Hugh Fitzgerald: The Hindu Response To Muslim Aggression: Is There A Lesson For The West?

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Previously I discussed the thesis of Ding Gang, a well-connected Chinese writer on geopolitics, who wrote last fall that he believed that Indian Muslims, unlike their counterparts elsewhere, were less extreme, less violent, less prone to engaging in terrorist acts, and that he attributed this to the “moderate” side of Hinduism, which kept Muslims to a large extent satisfied, and certainly not eager to take part in terrorism.

By way of response, I gave a list of many serious terrorist attacks carried out by Indian Muslims. I also noted that the most devastating attacks by Indian Muslims took place in Kashmir, and that much of the news from that region has not always penetrated into the Western consciousness. One reason is that the government, and media, of India may not wish it to be known how poorly they have defended their own — that is, Hindus — in Kashmir. For the killings of the Pandits have been particularly gruesome.

Here is what the Pandits endured in the pogrom of 1990:

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The days that followed the night of January 19, 1990 saw Kashmiri Pandits being killed in scores every day. Atrocities against KPs had become the order of the day. Everywhere in Kashmir, from Budgam to Brijbehara, from Kupwara to Kanikadal, there was hardly a day when Kashmiri Pandits were not being tortured and killed. The forms of torture ranged from the gouging out of eyes, to cutting off of genitals, to burning bodies with cigarette butts and even chopping off body parts — all were used by Muslims killing Pandits. Sarwanand Kaul Premi, a noted  Brahmin scholar, had nails hammered into his forehead.. BK Ganjoo was killed in his home and his wife was asked to eat the rice soaked in his blood. Sarla Bhat, a nurse, was gang-raped before being killed and her naked body was thrown on the street. The killers of Ravinder Pandita of Mattan danced over his body. The bodies of two Pandits, Brijlal and Choti, were tied to a jeep in Shopian and dragged for 10 km.

Girja Tikoo, a school teacher in Bandipora, was gang-raped before being killed. There are hundreds of such stories. Meanwhile, the meek and feeble Indian state looked the other way. A notorious terrorist named Bitta Karate alone killed more than 20 Pandits and had no shame accepting the same. …More than a thousand Pandits were killed, tortured and raped within a few days.

Ding Gang appears to have completely overlooked this long-drawn-out act of mass sadism by Indian Muslims in his desire to see India’s Muslims as exceptions to the “radicalism” he finds elsewhere. He appears not to realize, either, how many bicycle, bus, train bombings (and deliberate derailings, by tampering with the tracks) in India have been the result of homegrown Muslim terrorism, that is, members of the Indian Mujahideen and other domestic terrorists. At Jaipur, in Varanasi, at the German bakery in Pune, in the series of bombings in Ahmedabad, Delhi, Uttar Pradesh, Bangalore, these acts of terrorism by Muslims in India are given very little attention in the Western media unless foreigners are among the victims. This may have misled Ding Gang into thinking India is largely free of domestic Muslim terrorism. Terrorism in India just doesn’t get the coverage that attacks by Muslims in Europe routinely receive.

And there is one other countervailing force holding Indian Muslims in partial check: Fear. Unlike in Europe, Muslims in India have a healthy fear of violent retaliation for any acts of terrorism. There are a few hundred million Hindus who do not work in offices; many of them are poor laborers, or peasant farmers, easy to whip up into a mob. Hindu nationalism has been on the rise, as the victory of the BJP in 2014 testifies. It’s not hard to arouse anti-Muslim sentiment; it’s never far from the surface. Hindus in the “Hindutva” movement, or in the BJP, are ready to remind the Hindu masses of what happened during the several hundred years of Muslim rule. According to the Indian historian K. S. Lal, between 70 and 80 million Hindus may have been killed during that period, while millions of others, of course, converted to Islam to avoid having to pay, as dhimmis, the Jizyah and submit to other onerous conditions. Many of the Hindus are ready to retaliate with tit-for-tat violence, or often, in retaliating, with even greater violence. In 2002, after a train carrying Hindu pilgrims was set on fire by Muslims, killing 68 Hindus, the Hindus in Gujarat erupted, and the resulting inter-communal riots led to 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus being killed. Many Muslim properties were destroyed. These “Gujarat riots,” as they became known, were a lesson for Muslims. It was not the government they had to fear, but Hindus acting out their rage and resentment, and their historic memories of the brutality of Muslim rulers. “Why does it seem that Muslims in India have remained largely apart from the radicalization that has happened to Muslim groups in other parts of the world

Ding Gang fails to realize that in India proper, Muslims have not been nearly as quiescent as he seems to think. Though two of the most important acts of terrorism — those in Mumbai in 2008 and at the Parliament Building in Delhi — were conducted by Pakistan-based groups, there has certainly been plenty of  terrorism by Indian Muslims, including attacks by members of the group Indian Mujahideen. The 1993 bombings in Mumbai, with 257 dead, and 717 wounded, making it still the deadliest of any terrorist attack in India, were carried out by Indian Muslims controlled by the famous gangster Dawood Ibrahim. The 1998 series of bombings at Coimbatore Junction Railway Station, with 12 separate bombings, killing 58 and wounding more than 200, were part of a plot by local Muslims to kill L. K. Advani, a leader in the BJP (Bharatiya Janata Party, or Hindu Nationalists). The ten major attacks by the Indian Mujahideen, right up to the present, about which Ding Gang ought to, but may not, know, are listed above. That those attacks are not more numerous testifies not so much to the meek-and-mildness of Indian jihadists, as to their incapacity, as compared to the terrorists who prepare their attacks, undisturbed, in Pakistan, and also to the efficient monitoring of the Indian Muhajideen by the Indian security services.

Since 1970, there have been 9,982 separate incidents in India of violent attacks, by both Muslims (Indian and Pakistani) and by Hindus. The Indian Muslims have been especially active in Kashmir and Mumbai, but elsewhere the number of attacks by them has been relatively stable. As for Hindu attacks on Muslims, they have been steadily increasing. As noted previously, Hindus have been emboldened by the political rise of the Hindu Nationalist Party, the BJP (the Bharatiya Janata Party), and the victory of its candidate, Narendra Modi, in the 2014 election. Since then, the numbers of attacks by Hindus on individual Muslims have gone up markedly, and in the last few years groups of Hindu “cow vigilantes,” easily whipped up by rumors about Muslims who have supposedly ill-treated a cow (sacred to Hindus), or even eaten beef, have lynched a dozen victims. This brand of Hindu hysteria should be, and has been, deplored by Hindu leaders, and has nothing do with the retaliatory attacks by Hindus after being attacked by Muslims.

Ding Gang may think that Muslims in India have rejected “radical Islam” and have not been involved in terrorism, but the record does not bear him out. It is true that the world media pay far less attention to such attacks in India, compared to that given to terrorism in Europe, and then do so only if those attacks are truly spectacular, as were the 2008 attacks in Mumbai carried out by Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Pakistani group. That attack contained all the elements of high drama: the terrified guests barricaded at the Taj, a luxury hotel, the young Jewish couple at Nariman House, a Chabad center, who were killed with unusual cruelty, while an Indian nanny saved the life of their baby; a half-dozen other sites where murder most foul was committed. By comparison, the Indian Mujahideen have struck mainly targets — buses or trains load with Hindu pilgrims — that offer little to capture the imagination of foreign journalists. Ding Gang explains what he sees as the paucity of attacks by Indian Muslims by reference to soothing aspects of the ‘“moderate” side of Hinduism. It’s not Hinduism, as Ding Gang maintains, but the behavior of Hindus, which is a different thing, and is most definitely not “moderate,” that helps explain the relatively subdued behavior of Indian Muslims.

Muslims in India, to the extent that they are committing fewer terrorist acts than they might, are doing so not because they reject “radical Islam,” but because they recognize the dangers at this point of attacking Hindus. The are outnumbered more than 8 to 1 by Hindus, and many of those Hindus can easily be roused to a fever pitch of anti-Muslim feeling. After all, they are well aware of how their ancestors were treated during the centuries of Muslim oppression, subject to every sort of brutality including mass murder. Ding Gang thinks that India has found a way to keep its Muslims from being “radicalized” — that is, from engaging in terrorism. He asks: “Why does it seem that Muslims in India have remained largely apart from the radicalization that has happened to Muslim groups in other parts of the world?” His answer is that Hinduism, because of its tolerance, seems to dampen Muslim extremism. I think he has it exactly backwards. To the extent that Muslim extremism is less evident in India than in many countries, it is because, after Partition, the Hindus became numerically so much more powerful than the Muslims who remained in India, and ideologically became steadily more supportive of the idea of Hindutva (an ideology that seeks to establish the hegemony of the Hindus and the Hindu way of life), and more resentful of what Hindus endured under centuries of Muslim rule, that they became more willing to fight physically, to retaliate quickly for any Muslim attacks, and even to suppress the Muslims, to make clear, and to remind them, who’s boss (as, of course, the Muslims do to Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh). The evidence suggests that: first, Pakistani Muslims commit much of the terrorism in India because they are freer to prepare such attacks inside Pakistan, in a sense relieving Indian Muslims of the duty; second, Indian Muslims are not as peaceful as Ding Gang seems to think, but have committed a considerable number of terrorist attacks, especially in Kashmir; third, and most important, if Indian Muslims are not as involved quite as much in terrorism as are Muslims elsewhere, it’s only because they know that the Hindus in India have repeatedly shown that they are ready to retaliate with ferocity. There’s a lesson in that third point for the West, but it’s not one that, given its present course of appeasement, it’s likely to learn.

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DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

Who Knew? French Migrant Crisis Spirals Out of Control
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11848/france-migrant-crisis
– French Interior Minister Gérard Collomb is “shocked, simply shocked”…
– ho hum

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

Silvio Berlusconi calls for 600,000 illegal migrants to be deported from Italy, calling it “a social bomb ready to explode in Italy.”
http://www.ansa.it/english/news/politics/2018/02/05/migrants-out-says-berlusconi-2_2fa27b8d-7760-4fe7-acfc-a5f8d00af9b2.html
“Luca Traini, a 28-year-old militant for the anti-migrant league, shot and wounded six migrants in a drive-by shooting spree in the Marche city Macerata, days after the discovery there of the body of an 18-year-old Italian woman allegedly killed and dismembered by a Nigerian immigrant.”
– ‘vigilante’ is an Italian word
– as usual, Euro-commies ignore the people’s will
– then act shocked when people take the law into their own hands

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Next time, I’m sending someone that can hit the broad side of a barn. Six wounded and none killed? What a waste of good ammunition.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

Well, Italians are often disorganized…

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Thanks for the link, DemocracyRules. A very enlightening read.

shirley versace
shirley versace
6 years ago

this is Europe’s future – heck it is Europe’s present – we just haven’t publicly acknowledged it. But the muslims have

Rocinante44
Rocinante44
6 years ago

mountbatten carved india into two pieces to give the muslims their own space, but as typical with muslims, that wasn’t enough…they want all of india. Why anyone in the US or Europe would look at this fact and think it’s OK to let muslims into our world is beyond belief. muslims are incapable of peaceful co-existence

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago
Reply to  Rocinante44

Agree. That is why the world needs Trump.

As long as the Longest running Lie “Islam has nothing to with terrorism/jihad” continue the infiltration and stealth subversion will continue.

Its upto every patriot who wants to defend their country by sharing info like this http://bit.ly/2rF8pfo

Trump is also first president to call out the pakis for looting $33 Billion in aid and fooling previous admins with bundle of lies!

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

Ar best we have EIGHT years to set the record straight. TRUMP would be the ONLY ONE to do that. I think he will easily win re-election but it will be nasty. I pray he can really clean up our country.

Cai
Cai
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Maybe more than 8 years via a possible family dynasty……..it’s been done before.

Millionmileman
Millionmileman
6 years ago
Reply to  Rocinante44

Just like Israel and the Palestinians in 1948. It was not good enough, so 6 Arab countries attacked Israel (the size of New Jersey).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHmBiATUono

Thomas Faddis
Thomas Faddis
6 years ago
Reply to  Millionmileman

And Israel wiped their dirty a$$es as I recall. ..

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Thomas Faddis

Not in ’48’ they didn’t. The War of Independence was a close shave for Israel.

poetcomic1
poetcomic1
6 years ago

It was practically a miracle.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  poetcomic1

It WAS a miracle.

harbidoll
harbidoll
6 years ago
Reply to  poetcomic1

& the memory/fear of the Holocaust

Bikinis not BurkasD
Bikinis not Burkas
6 years ago
Reply to  Thomas Faddis
Philosophy
Philosophy
6 years ago
Reply to  Rocinante44

There is little confusion about, as you said—mountbatten carved india into two pieces to give the muslims their own space—–Most people blame Britisher for partion.

I have answer in separate box with two image and and more details…..

Philosophy
Philosophy
6 years ago
Reply to  Rocinante44

There is little confusion about, as you said—mountbatten carved india into two pieces to give the muslims their own space—–Most people blame Britisher for creation of Pakistan, or blame Jinnah. But this is wrong claim.

Pakistan was created created by Gandhi, with plan political action. Gandhi want Britisher to quite India, leaving India safe in to hand of Muslim ruler. Even Gandhi want Jinnah to rule India, but Jinnah refuse, as he want total Islamized India, and Gandhi had no problem with total Islamization of India.

I will give you Gandhi’s two important quote here, and you will know the reality.

Beside most people know nothing about Gandhi’s role in reformation of Caliphate in India, which was destroyed in Turk by Mustafa Kamal Pasha, simple goggle it and you will know History of Calipha in Turk…

But, Gandhi was first non–Muslim, Hindu who lead Jihad in Mopla–Malbar, present day Kerala, and Jihad was against Britishers as well as against Hindu. In that Jihad, thousand of Hindu were killed, converted to Islam and thousand Hindu woman were raped and killed or sale for prostitution……..You can know this by googling.

Here read Gandhi’s pro-muslim statements, and his politics.
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Georgiaboy61
Georgiaboy61
6 years ago
Reply to  Philosophy

The nonviolent policies of a Gandhi work only against a civilized opponent such as the British were; the Muslims do not engage in such niceties. The Indian people know this, thanks to the numerous massacres of Hindus down through the centuries by the Muslim invaders.

Bikinis not BurkasD
Bikinis not Burkas
6 years ago
Reply to  Rocinante44

Quran (8:39)
– “And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder,
unbelief) and religion is all for Allah”

Philosophy
Philosophy
6 years ago
Reply to  Rocinante44

This is not true, that mountbatten carved india into two pieces to give the muslims their own space..

It is India’s and now world’s most stupid religious politician Gandhi, who gave all Hindustan to Musilm to bring their Islamic rule over Hindu first and later over all nation on earth.

Britishers….specifically Lord Curzon, and Loard Churchil and Turk’s ruler Mustafa Kamel Pasha had destroyed Islam with its Caliph in 1919, but it was world’s most stupid Gandhi bring back that Islam in to the land of Hindustan…..

So please correct your…..I meant to say to Western People…..knowledge. Blame Gandhi.

Now to destroy Islam, all have to fight against Gandhi and Gandhism first, as he and his idealism has destroyed the thread of Civilization.

I will enclosed here Gandhi’s two quote and Curzon’s one quote as a proof of my claim….

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Philosophy
Philosophy
6 years ago

I am Indian. I know Kashmir problem very well. Now knowledge is not problem, most people know better than me about Kashmir problem, but what is still remain unknown is this…..In India it look Muslim are more brave and Hindus are cowards. Hindu are not able to protect their land, property, family members…..but Islam is state protected religion. We had Gandhi, who fought Britisher and he is so called leader of Indian freedom, which is not true. He was leader of Muslim freedom to kill Hindu and Islamized Hindustan under state’s protection.

Gandhi’s pro-Muslim politics is in practise under congress….name of political party, founded by Gandhi. I will quote here his one quote, that will give idea, about Gandhi’s pro-Muslim politics.

Kashmiri Brahman were weaponless, without police protection. Congress had follow Gandhi’s pro-Muslim politics…..even our opposite political party…BJP…were helpless, could do nothing about Kashmiri Pandit….

Any way know Gandhi’s politics..comment image comment image

Geoffrey Britain
Geoffrey Britain
6 years ago
Reply to  Philosophy

Ghandi said the same thing about the Jews and the Nazi death camps.

R. Arandas
R. Arandas
6 years ago

And something similar regarding the Muslims:comment image

Aniruddha
Aniruddha
6 years ago
Reply to  Philosophy

Yes Muslims are very brave when it comes to murdering unarmed, defenceless people, especially women and children. If Muslims were really braver than Hindus, then the Pakistani Army would have never surrendered the Kargil Heights, even after occupying them stealthily. It took Hindu soldiers of the Indian Army 2 days to climb up the steep Kargil mountain, in the face of a barrage of artillery fire from the Pakistani Army who were barricaded at the top. The Hindu soldiers not only made it to the top, but they neutralized the supposedly brave Muslims in hand to hand combat and recaptured the Kargil Heights, probably the only time in history that an army occupying a mountain-top has been dislodged. So the so-called bravery of Muslims is only revealed when it comes to taking on those who are unprepared. In every single battle after partition, which true to their religion the Pakistani Army has started, the Indian Army has given them a bloody nose. The only people who believe in the bravery of Muslims are Muslims themselves, though the ones in India are now clearly having second thoughts.

GreyhoundFancier
GreyhoundFancier
6 years ago
Reply to  Aniruddha

The Confederates occupying Lookout Mountain were dislodged in the “battle above the clouds” in early 1864.

Geoffrey Britain
Geoffrey Britain
6 years ago

All India has to do is issue its police and soldiers hollow point ammo that encapsulates lard. Also, execute any captured Muslim terrorist in an UNCLEAN manner. I recommend drowning them in pigs’ blood. Do it in a clear acrylic chamber and upload the video to a special website for Muslim edification. NO Muslim terrorist is going to risk permanent expulsion from ‘paradise’, which by their own beliefs (Allah has declared it!)… awaits any ‘unclean’ Muslim.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago

Why make it so complicated? Just kill them ALL.

Georgiaboy61
Georgiaboy61
6 years ago

Those are the tactics instituted by U.S. Army General John “Black Jack” Pershing (then a more-junior officer)against the fanatical Islamic Moro tribesmen fighting the U.S. in the Philippine Insurrection of 1898-1901. They worked – and could work again. Of course, it didn’t harm his cause that he had superior force of arms on his side.

mackykam
mackykam
6 years ago

The hindus hate the muslims for the past, and hate them because indigenous muslims were almost all converted hindu untouchables. The indian muslims hate the hindus for classifying them as untouchables and outcastes.

R. Arandas
R. Arandas
6 years ago
Reply to  mackykam

Actually, it’s more religious than racial hatred. The two belief systems are very incompatible, and Hindus were never really made a People of the Book under Islam.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  R. Arandas

Only Christians and Jews can be people of the book.

harbidoll
harbidoll
6 years ago

Book!

Philosophy
Philosophy
6 years ago

You refer Bible and Quran as book, book on Truth. This meant to rejects of books on knowledge [science–logic and reason], that is to invite destruction of all human values.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Philosophy

“People of the book” is how the holey quran refers to Christians and Jews, not me. Strictly speaking, only people of the book were allowed dhimmitude, everyone else has the binary choice: convert to islum or die. This POV was espoused by an Iranian Ayatrollah, I believe it was Sistani, who compares the unbeliever in islum to excrement.

mackykam
mackykam
6 years ago
Reply to  R. Arandas

the hatred isn’t racial as they are both Dravidian. Islam is monotheistic, hindus polytheistic.

Philosophy
Philosophy
6 years ago
Reply to  mackykam

You miss the meaning of Ved. Hindu are vedic. What is ved? Ved is sanskrit word for knowledge. Ved is set of philosophical principle, like West is Greek Philosophy.

Hindu are truly secular in philosophical sense. It is muslim they hate Hindu, the way Muslim hate Western, includes Jews for being science oriented.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  mackykam

The Hindus are right in their assessment of muslims.

Philosophy
Philosophy
6 years ago
Reply to  mackykam

You are presenting here is Marxist version. The idea of untouchability was invented by Muslim and enforced on Hndu by MUslim.

Because of Islamic rule, Hindu loss their primary relation with Ved…which is philosophical system,. When we say Western, it clearly meant philosophical system of Greek, that has form Western World. Same way and in same mode, Ved is philosophical side for Hindu.

Muslim had destroyed this link and Hindu became brainwashed, slave and mindless…..

mackykam
mackykam
6 years ago
Reply to  Philosophy

muslims invented the hindu caste system? I did not know that….

Philosophy
Philosophy
6 years ago
Reply to  mackykam

Muslim invented the concept of ‘Untouchability’ Most people know very little about Islam. Here is one letter from Ex-Muslim. Read and know true nature of Islam, what quran order its followers? and What is Quran…

For Muslim, all non-Muslim are unclean, untouchable, non-believers, liable for violent to death punishment…Is this not form of untouchability?

Caste system is different thing, it is not religious order, but Caste is classification of people according to profession or education. Brahmin means people who are related with Education….etc

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mackykam
mackykam
6 years ago
Reply to  Philosophy

muslims originally had a cutout for people of the book, Jews and christians. they were forced to pay for the privilege of living under islamic rule. Pagans who refused to accept allah were dispatched.

I am quite well acquainted with islam, its beliefs and its history. they tried to entice Jews to join up by emulating Jewish practices in grotesque ways.
whereas Jews pray 3 times daily muslims decided 5 would be better. Laws of kosher were substituted with halal. pilgrimage to Jerusalem became pilgrimage to mecca. you get the point….

Georgiaboy61
Georgiaboy61
6 years ago
Reply to  mackykam

All non-Muslims must live under Islamic rule, if they reside in Muslim lands. Their fates are entirely in the hands of their Muslim masters; the caliph may order them imprisoned or executed at any time for any reason. True, they may be allowed to live as second-class citizens, who pay the jizya tax – or they may be cut down, sold into slavery, imprisoned in concentration or forced-labor camps – or simply cut down. In a Muslim land, a non-Muslim – whether Hindu, Jew, Christian, Buddhist or atheist – has no rights save those which his overlords grant him.

Why would any non-Muslim want to live in such a place?

Philosophy
Philosophy
6 years ago
Reply to  mackykam

Greek were Pagan, India’s vedic people were pagan, who express philosophy using symbolism of god and goddess. Goddess of Beauty–liberty–war–wealth….are examples of pagan culture.

Abrahmic theologies are brainwashing belief system.

Now the point is not separation of State and Religion, but total destruction of religion, and state must be purely secular.

mackykam
mackykam
6 years ago
Reply to  Philosophy

crack pipe dream…and your ignorance is nothing short of appalling in this matter.

The Abrahamic theology, as you put it, is a cornerstone of the Mosaic Laws that specifically lay out the structure of State. Judges and police are specifically commanded. Judicial councils range in size from a triumvirate, to a larger 23 person court to the Supreme Sanhedrin of 70 Judges.

Two Witnesses are required to bring testimony, and circumstantial evidence is verbotten. Punishments for perjury are specified; specific punishment for specific crimes delineated. Co-mingling of priesthood and Head of State are strictly forbidden. There is your separation of State and religion.

The Talmud is overwhelmingly a catalog of legal discussions, with precedents, challenges, opinions and ruling contained therein.And over the succeeding millennia new views and opinions, given new circumstances and scientific breakthroughs, have led to new opinions and interpretations without ignoring accepted legal precedents.

Jewish law was divided into civil and criminal laws, some foundational to western civil codes.

As I said before, your ignorance of these matters are appalling, but not surprising at all.

Philosophy
Philosophy
6 years ago
Reply to  mackykam

You are describing your own subjective vision about Muslim and Hindu…..You know nothing about Muslim, as well as Hindu….

Muslim hate all non-muslim, includes Hindu and Jews and Christian and western world. Here is one letter from Ex-Muslim, that will give you clear idea about Islam….read and remember…

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mackykam
mackykam
6 years ago
Reply to  Philosophy

my comments are muslim hindu specific, not muslim general….get with the program.

Philosophy
Philosophy
6 years ago
Reply to  mackykam

I have answered in context of Hindu-Muslim, with more details and authoritative quote too. I am being Hindu, I am with program quite naturally.

reyol
reyol
6 years ago

The Gandhi state of India has a fantasy of itself as the most religiously tolerant country in the world. They love praise like what Ding Gang had to offer. The Indian political elites may prefer their fantasy but the street and country Hindus have to live with the reality of ‘co-existence’ with the Mohammedans.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago

Frankly, I can only hope that Europe blows up with war first. Then perhaps there is an end to the madness. Unfortunately under Common Core either the subject of Islam and wars is not properly covered or ignored. Students are being taught how wonderful Islam is and how SUPERIOR it is to Christianity and Judaism. The liberal media HIDES the tensions and terrorism.

R. Arandas
R. Arandas
6 years ago

Four months before the 1947 Partition of India, and not very long before he was assassinated by a Hindu who thought he was betraying his people to the Muslims, Gandhi stated that:
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IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  R. Arandas

A fellow Hindu killed him and he deserved it.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

Another instance of a media invented “heroic patriotic philosopher” who was far over rated and a liability to Hindus.

Aniruddha
Aniruddha
6 years ago

He more than deserved it. His assassin, Nathuram Godse, should be celebrated as a martyr because he prevented Gandhi from selling the country to the Islamists. But the story, of course, is quite different. Gandhi is a holy cow, and no criticism of him is allowed. A book that explored the reasons behind his killing, called Nine Hours To Rama by a western writer, Stanley Wolpert, has been banned in India for decades because it exposed the truth.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

21st century Godhra train burning: Indian muslums planned and executed an attack on a trainload of Hindu pilgrims, burning them alive in their train car.

Philosophy
Philosophy
6 years ago

Yes, true. But Congress had defend Muslim for nearly twenty years, in court and Jailed police officers who try to arrest suspected Muslim. One familiar case is Ishrat Jahan case, she was suice bomber, but Congress Government came out openly to defend Muslim interest and arrest all police officer and jail them who encounter her.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Philosophy

If the Hindus were to rise up against their muslums overlords and muslum collaborators in India I would help in any way I possibly could. Hopefully India and Israel will come to their senses and implement a Burma campaign to eliminate the muslum vermin from their lands forever.

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago

Quote:”It was not the government they had to fear, but Hindus acting out their rage and resentment”. This is the ONLY way that western governments will be forced to act vs islam and that is by reacting to spontaneous demonstrations of anger, not by the usual SJWs of the left, but by everyman. However there is a problem in the west in that these SJWs are organized into battalions already and will be the first to attack ANY group who dares to disagree with them. I have been to not a few initially peaceful demonstrations many with old people and young families & children participating and the SJWs do NOT care who they hurt and yet the police only arrested US when some of us retaliated to the SJW violence. Now most oldies and young families avoid such demonstrations for fear of the violence from the left. This is WHY it will be impossible for there to be any emergence of general hostility towards islam in the west as the traitors there will be the FIRST enemies. Add to this the brainwashing of the average couch potato and his failure to even be aware of a problem and we are doomed. My only foreseeable joy will be when sharia comes , in watching the left buckle under and submit to greater violence as that is ONLY what will work vs islam and the Left.

harbidoll
harbidoll
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

total humiliation also works

Dagonet
Dagonet
6 years ago

We need to drain the media swamp world wide if we want to more effectively fight/defeat pisslam.

DavidMacko
DavidMacko
6 years ago

Perhaps the Hindus have the best solution to the Moslem problem.

Alleged-Comment
Alleged-Comment
6 years ago

Anyone who knows Moslem history, stories and even lately, videos know that these people are DEMONS. And will slaughter you in DEMONIC fashion.

They do not care about how you feel, they have no compassion for you. They are WILD MEN. You heard of WILD BEAST that will tear you apart. You understand this, but how come you never can understand of WILD MEN that do the same?

Bikinis not BurkasD
Bikinis not Burkas
6 years ago

Quran (48:29)
Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves” Islam is ((NOT)) about treating everyone equally.

Buck
Buck
6 years ago

Where ever Muslims are they try to destroy those not like them selves and often destroy those of their own kind. The are a deamon cult and need to be treated as such so many mad dogs. Buck a Christian 100% disabled Vietnam veteran ??⚔?? right wing republican life time member NRA and friend to Israel

LeslieFish
LeslieFish
6 years ago

Somehow, I doubt that those Hindus who take street-vengeance on the Muslims are all “uneducated rural laborers”, any more than the people who unloaded the tea-ship into Boston Harbor were really local Iroquois Indians. I note that other Asian countries likewise manage to keep the Muslims under control. If you see any “Care” petitions trying to raise money or petitions for the poor-poor Rohinyas, don’t give them a keystroke; they’re Muslims who came into Burma after the Bangladesh famine, and tried to take over. The Buddhist population, led by Buddhist monks if you please, uprose and drove them out of most of Myanmar province, and are trying to drive all of them back to Bandladesh. And as for China, Muslims are not allowed to immigrate there; any who try to sneak across the border somehow quietly vanish.

Philosophy
Philosophy
6 years ago
Reply to  LeslieFish

Muslim have their own Islamic Nation, Pakistan and all Arabs countries, they think that Islam is superior religion, then they should go to non-Islamic Nation? What causes them to immigrate?

reyol
reyol
6 years ago
Reply to  Philosophy

Mohammedans emigrate because Mohammad emigrated and Sharia is a miserable way of life. Much as troops are kept miserable on a landing craft so that they will be eager to take a defended beach, Mohammedans are kept miserable so that they will be eager to emigrate or engage in jihad. Also, they have the mentality of thieves who believe that when they steal from you, they are actually taking back what you somehow took from them.

mark
mark
6 years ago
Reply to  reyol

muslims migrate FOR JIHAD

Peter Leigh
Peter Leigh
6 years ago

I was under the impression that the Muslims were promised their own state because they agreed to fight the Japanese invaders, whereas the Hindus/Ghandi refused to do so.

every
every
6 years ago

Muslims believe that ONLY Muslims should inhabit the world. ANY and all kinds of violence, rape, torture is permissible. In 1971 Muslims murdered 2.4 MILLION Hindus and raped 200,000 women. And this was after more violence that caused 2 parts of India to be sectioned off—–just for Muslims. The countries of Pakistan and East Pakistan (now called Bangladesh). They do not tolerate non-Muslims anywhere.

Stefanie Daniella
Stefanie Daniella
6 years ago

so Gandhi’s peace was Islamic, much like Muhammad’s ‘false-peace’ of Huddaybiyah* … an entrenched kind of ‘false peace’ with a permanent genocidal foundation (peace when Kafirs** are all killed)
as it is now promoted in modern times of 20th & 21st Century

*meccans were tricked into a false peace treaty before all being massacred

**all/any non-muslims

Merlinever
Merlinever
6 years ago

“third, and most important, if Indian Muslims are not as involved quite
as much in terrorism as are Muslims elsewhere, it’s only because they
know that the Hindus in India have repeatedly shown that they are ready
to retaliate with ferocity. There’s a lesson in that third point for the
West, but it’s not one that, given its present course of appeasement,
it’s likely to learn.”
I have been suggesting this in my writings for years now; instead of just waiting around shaking in our boots for the next Islamic terrorist attack and doing what we can to prepare for it, we should be going out and finding these terrorists and killing them to the last one. Then go after their families the same way. We need to show the same complete disregard for their lives as they so readily show for ours; it’s long past time that we started fighting fire with fire.

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Philosophy
Philosophy
6 years ago
Reply to  Merlinever

Islam is terrorism. Jihad is spread of terrorism in the name of Allah.

In India Islamic terrorism is state sponsored terrorism. To understand stated protected terrorism, you need to understand life and mission of Gandhi…I am enclosing here his one important political statement,….not spiritual but purely political…
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Integrity
Integrity
6 years ago

Muslims have to fight because they cannot win in a debate with the truth. If you have nothing to reason with, then you fight.

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