But it would be interesting to find more in depth information.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews
4 years ago
All this does is prove that Liberal Jews like Alan Dershowitz are emotionally retarded, you can be a law professor and still be emotionally effed, that is what Alan is suffering from. Insanity personified.
4 years ago
Reply to
HonestToAtee
Once he gets mugged, or a family member gets injured by an illegal, he might change his tune.
4 years ago
Correct headline: “I would support the child molester and sniffer.”
4 years ago
For all of his supposed intelligence, that must be the most inane and stupid decision he makes if he supports Biden.
Biden plagiarized in his law school papers, he hasn’t gotten a foreign policy issue correct in his life. His actions toward women and little girls are disgusting. He sold out this country to China for what: 2 billion for his son’s business? Plus, he doesn’t like Israel or the Jews. He supported Obama when he disrespected Netanyahu when he visited.
What the hell is wrong with Dershowitz?
4 years ago
Reply to
Political_qrm
What in the world is wrong with all of America’s Jews who will steadfastly support the hate-filled left in this nation, same bunch who in no wise support Israel… Crazy!
4 years ago
ANYONE who supports ANY Muslim IS ANTI-AMERICAN.
Dershowitz will have a very very small following since he said that.
FIGHT BACK, AMERICA(NS).
4 years ago
He previously supported Dinkins over Giuliani for NYC mayor…good lawyer but lousy political judgement. Should stick to the law.
4 years ago
retarded :))
4 years ago
…very adept with the law but an idiot, politically…
4 years ago
Now, why is that, Mr D? How can you, a professor, not know America’s leftists are no friend of Israel… In fact, they always side with the opposition against your own people, yet, far, far too many Jews are duped in this nation. Not only is Israel and her very existence ignored, so too is God Almighty, the Holy One of Israel… Wake up, people, awake!
4 years ago
I’m so disappointed in Alan Dershowitz.
He knows & admits that the DemonRAT Party are liars, thieves, cheats, & they’re pure evil, but he would STILL vote for one of them?
I really LIKED Alan Dershowitz, & I loved how he evenly applied the law… but THIS is insane. Something ISN’T right here.
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Something is REALLY fishy here in this situation. He just may be comprised?!
I’m starting to wonder if Dershowitz has been getting threatened and/or blackmailed from some different Far Left- Democrat- Socialists Groups. I wouldn’t past the Lefty-Loons.
4 years ago
Well, no one is perfect.
4 years ago
ALAN DERSHOWITZ IS WHAT LENIN WOULD CALL “A HAPPY FOOL & USEFUL IDIOT” FOR DEMOCRATS! 60% OF AMERICAN JEWS JUST WON’T GET IT! THEY ARE LIKE THE EUROPEAN JEWS OF WWII WHO REFUSED TO HEAR WHAT THE ZIONISTS WERE SAYING UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE & ONTO AUSCHWITZ THEY WENT!
THE ONE SUCCESSFUL CONCENTRATION UPRISING WHERE JEWS ESCAPED WAS LED BY A RUSSIAN JEW WHO WAS A SOVIET SOLDIER WHO WAS THEN MISTREATED BY THE SOVIET RULERS WHEN HE RETURNED HOME AND THE ZIONISTS OF POLAND LED TWO UNSUCCESSFUL UPRISINGS WHERE AT LEAST THEY TOOK SOME GERMAN NAZIS WITH THEM! JEWISH LAWYERS LIKE DERSHOWITZ WERE NOT AMONG THESE HEROES FOR A REASON!
AS JABOTINSKY THE GREAT ZIONIST LEADER OBSERVED, THE PROPENSITY OF JEWISH LEFTISTS TO SUPPORT DISARMAMENT AND LEFTWING POLITICS LEADING TO COMMUNIST UPRISINGS WAS A DEAD-END FOR JEWS WITH ISRAEL BEING THE ONLY GUARANTEE FOR EVERY JEW & IN THE USA AS MEIR KAHANE, FOUNDER OF THE JDL OBSERVED, HAVING A 22! MEIR KAHANE IS A MARTYR WHO PROVED WITH HIS BLOOD THAT WHAT HE SAID ABOUT MUSLIMS WAS LARGELY TRUE BUT AMERICAN JEWS AS OPPOSED TO RUSSIAN OR ISRAELI JEWS REFUSE TO SEE AND HEAR! PAM GELLER SPEAKS INTO THE WIND TO MOST OF THEM WHO GIVE HER BAD WIND BACK BECAUSE I WOULD SAY MOST JEWISH LEFTISTS IN THE USA ARE THE EMBODIMENT OF THE SOURCE OF GAS THAT ISN’T FUEL I.E. SH_T!
4 years ago
Jewish blindness of biblical proportions?Since pride blinds a person to the proportion of their pride and Jews are persons and very politically blind, it can be assumed that they are very proud people? Solution: give them enough doses of truth so that humility returns and therefore sight will be restored… And it will be a miracle of biblical proportions.
4 years ago
I guess he’s through as a Fox contributor. I won’t watch him, even if I still watched Fox.
4 years ago
The man and his family were threatened by the loony left. he still doesn’t get it.
