PolitiFact fact-checker: they lied, Pamela Geller was right

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Ciara O’Rourke, from Politifact, made a fool of herself when she said a picture of Notre Dame shot by Sputniknews.com and used in a Pamela Geller’s article is a fake.

The picture is offending: it shows two Muslims laughing while Notre Dame is burning in the street right behind them.

Facebook, who is partnering with Politifact to flag false news and misinformation, took the story and the picture down.

Truth is, Facebook and Politifact are using the “false news” argument as a pretext to silence any opinion they don’t like. And they surely don’t like people to learn than French Muslims were laughing when the cathedral was burning.

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O’Rourke writes:

we don’t know anything about the men in the photo—what they’re doing and if they are Muslim, notably. But what’s more, a media forensics expert told PolitiFact the photo was doctored.

Let’s fact-check the lazy fact-checker:

  1. If you cannot see a difference between, say a native Indian, and a red hair Jewish Ashkenaze, or between a native French and a migrant, how can you engage in identity politics and protect minorities! You don’t need to ask anyone the origin of the two men laughing to make sure they are Arabs: 100% of the people would confirm. Dark skin, Semite facial … and next to 100% of the Arabs in France are Muslims. It is really as ridiculous to second-guess that they are Muslims as to look at me and second-guess I am Ashkenaze!
  2. What are they doing? The police is evacuating the block for obvious security reasons. One can see the red and white tapes around the Cafe with the green store front: one in the background right across Notre Dame, and one in the forefront marking an area people—including the two laughing Muslims— are being asked to evacuate.
  3. A “forensic expert” told PolitiFact the photo was doctored”.

This is the killing argument, right? A fake picture. A fabricated picture.

Wrong.

First, ask yourself this question: why would Sputniknews create a fake picture with two people if they don’t look Muslims? There is an inherent contradiction here.

A fake picture?

But there is more. I said PolitiFact people are lazy. All they want is to push a politically correct narrative. They believe they are THE authority, because they self proclaim as such. They want you to believe that they are impartial judges. They are not.

Who is their “media foreseeing expert” who found the picture is fake? Catalin Grigoras, the director of the National Center for Media Forensics at University Colorado Denver. He should be ashamed of himself. Either he lies, or he is totally incompetent.

Grigoras says:

  • The men were inconsistent with the rest of the photograph.
  • “The two front persons are inserted,”
  • zooming in on the right cheek of the man standing on the right reveals obvious editing.

Another “expert” Janne Ahlberg from Finland is “debunking hoaxes”. On HoaxEye website, she wrote about the picture: “A fake image is worth zero words.”

I said PolitiFact people are lazy. All it takes, and that what people who pretend to be reporters should do, is to go to the source and ask questions. This is exactly what I did.

I asked SputnikNews for a proof their image is real. They quickly sent me a link with a video taken a few seconds after the image was shot where you see one of two men crossing under the red and white tape: the picture is real.

They also sent me a 2.2 MB, 4032 by 3024 version of the picture, where every detail is more visible: the picture is real. No insertion.

Pamela Geller was right. PolitiFact, Ciara O’Rourke, Catalin Grigoras, Janne Ahlberg are the villains. They lied pretending the picture is a fake. They produce Fake news to denounce real news. And it’s about time to show who they really are: totalitarians in disguise who will use any trick to censor any opinion they don’t want in the public sphere. Bad people. Evil methods.

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Thomas Faddis
Thomas Faddis
4 years ago

Can you Not AFFORD a GD proofreader????????!!!! How does one make a ‘foul’ of oneself, your excellent site looks STUPID AF, EVERY single time this happens, which is Almost EVERY article!!!!! Do you WANT to look STUPID, Ms. Gellar?????!!!!!!

Sara Eades
Sara Eades
4 years ago
Reply to  Thomas Faddis

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lulz

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  Sara Eades

U live in Los Angeles? U have my sympathies.

IndigoRed
IndigoRed
4 years ago
Reply to  Thomas Faddis

You know what looks stupid, Mr. Faddis? Using all caps unnessesarily. Hyperbole like “every single time” and “almost every article” is stupid. The over use of punctation marks — “????????!!!!”, “!!!!”, “?????!!!!!!” — is stupid.

A simple typo on the part of Ms. Geller does not expose her as stupid person, especially given her resume as a past editor of the New York Daily News. Your pointing out the error with your attenant errors exposes you as a pedantic putz.

Thomas Faddis
Thomas Faddis
4 years ago
Reply to  IndigoRed

You obviously have NOT been following this site as long as I have, I forgive your ignorance….THIS time, lol!

IndigoRed
IndigoRed
4 years ago
Reply to  Thomas Faddis

Just curious, how long have you been following this site? I, frankly, doubt your claim that it has been longer than I have followed Pamela and been acquainted with her which started when she was just a commenter, like the rest of us early bloggers, on the blog Little Green Footballs back in 2001 or ’02. When she started her own blog in October 2003, I was there to comment and discuss the news of the day. We were commenters on the blog Iraq the Model which was also followed by Pres. Bush’s advisers. When Jyllands-Posten published 12 cartoons featuring Mohammad in January 2005, Pamela linked to my blog because I had all 12 when most publishers only had a partial collection. Front Page magazine also keeps a permanent link to my Mo toon blog page. I have often defended Pamela and her family in smaller publications when she has been maligned. Eventually, Pamela came to my part of the country to give a talk, I was there, we met, and she mentioned my blog work in her speech. Occasionionally, we still exchange emails, too.

Although, you and and I are roughly the same age and would agree on 99% of just about any subject, from John Fogerty to Memphis Belle to the delightfully insane AOC, I just don’t believe you have followed Pamela Geller from the start. So, how long have you been following this site?

robert v g
robert v g
4 years ago
Reply to  IndigoRed

Couldn’t just drop it, huh? I notice you both have Pamela as most-frequented.She’s my 2nd.

IndigoRed
IndigoRed
4 years ago
Reply to  robert v g

Nope. Don’t like to be talked down to.

Thomas Faddis
Thomas Faddis
4 years ago
Reply to  IndigoRed

5 years. If you haven seen all the typos in that time, then you’re either not paying attention or you don’t read 90+% of her articles like I do.

IndigoRed
IndigoRed
4 years ago
Reply to  Thomas Faddis

I do. I just know that Pamela’s ideas are bigger than pedantic punctuation and spelling. Only pedestrian readers with far too much time on their hands and a penchant for being persnickety would be so concerned with form over function. Read for information, Tom, not to prove your are a spelling bee champion.

Thomas Faddis
Thomas Faddis
4 years ago
Reply to  IndigoRed

Now you’re psychologically projecting, make an appointment, lol!

Jerry Dobson
Jerry Dobson
4 years ago

So many quisling dhimmis infecting the west.

Sara Eades
Sara Eades
4 years ago

as if Politifact had any credibility to begin with.

O'Brien
O'Brien
4 years ago
Reply to  Sara Eades

Should be Politicrap

Sergey Ivanovich Kopay
Sergey Ivanovich Kopay
4 years ago
Reply to  O'Brien

Politifuckt

R. Arandas
R. Arandas
4 years ago
Reply to  Sara Eades

About as much as the other left-wing “fact-checker” Snopes.

VTS
VTS
4 years ago
Reply to  Sara Eades

If fake media, fake factchecker, or fake progressive says that something is fake, it means it is true. This is the “gift” that democrap party gave to America.

Finrod Felagund
Finrod Felagund
4 years ago
Reply to  Sara Eades

Politifarce was the clown show that declared a 100 percent true Mitt Romney line their “2012 Lie Of The Year”.

vercingetorix
vercingetorix
4 years ago

In France there is an attack on churches almost every week.

It now appears that the renovation works had not even started when the fire broke out.
An expert said on french TV that it is impossible for centuries old wood to burn so quickly because such an old wood is as hard as a rock. If you pour flammable substances on such a wood before setting it on fire, it is a different thing.
Conclusion: it was indeed arson, and when it was arson, it was without any reasonable doubt, muslim arson.
Let`s wait and see.

Jean Grumberg
Jean Grumberg
4 years ago
Reply to  vercingetorix

vercingetorix wrote: “In France there is an attack on churches almost every week”.

Not quite: There are almost 3 attacks per day: 840 per year.

robert v g
robert v g
4 years ago
Reply to  Jean Grumberg

No sense you exaggerating number: 840/365=2.3 duh.

John Magne Trane
John Magne Trane
4 years ago
Reply to  robert v g

It’s always best to use the lowest number. “2 churches are attacked in some way each day, in France”. So that when the islamists or their leftist co-travellers try to object and say the number isn’t real, you agree and reveal it is even larger.

robert v g
robert v g
4 years ago

I am glad you agree with me.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  vercingetorix

As with the Las Vegas shooter allah you’ll be waiting for is a cover-up of muslum complicity — even as other muslums crow in triumph.

Ari
Ari
4 years ago

It is necessary to call a spade a spade. Just like muslim conquerors of the past, today’s muslim vandals want to destroy all non-islamic religious artifacts and buildings. These muslims were laughing while Notre Dame was burning, because muslims tend to celebrate death and destruction.comment image French TV news presenter Vanessa Burggraf

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Ari
Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

That comes out when (once) wise men now want all the
more stupid women to “share” the power: totally desas-
ter. A pretty face that have to “sell” us our own downfall.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

Why has nature created her face that the whole world yells at: “Love me!” She
doesn’t know it, neither do her creditors. Obviously, they’ve gone so far away
from their instincts that they shouldn’t be surprised at feeble-minded results.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

Can pretty women say anything clever? Rarely.
Their wisdom isn’t in world politics, but in family.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

Any foolish attempt to change this must inevitably end in the fai-
lure of entire societies, even so-called “advanced” civilizations.

But why, please why? Because Mother Nature has come up
with something else for her over a hundred thousand years.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

And that’s exactly why it’s called “Mo-
ther Nature” and not “Mother Politics”!
Whoever disregards nature is excreted
by it like a lump of pus. Sooner or later.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

Pam Geller is 1. Jewish (IQ above average), 2. has 4 (?) children, 3.
goes daily against this horrendous madness. Actually pitiful for the

“men” of this world that the women have to help them out of trouble.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

It must be very bad for these alleged “men” if at least the strongest of their women
try to help them with banalities, which they themselves are not even able to provide.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

At first glance there may seem to be very pretty and at the same time bitterly determined
Jewish women in the Israeli army who are willing to defend themselves. But the world or
“the West” is not as far as Isreal yet! And if there is a fight in the field “woman against
man”, the Jewish men will always be superior to them. Every military expert knows that.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

And actually the women also want the men to be physically and intellectually superior
to them – and to remain so! When men no longer are, their wives will automatically look
for men in other peoples and cultures. Why? Because that is what mother nature wants!

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

Wasn’t the Jewish community too yielding, too feminine, too indecisive? Couldn’t they
have protected their children with more harshness and masculinity? Without a doubt.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

Judaism can be, for itself real but the world fictitious, the
principle of sexual “equality” only live on its own star. But
this star exists only in their imagination, not in our universe.

The Jews will also have to learn this, whether they like it or not. And
then there won’t be much left of their former “sentimental dreaming”.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

If you look at it closely, “high hard walls” and fast precise hightech
weapons are meant to replace strong determined men! That can’t
be good in the long run, because NATURE doesn’t work that way!

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

The only solution to the problem is to create a strong, determined, con-
structive (so not destructive) healthy positive masculinity, something that
is largely alien to Judaism. In any case, when it comes to preserving one-
self autonomously. Because feminised men will no longer be considered as
conception partners for women because of their poor sperm quality. This is
also the reason why Judaism has mixed with other peoples all over the world
from the very beginning. That is in truth the core of all current problems.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

Jews should, only for “humanistic” reasons, stand up for all fathers of this world who are not allowed to see their children and to accompany them into a good self-confident life. If they do this – contrary to the neo-fascist inhuman mainstream – they will get respect from all sides, pioneers into a time in which love and not war prevail. In which women choose men because they have the natural right to choose quality. But in which men do not slide into extremism disenfranchised.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

The Nazi system was a caricature, a “wannabe” pseudo-military “mas-
culinity”. The key to banishing antisemitism from this world forever, to
stamp it out it like an old glowing cigarette, is not to suppress or even
demonize masculinity, but to tame & steer it into healthy loving paths.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

All war researchers know that frustrated aggression is male (youth bulge).
Whoever restrains and tames this destructive force is ruler of this world.
Who instead invests in delayed moon flights, has not really understood.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

It’s about unleashing the manhood that’s been tied up so far. That alone is the potential to
save our societies. This includes an offensive catalogue of measures against all those for-
ces that consciously and deliberately seek to destroy this masculinity. Pam could proclaim a Supranational Father’s Day of the West and repeatedly point out how many children in our societies wait in vain for their fathers. It’s not for nothing that the men’s movement is atta-
ched to conservative camp, it’s in the nature of things. It’ll get around and lure men to her.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

I have seen so many sad demoralized men that I know eacttly what I am talking

about. Whoever taps into this source will contribute to the revival of our societies.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

The problem is not that we don’t have enough men (yet). The problem is inactivity, passivity,
self-sacrifice, resignation, depression, even cowardice & self-destruction on the part of our
men. Whoever is able to give them a serious real meaning will bundle energies – synergies –

focus on themselves and become a radiance against the malice of this hostile muslim world.

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

It is important not to devalue women but to valorize men, give them back their former
pride, women, you disgraced and humiliated them because you knew perfectly well
that they meant well with you. Now it is your turn to thank them, not to live in Muslim
societies! Give back some of your freedom, your men need your encouragement now!

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

There lies your task! Our men will cope
with “Islam” – if you respect them again!
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/boys-men/201308/young-men-who-commit-suicide

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

You have degraded them to mere clowns who are no longer respected by any Muslim
in this world. THEREFORE all the Molems stream to us, they have long since identified
our structural weakness, our lack of masculinity and integrated it into their plan. Got it?

Marc
Marc
4 years ago
Reply to  Marc

You have made losers of them, and now you are lost
yourselves. Make winners of them again! Those who
raise their heads, walk upright and say: “I refuse to lose!

Underzog
Underzog
4 years ago

To these creeps, the narrative must be protected at all costs. If that means lyiing or just going with their confirmation bias, Politifact and the rest of the deep state will do it.

Underzog
Underzog
4 years ago
Reply to  Underzog

This isn’t the first time this fake type story was done with so-called experts to back it up. It is reminiscent of that fake story that was peddled by experts in Britain that Thomas Jefferson had an affair with quadroon, Sally Hemmings,. Supposedly Pres. Jefferson and his light skinned, black salve had a child together. This story was peddled to help Pres. Bill Clinton in his impeachment trial. After Pres. Clinton was not cinviceted in that impeachment trial, the story was found to be incorrect and the speculation was that a nephew of Thomas Jefferson was the father of Sally Hemmings’s child. This was plitically motivated research with a conclusion to help one particular party and ideology. Now, our neo ccommie culture is even ore engaged in opposing and smearing freedom fighters.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  Underzog

LOL. The Road was similarly brutal.

Underzog
Underzog
4 years ago

One other thing, when Rep. Omar said “someone did somethings…” as regards the 9/11 terror attack, she is mirroring the media in that the identity of the hijackers is unknown or irrelevant. Maybe they were just mentally ill or some other lie to excuse islamic terror. . She knows a little about manipulating her idiots on the Left and can speak their language until the time comes for the left’s Muslim buddies to cut their throats.

O'Brien
O'Brien
4 years ago

Well indirectly or not at least the left is admitting the Muslims laughing is not a good thing. They wont go as far as condemn them, but by denying the picture as real when it is accurate, they are admitting it does not help the Muslims cause, or the call for more refugees.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago

You know who else laughed about the burning of the Notre Dame cathedral?
Atheists, it was the butt of many an atheist joke (as Pat Condell’s twitter feed made plain). It’s good to see atheists and muslums have something in common…

robert v g
robert v g
4 years ago

You Betcha! The H. you’re going to is just 6 ft. under (I’m throwing you in w. them ’cause I’ve never been sure of where you’re coming from).

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
4 years ago
Reply to  robert v g

‘Do not cry out in condemnation of one another, brethren, lest you come under judgement. I tell you that the Judge is standing at the door.’
James 5:9

“Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned.”
Luke 6:37

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
4 years ago

Who are you going to believe, Politifact or your lying eyes?

Remember all the lefties who told us muslimes were not dancing in the streets on 9/11?

I still remember the good old days of minor differences in news stories concerning the same event as opposed to today’s competing narratives and fake news.

robert v g
robert v g
4 years ago

Don’t forget the evil Bush family dynasty calling the ‘Slimes “a religion of peace.”

Hans Wellington
Hans Wellington
4 years ago

Many so called Fact checkers are just leftard controlled media lies reinforcing agencies pretending to do checking.

Alleged-Comment
Alleged-Comment
4 years ago

Sounds like the “Mueller” Satanic tactic being used like they did with Trump. Constant barrage of lies hoping you cave in.

Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

R. Arandas
R. Arandas
4 years ago

Many of these fact-checkers have a strong left-wing bias, there’s even an article on this:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-daily-mail-snopes-story-and-fact-checking-the-fact-checkers/#1ecf549a227f

John Acord
John Acord
4 years ago

SPLC, Politifact and CNN as the arbiters of what is true and fake is alike asking the Goebbels Propaganda Ministry for advice and analysis.

Mark Huber
Mark Huber
4 years ago

The “fact checker” is not lazy or incompetent. They are willing to lie, cheat, steal or kill to advance their “narrative.” For this reason, I hope Pamela can partner with Judicial Watch and MRC to sue for libel, and potentially other issues as well. Large monetary lawsuits may teach them the importance of integrity. They should also put in a complaint against the false witness expert.

Roma Mikhasev
Roma Mikhasev
4 years ago

For Pamela, For Trump, elimination of beasts.

byronmullet
byronmullet
4 years ago

Liberal social terrorists follow Muslim terrorists around to blow up the truth and keep the diminishingly civilized world sleeping…zzzzz

Choice America
Choice America
4 years ago

I’ve NEVER known Pamela to be wrong. Period.

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