Muslim Historian: Jews Killed and Tortured Thousands of Germans in ‘Counter Holocaust’

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Islamic antisemitism – always taking hatred and genocidal rhetoric to a whole new low.

WATCH: Egyptian Historian Unhinged – Jews Killed and Tortured Thousands of Germans in ‘Counter Holocaust’

TEL AVIV – An Egyptian historian wildly claimed that the Jews perpetrated a “counter Holocaust” in which Germans were captured, put in camps, tortured and killed.

by Deborah Danan, Breitbart, January 28, 2018:

Egyptologist Bassam El Shammaa, in an interview aired on Egyptian television last month, outlandishly claimed that the death of six million Jews was “disputable” since “at the time, there weren’t six million Jews in the world.”

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“Because of those six million who were burned in the Holocaust, (the Jews say:) ‘Help us! Hitler burned us,’” El Shammaa said, according to a translation by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).

El Shammaa continued, “The Jews claim that Hitler and the Nazis burned six million of them and put them in camps.”

“They send you to visit there, in Germany, and you see the burnt bones and all that. First of all, the figure of six million is under dispute. This is a very large figure. At the time, there weren’t six million Jews in the world. So this figure is disputed among historians,” he said.

El Shammaa then went on to say that it was a little known “fact” that after the Holocaust ended, Jews took revenge by carrying out another Holocaust against the Germans.

“The Holocaust was the burning of the Jews by the Nazis, and the Jews have been playing this card, inflating the figures, and so on. This is well known. After the Nazis and Hitler were defeated – I’m telling it in a way that will be easy to understand – the tables were turned,” he said.

“The Jews in Europe captured the Germans, put them in camps, and started to kill them. 60,000 to 80,000 Germans were killed, and two or three million Germans were persecuted and tortured by the Jews. But nobody talks about this counter Holocaust,” El Shammaa said.

 

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin el Husseini, reviewing the Bosnian Muslim Nazi SS Division Handzar in November, 1943 in Neuhammer, Germany with SS Brigadefuehrer und Generalmajor der Waffen SS Karl-Gustav Sauberzweig, right, the commander of the division.

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Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago

How the world has changed when hate speech based upon absolute lies(I have talked with KL survivors and the SS) can even be believed by millennials and other brainwashed leftist idiots. I wonder just how leftist Jews feel about this little piece of nonsense from the sham historian. I had hoped that Egypt would be a beacon of hope WRT islam but it looks tlike the muslim brotherhood has its claws in too deep. I wonder if stopping western subsidies would change their mind as clearly appeasement (by helping them) clearly does not work.

TDD
TD
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

Louis Farra-cunt also believes those lies.
The gov’t of Iran and Syria.
But the media keeps saying these guys are compatible with western society.

Thomas Faddis
Thomas Faddis
6 years ago

I’d like to clarify goebells quote: it’s Not just ‘tell a big enough lie and repeat it often enough and it will be believed’…it also should be the type of lie your particular audience WANTS to be true!!!

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  Thomas Faddis

Thomas: Yes. Goebbels said it many ways. Some of his relevant quotes:
“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.”
– “This is the secret of propaganda: Those who are to be persuaded by it should be completely immersed in the ideas of the propaganda, without ever noticing that they are being immersed in it.”
– “Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their own free will.”
– “That propaganda is good which leads to success, and that is bad which fails to achieve the desired result. It is not propaganda’s task to be intelligent, its task is to lead to success.”
– “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion.”
– “A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth.”
– “If you tell the same lie enough times, people will believe it; and the bigger the lie, the better.”
– “Not every item of news should be published. Rather, those who control news policies must endeavor to make every item of news serve a certain purpose.”
~ Joseph Goebbels
http://www.azquotes.com/author/5626-Joseph_Goebbels

Hoppla
Hoppla
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

They called him the little Jew lawyer behind his back.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  Hoppla

Hitler made the same comments
– about the value of “the big lie”

Hoppla
Hoppla
6 years ago
Reply to  Thomas Faddis

Which lie is a lie ? If you believe something strong enough it becomes the truth for you. Both parties have repeated their strong believes for seventy plus years and the numbers are rising.

Thomas Faddis
Thomas Faddis
6 years ago
Reply to  Hoppla

You need a dictionary, apparently!

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

The absence of evidence
– is the evidence of poor scholarship
– the holocaust was subject massive research
– what’s this guy got?
– speculation and innuendo?

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

What does this thing possess? What is excused as a “mind”, as moslems really don’t have one.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

The use of logic
– mainly comes from Talmudic traditions
– and the Greeks
– Persians and Arabs don’t fully understand or use logic
– you can see this in their writings, ancient and modern
– and in everyday modern discourse

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Logic, when applied to islam, makes it look particularly stupid, to believe the qur’an, muslims have to deny the truth, accepting lies of unimaginable proportions.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

I’ve wondered if the Talmud wasn’t influenced by Hellenistic thought as it post-dates Alexander’s conquest of the Mid-East and seems to use the Socratic Method.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

Abraham used logic quite well

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

But the Talmud seems to sometimes be using the Socratic Method to arrive at its conclusions — unlike anything in the Tanakh.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

Yes, good point
– but the Tanakh is mainly a narration of what happened
– the Talmud is mainly about what relates to what
– and why things happened
– that requires the hypothetico-deductive reasoning process
– not clear who ‘discovered’ logic
– but Israelites and Greeks were the firs to use it extensively
– [I am NOT an expert in Judaism or Christianity]

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Dorrie:
– the failure to concentrate reasoning around logic
– is one of the main failures of Arabic and Persian cultures
– impossible to build successful civilizations without it

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

– Never able to build and maintain civilizations
– empires constantly collapsed for thousands of years
– and almost all Islamic progress came from importing Judaeo-Christian tech
– illiteracy is still very high in Muslim countries
– and successful civilizations need reading and reasoning skills

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago

Muslims are pathological liars, This guy is just proving it.

Trump was initially fooled by Taqiya from Abbas – the jihadi fraud. but once he realised he was conned, boy was Trump furious as hell http://bit.ly/2rOmfyJ

That is when Trump realised how stupid it was to fund and support this jihadi scum.

NotTheMama
NotTheMama
6 years ago

Nothing new here. Just making s**t up.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

This reminds me of the Turkish muslum I once knew who excused the Armenian Genocide as a defensive reaction by the Turks to the depredations of the Armenians. I don’t know to this day if he was lying or if that was the official history taught by Turks to their people.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago

The official turkey thing history is .. Never happened!

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

True enough. Maybe the Turkish muslum monkey figured that lie wouldn’t work on me.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago

Why do you insist upon denigrating monkeys? They (moslems) are not monkeys. They are the descendant of the cross-breeding of monkeys WITH pigs.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

Yes I’m sure the Japanese Snow Monkeys don’t appreciate it. I’ll them pig-monkeys from now on.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago

Depends on the breed of moslem. Many resemble the monkey pig strain.

Voytek Gagalka
Voytek Gagalka
6 years ago

He must have had include those many Germans troops which were indeed destroyed in Soviet prison camps (and mines) of Siberia after the end of the WWII, as they truly by justice deserved. But what in hell that has anything to do with patent lie of so called “counter holocaust”? And this Mohammedan (El Shammaa) claims to be “historian”? Yea, Mohammedans are never guilty of my crime they commit against non-Muslims: only non-Muslims could be guilty. Quite similarly, Nazis never considered themselves as guilty: always Joooos were guilty! Indeed, Nazis borrowed much of their ideology (particularly antisemitism) directly from Mohammed. One could not find the biggest ardent supporters of Hitler’s “heritage” between any other people than Mohammedans today.

CrustyB
CrustyB
6 years ago

I remember that, when Hiram Hitler marched in Licthenstein and deported billions of Germans to Tel Aviv to be subjected to the dreaded dreidel torture.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  CrustyB

Dreidel, dreidel. I made it out of clay. And when it’s dry and ready, a-dreidel I will play (exact lyrics, in English, vary by region). Krauts make the best clay.

poetcomic1
poetcomic1
6 years ago

I would recommend the grossly under-rated movie ‘Sunshine’ about a Jewish family from the halycon days of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire when Jews actually had their own passports as a people (first time in history) through the Holocaust and finally the Stalinist plan to put Jewish survivors in charge of Nazi prisoners. Yes, there is truth to that and it is infinitely to the credit of the Jewish people that they quickly sickened of revenge. See the movie, it is beautiful. It is worth it to see Ralph Fiennes as the Jewish hero. The famous Istvan Szabo directed.

Jimbo
Jimbo
6 years ago

Nothing too low for these brown monsters.

R. Arandas
R. Arandas
6 years ago

No wonder so many of these monsters allied themselves with the Axis cause during the war. Old allegiances die hard, it seems.

Nor is it surprising that an Egyptian Muslim would have said such things. Although their country is technically at “peace” with Israel, 95% of Egyptians still view Jews unfavorably:
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Poll-90-percent-of-ME-views-Jews-unfavorably

santashandler
santashandler
6 years ago

“60,000 to 80,000 Germans were killed.” Really. Does he cite any source where he got that info? No. Because that’s what muslims do. Make the claim. Evidence be damned.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

Lying is permitted in three circumstances : Which are so open and subject to interpretation, always in favour of islam when muslims are looking for an excuse to lie.

• When a person mediates between two disputing parties in order to reconcile between them, if reconciliation cannot be achieved in any other way.

• When a man’s speaking to his wife, or a woman speaking to her husband, with regard to matters that will strengthen the ties of love between them, even if that is accompanied by exaggeration.

• lying to enemies at times of war.

Hadiths regarding lying :

Um Kalthoom (may Allaah be pleased with her) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “He is not a liar who reconciles between people and conveys something good or says something good.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 2495).

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Lying is not permitted except in three cases: a man’s speaking to his wife to make her happy; lying at times of war; and lying in order to reconcile between people.’” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 1862; he said: it is a hasan hadeeth. See also Saheeh Muslim, 4717).

Ibn Shihaab – one of the narrators of the hadeeth – said: I did not hear of any concession being granted concerning anything that people call lies except in three cases: War, reconciling among people, and what a man says to his wife or a woman says to her husband.

Imam Ahmad (26731) narrated that Umm Kalthoom bint ‘Uqbah said: I never heard the Messenger of Allah grant a concession allowing any kind of lying except in three cases: a man who says something intending thereby to bring about reconciliation; a man who says something at the time of war; and a man talking to his wife or a woman talking to her husband. (Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in as-Saheehah, 545)

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

That second islamic excuse to lie is hilarious because we all know true love is based on mutual dishonesty and distrust.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

Absolutely, nothing works better in any relationship, between people or nations, then to be lied to, later finding out about the lie and having to use more lies to cover the original. That is why islam is so successful, that and murdering anyone who accuses them of lying or telling the truth.

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

The Clinton marriage has lasted more than 40 years and if they’re not a pair of pathological liars I don’t know who is.

Jane Dowe
Jane Dowe
6 years ago

Ignorant, hateful, lying and just plain full of $#it! It amazes me how much garbage uneducated muzz-Zzzies spew!

SNOWDIN
SNOWDIN
6 years ago

The Poles and other Europeans and not the Jews killed millions of innocent Germans after the surrender. There were not enough healthy Jews in Europe at the time to do anything and the ones that were around were physically incapable of doing anything.

Hoppla
Hoppla
6 years ago
Reply to  SNOWDIN

US Army had Jews, many who spoke German. Red Army had their Commissars which kept the troops in line according with the communist system, those Commissars were predominantly Jewish and known as the most brutal and not just against the Germans but also against their regular Russian Soldier. After the War many Germans have been murdered in their sleep by US and Soviet Jews. This is well documented.

Alex
Alex
6 years ago

In the future history, if Western civilization survives, Hitler will be mentioned as an episode in the century long saga of Muslim attempted genocide of Jews, Europeans and Afrikaans. The survival of Judeo-Christian civilization hinges on the decisiveness of Atlas to use overwhelming power against Muslims when he Shrugs.

az
az
6 years ago

Muslims are liars. Don’t make liars great again.

andrewo
andrewo
6 years ago

Just look at the head gear of the soldiers. I might venture to say we have a knock off in America, looks so clear to be the members of the “Sudan” Temple. why Sudan if it isn’t Islam? Why wear the crimson “blood hats” if not meant to bleed. Whats the secret?

Hoppla
Hoppla
6 years ago
Reply to  andrewo

Shriners wear the hats too. ” Shriners Hospitals for Children ” We are good people.

JGray1
JGray1
6 years ago

hahaha. if only that were true.

Dagonet
Dagonet
6 years ago

Oh yeah, pisslamists speaking out against Israel (or anything), what’s not to trust?
“Counter Holocaust”, if so, why the F- would pisslamists care? If you want to F- with Israel, go ahead, don’t F-ing hide behind your sick brainwashed women and children when the IDF fights back.

mezcukor
mezcukor
6 years ago

such a liar

leonore35
leonore35
6 years ago

As Germany was under the military occupation by the Allies, US, GB, France and USSR for several years after 1944
How could that happen? This fool seems to have zero knowledge of post war history. A couple of my relatives were civil servants in the administration, so I know that for fact.

David Glynn
David Glynn
6 years ago

So now it’s all clear!
The Jews bullied the SS and all these years we’v been told a lie.
WoW!!!
Takia!!! Never trust a muzrat!

IzlamDownpressesHumanity
IzlamDownpressesHumanity
6 years ago

Nothing says insanity like being a muslum!

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