[ April 17, 2024 ]
Natanyahu’s evidence “fails to convince” the IAEA, the UN, the European political elites. Of course, they all wanted the deal in the first place. They were anxious to greenlight Iran’s nuclear program and open up its markets.
I submit that even after Iran targets or even nukes one or more Euro-capitals, they will still fail to be convinced.
It’s not about truth. It’s not about reality. It’s about whose side they are on, and they have been on the wrong side from the start.
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“Netanyahu’s Iran nuke claims fail to convince deal proponents,” by Mike Smith, AFP, May 1, 2018:
Jerusalem (AFP) – Israel began sharing an intelligence trove on Iran’s alleged nuclear ambitions Tuesday, but Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu faced accusations his televised unveiling of it lacked evidence a 2015 accord had been violated.
The IAEA, the United Nations atomic watchdog, said it would evaluate any new relevant information, but cited its assessment from three years ago that it had no “credible indications” of an Iranian nuclear weapons pursuit after 2009.
Netanyahu’s elaborate presentation live on television Monday night came ahead of a crucial decision by US President Donald Trump by May 12 on whether to withdraw from the nuclear agreement between world powers and Iran.
The Israeli premier said tens of thousands of documents recently recovered by intelligence operatives in Tehran proved his country’s main enemy Iran had a secret nuclear weapons programme it could put into action at any time.
But the presentation that included props, video and slides immediately led to accusations from some that the White House and Netanyahu coordinated it as Trump considers whether to pull out of the nuclear deal he has harshly criticised.
Some analysts and proponents of the nuclear agreement also said Netanyahu had presented previously known details and failed to produce evidence that showed Iran was not abiding by the accord.
“I have not seen from Prime Minister Netanyahu arguments for the moment on non-compliance, meaning violation by Iran of its nuclear commitments under the deal,” European Union diplomatic chief Federica Mogherini said.
“And again, the deal was put in place exactly because there was no trust between the parties, otherwise we would not have required a nuclear deal to be put in place.”
France’s foreign ministry said Tuesday Netanyahu’s claims reinforced the importance of the nuclear deal….
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42 Comments
5 years ago
What would it take to convince the IAEA, UN, or the European leaders that iran lied?
A mushroom cloud over ISRAEL or maybe WASHINGTON DC?
The leaders of iran lie, cheat and deceive every chance they get….and the rest of the world lets them.
5 years ago
Reply to
0349 JAT
Or maybe a personal presentation where documentation can be viewed personally and its veracity questioned and picked apart to see if it’s true and novel information. Brussels seems like a good place to host such a presentation.
5 years ago
You can argue all you want about proof or lack of proof, when the leaders of a country say they will destroy you and your country, I say believe them ! And that’s exactly what Islam demands of its followers, to take over your country to create an Islamic State. Guess what having nuclear capability would do wonders for them. I say destroy them now and discuss it later !
5 years ago
europeans will never forgive the Jews for surviving the holocaust. And we will never forgive them for supporting it.
D
5 years ago
Reply to
mackykam
The IRAN DEAL doesn’t include “missile technology”. it’s a major flaw in the deal. they can develop ICBMS all they want (then do the nuclear part later).
IRAN is the other “Rocket Man”!
5 years ago
Reply to
R. Arandas
Could have, but Roosevelt despised Jews. Felt threatened by successful, intelligent Jews, yet desperately needed our brains for the atom bomb. He figured that after culling the Jewish herd by some 6 million we wouldn’t be heard from again. How’d that work out?
5 years ago
From The Times of Israel:
Mossad’s stunning op in Iran overshadows the actual intelligence it stole
https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossads-stunning-op-in-iran-casts-giant-shadow-over-the-intelligence-it-stole/
5 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
If there was a genuine t.v. show depicting the daily life of a muslim, it would be the worst thing that could happen, as the world would see that islam is all lies.
5 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
Can you just imagine the Big Day, when Aisha’s brood sow holds her down, so that her clitoris can be chopped out? Quite the celebration …
5 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
The more lies muslims tell, the more liberals repeat them, the stupider both look.
5 years ago
1. The “Accord” was approved under false pretenses.
2. The “Accord” does everything Iran wants, so “violating it” is NOT the issue.
5 years ago
“None are so blind as those who refuse to see.” When ideology obscures the truth only the worst can happen. The fall of Western civilization is certain. So are world events which will hasten the return of Christ. Bible prophecy is unfolding before our very eyes and most cannot even see it.
5 years ago
You’ll never convince these sons of demons. But you have to tell them the truth anyway.
5 years ago
NO Muslim country should ever be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons — for obvious reasons. Frankly, though, it is not surprising that liberals would choose to side with Muslims over Jews!
5 years ago
Reply to
R. Arandas
Israeli police teach schoolchildren how to shoot Palestinians https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-police-teach-schoolchildren-how-shoot-palestinians
5 years ago
Reply to
Kat Mandu
The Pioneers of Tomorrow) is a children’s program, broadcast on 2007–09 on the Palestinian Hamas-affiliated television station, Al-Aqsa TV (Arabic: مرئية الأقصى قناة الأقصى). The show features young host Saraa Barhoum and her co-host, a large costumed animal as they perform skits (or “scenes”) and discuss life in Palestine in a talk show fashion with call-ins from children (typically of age 9–13 with some as young as 3).[2][3] Presented in a children’s educational format similar to such shows as Sesame Street or Barney & Friends, Tomorrow’s Pioneers is highly controversial as it contains antisemitism, Islamism, anti-Americanism, and other anti-Western themes. — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow%27s_Pioneers
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5 years ago
Reply to
R. Arandas
ISRAEL should just destroy all of IRAN’s nuclear facilities. They would be doing us a favor.
(Israel bought bunker buster missiles from the US too).
5 years ago
Reply to
TD
My impression is that the US has refused Israeli attempts to buy “bunker busting missiles” (I assume you mean MOABs). Can you document your claim?
5 years ago
Reply to
R. Arandas
Agree. Left/Liberal loons in EU cannot even save themselves from jihadis and how do you expect them to care about Israel safety and security.
Left/Liberal are also making ISIS / jihadis happy by making beheading fashionable https://tinyurl.com/y7k93bs9
Insane ?
5 years ago
Reply to
R. Arandas
UN Nuclear Agency: “No Credible” Evidence of Iranian Nuclear Weapons Program. http://theantimedia.com/iaea-iranian-nuclear-weapons-program/
5 years ago
they loved hitler. they still do. they pretended to cheer the Americans who gave their lives to defend them but really they were in concert with hitler and collaborated eagerly. they liked his ideas about the Jews. they liked killing Jews and they liked it that he made it so easy or they would have done it themselves. their pretensions to being highly civilized were only that. the eurotrash are phonies and cowards. never willing to take a risk. the hell with them.
5 years ago
Europeans and others should know a little about history: When Mohammed and his followers started their conquests firstly in the Arabian peninsula, they attacked the Jewish population within their borders. Then they went to attack the countries that shared their borders and then beyond that and so on. Thinking that Iranian missiles are only an Israeli problem is incorrect. Iran “says” that their missiles can reach Europe. as well. Not a stretch if they, indeed, can reach Israel and the other side of the Mediterranean is only minutes away. History teaches us that it often starts with the Jews, but doesn’t end there.
5 years ago
“Unconvinced” translation: We KNOW it’s true but are afraid of Muslim repercussions if we admit it.
5 years ago
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu faced accusations his televised unveiling of it lacked evidence a 2015 accord had been violated.
This article is sophomoric. Netanyahu didn’t claim that Iran violated the 2015 accord. Here is an excellent summary of the matter:
Horovitz notes:
Israel’s contention is not that Iran is breaching the deal. It is, rather, that this agreement, far from preventing Iran from attaining a nuclear weapons arsenal, paves Iran’s path to it. …
But the fact is that the 2015 deal was a terrible, misconstructed accord. It let the duplicitous Iranians off the hook. It did not dismantle the weapons program they still lie about. It did not close their path to a nuclear weapons arsenal.
5 years ago
” IAEA, UN, European leaders unconvinced by Netanyahu’s Iran nuke claims ”
The judgement of the leaders and followers of those three all of whom are virulently anti Israel and anti Semitic should be accepted without question.
They have proven over 70 years that they are 100% consistent. So accept their words as being without the slightest hesitancy that what they declare is unfailingly the opposite of proven facts and is Allah’s truth,
Just look at the grand changes their opinions have made to European countries and the security of the rest of the world.
5 years ago
As Trump and Netanyahu Joins Forces to Torpedo Iran Deal, Here’s a ‘Typically Ignored’ Fact: Israel Has Nuclear Weapons https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/05/01/trump-and-netanyahu-joins-forces-torpedo-iran-deal-heres-typically-ignored-fact?utm_term=As%20Trump%20and%20Netanyahu%20Joins%20Forces%20to%20Torpedo%20Iran%20Deal%2C%20Here%27s%20a%20%27Typically%20Ignored%27%20Fact%3A%20Israel%20Has%20Nuclear%20Weapons&utm_campaign=News%20%2526%20Views%20%7C%20Amid%20Effort%20to%20Torpedo%20Iran%20Deal%2C%20Here%27s%20a%20Fact%3A%20Israel%20Has%20Nukes&utm_content=email&utm_source=Act-On+Software&utm_medium=email&cm_mmc=Act-On%20Software-_-email-_-News%20%2526%20Views%20%7C%20Amid%20Effort%20to%20Torpedo%20Iran%20Deal%2C%20Here%27s%20a%20Fact%3A%20Israel%20Has%20Nukes-_-As%20Trump%20and%20Netanyahu%20Joins%20Forces%20to%20Torpedo%20Iran%20Deal%2C%20Here%27s%20a%20%27Typically%20Ignored%27%20Fact%3A%20Israel%20Has%20Nuclear%20Weapons
5 years ago
Reply to
Kat Mandu
Say Kat, did you have a point you wanted to make?
FWIW, Iran is an aggressive dictatorship (with democratic trappings) that signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. Israel is a democracy that is not a signatory to that treaty.
You seem to have difficulty distinguishing between pertinent factors and irrelevancies. Minor differences in your limited mind?
Sheesh, to think that a certain idiot here (Achmed) thinks you and I are the same individual!
5 years ago
Reply to
Kat Mandu
Why don’t you post these things own your on website? I do not understand your conduct.
5 years ago
Reply to
livingengine
Um, jews don’t believe in Christ Jesus? They crucified him, remember? How is that important detail lost on you?
5 years ago
Reply to
Kat Mandu
Good. “Israel has nuclear weapons.” What is your point? Israel has the right to defend itself.
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5 years ago
Reply to
Kat Mandu
“Israel Has Nuclear Weapons”
Another “intellectual” who doesn’t make a distinction between terrorists and a democracy.
Brittain has nuclear weapons too! OOOhhhhhh! “Danger Will Robinson! Danger!”
LIBERAL = LACK OF COMMON SENSE!
5 years ago
Reply to
Kat Mandu
If Islamic nations (~1.6 billion Antisemitic, relatively backward / violent people that rabidly tried many many times and still trying to exterminate Israel) laid their weapons down in their conflict with Israel / Jews, there will be Peace and prosperity for all involved but if Israel lays it’s (last resort / strategic option) weapons down, there will be a second holocaust that will make the first one look like a understated, relatively tidy affair…
The mere fact that you mention this, shows that you are at the very best a stupid idiot of the highest order or at worse, an Antisemite
5 years ago
follow the money trail – what the bastards don’t contemplate is they can’t spend the money if Western Europe ends up in a smoldering sh!thole instead of the normal sh!thole it is headed for
5 years ago
I suppose if you think (like many EU governments) that the Iranians are not as smart as the North Koreans, thus have not taken the necessary steps to build nuclear bombs and warheads, then yes you have nothing to worry about. But if on the other hand working with the North Koreans has made it very easy to complete these weapons, well better hold on !
5 years ago
What would be expected from nations that pay for their own destruction in the name of multiculturalism? This is the same bunch that brought on two world wars through stupidity.
