The Guardian hits a new low: “Why it’s OK for young Muslims to be radical”

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The enemedia is a traitor class. The word “radical” has been used for years as a euphemism for jihadis. Now the depraved and sinister far-left Guardian is trying to normalize it, which can only have the effect of hindering efforts to combat jihad activity, which Britain does a bad enough job of already. Now it will be “Islamophobic” to move against “radical Muslims.” Madness.

“Why it’s OK for young Muslims to be radical,” by Ali Nobil Ahmad, Guardian, February 28, 2019 (thanks to Armaros):

The legal and moral conundrums posed by the return (or not) of British jihadis following the collapse of the Islamic State “caliphate” has triggered renewed anxiety about the place of Muslim youth in western society. The home secretary, Sajid Javid’s populist bid to strip Shamima Begum of citizenship has heightened the pitch of an emotive debate. But little has changed in Britain’s approach to counter-terrorism, soon to undergo independent review following years of heavy criticism.

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The Prevent strategy places entire communities under suspicion without necessarily being effective. European equivalents have fared similarly. A €2.5m French deradicalisation boot camp in the Loire valley asked participants to sing the national anthem, eat non-halal food and learn “Republican values” without rehabilitating a single individual.

When policymakers talk about preventing “radicalisation”, they are missing the point: there’s nothing inherently wrong with being radical. The term can simply mean rejection of the status quo. The French and American revolutions, universal suffrage and the end of colonialism all involved political subversion. Politics has long been ideological and international. (Think George Orwell and the Spanish civil war).

Yet still we talk about Muslim youth in the hackneyed language of the early 2000s, in which “radical” ideas must be neutralised through social engineering. A good (Muslim) citizenry, in this logic, is politically docile, disengaged from world affairs and discouraged from combining religion with political activism.

Muslims of my generation, growing up in the 70s and 80s, were inspired by radical ideas derived from secular humanism. Confronted with racial and social injustice in Britain, many of us found solace and solidarity in third worldism and socialist internationalism – without subscribing to indiscriminate violence.

Muslims in the UK who have grown up after 2001 have done so in an era of nihilistic surrender to the capitalist world order and the political status quo. Unsurprisingly, some have veered towards one or the other current extremes of political Islam.

Of course, the reasons hundreds were seduced by the death cult of Isis cannot be explained solely by a lack of alternatives. Recruitment was driven as much by crass adventurism and bloodlust. The public is justified in feeling revulsion towards returning marauders, whose crimes should be prosecuted with the full force of British and international law.

But the choices of a few cannot be allowed to bar generations of young Muslims from trying to change the world. Rather than view them with fear, a supposedly open society like the UK should ask how their dynamic potential can be allowed to flourish….

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Dennis
Dennis
5 years ago

My guess is that this article was written by a Muslim
author. When one analyzes what he is saying, one must conclude that the reasons
underlying the serious problems facing the European countries is that those who
have been raised under the indoctrination of Islam simply cannot assimilate
into what it is expected of them to be comfortable, industrious and prosperous in
European countries. They have come from, or been raised, under a belief system
that has as its primary purpose domination, and rejection of everything
non-Islamic. They cannot accept the conduct, morals, mores, and general spirit
of what being European is all about. Europe should have already recognized that
those are the true facts, and the leaders there should have long ago actively
undertook affirmative deportation of those who cannot accept assimilation,
while at the same time prosecuted those among them who promote the violence and
hate and adverse conduct of everything non-Muslim. Having failed to do that,
they are in deep trouble now. I see that happening here in the states, unless
we wise up and take appropriate action to save ourselves from the same scourge
that is destroying Europe.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
5 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

” … by Ali Nobil Ahmad, Guardian, February 28, 2019 ….” Do you think that it was written by a moslem? Especially, when it wrote ” … Muslims of my generation, growing up in the 70s and 80s …”. You don’t suppose that the author, calling itself a moslem, is kind of a “tell” that it’s a moslem?

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
5 years ago

LOL, that might be considered a tell.

Q. What’s the difference between an American BBQ and an Islamic BBQ?
A. In America, Humans roast animals over a fire. In Islam, it’s the other way around.

Lynn D
Lynn D
5 years ago

Q What’s the national bird of Saudi Arabia?
A. A Blow fly

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
5 years ago
Reply to  Lynn D

LOL, good one and all this time I thought it was a sand flea.

munchenfez
munchenfez
5 years ago
Reply to  Lynn D

Q. Why are camels called ships of the desert?
A. They’re full of arab seamen.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
5 years ago
Reply to  munchenfez

That’s one of the better ones. It’s been decades since I’d heard it. Thanks for the memories.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
5 years ago

I get a bit annoyed of those that post long, lengthy “comments” that, obviously, haven’t even read the article. Or, like little marcie, long strings of comments that have nothing to do with what’s been written. And, in MOST instances, are diametrically opposed to what was stated in the article. Call it a pet peeve of an old fart.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
5 years ago

Ms. Geller believes in free speech without any buts…

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
5 years ago

Are “ifs” “ands” “or” allowable?

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
5 years ago

I guess not considering ‘Marc’ uses this place as a confessional booth.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
5 years ago

I get a bit annoyed of those that post long, lengthy “comments” that, obviously, haven’t even read the article. Or, like little marcie, long strings of comments that have nothing to do with what’s been written. And, in MOST instances, are diametrically opposed to what was stated in the article. Call it a pet peeve of an old fart.

James Jones
James Jones
5 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

I think any country dominated by Islam, is essentially a hell hole. History makes clear their intent and the end product aught to be enough to convince any sane person that allowing them to spread their ideology into your nation is suicide.
Having said that and being a westerner, do you think the course western nations have taken for a while now culminating in the insanity dominating the Left think and destroying social foundations, is worth supporting in itself (I’m well aware that its’ collapse is already creating a vacuum that socialism is starting to fill, so it can’t be discussed in real terms. It is collapsing and a new paradigm is already coming)

The powers that be, both the seen and unseen, knew everything there was to know about Islam. They knew before you or I did that wide open “migration/immigration” of Muslims would bring utter chaos to their societies. There is no question of “they should have known this or they should have done that” – they lied to their own people, their electorate – a first year social studies student could have accurately predicted the mayhem that was to follow and has.

The obvious question then is, why? The only obvious answer is, that they wanted the chaos so as to advance their agenda towards a new order of things. One with no borders, no identifiable dominant culture, no sense of nationalism, and controlled by one central government with an appointed master. They declared war on us and many are still unaware of it. This is no social experiment, this is for keeps, and they mean to win. With their goal in sight, they will stop at nothing to push through to victory and have so far, conducted their campaign brilliantly.
There is no immediate bright future ahead for America or anywhere else. Once Trump is out of office, the slide America was on towards being absorbed by these “powers”, will resume with a vengeance. The Constitution no less, would have to be amended to be able to take legal action against the spread of Islam within America’s shores. Islam is the hammer, the tool used to bring about their desired conditions.
The next question is, did the West deserve what has befallen her. You may not like my answer, but there is a core issue that set all this in motion and that which you don’t like is just getting started.

David
David
5 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

The leaders know all about this. They planned it.

Bill Kay
Bill Kay
5 years ago
Reply to  David

Correct they knew and know about this because there is no way they couldn’t have known unless they are so stupid they should be locked up in a Mental Institution , which by the way might be a way to rid of the fools .

Bill Kay
Bill Kay
5 years ago
Reply to  David

Correct they knew and know about this because there is no way they couldn’t have known unless they are so stupid they should be locked up in a Mental Institution , which by the way might be a way to rid of the fools .

brock marks
brock marks
5 years ago

follow the money, these “news organizations” are propped up by arabs, and the petrol dollar to undermine society. its called soft power projection, its also whats behind the “green new deal”, thats basically a way to introduce socialism and destroy the economy of the free world, at the benefit of oil producing states.

az
az
5 years ago

If this sticks, they’ll be normalizing every other “benefits” islam brings, like paedophilia. Ali, the muslim pedobear approves.

felix1999
felix1999
5 years ago

LONDONISTAN: Somali Muslim gang bangers killing each other with knives
FEBRUARY 23, 2018
The murder of two young Somali Muslim men within three hours of each other this week in north London highlights the brutal gang violence that has gripped parts of the immigrant community, predominantly Somali Muslim communities.
https://barenakedislam.com/2018/02/23/londonistan-somali-muslim-gang-bangers-killing-each-other-with-knives/comment image

Suresh
Suresh
5 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

The stats are from 1 year Jump ? Its not comment image clear .

Brit voters supporting Tories/labour have been foolish and ignorant and paying the price but still don’t
get it !

Trump was correct in exposing the jihadi paki mayor of London http://bit.ly/2svuNZ3

Of course as usual he was called “racist” for it ! LOL !

Dalit
Dalit
5 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Going as planned. It took couple hundred years to conquer Spain.

Dave Glynn
Dave Glynn
5 years ago
Reply to  Dalit

Re-read what felix is writing and you will see it’s about Somalis killing Somalis!

Dave Glynn
Dave Glynn
5 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

If the Somali gangs keep stabbing and killing other Somali gangs then I’m going to organise a Geller Report readers crowdfunding to equip them all with free knives.

evangeline golding
evangeline golding
5 years ago
Reply to  Dave Glynn

H3ll yeah!!! I’m certainly not going to complain if they’re killing each other!

tonvar
tonvar
5 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Read this article about knife crime in DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6770905/MPs-police-clash-27-teens-stabbed-death-year.html

The most glaring statistic in all the names and pictures of the dead is that almost all of them are either black or muslim. There are no Hindu or Buddhist names even though they are as much a minority, nor are there any ethnic Chinese or South-East Asians. And yet DM and other rags do not want to confront this simple truth that there is something terribly wrong with both societies. Much like they sweep under the rug the glaring fact that almost all members of grooming gangs who target White and Sikh women for sex and slavery are Muslim, preferring to use the generic term Asian thus smearing ethnic Non-muslim Asians. Go figure.

felix1999
felix1999
5 years ago

Idiots!
They don’t accept that Muslims will behead or stab them in less than a blink of an eye.

Ari
Ari
5 years ago

A very irresponsible article by the Guardian, which claims that “there’s nothing inherently wrong with being radical”. The Guardian promotes radicalism and tries to understand muslims’ unacceptable behavior. Once again the Guardian disseminates leftist propaganda. comment image A BBC journalist

evangeline golding
evangeline golding
5 years ago
Reply to  Ari

Not trying to understand it, because that doesn’t exactly take a genius, (and there are none of them at the guardian) but justifying it.
Exactly what you’d expect from a leftist, or a moslem.
He’s is right on one thing, though. This ‘prevent’ cr*p doesn’t work. So for everyone’s safety, better get rid of the lot of them.

Dave Glynn
Dave Glynn
5 years ago

Such a shame that this once mighty newspaper doesn’t stand up for the truth instead of the globalist claptrap that it is now known for. It has been loosing its readership for so long that it now barely lumps along but still they maintain the same old liberal leftist make believe.
I know that the Guardian’s reputation was born for sticking up for obvious right against obvious wrong but somewhere along the line they seemed to have forgotten their stance and now just follow the lefty globalistic narrative. They need to re-asses where they are going and exactly what kind of world they want for the future. It should be obvious to the minds behind this current rag that was once The Manchester Guardian and read around the globe for its insight and wisdom that they are heading for oblivion.

evangeline golding
evangeline golding
5 years ago
Reply to  Dave Glynn

I’m afraid I only remember it as the guardian, (but I didn’t bother with the broadsheets until I was well into my 20’s) and it was a leftist snot-rag of a broadsheet even back then.
But then most papers these days are. I don’t buy them anymore, unless there’s a particularly amusing storyline I want to follow up.

Dave Glynn
Dave Glynn
5 years ago

It was well before my time that it was called The Manchester Guardian but I’ve always been interested In the history of media and the Guardian at one time was one of the most respected journals of the world.
Things change!

evangeline golding
evangeline golding
5 years ago
Reply to  Dave Glynn

Then that really is a great shame. We need more decent newspapers with proper journalists doing their real jobs.
The Manchester Guardian was obviously one we couldn’t afford to lose.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
5 years ago

An article written by a f’ing muslum stating it’s OK to be a “radical” muslum, how surprising…NOT.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
5 years ago

And, it’s OK for a cockroach to be a cockroach.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
5 years ago

So did you ever get your honorary membership in the Nippon master race?

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
5 years ago

Nah. And, now that my mother-in-law is gone …. I don’t know if I’ll even be granted entry into that nation.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
5 years ago

My condolences on your family’s loss.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
5 years ago

Thank you. I believe that you offered your sincere condolences, back in December. The real heart breaker was, since it was right before Christmas, Mieko couldn’t get a flight out in time to make the services. Of course, it was MY fault. I kid you not …. she blamed me. But, what else is to be expected?

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
5 years ago

I suppose you could’ve chartered a Gulfstream G650 and gone in style and flown non-stop.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
5 years ago

Unfortunately, my Leer Global 8000 was down for service.

MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
5 years ago

No wonder she complained!

Dave Glynn
Dave Glynn
5 years ago

As your Lordship is more than aware A cockroach is a cockroach is a cockroach and can not be anything other.
Send in the bug man!

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
5 years ago
Reply to  Dave Glynn

Orkin to the rescue.

Dave Glynn
Dave Glynn
5 years ago

I’ve got a pal who’s a Ratcatcher and his usual patch is around Westminster which is infested with rats and roaches
He’s a busy bloke and the tales he tells of the vermin both human and non are interesting to say the least. I’ll tell you more some time.

Achmed Mohandjob
Achmed Mohandjob
5 years ago
Reply to  Dave Glynn

Have him write a novel, “Tales of a Ratcatcher”.

Nabi Rasch
Nabi Rasch
5 years ago

Clearly insane article only adds to one unending certainty: Muslims are a lot of trouble.

Michelle
Michelle
5 years ago

Why does anyone take notice of this leftist sewer?

Hussars2018
Hussars2018
5 years ago

The Guardian is owned by Scott Trust Limited.

The chief investors/owners of this group are hidden or hard to find out – they would be the principal majority shareholders.
THOSE people are responsible .
Those people are the Globalists,
Neat system isn’t it? We don’t get to see who really pulls the strings and nobody has a clue who is killing us..

David
David
5 years ago

The “dynamic potential” of these Muslims is only of harm to anyone besides their own community. As such, rather than considering them countrymen, they need to be repressed.

Using the same sort of words that are used for positive descriptions of young people, like “potential”, isn’t quite appropriate in this context. Because the potential is negative for everyone else. You can tell by asking them how they will contribute to the broader society. They’ll look at you as if you have two noses and five ears. What an inappropriate question — asking them to contribute to others!

Alleged-Comment
Alleged-Comment
5 years ago

IS he telling us to shoot them on sight? That we have no choice? It’s either YOU or them?

Alleged-Comment
Alleged-Comment
5 years ago

IS he telling us to shoot them on sight? That we have no choice? It’s either YOU or them?

LeslieFish
LeslieFish
5 years ago

To quote a Canadian folksong: “Break the law, before the law breaks you.”

One weapon which even UK law can’t reasonably take away from you is a small portable CO2 fire extinguisher. You have perfectly good reason for carrying one on the street, given the number of fires being set in public these days. A quick shot of cold CO2 in his open yawping mouth will discourage your average Muslim long enough to let you escape, and the smallest model of CO2 fire-extinguisher can fit handily in a common duffel-bag.

Badger
Badger
5 years ago
Reply to  LeslieFish

The ones I’ve seen look too big and heavy for every day carry. What make and model would you recommend?

Badger
Badger
5 years ago

Thanks. I’ll see if I can get something like this in the UK. They don’t ship that one to the UK.

Dalit
Dalit
5 years ago

You love them so much why dont you Marry them. Might toughen your backbone. DNA.

Roma Mikhasev
Roma Mikhasev
5 years ago

The bacillus of islam makes animals out of people, this psychotropic weapon must be banned in Europe, Australia and in both the Americas, the carriers of the infection must be isolated and expelled.

evangeline golding
evangeline golding
5 years ago
Reply to  Roma Mikhasev

If islam really made animals out of people, the world would be a much better place for it.
Animals are good creatures, they don’t behave in all the vile, perverted ways moslems do.

Dorrie - Conservative
Dorrie - Conservative
5 years ago

Animals have no ability to feel remorse. Therefore, Moslems are animals. But the difference is that real animals can be trained and Moslems can’t.

Badger
Badger
5 years ago

What did the muslims bring to my country (England) that we needed so badly, that we didn’t already have? Curry chefs? OK, so we import 500 Bangladeshi curry chefs. That’s quite enough, we don’t need any more. And anyway, my wife could produce as good a curry as anything I could get in a restaurant if she wanted to spend three hours preparing, there’s no magic in it.

Anything else? Uber drivers? Are you kidding? Find me a Brit who can’t drive a car. Mobile phone repairs? – plenty of Brits can do that. Run a corner shop? Napoleon called us a nation of shop keepers.

Is that it? I can’t think of anything else that muslims do in the UK. The rest are all on benefits. I do know that every terror attack that has killed British citizens was committed by a muslim. And Jo Cox’s murderer was not a terrorist, he was just crazy and pissed off, and the guy that drove a car into a crowd of muslims after prayers was only retaliating for the murders of British men women and children by muslims.

A million white British girls would not have been raped and murdered if we had banned muslims from coming here. And it is still going on. Because the police, the CPS, politicians, social workers, council staff, all of them enable it to continue.

staff office
staff office
5 years ago

Everyone needs to get on Dissenter.

Salviati
Salviati
5 years ago

secular humanism — the dialectical materialism of today.

fred m
fred m
5 years ago

I think the Guardian group gets most of its money from Hedge Funds – while deploring capitalism. The newspaper runs at a loss. They love Muslims because Palestine, anti-Americanism, brown skins..

David Square
David Square
5 years ago

The writers and publishers of The Guardian are appeasers. They are terrified that a Muslim hit squad will shred their office like Charlie Hebdo’s if they deviate from their pro-Allah editorials. Freedom of speech no longer exists in Britain thanks to the influx of followers of the Ideology of Hate.

R. Arandas
R. Arandas
5 years ago

The left continues to parade its twisted alliance with Islam.

Michael Jacobs
Michael Jacobs
5 years ago

Ms. Geller is missing the point entirely, here. The Guradian article lambastes the use of the euphemism “radical” when what the writer really means to condemn is “jihadism” or “political violence.” it’s important to remember the difference.

A radical is simply someone who wants to change society “from the root,” not merely to improve and repair the existing structure of society, but replace it. While those who do not share Muslim beliefs may be aghast at the idea of replacing our Enlightenment values of openness, pluralism, and tolerance with Sharia law, and I agree we should avidly try to convince public opinion to reject such a dreary alternative to our freedoms, the very system we cherish gives those fringe thinkers the right to say it. If we start claming down on FREE SPEECH because we don’t like what is being said, how can we guarantee an unfriendly majority may, some day, try to shut down what WE are trying to say, too? Ms. Geller has plenty of personal experience in that regard to share. And I deplore the cowardly and shortsighted official efforts in the UK and elsewhere that deprive her of the right to speak.

But radicalism — of either the left, the right, or the Islamic variety — NEVER justifies political violence aimed at innocent civilians. It doesn’t matter whether we are talking about bomb-throwing 1890s radicals trying to destroy gilded-era capitalism, or 1960s radicals blowing up ROTC buildings, or modern Muslim jihadis — ALL of them are criminals, enemies of the peace, and should be caught and prosecuted. THE GUARDIAN THINKS SO TOO:

“The public is justified in feeling revulsion towards returning
marauders, whose crimes should be prosecuted with the full force of
British and international law.”

That’s a direct quote from Ms. Geller’s article, quoting the Guardian article. Don’t we ALL agree with that? Thanks for reading.

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