Songs fo Love and Hate on an Open Thread

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Leonard Cohen is everything.

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Tim Peck
Tim Peck
5 years ago

Seminal work.

Monique Thomson-Bean
Monique Thomson-Bean
5 years ago

I’ve seen him 5x in concert and the older he got, the better he got. He had fun again after years of misfortune and getting screwed. We had to learn about his poetry in English class in grade 8 (Canada). As a teenager it was “weird” for me to like him instead of all the other rock my friends were listening to in the 70’s. He will always be my favorite and I’m more upset by his death than any other artist.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
5 years ago

In the 1960’s, Cohen gained a degree of popular renown, but beyond that his appeal was limited to a rather limited audience. In would be almost unimaginable for an aspiring popular artist today to speak with the complexity and rich imagery that Cohen employed.

I might disagree with you on one point, however. I’m not sure he recaptured the heights he achieved with Songs of Leonard Cohen (e.g. Suzanne) and Songs From a Room (e.g. The Partisan).

With regard to the latter song, which I listened to again this morning, a line stood out to me that in a way it did not when I first heard it. At the risk of becoming political, which I do want to be just now, the line was:

I took my gun and vanished

Sadly, in real life, the would be partisan almost certainly had no gun.

Chris Wolf
Chris Wolf
5 years ago

Comey calls the suggestion that he and Mueller and Rosenstein and Clinton and obama should obey the law “nonsense.”

Lory
Lory
5 years ago

Vlad is Jewish too, but you can’t find it in Wikipedia
https://fundatiaenescu.ro/ro/vladimir-cosma-2/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Cosma

Lory
Lory
5 years ago

European influenced

Jews with witty lyrics
https://bit.ly/2b2fW1v
https://bit.ly/2BXuAoh

Lory
Lory
5 years ago
Reply to  Lory

Second link again
https://bit.ly/2b2eiwF

Eric Stewart was the only non-Jew
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10cc

https://bit.ly/2E5kljf

Gareth Jones’ Remix of “I’m not in love”
wonderwul Jewish irony despite melancholy
the writer himself never liked this diamond
http://www.garethjones.com/Music/music/bitsAndPieces/files/imNotInLove.mp3

Lory
Lory
5 years ago

This is not exceptionally Jewish but worth to listen to.It carries itself, gets along without any lalala singing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Rother
https://bit.ly/2bzaN0d

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
5 years ago
Reply to  Lory

Lory, I listened a bit to Michael Rother, an artist with whom I was unfamiliar. Pleasing, in a small way: energetic, cheerful, perhaps even inventive. But I was struck by the lack of development and, I would say, the lack of meaning that the music contained.

But it cannot be compared with great music. It is trivial compared to, say, Bach’s Goldberg Variations. Electronic music has never, and I doubt ever will, hold a candle to acoustic instruments in the hands of skilled musicians. Subtlety seems inexpressible in the electronic domain.

Electronics, I suppose, can produce sounds that an acoustic instrument cannot, but there are far richer musical veins to explore. For example, I recently heard my first live performance of Carl Neilson’s fourth symphony (“The Indistinguishable”) which had never left a big impression on me when I heard recordings of it. But live, the rich colors of an orchestra, so splendidly blended by a fine composer, quite leaves Rother looking rather pale.

Unfortunately, society today prefers the immediate gratification of pleasing, if vapid, music over the two very contrasting works I cited.

Lory
Lory
5 years ago

I see what you mean. Interestingly, it is exactly this “triviality” that I find worth listening to in Rother’s music. It doesn’t attack you and leaves you alone. Without being a mainstream mass product, however. so to speak feel-good music or relaxation music without lyrics.

Music for children to dream about. However, for adults by adults. You also have to consider the time and the limited technical possibilities in the 70s. All in all, I agree with you that synthetically produced music cannot have the same degree of emotionality as acoustic or even classical music.

Lory
Lory
5 years ago

Music is like cars: they have lost their own form, individuality and character. We are not looking for the copy, but the unmistakable original. Electronics were probably created to compensate a lack of virtuosity or musical education. When Wendy Carlos played the Moog Bach, it was an innovation. But at least in the 80s music became a disposable product. Music must exist even if you unplug it from the wall socket.

Dave Glynn
Dave Glynn
5 years ago

I’ve always loved that album and every song speaks to my very soul.
GOD BLESS YOU LEONANRD COHEN RIP

Alleged-Comment
Alleged-Comment
5 years ago

Weird! Why is everybody mentioning people with the last name of Cohen? Another article came out about the mob in the early 50’s mentioning a Mr. Cohen (apparent mob enforcer) in a book release coming out..

Is this a some kind of psy-op because Trump’s lawyer got indicted?

Ciaran Reid
Ciaran Reid
5 years ago

I hope they fed Heather Heyer’s corpse to hyenas.comment image

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