Pamela Geller, Breitbart News: New York Times Asks, ‘Can Islamic and European Civilizations Coexist?’ or ‘The West is Wrong to Resist’

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New York Times “journalism” — emotional, fact-free propaganda.

Geller: New York Times Asks, ‘Can Islamic and European Civilizations Coexist?’ or ‘The West is Wrong to Resist’

By Pamela Geller, Breitbart News, April 1, 2018:

The New York Times published a piece Thursday, “Can Islamic and European Civilizations Coexist?” and it is incredible (as in beyond belief, hard to believe, far-fetched, implausible).

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The headline leads you to believe that, finally, maybe there might be a discussion of this existential question with a (sadly) obvious answer, but that would be delusional. In reality, the Times is not asking the question. It mocks you into thinking the question is a legitimate one. The real title should be: “Muslim Grievances, Why We Are Right to Whine After Jihadis Attack.”

The piece is not written by a legitimate, reasoned, and brilliant scholar of Islam like, say, Ibn Waraq, Bat Ye’or, or Robert Spencer. No, this absurd propaganda is by one of the Times’ resident shills for Islam, Atossa Araxia Abrahmian, coming in form of a review of Journey Into Europe: Islam, Immigration, and Identity, the latest installment in Islamic studies professor Akbar Ahmed’s series on Muslims around the world.

The finger-pointing at the infidel for the violence and holy wars of devout Muslims is at its apex in this indictment of Western compassion and open borders. And Muslims, of course, are the real victims:

The bulk of Ahmed’s research comes from a listening tour he embarked on with a team of researchers between 2013 and 2017. They interviewed imams, community leaders, activists and ordinary people across the continent about the challenges European Muslims face today. Their findings are predictably grim. Across the board, interviewees reported feeling marginalized, stereotyped and prevented from professional advancement because of their background. Despite their multitude of experiences, they ended up lumped into the crude categories that conflate terrorists, Muslims and refugees; Arabs, Persians and Africans; recent immigrants with no facility in the local language and second-generation doctoral students fluent at the highest level.

“Many patterns of discrimination,” Ahmed notes, “are rooted in colonial legacies that vary by country[.]”

Ah, yes colonial legacies – nothing about Islamic imperialism and annihilationism. Nothing about the centuries of jihadi wars, land appropriations, cultural annihilations, and enslavements. Robert Spencer’s much anticipated tome on Islamic history, The History of Jihad: From Muhammad to ISIS, details this very thing and should be part of every school curriculum in the country.

This whole piece is an extraordinary lie, and the Left’s relentless promotion of the big lies have rendered us ill-prepared for what’s coming.

In this “book review,” Abrahamian tells us that the author was invited to speak at a mosque in Athens.

What he saw there took him aback. The facility was less a house of God than an underground parking lot “of a particularly sinister aspect[.]”

“These men had nothing to lose, and I could imagine the most desperate among them prepared to lash out in an unpredictable and even murderous manner,” Ahmed writes in Journey Into Europe. “This, I felt, was Europe’s ticking time bomb.”

Oh yes, because the mosque in Athens, Greece — a country whose suffering at the hands of Muslim invaders is incalculable and little spoken of (like the Armenians) — is not pretty, it only makes sense that the Muslims destroy Europe. Are we to believe that if the Greeks built shrines to their executioners, all would be well?

So the jihad in Europe is the Greeks’ fault, but Christians in Muslim countries who can’t pray and whose houses of worship are systematically destroyed have no recourse, no voice, no New York Times article that speaks the truth of their oppression and destruction. On the contrary, in the view of the New York Times, the Christians are the problem.

The complaining and the whining continues. Ahmed, in this book, says:

Pakistanis in Britain are better integrated than, say, French citizens of Algerian and Moroccan descent. But even absent empire, many of the Muslims he speaks to find it hard, if not impossible, to fit in. “In Denmark they strangle you slowly, slowly,” one interviewee proclaims.

Pakistanis in the UK are better integrated? Thousands of English girls are groomed by Muslim rape gangs which the police never pursued for fear of being perceived as “islamophobic.” Daily acts of jihad written off as some generic form of extremism. This passes for integration?

Ahmed “hopes Europeans can form new, hybrid identities that broaden the criteria for who belongs.” Where have Muslim societies ever allowed a hybrid of identity? What he is saying is, he hopes that Europeans will go quietly into the cold Islamic night.

Using Islamic historic lies, Abrahmian bolsters his argument:

Europe happens to have a homegrown example of this philosophy in medieval Andalusia, when people of multiple faiths in parts of modern-day Portugal and Spain enjoyed convivencia, a state of relative pluralism, peace and prosperity under Muslim rule. “The answer to the violence and tensions between religions in Europe today and the sense of alienation and confusion in Muslim youth is to revive and strengthen the Andalusian model as an alternative to that of a monolithic tribal society,” Ahmed writes.

Andalusia was hardly golden for the Christians and Jews living under Islamic rule:

Islamic Spain was far from being a paradise. Cordoba was no “ornament of the world.” Maimonides had to flee the city because of the persecution of the Almohads, but even before the Alhomads the treatment of non-Muslims was dismal. When the Jewish viziers Samuel ibn Naghrela and his son Joseph were both murdered, and then the entire Jewish community of Grenada was massacred as well – yes, in Grenada, home of the “Alhambra” of which Washington Irving sung — it was not something without deep Islamic roots. (more here)

Abrahmian closes with this pearl:

The fundamental message of “Journey Into Europe” is that throughout history, Islamic and European civilizations have often been not just compatible, but complementary. It’s crucial to acknowledge their shared past to reject today’s resurgent tribalism. The stakes, as Ahmed puts it, are “Andalusia or dystopia.”

Intellectually, his conclusion is hard to argue with. But since 9/11, popular perceptions of Islam in the West have been informed by emotion, not facts or reason.

That’s true. And this New York Times article is more of that emotional, fact-free propaganda.

Pamela Geller is the President of the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI), publisher of The Geller Report and author of the bestselling book, FATWA: Hunted in America, as well as The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War on America, and Stop the Islamization of America: A Practical Guide to the Resistance. Follow her on Twitter or Facebook.

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Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

No, look you cackling skid flake idiots, read the qur’an and look at history. islam demands to dominate all societies, suppressing and eliminating all other cults, religions, beliefs or lack thereof. The only good muslim is no muslim.

Daniel FX Dravot
Daniel FX Dravot
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

A dead terrorist is a peaceful terrorist.
“Blessed are the Peacemakers.”

Semper Fi

BasBarra
BasBarra
6 years ago

COLT used to make a hand-gun of that name – the PEACEMAKER!

SmithWinston6478
SmithWinston6478
6 years ago
Reply to  BasBarra

“Be not afraid of any man,
regardless of his size.
Call on me in time of need,
and I shall equalize.
~ Samuel Colt

Thorsten
Thorsten
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Monster 5/33-40 wants to dominate the world https://quran.com/8/39 https://quran.com/9/29-33 ..

SmithWinston6478
SmithWinston6478
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Mahou, Indeed they HAVEN’T read the koran. I read it when I lived there. Clearly, it’s the berzerk rant of a brutally violent, merciless, 7th century pedophile and warrior with a lunatic perspective on his own importance.

Dan Knight
Dan Knight
6 years ago

Sympathy with Islam? Coexist with Islam? Accept Islam …

Please…

If you’re going to accept Islam, the West must apologize to Slave Traders, Cannibals, Human Sacrifices, Communism, and Nastism …

If you’re a confused drone — the way out of this quandary is to admit Leftism is nothing but a Bipolar Political Disorder with nothing but Big Lies for support.

The West is the worst of all civilizations – except for all of the others. It is the West that must be saved,

and the only quibble is that we must defeat the West’s evil step-children which can all be called Leftism and traced back to the French Revolution and its precursors.

Defeat the Left – and Islam will fold like a house of cards in an EF5 tornado.

Jimbo
Jimbo
6 years ago

Can Islamic and European Civilizations Coexist?

Very very easy question to answer: NO
Europe belongs to Europeans in exactly the same way Pakistan belongs to Pakistanis, or Japan belongs to the Japanese. This rediculous business about Europe belonging to everyone who can invade her borders is coming to a close. The people have had it! Pakis are NOT English, Syrians are NOT French, Afghans are NOT Irish, Turks are NOT Germans, and Africans are NOT Italians! Not only are you racially and ethnically alien to the West and its people, but your culture and religious beliefs are in many ways an abomination to Europeans. We have our nations and you have yours. We are re-assuming our rights to live free from the unwanted embrace of Muslims infesting our lands.

Studs Lonnigan
Studs Lonnigan
6 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Agree wholeheartedly! The West is not only right to resist, but if it does not begin resisting even more, Islam will do to it what it does to every country it dominates — make the natives insubordinate serfs. There is no coexistence with Islam. Ever.

Kalambong Kalambong
Kalambong Kalambong
6 years ago
Reply to  Studs Lonnigan

There is only one thing that can co-exist with Islam — SATAN

VoiceInDesert
VoiceInDesert
6 years ago

You nailed it!

SmithWinston6478
SmithWinston6478
6 years ago

The most sinister thing satan did was change his name to allah.

felix1999
felix1999
5 years ago

Satan is the great imitator and Father of Lies. Satan LOVES “religion”. He knows we are spiritually wired for it. We LOVE rituals and traditions. We LOVE believing we can WORK OUR WAY to heaven. He knows many LOVE to appear pious and upstanding. He also knows that in EACH OF US is a wickedness that ISLAM unleashed with the veneer that looks the opposite.

For people of faith, we have the Holy Spirit inside of us that RESTRAINS us.

Jer.17:9

[9] The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Yes, we are NOT “good people” with a “good heart”. We restrain ourselves from evil all the time. Even as an infant we are selfish, self centered and have to be TAUGHT to be kind, caring and civilized.

robert v g
robert v g
6 years ago

Good one.

Graham Bryant
Graham Bryant
5 years ago

Satan who did his thing back in the garden of eden and is still in his rocking chair.And by the way he has islam by the neck and is laughing at them because he sees their day of punishment is coming.

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago
Reply to  Studs Lonnigan

while the dumb Left/liberal infidels sleep walk their way living in lala land the jihadis are preparing for even better Ramadan bombathon than last year https://tinyurl.com/yc28gxzv

Where even clueless Trump wished them happy successful Ramadan !

SmithWinston6478
SmithWinston6478
6 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

Are you sure he wasn’t speaking figuratively?

felix1999
felix1999
5 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

Trump is not clueness. He gets it.
Stop trying to bring about division.
Why do you think he has this “Muslim ban”?

Suresh
Suresh
5 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

He was clueless on palestinian issue as he used to talk about how great it would be to solve the Palestinian issue !
you may have forgotten. And if you read the article you can see how he was fooled by Abbas ……..until Israelis provided him with Proof of how Abbas is a double speaking fraud.
Muslim ban is not directly related to this issue and also half baked policy ……as long as you do not find a way to get rid of muslim influence in US politics /media … and start deporting muslim criminals …….the war is not even being fought.

created4elD
created4el
6 years ago
Reply to  Studs Lonnigan

The “resistance” we see today is nothing more than whining. They can’t even complain about Islam openly otherwise they will be prosecuted. We see sharia compliance from Canada to Australia to all of Europe.

You rightfully say they need to resist more. But the percent of ignorant apathetic subjects is too large. What they need is to overthrow their government. But it is obvious that because this can’t be done through the ballot, it won’t be possible by force either. In those countries, the majority obviously don’t see the threat and continue vote for and support their destruction. And without popular support, a military coup would not be possible. Not to mention, most of the citizens of those countries don’t believe in the right to bear arms and are thus unarmed. You can’t have a coup without weapons. They need a much bigger resistance but short of a miracle that won’t happen until it is too late. They won’t even realize they need to do more than whine until it is too late. They won’t even know what to do because they don’t know who their enemy is.

SmithWinston6478
SmithWinston6478
6 years ago
Reply to  Studs Lonnigan

RC, Indeed. The retrogressive muslams have been (in)breeding to the point they can once again disrupt the relative peace of tolerant, compassionate mankind. Hyenas cannot assimilate with house pets.

Dave
Dave
5 years ago
Reply to  Studs Lonnigan

Totally agree, especially their growing reign in the food (halal) industry particularly in the US.
Interesting to see for the first time: someone who se comment on this site was removed!

lyda
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Simon
Simon
6 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Nationalism is the only way I can see to reverse the damage.

Olivia
Olivia
6 years ago
Reply to  Simon

We need large authentic Christian families.

Mickey Oberman
Mickey Oberman
6 years ago
Reply to  Olivia

You need smaller families with larger functioning brains.

Drifter12
Drifter12
6 years ago
Reply to  Mickey Oberman

Islamic families have 6.1 population Replacement Ratio. Europe and America are both below the break even rate of 2.1 with America hovering on the edge and Europe, past the point of recovery. A larger, more educated functioning brain woud be a good thing if one possessed it…

Olivia
Olivia
6 years ago
Reply to  Drifter12

Indeed… a lot of people against Islam want simplistic solutions, although I am concerned too about such an ideology, I realise also that Islam is doing so relatively well, because Christianity is being lived out so weakly. Without large Christian families we will never be able to build stable healthy functioning societies, as the left who hate the way that Christianity once unified Europe will always force us to be reliant on mass immigration. Error always grows in a vacuum, abortion and contraception are a travesty to Western Civilisation: https://youtu.be/hBblogVq638

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Olivia

“authentic”, LOL. I doubt Yeshua’s Christianity included Easter celebrations or Christmas celebrations it did include Nikanor Day — a celebration of the Maccabees defeat and beheading of the Seleucid general Nikanor.

Dagonet
Dagonet
6 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Nationalism…

What did Trump say about patriotism and working together right after he was elected? What he DIDN’T say was we need to get to the funding behind the left wing movement and stop it.

SmithWinston6478
SmithWinston6478
6 years ago
Reply to  Dagonet

…much of which originates in the middle-east, and Soros.

Ebayer
Ebayer
6 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

The author must have lost his mind somewhere. Islam and Arabs have SO much in common with Christians and Europeans. LOL

Drifter12
Drifter12
6 years ago
Reply to  Ebayer

Sarcasm lights on…

Guessed Worker
Guessed Worker
6 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Well gaurded borders make for good neighbors. Islam has no intention of a peaceful coexistence within European borders. Islam must either dominate or be expelled.

Thorsten
Thorsten
6 years ago
Reply to  Guessed Worker

‘… a clear conquest’ (not defense) https://quran.com/48/1-28 8/39, 9/33, 61/9

Mickey Oberman
Mickey Oberman
6 years ago
Reply to  Guessed Worker

Expelling is not the solution.
EXTINCTION is the answer.

Bill Kay
Bill Kay
6 years ago
Reply to  Mickey Oberman

The only answer !

Drifter12
Drifter12
6 years ago
Reply to  Mickey Oberman

Expelling is one solution,that will help until you can get something else in its place or is this just your way of saying that you are giving up?

Mickey Oberman
Mickey Oberman
6 years ago
Reply to  Drifter12

Your remark is both insulting and stupid.

There is no way that a cult like Islam can ever coexist with even their own people let alone non Muslims.
If you do not know that by now you are, indeed, a pathetic case.

“….something else in its place…”
Please enlighten the world with your wisdom and inform us what “something else” is.
A Teddy bear? Punch and Judy Dolls?
A gerbil? A toot toot Twain set?” A yoyo?

created4elD
created4el
6 years ago
Reply to  Guessed Worker

Guessed Worker – Islam must either be expelled or it will dominate.

The subversive Islamic doctrine commands dominance. It must be expelled. It is not a religion like other religions. Neither Hinduism, Buddhism, nor Christianity commands the subjugation of others. This makes Islam unique.

If the people are too ignorant to understand or too blind to believe that Islam strives to be dominant, then they will be dominated. But once they are dominated, it will be too late to do anything about it as sharia forbids they even complain about it… and we are already nearly fully compliant with Islam’s “anti-blasphemy” laws. Even in the US, both Left and “Right” criticize people speaking out against Islam.

As others have pointed out, because we have rejected the Truth, the lies seem believable. We already eagerly reject good and call it evil and accept evil and call it good.

Olivia
Olivia
6 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

We Europeans have turned away from our Christian culture and heritage, and above all a relationship with Jesus Christ which bound our communities together traditionally in a common focus.

Furthermore we have aborted and contracepted ourselves out of existence. Our small families provides a vacuum for Islam to decimate our Judeo-Christian heritage. Large Christian families are the only way forward.

Thorsten
Thorsten
6 years ago
Reply to  Olivia

… and close & secure the border with a ‘BEAUTIFUL BIG WALL’ as Tump have said 🙂

BasBarra
BasBarra
6 years ago
Reply to  Thorsten

First of all, NOW, with MILITARY RE-INFORCEMENTS! 1,500 families NEARING RIGHT NOW! POTUS – WAKE UP!

felix1999
felix1999
5 years ago
Reply to  BasBarra

Unfortunately Trump is not a dictator. The swamp WANTS what is going on.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Thorsten

But the enemy is within the gates already…

felix1999
felix1999
5 years ago

Sessions is worthless. He should be busier than a one armed paper hanger.

BasBarra
BasBarra
6 years ago
Reply to  Olivia

My five are letting the side down, only five Grandchildren between them! Sad to think of my Great-Grand-daughter in a BURKHA!
(NO ‘LOL’ AT ALL!)

felix1999
felix1999
5 years ago
Reply to  BasBarra

I know my girls won’t be in one. They are Christians. Where they spend eternity matters to them. As for unborn grandchildren… I don’t know. I’ll maybe dead by then.

John from NY
John from NY
6 years ago
Reply to  Olivia

I totally agree with you. Islam filled that vacuum.

felix1999
felix1999
5 years ago
Reply to  John from NY

Till they get to know what Islam is.

Drifter12
Drifter12
6 years ago
Reply to  Olivia

You speak the truth as one who is already subjugated…

L. A. McDonough
L. A. McDonough
5 years ago
Reply to  Drifter12

Europe is over and done, conquered indeed.

L. A. McDonough
L. A. McDonough
5 years ago
Reply to  Drifter12

Europe is over and done, conquered indeed.

felix1999
felix1999
5 years ago
Reply to  Olivia

The U.S. is teetering….
We have also turned away from God.
We are hoping for a second chance.

L. A. McDonough
L. A. McDonough
5 years ago
Reply to  Olivia

European males need to man up, quit being cowards and sissies, and take their country back and run off these invaders

Raymond of Canada
Raymond of Canada
6 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Or: why are the colonized so intent on living in the land of the evil colonizers?

Alex
Alex
5 years ago

Why do you elect the Muslim Trudeau as yourPM? Because like him you already surrendered to Islam and all Canada with him and you. Look how great is love of impostor Kenyan Arab President Hussein in USA by American people. It means that they have been subjugated and love their persecutor and future master.

BasBarra
BasBarra
6 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

They are ‘ALIEN’ in every sense of the word! They aren’t ‘different in outlook’ THEIR VERY BELIEFS ARE ANTITHETICAL TO WESTERN / CHRISTIAN BELIEFS, AND THEY THINK SUCH BELIEFS AND WAYS,’INFERIOR AND UNCLEAN’ – AND TO BE ELIMINATED! (Along with those who profess such beliefs – KILLED OFF!)

SmithWinston6478
SmithWinston6478
6 years ago
Reply to  BasBarra

Sir, One problem is that not all people know what you (and I) know. Those raised in islam are taught that questioning is to be punished by death, and that they must convert the world by the sword if necessary.

created4elD
created4el
6 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Jimbo- It seems to me they already do coexist. The UK, for instance, has already been subjugated. They welcomed and continue to protect those who enslaved their girls. And this is the case across Europe. It’s only a matter of time for the transformation to be complete. Pretty much, all across Europe, they rejected God and welcomed the devil. They continue in their willful blindness to the fact that their invaders are indeed invading and their growing compliance with sharia only proves it’s a matter of time before the invaders establish their reign.

The issue is the definition of coexist… Islam is all about a master-slave relationship… God-Muslim is master slave… Muslim-kafir is master-slave (note: kafir is non-Muslim). What we are seeing is Europe’s transformation into that of slave under Islam. And despite the objection of many, their anti-speech laws and their unarmed populace guarantees they can’t fight the forces that are marching to the destruction of their nations as they have known them. Add to that, their ignorance of history, ie what originally motivated the crusades as well as Islamic doctrine, means we are seeing history repeat itself.

Coexist? This is the new norm. This is how they will coexist until the transformation is complete.

Drifter12
Drifter12
6 years ago
Reply to  created4el

There is absolutely no co-existence…They are presently, blindly, it seems, going under the caiphate.

End PCD
End PC
6 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Certainly Islamic and European Civilizations cannot coexist. For one thing Islam forbids it. Both Quran verses 2:193 & 8:39 order Muslims to fight unbelievers
until Islam is the only religion anywhere. Furthermore Islam commands:

Quran 9:29 ” Fight those who believe not in Allah, and as for Jews or Christians fight them until they pay the Jizya tax with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”

Quran 60:4 “There has arisen between us and you enmity and hatred forever unless you believe in Allah and Him alone.”

And even when Muslims are in non-Muslim lands they are forbidden to assimilate or even have
non-Muslims as true friends. This they remind themselves of in their required daily prayers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnIsL1nWwr0

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  End PC

I’ve never seen this particular video by Bill Warner, thanks.

SmithWinston6478
SmithWinston6478
6 years ago
Reply to  End PC

First paragraph before the video NAILS it !

Drifter12
Drifter12
6 years ago
Reply to  End PC

All problems solved…They will not be coexisting, under the caliphate…

End PCD
End PC
6 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Islam itself forbids coexistence Both Quran verses 2:193 & 8:39 order Muslims to fight unbelievers until Islam is the only religion anywhere. Furthermore Islam commands:

Quran 9:29 ” Fight those who believe not in Allah, and as for Jews or Christians fight them until they pay the Jizya tax with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”

Quran 60:4 “There has arisen between us and you enmity and hatred forever unless
you believe in Allah and Him alone.”

Even when Muslims are in non-Muslim lands they are forbidden to assimilate or even have non-Muslims as true friends. This they remind themselves of in their required daily prayers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnIsL1nWwr0

Piotr Leitner
Piotr Leitner
6 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

… they know it all! you do not need to explain it to them! they explain to us how they are needed (using fatf, takija, jihad !!!)! … however, we must have politicians representing our views, interests, needs and aspirations in our countries!

SmithWinston6478
SmithWinston6478
6 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Agreed. The Crusaders brought us hundreds of years of peace by culling the muslams down to a relatively harmless infection. In the centuries since the middle ages, the primitive muslams have been (in)breeding to the point they can once again disrupt the relative peace on Earth of tolerant, compassionate mankind.

Drifter12
Drifter12
6 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

As a concerned American, I very much hope that you are right about it coming to a close. It seems that you are hovering on the precipice of the caliphate.

Drifter12
Drifter12
6 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

You are the enemy but you speak the truth…

Iftikhar Ahmad
Iftikhar Ahmad
6 years ago
Reply to  Drifter12

Truth is always bitter.

Jonathan Kay
Jonathan Kay
5 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Ahmen!

kiwi
kiwi
5 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Yes, it is difficult to respect, let alone accept a peoples who are so ignorant. The Scots/English/Irish/Welsh do not hate each other, they are just competitive in sports – just one of your ill thought out ideas. Now if you had said Sunni hate the Shia and every other non Sunni sect (about seventy odd, I believe) that would make a lot more sense. Just look at Syria and the Yemen. I am surprised that you believe that Islam would spread so far particularly as you must know that your ideology and its actions are despised throughout the world.

PS The Levant is the traditional homeland of the Christians and Jews – you conquered it in the 7th century and seem to think it is yours forever. Have you forgotten the Ottoman Empire entered WW1 on the side of Germany and Austria who lost the war. So the Jews are now residing in their true home.

As much as young muslims are brainwashed by their religion a time is coming when that belief will be shattered as their intelligence and awareness increases due to the more civilised environment they are living in, especially where women are free from your misogynistic medievil thinking and fear of bullying males. Your religion will just be left with dross such as the Pakistanis produce when they marry their cousins.

flo4sho
flo4sho
5 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Black birds with black birds, red birds with red birds, sparrows with sparrows…

rambler
rambler
6 years ago

As long as the goal of islam is to conquer, convert, subvert and kill…. there isn’t any way to coexist. Should islam ever win, then the whole world would spiral down to rubble.

honkycracker
honkycracker
6 years ago
Reply to  rambler

Syria is the final stage.

Tokenn
Tokenn
6 years ago

Islam was founded by a medieval warlord who used mass murder, banditry, rapine and assassination to bolster his rule. He was a practitioner of slavery and rape. He promulgated many ‘prophesies’ that were blatantly self-serving, and the records of his ravings recorded in the Quran are outstandingly hateful and aggressive. After his death, his followers immediately fell into vicious deadly conflict over who would assume his mantle of power. Islamic jihadis invaded Arabia’s neighbours persistently over the subsequent centuries, wiping out entire cultures and nations, and irrevocably damaging others.The conquest of Europe was avoided by the narrowest margin, thanks to a small number of heroic Christian leaders…much of Asia and India were subjugated for centuries, and in many places remain so. The modern Islamic world is comprised almost exclusively of nasty theocratic dictatorships with disgusting records of human rights abuse. This is ALL OF A PIECE.

Now…what was your question again?

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Tokenn

Which country supplied the muslum world with arms and armaments to attack Israel?
The atheist Communist state called the USSR.

Lynn D
Lynn D
6 years ago

Kick all of them out back to the shyteholes they came from… And while they are at the departure points go and give them an earful of anti mussie jokes. Here’s some
Q.Why is a mussie like an old record?
A. They both scratch a lot
Q. What is the best use of a mussie backside/bum?
A. Somewhere to park your bike
Q. How did the mussie stop biting his nails?
A. he put his shoes on
Q.How does a mussie count money?
A. 1…2….3….4….5….another…another…..another….
Q. What is the first prize in a mussie lottery?
A. $10 a year for a million years
Q. Why do mussies write T.G.I.F. on their shoes?
A. To remind them that toes go in first
Q. How do you save a mussie from drowning
A. Take your foot off his head
Q. How can you tell if a mussie is sexually excited?
A. He’s breathing
Q. Why do mussies drive BMW’s
A. Because they can spell it
Q. What do you call a mussie with an IQ of 40
A. Gifted
Q. Whydon’t mussies get haemarroids?
A. Because they are perfect arseholes.

Jane Dowe
Jane Dowe
6 years ago
Reply to  Lynn D

What do you call a muzzzzie that has sex with goats AND camels??
Bisexual!

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  Jane Dowe

If a man and a woman get married in Riyadh but get divorced in Baghdad, are they still brother and sister?

Fred8512
Fred8512
6 years ago
Reply to  Lynn D

Absolutely funny.

kiwi
kiwi
5 years ago
Reply to  Lynn D

You only take – never contribute. What will you do when you reduce the U.K. to a state like the unsuccessful countries you originally came from? Islam has produced only poverty stricken backward uncivilized countries because you are not intelligent enough to realise that without reform you are doomed to the same miserable lives that you left behind in order to leach off the democratic countries that give you everything your native nations cannot provide. Which is why you will self destruct – the penny is dropping amongst too many young muslims who would rather live an independant life unencumbered by ridiculous 7th century revelations from an Arab known for his mental delusions.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
5 years ago
Reply to  kiwi

Another of your mountains of dung that you try and pass off as an alternative to the status quo. Be the change you demand of others, learn tolerance, co-operation and non violence. The awesome stupidity of those educated as muslims is beyond belief.

Thorsten
Thorsten
6 years ago

understand not the “?”

Have New York Propaganda NOT ‘investigative’ journalists who can ONLY read?

coward mafia godfather https://quran.com/3/141 -> https://quran.com/8/17

http://schnellmann.org/muhammad-the-first-nazi-ss-man.html

Thorsten
Thorsten
6 years ago

piSSlam is urin in drinking water

piSSlam is terminal cancer 40/2 -> ‘… kill them wherever you find them’ (‘turn away’, ex-Muslims) https://quran.com/4/89

1PierreMontagne1D
1PierreMontagne1
6 years ago

The New York times – the bastion of “Fear of Islam Derangement syndrome”.
A Place where reporters demand the west submit to Islam least Islam execute Infidel News Reporters…and everyone else.

Jane Dowe
Jane Dowe
6 years ago

Resisting the sick, twisted cult called islam is not only the right thing to do, it is the moral and sensible thing to do!
F×@k islam!

John Forbes
John Forbes
6 years ago

HOW ON EARTH is it that GARBAGE LIKE – WRONG TO RESIST can be PRINTED????

honkycracker
honkycracker
6 years ago
Reply to  John Forbes

The “New York Times.” That’s how. So much for their credibility.

Tiberius
Tiberius
6 years ago

Take no prisoners!! The only way to be sure that the fangs of muslims are blown in place.

Tiberius
Tiberius
6 years ago

If it had not been for Charles “The Hammer” Martel at the battle of Tours and two successful defenses at the gates of Vienna, all of of Europe (and probably the whole world) would have been islamic today. Whether you know it or not (especially addressing the unsuspecting non-muslim), islam is the enemy of mankind. The sooner we know their objective, which is the islamification of the world and come to grips with it, then there is an excellent chance for mankind to finally defeat islam for good.The ideology may still be around then, but minus the fangs.

BasBarra
BasBarra
6 years ago
Reply to  Tiberius

The two battles at Vienna by the way, were fought by LARGELY HUNGARIAN FORCES – DE-JA-VOUS ANYONE?

Daniel FX Dravot
Daniel FX Dravot
6 years ago
Reply to  BasBarra

Are you certain you don’t mean Polish?

Tiberius
Tiberius
6 years ago
Reply to  Tiberius

There are ways and without using weapons. For example oppose mosques. They are the epicenters of evil, Don’t allow our children to be indoctrinated by jihadists and dhimmis. Never believe the media (most of them), which are a propaganda mouthpiece for islam and anti-Semitism Never ever employ jihadists. They will sue you or have you prosecuted for racism at the first opportunity. Keep a sharp eye when muslims are in positions of authority, such as the police. Never ever vote for dhimmi, quisling, and traitorous politicians.It’s very important to ridicule islam as mush as possible. Mockery is the most effective weapon against these scumbags. It punctures their bloated egos. .Humiliate their totems, especially their troubled and fallible quran. Totems are very important to all primitive tribal people, and their humiliation destroys their morale. Above all, celebrate our own culture and teach our children well, especially music, dance and visual arts, which the jihadists want to remove from school curricula so that they may eventually destroy our culture. It works and positive proof can be found in my community, since we are wise to the ways of muslims. .

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Tiberius

What percentage of Germans were nazis when Adolph Hitler seized power?

Tiberius
Tiberius
6 years ago

Probably there were some 4 or 5% that were after 1940 and most likely when he rose to power, probably the majority did not support the nazi party. What’s your point?

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Tiberius

That a minority can seize power from the majority.

Tiberius
Tiberius
6 years ago

I concur.

Iftikhar Ahmad
Iftikhar Ahmad
6 years ago
Reply to  Tiberius

Muslim community in all western countries need Masajid, state funded Muslim schools , Halal meat,sharia laws, time off for Friday afternoon prayers in the Masjid, tow religious holidays per year and Muslim cemeteries. West must learn to respect and tolerate those who are different. Don’t these hypocrites idiots know what their ancestors did to Native American Indians they slaughtered 150 millions of Native American Indians! and also do they know that Great Britain invaded 80% countries around the world? They should call them terrorist first and as well call their ancestors terrorist! British did the same to Native American Indians and sadly they still treat Native American Indians badly! So Americans Indians know how you Muslims feel! They stolen Indian land and killed 150 millions of Indians the British did! They were forced to go to the white man’s school and learn the language, culture and faith of the white man. Inspite of that, they are still the under dogs of the American society.

The native Brits must learn to respect and tolerate those who are different. You have failed to respect and tolerate Black community, who speaks your language, share your culture and faith. English, Irish, Welsh and Scott hate each other, sharing the same culture, faith and language. It is difficult for you to accept, respect and tolerate Muslims with different culture, languages and FAITH. You have no choice but to accept them for your own survival. The number of Muslims is on the increase because of immigration, high birth rate and conversion. By the end of this century, nearly 50% of British population would be Muslim.
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

Iftikhar Ahmad
Iftikhar Ahmad
6 years ago
Reply to  Iftikhar Ahmad

No body is asking or forcing you to accept any religious belief. But you are forcing others to accept what you believe. State funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers, Sharia Laws, Halal meat, Mosques and Muslim cemeteries are for the Muslim community. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

“Islam holds a place in our Western societies. Islam belongs in Europe. It holds a place in Europe’s history, in our culture, in our food and – what matters most – in Europe’s present and future. Like it or not, this is the reality.

As Europeans, we should be proud of our diversity. The fear of diversity comes from weakness, not from a strong culture.

West must learn to respect those who are different. Muslim community needs Masajid, halal meat, state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers, sharia laws, time off for Friday afternoon prayers in the Masjid, two day off for religious holidays per year and Muslim grave yards.

Terrorism and sexual grooming is nothing to do with Masajid, Imams and Muslim schools. Those Muslim youths who have been involved in terrorism and sexual grooming are the product of western education system which makes a man stupid, selfish and corrupt. They find themselves cut off from their cultural heritage, literature and poetry. They suffer from identity crises and I blame British schooling.

A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit. The whole world belongs to Muslims. He/she must learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time, he/she must learn and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural heritage and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. For a Muslim English is an economic language and Arabic is a religious while Urdu and other community languages are social and emotional.

In Islam there is no commandment to kill people by making such allegations against them. The cartoonists had exercised their freedom of expression, and freedom of expression is totally allowed in Islam. Even during the Prophet’s time there were several instances of ridicule, however the Prophet and his Companions neither punished such persons nor asked anyone to do so. On every occasion of this kind, the Prophet’s Companions always tried to positively disseminate the message of Islam. They never tried to punish these people. The killing of those people who had published the cartoons is a gravely un-Islamic act in the name of Islam. What did killing Saddam Husain do. What did killing Osama Bin laden do? NOTHING!!!. There is a long line of replacements. I don’t know the answers. He was asked by MI5 to join them…so you know he is working for them.

The Famous English playwright George Bernard Shaw said: The world much needs a man with Muhammad’s bright thinking. If a man like Mohammad were to assume The rule of modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems and bring peace and happiness to it.. Almost all greatest thinkers praised Muhammad (PBUH) and his religion, if you cannot agree with them then you have your head buried deep in the dirt or your an intellectual dwarf have nothing against dwarves that’s how they were created but an intellectual dwarf you created yourself. One of the black companion of Prophet Muhammad named Bilal holds high status in Islam even though he was previously a slave . Prophet Muhammad ended all status and economic differences and taught the people about equal rights. Those who abuse and curse Islam are the ones who do not want to treat people equally and want to enjoy privilege by amassing wealth through blood sucking capitalism, and they are the ones who made fortune from the slave trading and i saw their grand sons in Paris train stopping a black man from stepping into train.

In the Middle Ages Catholics were busy slaughtering members of rival Christian sects and non Christians like the Jews and Muslims and all in the name of Jesus and with the promise of going to Heaven if they died fighting the Holy War, There were indeed some social, economic and political factors which help explain this outburst of violence, but historians do not doubt that the primary motive for the wars, and the explanation for the appalling brutality of the Crusaders ( did you know they used to roast and then eat captured Muslim children?) was because of their religious fanaticism and the promise of an instant passport to Paradise.
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

Iftikhar Ahmad
Iftikhar Ahmad
6 years ago
Reply to  Iftikhar Ahmad

ISIS and all other terrorist organisations are the product of western Imperialism to demise Muslims and Islam.In Islam there is no commandment to kill people by making such allegations against them. The cartoonists had exercised their freedom of expression, and freedom of expression is totally allowed in Islam. Even during the Prophet’s time there were several instances of ridicule, however the Prophet and his Companions neither punished such persons nor asked anyone to do so. On every occasion of this kind, the Prophet’s Companions always tried to positively disseminate the message of Islam. They never tried to punish these people. The killing of those people who had published the cartoons is a gravely un-Islamic act in the name of Islam.

Who killed Iraqi since 2003..? Who is Valdo Dracula who killed 300.000 Muslims..? Who colonized Indonesia..? Who killed Palestinian..?? Who began first and second world war..? Who killed red Indian..? Who is Hitler..? Who is Mussolini..? Who is Stalin..? Who genocides Muslim in Myanmar..? Who is George W. Bush and his father..??? Open your eyes, ears, and heart..!!! MUSLIM IS NOT TERRORIST. Actually its the media and the western ugly civilisation(!) which has taken the duty (!) of attacking Islam as well as peace….

21 millions were killed in first and 50 millions in second world wars……no Muslim was engaged in that wars at all……
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

Iftikhar Ahmad
Iftikhar Ahmad
6 years ago
Reply to  Tiberius

Truth is always bitter. According to the Holy Quran, all children are born Muslims, it is their parents who make them Jew, Christian or others. This is one of the many reasons why now western peoples are reverting to Islam on their own free will. Through out the history, Muslims never forced non-Muslims to accept Islam. This is the main reason why Muslims lost Spain and India.

Living together requires quite simply, an acceptance of the others, of the way in which (the other) is dressed.

It is absurd to believe that Muslim schools, Imams and Masajid teach Muslim children anti-Semitic, homophobic and anti-western views. It is dangerously deceptive and misleading to address text books and discuss them out of their historical, cultural and linguistic context. It is not wrong to teach children that Jews are committing the same cruelty in Palestine what German did to them before or during Second World War. It is not wrong to teach children that anti-social behaviour, drinking, drugs, homosexuality, sex before marriage, teenage pregnancies and abortions are western values and Islam is against all such sins. This does not mean that Muslim schools teach children to hate westerners, Jews and homosexuals.

Extremism, homophobia and anti-Semitism are nothing to do with Islamic teachings and beliefs. Islam does not teach that Jews and Christians are pigs and monkeys. The Policy Exchange Think-tank should concentrate on institutionally racist British schooling with chicken racist teachers. Muslim parents do not want their children with behaviour problems that include unprovoked aggression, promiscuity, violence, eating disorder, bullying and alcohol. According to ATL, teachers believe behaviour is worse than it was five years ago, with even five year olds being disrespectful, intimidating and violent. This is the true picture of British broken society and the Muslim community does not want to be integrated.

Islam is a peaceful religion, terrorism arose in response to the massive killings done by the west in Muslim lands, starting with Afghanistan, and now the Arab world where the West is interfering now.

As a Muslim I’m taught that I have 2 kinds of brother, brothers in Islam, and brothers in humanity, that’s why I love everyone unconditionally. I believe in the truth and the truth is that Islam does not allow the deaths of innocents and you’re cherry-picking and misinterpreting and taking out of context. According to Islam, as a Muslim who studied it for more than a decade, is AGAINST the killings of innocents. Don’t judge a faith from the misguidance of others. It is a sin in Islam to kill innocent people including children, women and elderly. You are fooled by your media and anti-Islamists misinterpreting the sources of Islam.

Christian world needs to stop pointing venomous fingers at the Muslim world. Starting with the Crusades, the Inquisition, the wholesale slaughter of native Americans, the religious wars in Europe…Christianity hasn’t exactly been a shiny example. Islam teaches women are free and empowered individuals that are equal before God (one of the reasons why Muslim women not required to change surname after marriage i.e. they are not considered chattel). ‘Hijab’ is actually applicable to both believing men and women who are requested to cover their shapes when in public.

Quran states ‘there is no compulsion in religion’ i.e. you can’t force people in to belief. p.s. Muslims can marry people of other monotheistic faiths. Around 5,000 British people convert to Islam every year – and most of them are women. No wonder people are fed up with their so-called Western life style. But in fact most of the Western converts to Islam are women, which is the clearest affirmation of how well women are treated (contrary to the widely perceived images spread by certain segments of the media).

The fear of Christians converting to Islam has haunted the Church ever since the times when missionaries were sent to the Holy land to convert Muslims to Christianity but never came back. Instead they converted to Islam and stayed, drawn in no doubt by the fact that they could be spiritual and enjoy a good standard of living at the same time. If Islam did not cherish women, I don’t think these intelligent women would convert. You need to got beyond the stereotype of Women in Islam.

According to Islam; they are reverts. Nothing much to do with Christianity or Judaism; but the belief that all children are born in to Islam, but raised differently by their parents; hence those who accept Islam are merely reverting back to their original faith. Secondly; unlike other religions; Islam has no problem accepting other beliefs and religions as a different path to the same one God. After all God sent 124000 prophets since Adam; and they were all before Islam; Muhammad(PBUH) was the last amongst them. Islam is a continuation of the original beliefs; so it is not wholly shocking to say there are similarities to the bible/ Torah. It would be more surprising if there weren’t any; considering Islam accepts that they were the true faith for their time; however it was they that became distorted overtime; and Islam came to rectify that.
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

Alleged-Comment
Alleged-Comment
6 years ago

NYT (a satanic organization run by the DEVIL) is trying to create DOUBT. Using the same tactic their father SATAN used on Eve.

I would rather listen to what Yahuah wrote in Genesis about the Moslem. HE WOULD BE A WILD MAN UNABLE TO GET ALONG WITH ANYONE.

I think we see this as evidence everyday. G*D does not LIE. But the NYT does all the time – like their father SATAN!!

honkycracker
honkycracker
6 years ago

Gen 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said to her, “Now you have conceived and shall bear a son; you shall call him Ishmael, for the LORD has given heed to your affliction.12 He shall be a wild ass of a man, with his hand against everyone, and everyone’s hand against him; and he shall live at odds with all his kin.” NRSV

Mickey Oberman
Mickey Oberman
6 years ago

” “Can Islamic and European Civilizations Coexist?”

Only if Islam ever becomes civilized.
A near impossibility.

Only the Times would ask such a stupid question.

Islam is the total negation of civilized.

SemurJengkolMaknyus
SemurJengkolMaknyus
6 years ago
Reply to  Mickey Oberman

is gangbang porn also part of civilization ??

honkycracker
honkycracker
6 years ago

Are Muslims grooming young girls in the UK for prostitution civilized? Semur: if you are going to site the worst of western civilization let’s talk about the widespread pederasty and bestiality in your Islamic country.

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  honkycracker

And simultaneous to this, LGBT proselytizers with unfettered access to “public” schools are grooming young children into that lifestyle. As insidious in its own way as CAIR-written curricula on Islam.

honkycracker
honkycracker
6 years ago

Agree. LGBT have no business anywhere near children. By definition they do not have children.

honkycracker
honkycracker
6 years ago
Reply to  honkycracker

Mohammed drew the line at nine? Muslims hate the west? Go back to the hell holes you left and don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

honkycracker
honkycracker
6 years ago
Reply to  honkycracker

Go away you low life barbarian scum.

honkycracker
honkycracker
6 years ago
Reply to  honkycracker

Conservatives do not believe in homosexuality but we don’t kill them. Muslims do. That is barbarian. Hello? You force conversion and murder in the name of religion and proclaim your righteousness. We do not do that in western civilization. Your life and religion is between you and GOD. We do not force religion on people. You do. That is barbarism. Do you understand? That is why muslims will never fit in western civilization. Go back to the nations that condone that behavior and hopefully eradicate it from the face of the earth.

honkycracker
honkycracker
6 years ago
Reply to  honkycracker

It IS wrong to teach children anti-social behaviour, drinking, drugs, homosexuality, sex before marriage, teenage pregnancies and abortions. Conservatives are OPPOSED to those but we don’t kill because we disagree. The new generation is rejecting these democrat behavior. Democrats are losing elections. We are seeking to change without murdering. The tyranny of muslims is definitely not better. We do not murder in the name of religion. One’s sin is between him and his GOD. We do not want to return to the pre Medieval world that Islam embraces.

honkycracker
honkycracker
5 years ago
Reply to  honkycracker

Muslims were caught training minor females in the UK to be prostitutes. Don’t tell me muslims are in any way, shape or form moral. Certainly they are immoral in the extreme.

Mickey Oberman
Mickey Oberman
6 years ago

“…is gangbang porn also part of civilization ??”

No. it rarely was and is not now.
Although it seems to have become a Muslim specialty wherever they go these days.
And they care not if the victim is a man, woman or child or goat or camel or donkey.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

R lady boys and bacha bazi boys part of muslum civilisation?

libertyanyday
libertyanyday
6 years ago

Ask why they were segregated since the crusades………………what is wrong with people, there is a reason why things were the way they were

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago

The only reasons I buy a “fake newspaper” anymore are for the crossword puzzles and the obituaries, and am beginning to question why they see fit to drag the dead into it.

Dano50D
Dano50
6 years ago

In EVERY Muslim country I’d sailed to, the Maldives, Oman, Egypt and Turkey, they dealt with us in one of three ways; they out and out lied, they’d try belligerence if got caught, and then they’d grovel and snivel about you starving their sick children or crippled old mother.

The instant we’d hear, “No problem, my friend.” we’d check pockets for wallets and the rest of the boat for stolen property.

In that whole part of the world “baksheesh” is the norm for everything. For you uniformed infidels who never go for more than a two week quaint vacation, baksheesh is BRIBES, and you pay it for everything; parts, repairs, and services of any kind, and God help you if you needed any “official” help. Getting mail, help from the police, clearance in and out of the country, it didn’t matter, they all expected their baksheesh, and if one official figures another one got more than him, they’d get in a baksheesh war, each claiming you had to pay them more because of “problems with the paperwork you had just finished with them five minutes ago.

The reason those countries are s*** holes Trump said they are, is because their fundamental system of beliefs, Islam, says there is nothing wrong with cheating anybody not family, and actually GIVES PERMISSION ENCOURAGES to cheat infidels.

The ONLY way to win with them, was to hope we were in safe enough position to scream back at them, and I never want to see that part of the world again.

SemurJengkolMaknyus
SemurJengkolMaknyus
6 years ago
Reply to  Dano50

that are stealing mentality at personal level … with very clear definition …

how big the impact ?? world wide ??

lets compare it with institutionalized Wall Street styled stealing/cheating mentality …

which robbed savings …pensions … currency values etc …of hundred million people world wide … even US people itself ..

and yet … your society still can’t judge it clearly that this is mega stealing …

cant see elephants in the room ??

honkycracker
honkycracker
6 years ago

Semur confirms Dano’s testimony by lying. Investments are risky but can be enormously profitable for that reason. Convicted Wall Street swindlers are imprisoned and required to compensate cheated investors. No system is perfect. Wall Street is the worst in the world besides all the others.

Dan Knight
Dan Knight
6 years ago

Well said … and good observations.

Dano50D
Dano50
6 years ago
Reply to  Dan Knight

Thanks.

I’m just tired of people who spend a quaint week or two on a guided tourist package in ANY other country, saying how evil we are.

Once you’ve been to just about any of these other countries, It’s beyond ludicrous to continue to believe they have a better system than we do, and it’s because of the people.

I spent about three months anchored in Mumbai, India, and the best I can say about the experience is, “You got used to the stench.”

It was nothing to see garbage and sewage flowing in and out with the tied, and climbing ladders up docks right beside the “Gateway of India,” and the Taj Palace Tower Hotel (The one the Muslims attacked about ten years ago) locals even hung their butts over the side for a dump. While we were climbing.

The oddest thing I ever saw, was a man in an expensive business suit urinating against a wall, IN PUBLIC, holding his leather briefcase way out so as not to get it splattered.

We got to know some people in the American Embassy there, and every day, there was a line around the block for visas to America, and the Russian Embassy nearby? Nothing. Nada. Nyet. Nobody wanted to get into Russia.

The theater actually had, in its pre-movie adverts, “If you are bitten by a rat, please contact theater staff.”

And last we all, every one of us on the boat, smuggled out dozens, probably hundreds eve, of the indigenous population. WORMS. Not from the food, but from the ice in our drinks.We weren’t told the sewers leak and suck water according to tidal pressure because any time leaks were found in the pipes, all someone had to do was bribe the inspector to say the leak had been fixed.

boocat
boocat
6 years ago
Reply to  Dano50

Well, the trouble is that lots of us are extremely lucky to ever get even a “quaint week or two on a guided tourist package” ANYWHERE.

As far as “the oddest thing [you] ever saw” p*ssant, that was in Italy, wasn’t it? Or in Scotland? LOL. The filth is everywhere now.

Dano50D
Dano50
6 years ago
Reply to  boocat

It was in India. In broad daylight with street and sidewalk full of traffic and pedestrians.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

Lying was sacralised by your holey prophet for profit Indonesian muslum howler monkey.

Dano50D
Dano50
6 years ago

Oh and one last thing Semur.

I was anchored in the Honduras when that earthquake devastated Haiti.

All of China donated one million in aid.

Six Americans in their twenties, and an American yacht captain in his thirties, both docked beside me, raised over FIVE TIMES that amount in donations or relief supplies, FROM OTHER AMERICANS, which they transported to Haiti themselves, and also took volunteer doctors with them.

Any communist countries, or European countries for that matter, have individual citizens doing stuff like that?

Unfortunately, somehow the Clinton Foundation wrangled things so that, if you didn’t take aid there yourself, things had to go through them, and of course they they swindled a huge percentage for themselves, but here’s the point.

The Clintons couldn’t have gotten away with that unless the Haitian leaders and businesses were corrupt enough to turn a blind eye to their own people’s suffering.

Jokuvaan
Jokuvaan
6 years ago

Easy for them to say when its European blood that gets spilled and European women whom get raped.

Sunshine Kid
Sunshine Kid
6 years ago

If the muslims want to be segregated, let them – in another country. You cannot integrate people who will not conform to your way of life.

PatriotlizD
Patriotliz
6 years ago

The fact that the Lefties are posing this question admits to the fact that there is indeed a problem. The discussion is now moot since the Islamic Hijrah has occurred and continues unabated resulting in colonization in much of the Western world. It’s just a matter of time since Muslim women will reproduce more than the native non-Muslim citizens.comment image comment image

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  Patriotliz

Especially since native non-Muslim women are, by and large, either having abortions or not even having children, period.

PatriotlizD
Patriotliz
6 years ago

Correct…the Leftist FemiNazis have concentrated their “population control,” “women’s lib,” “protect the environment from humans” and the “Choice” messages ONLY to European women and their descendants in Western nations. These #FakeFeminists also don’t give a damn about the blatant barbaric misogyny perpetrated by non-Western cultures infecting our cultures.
It’s all about ethnic cleansing of white Western Civilization and NWO.
Hungary appeals to “mothers” to have “more babies” and there are economic incentives to preserve the Magyar ethnicity…but, Viktor Orban also welcomes native European refugees escaping the IslamoNazified Western Europe and seeking asylum in Hungary.
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Mickey Oberman
Mickey Oberman
6 years ago
Reply to  Patriotliz

” It’s just a matter of time since Muslim women will reproduce more than the native non-Muslim citizens.”
Not if their water and/or food consumed has the correct dosage of the proper “health enhancing” medicines.

This ‘medical method’ would virtually erase bloodshed on both sides.
There would be no new jihadi’s for Israel to kill.
There would be no multitudes of new jihadis striving to kill Israelis and all Jews.
As a bonus, no miscarriages,. No Muslim girls dying from female genital mutilation.
No muslim children being killed by their parents for misbehaving, No Muslim children, women and seniors being used as shields.

Ah! The benefits of modern medicine properly applied.

PatriotlizD
Patriotliz
6 years ago
Reply to  Mickey Oberman

I assume you’re being sarcastic…But, given the failing NHS in the UK and in other socialized European countries…and, w/ the additional pressure of massive influx of migrants w/ their FGM complications, their rapes, their wife beatings and their acid attacks…the plague of Socialized Medicine will only facilitate the death of many…and then it’s back to the Dark Ages (which occurred previously from the initial Islamic attacks on classical civilization by Muslim barbarians ravaging trade in the Mediterranean area.)comment image

Mickey Oberman
Mickey Oberman
6 years ago
Reply to  Patriotliz

” I assume you’re being sarcastic..”

Oh no I am very serious.

It is better than killing them and prevents them from providing killers for us.

PatriotlizD
Patriotliz
6 years ago
Reply to  Mickey Oberman

??What “health enhancing medicines” or “medical method” are you referring to?

honkycracker
honkycracker
6 years ago

Islamic civilization = convert of suffer. Do unto Muslims in our country as Muslims do unto to Christians in Islamic countries. Islam CANNOT enjoy 1st amendment protection because it forbids other religions. Bar ALL Muslim immigrants. Deport all who will not convert.

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago

The only way that Atossa Araxia Abrahmian and the New York times can get away with such lies and other Muslim rubbish is the gross ignorance and political correctness of most of the newspaper’s audience, ignorance most of all of Islam’s savage and murderous history. 81 to 91 Indians murdered after the Arab Muslims invaded the sub-continent, the entire Hindu population of Afghanistan murdered, the Persian Empire destroyed, among other things its libraries and thus knowledge destroyed. Millions in south-eastern Europe murdered after the Ottoman Muslim invasion – until defeat of the Ottoman savages outside Vienna in 1683 began their retreat, but taking with them thousands of slaves. Everywhere they went civilization destroyed by hate-filled, ignorant, bigoted savages of Mohammad. All over women and girls raped, the means of murdering men never vile enough for these vile people. But never mind, folk, Muslims and their liberals allies, disgusting people, will never inform anyone of this, just give us the driveling message of Muslim victimhood. Somehow the Muslim victimizers were and are the victims! You’ve got to hand it to them, their barefaced lies never end, and if gullible, ignorant and believe in nothing other than daily comforts and possessions, you can fall for this trash. And so much of the contemporary Western world does, it’s pathetic ‘leaders’ turning a blind eye to the disgusting behaviour of the invaders. It takes a very special cowardice and disgusting mindset like those of Theresa May, Angela Merkel and others, to ignore the mass murders and rape of your girls and women, but they manage.

Dan Knight
Dan Knight
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

well said Rob

Stephen Honig
Stephen Honig
6 years ago

Unless there is a reformation with Islam they can never exist. As a matter of fact they can’t coexist with their own kind.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Honig

The whole concept of reforming islum is a ridiculous red herring and a criminal offense in most all muslum states.

Jeff Jones
Jeff Jones
6 years ago

Islam needs to stay in Islam, so don’t bring that Radical baggage here. Most of the Quran’s teachings are illegal and against western laws and our 2A will guarantee our laws are respected.

Dennis Schaaf
Dennis Schaaf
6 years ago

I think I understand some things about liberalism.
What I don’t understand though is why the NYS, which is run by jews, constantly makes excuses for
muslims. Muslims hate jews, as we know. Is it all about votes, at least here?

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  Dennis Schaaf

This is the same paper that in the 1930’s whitewashed Stalin’s atrocities (via Stalin parrot Walter Duranty), in WWII worked to cover up the Holocaust and buried any news thereabouts in the back pages, in small 1-column one-paragraph dispatches – and in the 1950’s, helped prop up the Communist regime of Castro in Cuba (via Herbert Matthews). So in their bending over backwards to Islam, it’s business as usual for them.

The Daily News is really no better in this regard . . .

Dennis Schaaf
Dennis Schaaf
6 years ago

I am aware of their past sins but the $64,000 question is WHY?

Dan Knight
Dan Knight
6 years ago
Reply to  Dennis Schaaf

Communism is their god. (To put it on a bumper sticker level)

pfwag
pfwag
6 years ago

Islam:
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BasBarra
BasBarra
6 years ago

Indeed, the ‘Andalucian model’ of co-existence, depended upon first and foremost – acceptance of the ABSOLUTE POWER of the Moslem Caliphate Rulers! Secondly was STRICTLY CONDITIONAL ALSO, OF THE REGULAR TAXATION (Marram – the ‘life’ tax) autocratically decided by the Vizier on EVERY Non-Muslim resident. Thirdly, UPON COMPLETE ACCEPTANCE of the fact that one’s property was subject to removal without notice – DISPOSSESSION!
SUCH A LIFE WILL BE OURS, IF WE ALLOW MUCH MORE ‘PROGRESS’ TOWARD ISLAMISATION!
It has been reckoned that (EVEN WITHOUT MUCH FURTHER IMMIGRATION) THIS WILL HAVE ALL HAPPENED TO BRITAIN BY 2050! AND NO-ONE IS CONSIDERING STOPPING – EVEN SLOWING! – THE FLOW OF IMMIGRATION OF ALMOST ENTIRELY MUSLIM PEOPLES!

pfwag
pfwag
6 years ago

Need to apply their rules to them and destroy the enemy before they destroy you.

anonQ
anonQ
6 years ago

Can Islamic and European Civilizations Coexist? What a ridiculous question. They are heathens, just look at what they are doing in nations across Europe. Coexistence is imposable at this time. Anyone that can’t see that Islamic and European living together is like trying to mix oil with water is blind and not much of a thinker.

barebones
barebones
6 years ago

” ….. one of the Times’ resident shills for Islam, Atossa Araxia Abrahmian ….. ”

“shill”? The other day she was a “sharmuta”! why the back off? You probably had it right the first time.

Geppetto
Geppetto
6 years ago

The high price of ignorance disguised as intellectual acumen. The “most brilliant” among us; e.g. the NYT editorial board, are spreading this blatant horse manure that fits neatly within their grand delusion of multiculturalism, and the citizens of the free world breathe a sigh of relief as they happily inhale this noxious sleeping gas, blissfully unaware of the hell that awaits. Shouts of “wake up America, Europe, etc.” before it’s too late, are met with derision, incarceration, or fall on deaf ears. What we’ve got is unadulterated appeasement, the natural, civilized, human inclination to avoid conflict at almost any cost. The west rationalizes, denies and ignores the threat as it wallows in its self inflicted guilt. Jihadists are expert at using this inherent weakness against us. This New York Times article is a perfect and disturbing example of this.

Deep_Bass
Deep_Bass
6 years ago

There never was a bad crusade.

Steve
Steve
6 years ago

Al-Jazeera has spoken. Once more the Lillies of the Valley editors have smeared their excrement across the pages.

Deb M
Deb M
6 years ago

Good article Pamela, answer is they never will. Even God authorised separatism in the building of Tower of Babel, as evil men had planned on climbing up to heaven, so Genesis tells us: But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. 6 The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.” Therefore, those who profess to follow our Father in Heaven, He authorised separatism and things go wrong when we depart from His word.

Carol
Carol
6 years ago

Ahmed. If your people were not killing, raping and pillaging you woudn’t have a problem.Since your people do, our people are going to be wary of your people.

Piotr Leitner
Piotr Leitner
6 years ago

The clear answer
to the problem is in the minds of the citizens of the Central European
countries: Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Lithuania, Latvia,
Estonia, Croatia, Slovenia, … in other countries governments do not
represent the views of citizens, similarly some EU politicians act as if
they were performing orders, orders. As if they were trying to implement a new concept of the world … not necessarily in the interest of Europeans!

https://twitter.com/TimmermansEU

CharlieSeattle
CharlieSeattle
5 years ago
Reply to  Piotr Leitner

In Solidarity with EU “self-declared patriots” betrayed by their own governments, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic invaded Western Europe on two broad fronts early this morning. The threat posed by 4 new muslim nuclear powers in about 10 years, Iran, France, Germany and Britain, was too great to ignore any longer.

Cheer on the Christian Warsaw Pact!

German Chancellor Angela Merkel retreated to Berchtesgaden with her muslim refugee sycophants chanting, Allahu Akbar! Sieg Heil!

France is expected to surrender out of hand.

Britain threatens to flood the English Chunnel to stop them.

Italy will join the winning side, as usual. Update at 11PM.

byronmullet
byronmullet
6 years ago

No Islamic and European civilization cannot coexist. Islam can’t even coexist with itself as it is a 1400 year long Muslim sectarian blood feud. Strange the Europeans and Canadians limit critical speech about Islam when Islam is an institutionalized human rights violation. Does anybody point that out? It’s equivalent of outlawing saying ouch when somebody steps on your foot. It doesn’t make any sense, where are our thinkers, intellectuals and theologians? We must have aborted them. It would be just like God to allow the judgement on us that we brought on ourselves.

Piotr Leitner
Piotr Leitner
6 years ago
Reply to  byronmullet

Wise citizens of the world must support each other! YES ! We have to act in solidarity and not be allowed to argue!

byronmullet
byronmullet
6 years ago
Reply to  Piotr Leitner

“Not be allowed to argue?” I was with you until you said that not sure what you mean? Free speech is important in Christianity, this is why Christians founded America. Secularist liberals nor Muslims neither one could have invented America, or other Christian democracies, because they want to marginalize the Christianity which gives us free speech about our beliefs, conscience and human rights…

John from NY
John from NY
6 years ago

“Ah, yes colonial legacies – nothing about Islamic imperialism and annihilationism. Nothing about the centuries of jihadi wars, land appropriations, cultural annihilations, and enslavements.”

A generation of Americans has been brainwashed into believing the lies that Western civilization was founded entirely on colonization and oppression and that Islam represents the oppressed, despite the fact that most people fleeing Islamic hellholes seek refuge in the West. And those that are still brainwashed by the propaganda will welcome the real oppressors (who seek to destroy us) with open arms. It is all upside down. The New York Times continues to propagate for the side of evil.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

“Islam is a religion of peace love and JUSTICE.” Your Al Taqiyya needs a lot more work muslum baboon. You see, the first law of lying is that your lies must be believable.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

“Muslums never forced non-muslims to accept Islam” Bwahahahahahahahaahhaahahah. Pull the other one muslum baboon it plays the Star Spangled Banner.

Captain
Captain
6 years ago

Answer my question that I previously posted. That’s if you have the giggleberries to answer it.

Captain
Captain
6 years ago

Tell me another two ton whopper. LOL!! Let me continue..if you let a child grow up without talking to him or her about islam, they won’t know islam exists or what the concept of God is. Religion (islam is not a religion and there are many reasons why that is so) is not a default. Furthermore, to be a muslim is to believe there is no god but allah, who by the way happens to muhammed and vice versa and to follow muslim teachings. So if it were true that everyone is born a muslim, I need evidence for this, for example, babies would spontaneously start praying towards mecca, or once the brat begins to talk, it would start babbling about allah. But babies don’t do that do they now? So it’s very clear that they are not born muslim. Incidentally, I am still waiting for the answer to my question.

satcatchet
satcatchet
6 years ago

Well this is a no-brainer unless you live in the EU.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

Bill Warner once spoke to my Act for America chapter, by the time he was done w/his presentation the entire room was silently stunned.

SmithWinston6478
SmithWinston6478
6 years ago

Hyenas cannot assimilate with house pets.

boocat
boocat
6 years ago

Truly. They murder us and destroy our culture yet we are supposed to be “reasonable”! Total insanity.

Marco
Marco
6 years ago

My God they are asking if we are wrong to resist! I hope the alligator eats them first! How ignorant, dangerously ignorant, and stupid they are!

So true
So true
6 years ago

Of course MooSlimes can coexist with Christians, just look at the mooSlime countries and see the peaceful coexistence of live mooSlimes with the dead Christians and Jews they killed. Islime is a religion of pis s. who commands it’s believers to lie and kill none mooSlimes. It’s in their fn Qaqauran.

Captain
Captain
6 years ago

LOL!! It’s because of high birth rates. muslims have more children then members of religions. As you can see, I did not say “Other ” religions since islam is not a religion and there are many reasons why that is so. Incidentally, , millions upon millions of muslims leave islam each and every year!!! With that said, The rest of your post is nothing but lies to the brim and I will prove it to you. Question..is isis and others like them..are they following your quran to the letter, and if not, why? Let’sget it on!! .

Mickey Oberman
Mickey Oberman
6 years ago

The New York Times asked:
“Can Islamic and European Civilizations Coexist?” and it is incredible (as in beyond belief, hard to believe, far-fetched, implausible).”

Why, NYT, just look at the amazing way they are coexisting in today’s Europe.
Tomorrow would be even more impressive.

Mickey Oberman
Mickey Oberman
5 years ago

The question:
“PAMELA GELLER, BREITBART NEWS: NEW YORK TIMES ASKS, ‘CAN ISLAMIC AND EUROPEAN CIVILIZATIONS COEXIST?’ OR ‘THE WEST IS WRONG TO RESIST’ ”

The answer:
“Paris jihad murderer: “Allah guided me and chose me among his servants to open his path”
” Paris jihad murderer: “Allah guided me and chose me among his servants to open his path”
“Paris jihad murderer: “Allah guided me and chose me among his servants to open his path”

IS THAT NOT PERFECTLY CLEAR TO EVEN TH MOST OBTUSE POLITICIAN?

0349 JAT
0349 JAT
5 years ago

Every other religion is at fault. But the muslims and the religion of peace are innocent of any wrongdoing.
They try very hard to live in peace with all others. (sarc)
Muslims cannot and will not live in peace anywhere with anyone.

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