[ April 18, 2024 ]
Prime Minister Imran Khan of Pakistan claimed recently, during remarks in Islamabad celebrating Mawlid, the birthday of Islam’s prophet, that “Moses is mentioned, but there is no mention of Jesus in history.”
This extraordinary remark ignores, in the first place, the texts of Islam itself. In the Qur’an, Jesus is mentioned 25 times by the name Isa, 48 times in the third person, 35 times in the first person, and the rest through his titles and attributes. He is the person most mentioned, after Muhammad (who is only mentioned by name four times, although there are numerous other references to him as “the messenger” and other titles) in the Qur’an. If Jesus did not exist, then what, Imran Khan needs to explain, are we to make of all those times he is mentioned in the Qur’an? Was Allah mistaken? Was Muhammad? And what shall we make of Sura 19, named for Mary (Maryam), the mother of Jesus, who is mentioned more often in the Qur’an than in the New Testament?
Jesus is not to be found just in the Qur’an. There are several references to him by Muhammad himself, to be found in the most reliable (Sahih) collections of Bukhari and Muslim. Is Imran Khan unaware of the more than 100 mentions of Jesus in the Qur’an and in the Hadith? If so, is he not demonstrating to the very Muslims whom he is trying to court with his astonishing claim that there is “no mention of Jesus in history,” that he is not well acquainted with the Qur’an and hadith?
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What of non-Muslim texts? Jesus began to be mentioned, within 20 years of his death in 30-33 A.D., in the Epistles of St. Paul, and within 40 years, in the New Testament Gospels. There were many eyewitnesses still alive when these accounts in St. Paul and the Gospels appeared. The descriptions given in the accounts of Jesus about the culture and geography of first-century Palestine match what we know from other sources.
Simon Gathercole, a Reader in New Testament Studies at the University of Cambridge, offers a good reason for suspecting that Jesus was not invented: “It is also difficult to imagine why Christian writers would invent such a thoroughly Jewish savior figure in a time and place – under the aegis of the Roman empire – where there was strong suspicion of Judaism.” If you’re going to invent such a figure, why make him Jewish at all?
Gathercole continues:
As far as we know, the first author outside the church to mention Jesus is the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, who wrote a history of Judaism around AD93. He has two references to Jesus. One of these is controversial because it is thought to be corrupted by Christian scribes (probably turning Josephus’s negative account into a more positive one), but the other is not suspicious – a reference to James, the brother of “Jesus, the so-called Christ.”
About 20 years after Josephus we have the Roman politicians Pliny and Tacitus, who held some of the highest offices of state at the beginning of the second century AD. From Tacitus we learn that Jesus was executed while Pontius Pilate was the Roman prefect in charge of Judaea (AD26-36) and Tiberius was emperor (AD14-37) – reports that fit with the time-frame of the gospels. Pliny contributes the information that, where he was governor in northern Turkey, Christians worshipped Christ as a god. Neither of them liked Christians – Pliny writes of their “pig-headed obstinacy” and Tacitus calls their religion a destructive superstition.
Strikingly, there was never any debate in the ancient world about whether Jesus of Nazareth was a historical figure. In the earliest literature of the Jewish Rabbis, Jesus was denounced as the illegitimate child of Mary and a sorcerer. Among pagans, the satirist Lucian and philosopher Celsus dismissed Jesus as a scoundrel, but we know of no one in the ancient world who questioned whether Jesus lived.
Imran Khan is not an ignoramus. He attended the Royal Grammar School in Worcester, England and Keble College, Oxford, where he received his degree in Economics and Politics with honors. He ought to have known that there is great deal of written evidence, from Roman, Christian, and later, Islamic sources, for the existence of Israel. In making his astonishing remark, Khan looks foolish to the outside world, and to educated Pakistanis, too. But he doesn’t care. His intended audience are the Pakistani masses, eager to hear anyone call Christianity, or the existence of Christ himself, into question.
Imran Khan thinks he needs to curry favor these Muslim masses by denigrating Christianity. He is regarded by many Pakistani Muslims with suspicion. Some believe he studied in the United Kingdom for far too long, acquiring all sorts of dangerous non-Muslim ideas. Still more disturbing to these masses, his first wife was Jemima Goldsmith, the daughter of a billionaire businessman, Sir James Goldsmith, who, though a Christian, came from a long line of Jewish bankers. Imran Khan has repeatedly noted that Jemima was raised as a Christian, and when she married Khan, converted to Islam. But after divorcing her, he still supported her brother Frank Zacharias Goldsmith, whom Pakistanis regard as “a Jew,” when he stood for Parliament. Finally, Imran Khan had a few conversations, nothing more, with an Israeli-American celebrity journalist, Daphne Barak (in the Pakistani press, she was continually, and wrongly, identified as a relative of Ehud Barak). His political opponents in Pakistan have taken to calling him a “Zionist agent.”
Still another concern for Imran Khan is the tell-all book written by his second wife, Reham Khan — he is now on his third — that just appeared this past summer, and in which she tells about his heavy use — six grams a night — of cocaine.
Imran Khan is currently conducting a campaign to improve relations with India. He has promised, for example, to create a corridor that will allow Sikhs in India to have visa-free access from India to the Sikh temple in the Pakistani village of Kartarpur. This Gurdwara Darbar Sahib Kartarpur is one of the holiest places in Sikhism. It’s believed to have been built on the site where Guru Nanak, the founder of the religion, died in the 16th century. Khan’s outreach to Sikhs and Hindus in India, at this point, keeps him from India-bashing.
As for Israel and Jews, he has offered the standard Pakistani hard line, and his country’s policies could hardly be made even more anti-Israel than they have been.
What’s left for Imran Khan to attack in order to shore up Muslim support? It’s to undermine or attack the other historic enemy of Islam — Christianity, the religion of the West. And what better way to do this than to call into question the very existence “in history” of Jesus Christ himself?
Judging by the response on social media to his remarks so far, the Pakistani public seems equally divided. Some are all for denying any evidence for the existence of Jesus, and applaud Imran Khan. Others, however, are embarrassed at Khan’s display of ignorance, and especially at his failing to note the frequent mention of Jesus in the Qur’an.
One final thought. Right now, the Pakistani government is holding Asia Bibi, the Christian woman recently acquitted of charges of blasphemy, after she had been held for eight years in solitary confinement, in protective custody. She remains a prisoner of the state which now protects her, because of the mobs which would kill her if they could. One assumes Imran Khan’s government is now seeking a country, likely the United States, willing to take in Asia Bibi. Given the fury of the hundreds of thousands of Pakistanis currently engaged in a search to find, and punish, Asia Bibi, no matter what the Pakistani Supreme Court decided, and given the rage that will erupt if, and when, she is safely transferred to another country, Imran Khan’s remark about Jesus might also have been prompted by a desire to reassure Pakistanis that even if he allows Asia Bibi to leave the country, no one should underestimate his contempt for Christianity, as he hoped to show in declaring there to be no evidence “in history” of Jesus having existed.
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79 Comments
5 years ago
Muslims are incapable of telling the truth. Imagine having a nation full of them. No wonder they all are $h!t hole countries.
5 years ago
Reply to
peakpower
And each one speaking taquiya or one of the dozen or so forms of lying that the koran makes permissible.
They can’t even trust each other so how are we to trust muzrats?
The answer of course is that you can Never trust a Muzrat!
5 years ago
imran khan, like most muslims, is trying to change history.
5 years ago
He might mean that I’m not on Wikipedia.
5 years ago
Imran Khan looks awful. Must be some powerful marijuana he’s been smoking. He has dark bags under his eyes and his skin looks like leather. Must be a heavy cocaine user.
The years have not been kind to Imran Khan and he has aged terribly.
He looks like he’s been snorting a lot of cocaine and hasn’t slept for the past twenty years.
His beautiful first ex-wife Jemima Goldsmith was smart to dump him.
5 years ago
Reply to
Narcissist in Chief
That thing looks more like something that shoots crystal methedrine … then drinks a fifth of cheap whiskey, in order to sleep. Buzz, buzz, and collapse.
5 years ago
Reply to
Achmed Mohandjob
He always did turn my stomach.
Why any white woman would get within feet of a paki is beyond me.
5 years ago
Reply to
Achmed Mohandjob
Yes, indeed. I was careless not to think of that. Must have been because my stomach was still churning at the though of ever having to get within feet of one 🙂
5 years ago
Reply to
evangeline golding
Did it stop at churning? Were you able to change the mental picture, prior to the churning turning into heaving?
5 years ago
Reply to
Achmed Mohandjob
Lol, I was not. I did manage to calm it down before before I threw up though, so that was a big plus.
5 years ago
Reply to
Narcissist in Chief
But she was beyond an idiot to convert to islum, the religion of death, destruction and fascism.
5 years ago
Reply to
Narcissist in Chief
That’s what six grams of Charlie a night will do, Skin like leather and brain like a sieve.
His ex wife is just a posh slag as is any woman that would shag a paki.
5 years ago
Reply to
Dave Glynn
Absolutely! No woman with any self respect or notion of cleanliness would touch those grim and filthy perverts.
Ick! Better get jemima some jeyes and a wire brush.
5 years ago
Reply to
evangeline golding
It’d take more than a bath in bleach.
I feel despetley sorry for the young girls that these Muzrat monsters groom and rape.
They are scarred and ruined for life. That crime can only start to be paid for with the life of the perpetrators and then everything that they and their families own and then given to the victims or their families.
Goodnight and God bless’ eva.
5 years ago
Reply to
Dave Glynn
I do too. I admire their guts and courage in making lives for themselves after that kind of evil has been visited on them.
I think it should be the lives of the perpetrators and their families though, after all, they had to learn it somewhere, and I doubt if their families, friends, imans, etc would give a damn about the horrors unleashed on those poor children.
Goodnight and G-d bless to you too, Dave.
5 years ago
Reply to
Narcissist in Chief
She was incredibly stupid and ignorant to have anything to do with him or his vile death cult in the first place.
5 years ago
I thought Muslims were supposed to respect and honor the Prophet Jesus? Or at least pretend to?
5 years ago
Reply to
R. Arandas
I’ve read that Jesus, as Issa, returns to act as an agent of destruction for islum in the end times — leading the effort to exterminate all unbelievers in islum worldwide, an idea very much out-of-character for the Yeshua of Christianity.
5 years ago
Unjust Muhammad said that Jesuists say that his spiritual leader was crucified while he claims that to be false & that this Jesus, he calls him Isa will return as “just ruler” (the motifs justice & truth have the meaning of injustice & forced theism in unjust Muhammad’s worldview) when stones & trees will incite Muhammadists to kill Jews & that this Isa will break the cross which might mean the symbol of Jesuists or the cross as symbol of the unjust Muhammad-law which commands crucifixions for critics, kill the pig wich might refer to Jews as unjust Muhammad declared Jews descendants of apes & pigs or to Muhammadism or to pig as food-source & to an abolition of the haram-halal food restriction & abolish the Jizya extortion tax which might either mean the conversion of all Jews & Christians to the unjust Muhammadism, the abolition of it or maybe mass-murder.
5 years ago
Old imran khant
5 years ago
Reply to
harbidoll
Khant do fk all’ just like his namesake the mayor of London.
Another useless paki Khant!
5 years ago
Reply to
SemurJengkolMaknyus
Little semen jerkoff is back. Did you just finish sucking off your OWN male offspring, as you BRAGGED about doing. And, how is your son’s homosexual pornography acting career going?
5 years ago
Reply to
SemurJengkolMaknyus
How is the homosexual porn acting career, of your son, coming along?
5 years ago
Reply to
SemurJengkolMaknyus
I was hoping the Indonesian tidal wave had swept you away to your little boy and 72 virgin rewards in allah’s heavenly whorehouse. May Indonesia (spit) have many more tidal waves muslum chumpanzee!
5 years ago
Reply to
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
you hope for more tidal wave ???
judeoPORNnistianity love and compassions at work ….
5 years ago
Reply to
SemurJengkolMaknyus
Somehow, everything always leads to porn with you. Do you do anything besides fantasizing about gay porn and pleasuring your own male offspring?
5 years ago
Reply to
santashandler
do you think it’s good to get familiar with those western filths ???
5 years ago
Reply to
SemurJengkolMaknyus
Western filth is the best. That’s why all you degenerates want to come here. I mean, we’ve got Disneyland dammit! What have you got, besides a worn out village donkey
5 years ago
Reply to
santashandler
a worn out village donkey is a sign of pure and natural life ..
..much better than worn out b*tt holes due to pervert western life …. wakakakkakak..
5 years ago
Reply to
SemurJengkolMaknyus
I’ll take the “pervert western life” over your tainted donkey any day. So, get off the keyboard and back to plowing that ‘ass.’ Because its what you do best
5 years ago
All religions are tolerated in Pakistan except for Christianity, but Christian nations/states are expected to tolerate all other religions. Something got to give sooner or later.
5 years ago
Reply to
Rick Gouveia
“All religions are tolerate in Pakistan except for Christianity…” R U insane? Hindus and Sikhs are subject to the same kind of oppression and persecution Christians are, that’s why there’s fewer and fewer of them in Pakistain annually.
5 years ago
Reply to
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
The Pakistan government issues special visas and protection to Hindus and Sikhs who visit Pakistan on pilgrimages to their shrines. The Hindu and Sikh population in Pakistan are growing. The Christian population is shrinking as most are fleeing persecution.
5 years ago
Reply to
Rick Gouveia
Um, the Hindu population of Pakistain is 2%, at partition it was 12%, and it’s decreasing annually and not because Hindus are in any way protected in Pakistain.
5 years ago
Reply to
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
I noticed that time is the main trigger of arguments. If the time zones or timing is out then a heated debate will go nowhere even though our basic beliefs may be the same.
5 years ago
Reply to
Rick Gouveia
5 years ago
Reply to
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
Examine the statistics on blasphemy convictions (religious death sentences) in Pakistan from 1987 to 2016 according to the Center for Social Justice. Of those, 730 were Muslims (internal fighting for control, so disregard because dogs will always eat dogs), 501 were Ahmedis (a form of Christianity disguised as muslims), 205 were “open” Christians and 26 were Hindus. So basically the statistics for serious persecutions in Pakistan is 706 for “Christians”, 26 for Hindus and zero for the rest. That means a massive 96% of serious persecutions was against “Christians” since 1987 to 2016. https://www.apnews.com/e04a5257f7994c35b2f3afe1f5a4413d
5 years ago
Reply to
Rick Gouveia
Bullshite!
Many of the approximately
2 million Hindus in Pakistan are compelled to pay regular
sums, as a type of ransom, to extortionists and local
leaders in exchange for the physical security of
their families and themselves. (iii) It is
conventional wisdom that no job higher than a
clerk’s post may be obtained by a Hindu. Furthermore,
Hindus usually need a Muslim as a silent partner in order
to run a business.
Many Hindu temples have
been desecrated, destroyed, or converted into government
offices in Pakistan. In 1992 alone, hundreds of
Hindu temples were destroyed in Pakistan in
response to communal riots in India, in which
Pakistani Hindus played no role. Despite official
promises to rebuild these temples, in many cases, little or
no action has been taken to redress the situation. Illegal
encroachments on Hindu temples and lands, molestation
and abduction of Hindu girls, demanding of huge
ransoms in kidnap cases, and frequent arrests of
Hindus on false charges have become commonplace in
Pakistan.
5 years ago
Reply to
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
Hindus also practice Christianity, they believe Jesus (Ishu) and God to be one; so 100% of all deadly serious persecutions involving blood and gore (excluding minor persecutions) in Pakistan is towards “Christians” (any religion that believes that Christ and God are one).
5 years ago
Reply to
Rick Gouveia
Stop lying you f’ing sh!testain! The f’ing muslums of Pakistain slaughtered a MILLION Hindus and Sikhs following the partition in ’48’.
5 years ago
Reply to
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
My initial post is about the current situation (the last decade) in Pakistan and I was not referring to any historical events. My initial post about “Pakistan” I implied the Pakistani government which follows this article about the “Pakistani government”, and the rest of my initial post was referring to nations/states, so you should have figured out that I was indeed referring to the Pakistani government. Also by “Christian” I am referring to all Christian like religions that believe that Christ and God is one.
5 years ago
Reply to
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
Actually, FakeProphet, the Sikhs are oppressed and, to a lesser degree, so are the hindus. However, look at the stories, analyze the data …. Those two ain’t got nothin’ on the persecution that faces Christians in pakkyland.
5 years ago
Reply to
Rick Gouveia
Try being a Jew in Pakistan!
These people are primitive gullible and stupid to the extreme which makes them perfect for islam.
5 years ago
Benazir Bhutto, first (and probably last) woman PM of Pakistan (spit), was slandered as a zionist agent as well — and she ended up being assassinated.
5 years ago
Reply to
MuhamMUDTheFakeProphet
As did her father.
Scum politicians for scum voters in a scum country.
Pakistan is one of the worst shitholes in the world and I speak from first hand knowledge.
Pakis are toxic and should be kept at a great distance.
5 years ago
Reply to
Hook
So does England mate.
There have been many threats and scares of a terrorist attack at a match and sooner or later it’s going to happen.
I would keep well away.
Merry Christmas!
5 years ago
Reply to
Dave Glynn
Yep, Merry Christmas and a Muslim free new year that lasts for eternity
5 years ago
This is only a prelude to a ferocious, genocidal ogrom against the few remaining Christians in Pakistan. These People Need to be removed. Perhaps, the best solution would be to remove them to the West Bank in the occupied territories and deport the Muslims to Pakistan where they can live in an Islamic “Paradise” free of Jews and Christians. The only real solution to the Palestinian problem is to remove the Muslims and leave the remaining Christians in their place.
5 years ago
Reply to
John Acord
Pakis ARE moslems, so what would be the point?
And there is NO SUCH PLACE AS THE WEST BANK IT IS JUDEA AND SAMARIA!!!!
And the only ‘occupied territories’ are those that are occupied by the illegal, invading, murderous, pestiferous arab squatters!
5 years ago
Don’t forget that when the devil is amongst us,the devil will lie a decieve to get what it wants. Just a thought, is it possible to create an ideology that only mentally subnormal humans are magnetised to???
5 years ago
Another politician playing to the gallery.
It seems to be a disease that they are particularly prone to and the only remedy is the votes of the gullible.
5 years ago
this is why the brits created pakistan, a place to put all these muslim animals so they would leave us alone. ask the indian hindus what they think of muslims
5 years ago
The Muslims are more obsessed with Christ than Muhammad and the Koran is supposed to be mostly about him.
5 years ago
just another Qaddafi, or similar distraction
5 years ago
I’ve heard Josephus described as a traitor to the Jewish people because of his close association w/the corrupt, decadent, rotten, degenerate Roman Empire.
5 years ago
dude looks like the spawn of Qaddafi and a Ford Pinto
