[ April 24, 2024 ]
UPDATE: Shooter identified as Ian Long.
https://twitter.com/abc7jory/status/1060446535459041282?s=12
This is likely to be a jihad attack, but true to form, most of the enemedia accounts of it this morning do not mention what ABC7’s Jory Rand tweets below, that an eyewitness described the bloodthirsty gunman as “middle eastern looking with a beard.” As always, after every jihad attack, the media’s first (self-appointed) job is to protect the image of Islam and cover up the truth in hopes of trying to prevent a fictional “islamophobic” “backlash.” This may turn out to have been something other than a jihad attack, but if it really is a jihad attack, the media would be doing the same coverup.
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“13 dead in mass shooting at Thousand Oaks bar, including gunman and sheriff’s deputy,” Associated Press, November 8, 2018:
THOUSAND OAKS — Thirteen people are dead after a gunman opened fire on a crowd at a country dance bar holding a weekly “college night” Wednesday in Southern California, sending hundreds fleeing in terror including some who used barstools to break windows and escape, authorities said.
The dead included 11 people inside the bar, the gunman and a sheriff’s sergeant who was the first officer inside the door, Ventura County Sheriff Geoff Dean said.
“It’s a horrific scene in there,” Dean said at a news conference early Thursday in the parking lot of the Borderline Bar & Grill. “There’s blood everywhere.”
The gunman was tall and wearing all black with a hood over his head and his face partly covered, witnesses told TV stations at the scene. He first fired on a person working the door then appeared to open fire at random at the people inside, they said.
Many more people had more minor injuries, including some that came from the attempt to flee, Dean said.
Sheriff’s Sgt. Ron Helus and a passing highway patrolman were responding to several 911 calls when they arrived at the Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks at about 11:20 p.m., the sheriff said. They heard gunfire and went inside.
Helus was immediately hit with multiple gunshots, Dean said. The highway patrolman cleared the perimeter and pulled Helus out, and waited as a SWAT team and scores more officers arrived.
https://twitter.com/ABC7Jory/status/1060446535459041282?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1060446535459041282&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailynews.com%2Fpolice-respond-to-reported-mass-shooting-in-thousand-oaks
By the time they entered the bar again the gunfire had stopped, and they found 12 people dead inside, including the gunman.
It’s not yet clear how the gunman died, and authorities do not yet know his name or have any idea of a motive, Dean said….
“It was really, really really shocking,” Whitler told KABC-TV as she stood with her father in the Borderline parking lot. “It looked like he knew what he was doing.”…
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54 Comments
5 years ago
authorities do not yet know his name or have any idea of a motive, Dean said….
And if Islam is part of his motivating ideology, they never will.
5 years ago
They are aided by the dumb , ignorant Left/Liberal loons coming out of colleges/schools run by pro-jihadi left/liberal loons
And by the time they realise their stupidity they get assaulted , gang raped or murdered like this couple its too late for them https://tinyurl.com/yahupccy
Problem is they enable evil while not able to see evil thanks to pro-jihadi left/liberal indoctrination in schools/colleges where real history of islam and America is no longer taught.
5 years ago
Protecting the image of islam is right since these news media are propaganda mouthpieces for islam and Antisemitism.
5 years ago
The authority has the ID of the murderer, but do not disclose his name. In Western Europe, media cover up identity if he is a migrant or a Muslim.
5 years ago
Reply to
Jan Favre
Agreed, just as in this case. The cops were feigning ignorance on each and every point being made by the eyewitnesses. If nothing else, if this jackwad turns out to be a “home-grown terorist” who served in “Dumbf*ckistan”, he certainly learned well from the enemy.
Watch what I tell you, behind every f*cked up individual you encounter, there is at least one f*cked up parent, but most times, two.
5 years ago
Sure fits the pattern of Muslim terrorism. The identity will be released after the investigation confirms its facts or the case is completed. Pretty quick to suspect the agencies of coverup, they tend toward not wanting to release bum info or taint a case…
5 years ago
There has been nothing but wall-to-wall coverage on this. Not once has any news source said one single thing about the mass murderer. Still know nothing about the mass murderer. Normally, when there’s that type of blackout, it turns out to be some “moderate moslem”.
5 years ago
Reply to
Achmed Mohandjob
Agreed. The authorities held off so long to bring the shooter into the story, going so far as to say his dead ass was yet to be ID’d, it seemed possible to hop a plane here in TX to fly to CA and see for myself.
5 years ago
From the first report, he shot the bouncer, and then shot the young woman working at the cashiers window point blank, then throws smoke bombs and opens fire into the crowd.
A planned event like Las Vegas both the event itself was advertised and the shooter had time to study and make extensive plans.
Country western venues and dance halls attract many white republicans, so logically they are targeted by 3 primary groups.
A Leftist maniac like in Vegas. ( political)
A Islamic maniac, like Orlando, (religious)
Or a lone wolf motivated by ( racism )
Any combination above mixes well
Research on Right Wing violence is extensive and has relatively few casualties, mostly abortion clinic damage, the OK city bombing is listed as RW but McVeigh was Atheist Anarchist not a Right Wing christian zealot like David Koresh. McVeigh timed the attack to appear as revenge for Waco,, to throw the dogs off and it worked, Janet Reno went after christian sects suspected of loyalty to the 7th day branch of the Davidian.
racist attacks against whites by blacks is a statistic that does not show anything on wiki. Since blacks account for 18% of US residents but are responsible for over 50% of murders in the USA it is a statistic that someone doesn’t want people to know.
5 years ago
Reply to
762x51FMJ
You don’t know half the facts. No he was not. His ties to islam, and the middle east are substantial and well documented. You speak about that which you do not know, or are purposely offering false information. Which is it?
5 years ago
Reply to
Josara Dezmen
Double agent, mole, Manchurian candidate, whatever you want to call him. He was not a lone shooter, nor was Ruby an irate citizen killing Oswald for revenge! Just FYI. Do some research!
5 years ago
Reply to
762x51FMJ
I am not sure what you call right wing. Many people automatically label conservative Christians as right wing. McVeigh was definitely not a Christian. I believe there is a lot more to the Oklahoma City bombing than we were ever allowed to know.
5 years ago
Reply to
movingwaters
I knew that atheists come in various stripes. Some of them are very nice, highly intelligent, and accomplished people with good lives who are in the unfortunate position of having been able to rely on their good minds and well lived lives so much that they don’t see a need for God. I do sense a bitter root in your description of conservative Christians. All around me I see churches sporting big signs at the road that say things like “Come in – Free Food. You are Welcome Here.” I see this everywhere as I drive. And I know Christian medical professionals who give a considerable amount off work time giving free medical help to the poor even though they endure the hardship of what it takes to run one man practices. In my personal experience conservative Christians do not support abortion.
The term “progressive” generally is the nice term for Communist. Communism is totally ugly, repressive, and has killed hundreds of millions of people. They hate God and will kill or imprison you for believing in God. As for free food and free healthcare I can only remind you that nothing is free. It has to come from someone. When bureaucracies administer such goodies from the theft of the taxpayers most of the funds are lost supporting the bureaucracy. So, if you want to do good, do it yourself. Band together with like minded others and do good. Christians do that all the time!
5 years ago
Reply to
movingwaters
I am so sorry I completely misinterpreted something you said. It was not an attempt at teasing. I wasn’t even remembering those very few abortionist murders. I thought you were talking about Christians who supported aborting babies. That no doubt occurs, but no one in a personal walk with God is likely to support abortion except perhaps in the rarest of cases. In fact I read most of your post entirely wrong, and thought you might just live in a place in which you don’t get to see much Christian life walked out. I was wrong.
I am trying to correct an elusive evap emissions code on my car, and sometimes have to be on the internet to research the matter. My brain is dealing with some overload, but I was not trying to twist your words. So I ask your forgiveness. Thank you.
5 years ago
Reply to
762x51FMJ
The all-in-black dress says to me it could be Antifa like Paddock…..and Paddock was claimed by ISIS; even giving his Muslim name….Mandalay Bay Corp and the Swamp FBI shut down all information about the truth…
FBI has been reporting for years that Antifa is being trained by radical Muslims abroad and here….there are no-go training zones across America ….saw a map once of the known ones…the most recent was the one in a New Mexico desert where a Muslim man and women were training children how to go into schools to shoot teachers and children…..
I don’t buy this narrative that he was only suffering from PTSD… or he was and that made him easier to recruit by radical Muslims….or the Dimms’ Antifa…..
I had such hopes for this last election that things had turned around and the violent, vicious Left would not prevail…..but now…the Dimms are in power again in the House and the next two years are going to be very scary and dangerous….especially for seniors, Hebrews, and children….
I will pray every day for President Trump, our military, and law enforcement….there are very dangerous times ahead for them and us…..
5 years ago
Reply to
ladywarrior
ladywarrior…i am agreeing with your look at ease of recruitment this shooter blatantly represents.
also your top choices for ‘recruiting agencies is on point.
well done!
5 years ago
This MIGHT not be a jihad attack, the same way the sun MIGHT not come up tomorrow!
5 years ago
Twenty-eight year old Ian Young …. whoops, now he’s twenty-nine
5 years ago
WHOA!
I thought it was a WHITE gun man. Now it is a MIDDLE EASTERN creep?
It’s a MUSLIM who hates WHITE conservatives. The way to get to parents is through their KIDS.
KILLING THEIR KIDS.
What an evil SOB.
5 years ago
This is truly shocking! Thousand Oaks has long been regarded as a very safe city. It was even designated as the top, or near the top safest city in America. So incredibly sad to look at yet another scene of such senseless carnage.
5 years ago
What is this crazy situation with gunmen running around houses of worship, malls, pubs, killing 10 to 20 people and then blowing theit own heads off?????
5 years ago
Ian Long doesn’t sound Middle Eastern!
5 years ago
Reply to
aemoreira1981
Muslim, is not a race, but a religion which has members from all races. Many convert to islam in prison. Violence attracts violence.
5 years ago
Reply to
iprazhm
Yes, that’s why every incarcerated Muslim should be sent to Gitmo where they can play with their worry beads all day long by themselves.
5 years ago
Is this article a joke? The shooter is a white guy. Former Marine with a history of mental issues.
5 years ago
Reply to
inner_explorer
You sound like an agent of Islam. I’ve heard of people like you who pretend to be non-muslim and whose job it is to spread propaganda and misinformation.
5 years ago
Reply to
inner_explorer
. . . and you are still desperately searching for yours. Give it up, you couldn’t find your ass with both hands and a flashlight.
5 years ago
Were there half a dozen off duty peace officers in that bar? If so, I’ll wager they were unarmed because policy does not allow them to be armed off duty in an establishment that serves liquor and/or they cannot consume while armed…..It’s a heavy price tag for policy……..
5 years ago
It turned out to be a white boy. A fatherless moron who wanted to be tuff on his last day on earth.
5 years ago
Muslim is not a race. It is a violent religion which indoctrinates Godless people from all races. There are many many non-middle eastern muslims;
Spot The Terrorist: Many Jihadists In America Are White, Born In The U.S.
By Abigail R. Esman “According to a recent report by the Bipartisan Policy Center’s National Security Preparedness Group, statistically speaking, the one most likely to be a Muslim terrorist is the sandy-haired guy in jeans. In fact, according to the report, the majority of Muslim jihadists in America are white and born in the USA (21%) – the one exception being Somali immigrants, who top the list at 31%.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/abigailesman/2010/11/01/spot-the-terrorist-many-jihadists-in-america-are-white-born-in-the-u-s/#214bccaa28a5
White Muslim convert defies judge as he is jailed for terror offences
“When ordered to stand, he refused saying ‘I don’t wish to stand up because I believe ruling and judgement is only for Allah'” By Terri Judd Thursday 25 April 2013
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/white-muslim-convert-defies-judge-as-he-is-jailed-for-terror-offences-8587676.html
THE ANTI-WHITE RACISM OF “MODERATE” MUSLIMS By JD MCGUIGAN APRIL 9, 2017 “…It is the propensity to constantly bring up “white terrorism” immediately after an Islamic terrorist attack anywhere in the world. This comparison makes no logical sense, unless you understand the motive behind this underhanded tactic. The comparison between whites and Muslims is a non-sequitir with no context. This is of course due to the fact that whites are a race while Muslims are not. There is no universal doctrine associated with being white, nor does one choose to be white. Contrary to Islam, which despite cultural differences within it, does subscribe universally to central doctrines. Being a Muslim is also a choice. Much like Nazism, Islam is an oppressive political ideology, and much like Scientology, Islam is a religion that makes very large claims for itself. That means when one calls himself a Muslim, he is making a bold statement about his views on the nature of reality (the religious aspect), and the way in which the infidels should be treated under the Sharia (the political aspect.) Islam is not an inherent trait. In that sense, one cannot be bigoted against Muslims any more than one can be bigoted against Nazis or Scientologists.” http://www.returnofkings.com/118483/the-anti-white-racism-of-moderate-muslims
The last article really doesn’t prove my point but it has relevant information.
5 years ago
Reply to
iprazhm
“We are a world at war. The enemy is radicalized Islamic jihadists. The terrorists certainly take advantage of the politically correct madness that consumes the West. They revel, that many in the western world are frightened to speak freely. I’ve never been accused of being politically correct. I call things the way I see them. The meaning of candid speech is frequently mischaracterized or misunderstood. This is about prioritizing national security and protecting American lives. Every measure must be taken to eliminate radical Islamic terrorism and the threat it poses to the free world. My only concern is protecting the people that live in my district, my state, and my country. We must stand strong against radical Islamic terror. The fate of the free world will be determined by the courageous, not by the intimidated.” U.S. Rep. Clay Higgins, R-La
5 years ago
Reply to
jerrys
The worse thing about it is our own government stands in defense of the islamist they themselves continue to bring into our neighborhoods, against us!
5 years ago
Muslim is not a race. It is a violent religion which indoctrinates Godless people from all races. There are many many non-middle eastern muslims.
5 years ago
‘Middle eastern’ or ‘whiteman’ It is best to get the facts before rushing into print. I see men with big beards all the time and I am positive they are not Middle Eastern
5 years ago
Reply to
leonore35
That is only possible if the media and law enforcement are giving us facts. They are not. Their story, as usual, keeps changing. They don’t do what you say we should all do, even though it is their job and their moral obligation, which is – wait until you have the facts before you rush to into print or risk giving false information.
Pamela didn’t give this information stated as fact, as she said it is ‘likely’. She made it clear that the story originated from ABC News 7, in her title.
It is well understood to all of us, who are clearly opining atm, that the REAL story will eek out slowly, because it has to make it past the coverup of police and media.
5 years ago
A Billion moslems, multiple times a day go to mosques to be harangued by the imams with thoughts and commands to commit mayhem, murder, rape, terror burnings , poisoning and destruction of all civilization. This has to act as a huge negative prayer that is received by weak, criminal or insane minds and cause the horror stories we read of each day now. PROSCRIBE islam!!!
5 years ago
Reply to
jerrys
The best way to do that, since the most well armed government in the world and our media are welcoming and defending islam, is counteract it’s indoctrination with the truth of Jesus Christ. Good will then win out over evil.
5 years ago
Reply to
iprazhm
INDOCTRINATION???? Look at this.
This is outrageous, those who promoted it should be imprisoned! This is a NY high school test from the university regents:
http://www.nysedregents.org/globalhistorygeography/Archive/20100817-gh-examw.pdf
This is from page 13 of the test ” . . Wherever they went, the Moslems brought with them their love of art, beauty, and learning.
From about the eighth to the eleventh century, their culture was superior in many ways to that
of western Christendom.
Some of the finest centers of Moslem life were established in Spain. In Cordova, the streets
were solidly paved, while at the same time in Paris people waded ankle-deep in mud after a rain.
Cordovan public lamps lighted roads for as far as ten miles; yet seven hundred years later there
was still not a single public lamp in London!
Some Spanish Moslems had homes with marble balconies and courts with lovely waterfalls.
Bedrooms were vaulted with stained glass and speckled with gold. And metal pipes carried water
into marble baths.
Nearly every mosque had a public school in which the children of the poor were taught. Many
Moslem libraries were excellent; the catalogue of one caliph’s library filled forty volumes. In
addition, the followers of Mohammed achieved much in science, particularly in chemistry,
astronomy, mathematics, and medicine. . . .
Source: Daniel Roselle, A World History: A Cultural Approach, Ginn and Company (adapted)”
5 years ago
Reply to
jerrys
God Gosh! What a load of bull hockey! This wouldn’t be happening if people weren’t afraid wicked government would do to them what one of the corrupt judges in Florida did to a young man after vandalizing an empty mosque, and leaving bacon on the door. Even though it was legally a misdemeanor, the judge upped it to the unconstitutional charge of ‘hate crime’ and gave him 15 years in prison with a following 15 years probation. That’s more than most federal crimes, and even some murder and rape sentences! Still, we must be vigilant and fight the spread of islam with all we can. Because the day is coming when the terrorist attack will be in the restaurant, stadium, club, sporting event, concert ect, where you are. With muslims now running and winning elections across the country, the day is coming when we will be little more than slaves living in the world’s most powerful muslim country.
5 years ago
Ooops. Now he is white with tattoos. No mention of a beard……maybe he was on his way to Grandma’s house?
5 years ago
A jihadist attack or a jihadist inspired attack: is there a difference? The violence inherent in Islam is poisoning the world.
5 years ago
As usual, initial eyewitness accounts tell a vastly different story than the narrative media.
And, as usual, none dare call it conspiracy.
5 years ago
Why do you suppose NO ONE is reporting the fact that the shooter was a Muslim convert?! It was all over his Facebook page and I saw photos of him in his Muslim gear!! But instead, they’re saying it was a former solder with PTSD! That’s a LIE, it was a JIHAD!!
5 years ago
Reply to
Dorrie Gillingham
Huh? Are you afraid to go outside at night? Long was a Marine. Mental health people visited his house in April. He lived with his mother. The health people could have had him tossed in a booby hatch for 72 hours, but didn’t. I hope you have read a few more articles and sources since your last post. This bar was a frequent place he visited and knew people there. Says he was bullied as a high school kid and went back to get even.
Seems many posters on Pam’s site always jump to conclusions every time there is a shooting and say it’s Islam. Get a grip on yourself lady!!
