Gays Should STOP Defending Islam

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As we are at the beginning of a new year, we can tell that homosexuality will keep being a controversial topic in the world. We see that more and more Western nations decide to legalize same-sex marriage, but we also see that gay rights is still a part of protests, a part of “intersectionality” in the West – in America. We even see that homosexuals and advocates find themselves in the same ranks as Muslims.

We all hopefully know that the Islamic world is by far the worst when it comes to homosexuality. In multiple predominantly Muslim countries, homosexuality can be punished with death, in the majority of predominantly Muslim countries it is forbidden to practice or to publicly defend homosexuality. I was part of the Muslim community for more than 20 years, and I can barely remember anyone who had no problem with homosexuality, let alone supporting it. What is funny, however, is that people in the West who are seemingly so concerned about social justice, gender equality, freedom and gay rights, totally ignore the oppression of homosexuals in the Islamic world, call others racist when they mention it, gang up as confused intersectional activists and protect the idea that is the most dangerous when it comes to women and homosexuals: Islam. I will not pretend that all homosexuals defend Islam. I have seen many homosexuals who were openly against Islam for obvious reasons, but there are too many, especially if they are influential and lead LGBT support groups, that criticize the West, but support the Islamic world — with silence or deflection.

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Here is why homosexuals, no matter what they think they’re doing, should never defend Islam, and why people who care about the well-being of homosexuals shouldn’t either, if they really care. I care about homosexuals, and can declare myself proudly a defender of homosexuals in the face of the growth of Islam.

  1. How Islam as a religion views homosexuals

Islam views homosexuality as crime – against God. It pictures homosexuality as a horrible act, immoral, so much that Allah once sent down a major punishment for it. It is based on the biblical story of Lot (Arabic: Lut). The difference is that the Quran dumbs the story down and puts the emphasis on homosexual activity, multiple times, that Lot is considered a holy prophet and that the aftermath with his daughters and his drunkenness is not mentioned, because prophets are perfect in Islam.

In the story, the people of Sodom and Gomorrah commit sexual sins, two angels disguised as handsome boys come to visit Lot, the people go crazy and come to Lot’s house because they are “interested” in the handsome boys, Lot refuses and offers his daughters to them. Afterwards Lot leaves the cities at night, the cities are punished and destroyed by Allah, together with Lot’s impure wife, and that’s where the story ends. The Quran repeats the story multiple times and explicitly mentions that the people have committed homosexual intercourse, which Allah “justly” punished with death.

Muslims usually make the defense that homosexuality alone is not punishable, that homosexual activity is. That’s partially correct, but that’s also exactly the point. Homosexual activity deserves, according to Islam, violent punishments. In Sunni Islam this punishment can be harsh beatings, followed by the death penalty if repeated, it can also be that the homosexual person is imprisoned until death, in some views the punishment is to kill them by throwing them off a high building. No matter what, the punishment is eventually death for people who commit homosexual intercourse repeatedly, and the consensus is that homosexuality should be dealt with death in order to prevent it from spreading and being downplayed.

In Quran 4:16, Allah tells Muslims to punish them if two men commit unlawful sex, they should be punished. [1] Interpretations by universally accepted scholars such as Ibn Kathir, say that this includes gay sex. [2] It is even further explained in hadiths. Mohammed says that men who are caught having gay sex should be killed. [3] In more detailed hadiths he says they should be stoned to death. [4] The same thing is mentioned in other hadiths from other sources. [5] Mohammed even says that you should turn men out of your houses if they behave like women. [6]

The Western person may say that these are just words in a holy book, but for the Muslim it’s quite different. These rules are not just rules that were applied in the 7th century. Let’s not forget one important thing: Whenever you see a Muslim and ask him about whether Islam is still the same as in Muhammad’s time, they will proudly tell you that Islam never changes and it is the same now as back then. That’s one of the main rules in Islam: It rules in the same way forever, because the Quran says so and it can’t be changed. So if Islam is there, then so are the rulings on homosexuals. They don’t disappear just because you want to feel like victims, together against Trump.

  1. How Muslims view homosexuals

Many apologists in the West will tell you that the majority of Muslims are just like us. By “like us” they mean people in Germany or America or the UK. They don’t want to talk about statistics. They don’t want to hear your saying that most Muslims harshly disapprove of accepting homosexuals. They don’t want you to speak out the fact that Muslims majorly want to criminalize homosexuality. Before I begin, I want to point out that Muslims in America are among the least religious Muslims, and that they are compared to other Muslims much more liberal. For example; Pew research shows us that 52% of Muslims in America are in favor of accepting homosexuals in society. [7] That’s still less than the American general public (63%) and less than Republicans (54%), even though left leaning self-haters will tell you otherwise, but it is by far better than in the Islamic World. [8]  However, even though you might think that Muslims are totally fine with homosexuality if you live in America, the truth proves you wrong.

Let’s see some numbers of the Islamic world. Thanks to Pew Research, we can have quickly an idea of what Muslims think. In the first graphic, we see the opinion of Muslims on specific moral questions. As you can see, the vast majority strictly disapproves of homosexuality:

[9]

In the second graphic, it is illustrated even better, and you can see that there are only 3 countries among those surveyed, where 10% of Muslims or slightly more say that homosexuality is morally acceptable. Those countries are Bangladesh, Uganda and Mozambique.

[10]

If we come closer to home, we can see some numbers in the West:

A Gallup study from 2009 says that none of 0% of 500 interviewed Muslims think that homosexuality is morally acceptable. In Germany it was 19% of Muslims and in France it looks a bit better. 35% found it acceptable. [11]

A Germany a study by WZB Berlin Social Science Center, conducted in 2013 shows that 60% of Muslims reject homosexuals as friends, while only 10% of Christians gave the same response. See how Christians are “just as bad as Muslims”? Unsurprisingly 45% of Muslims also said that Jews can’t be trusted, 65% said that religious laws are more important than local secular laws and 54% said that the West tries to destroy Islam. Why they live in Germany is a mystery. [12]

A study, conducted by ICM 2016, shows that 52% of Muslims in Britain say homosexuality should be illegal. Only 18% say it should be legal. 30% don’t have an opinion. [13] Every other Muslim in Britain wants to ban and prosecute homosexuality. Can you believe that? We’re talking about a country where Ex-Muslims were condemned by Pride for Islamophobia during the Pride walk. [14]

The opinion of Muslims in the US is by far better as you see, but that’s just the USA. Don’t let it fool you. It’s not just radical Muslims in very backward countries that have such opinions. The majority holds the same view in Western countries, and these numbers prove it. Yet we are told that concerns are just based on partisanship and on an irrational fear: Islamophobia.

  1. Homosexuality in the Islamic world (Compared to the West)

We don’t even have to research much. The UN talked long about LGBT rights in UN countries. In 2008 57 countries signed a statement that opposes LGBT rights. Almost all of them are predominantly Muslim countries, that find their signature on the same statement that North Korea signed. Only 2 Muslim majority or plurality countries supported LGBT rights, while the entire Western World along with South America and several other countries supported it. [15] [16]

If we just have a closer look at those Muslim majority countries, we can see that homosexuality is illegal in almost all Muslim majority countries, in others it is either illegal to propagate it or it is systematically cracked down on. In Turkey for example the LGBT pride parades were cancelled, forbidden or attacked by authorities for multiple reasons, such as disturbing the peace or not being suitable for the public morality. [17] [18] [19] [20]

In 10 countries, homosexuals can be punished to death by either local jurisdictions or federal laws. Those countries are Yemen, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Mauritania, Qatar, Somalia, Sudan, the UAE (Dubai) and Nigeria. The case of Nigeria is very interesting, considering that those who are afraid of “Islamophobia” always want to bring up Christians when Islam is mentioned. Nigeria is split into Northern (Islamic) Nigeria and Southern (Mixed-Majority Christian) Nigeria. The death penalty for homosexuality exists only in its northern Islamic states. Again in the case of Sudan and South Sudan – both separate countries now – homosexuality can be punished with death in Islamic Sudan but not in Christian South Sudan. It’s important to point out that this is about countries where homosexuality CAN be punished with death. In the UAE for example there is no knowledge of the punishment ever being executed, but the ability is there and it is intimidating. [21]

There is so much more that can be said about this very specific topic, but I’ll just stop it here. There are so many more numbers, numerous statistics that can be given, such as that Muslims were in 2006 responsible for ¼ of crimes against homosexuals in Britain despite being less than 5% of the population, but I will just stop it here.

Conclusion

Just by reading this through, just by looking at the impartial sources below or just by dedicating 10 minutes of your time, you can find out that Islam, the Islamic world and the Muslim community are by far the worst when it comes to homosexuality. That is especially true today. We see that the Islamic world is the worst in how it treats homosexuals. We see that Muslims everywhere around the world hate homosexuals, and we see that Muslims in the West are not much better, even though many in the West tell you that people in Islamic countries are just not educated enough. The idea that Muslims will be totally peaceful and “just like you”, when they go to school in Europe, is wrong, and multiple statistics easily prove that. I saw it myself when I grew up in Germany. I was just as homophobic and anti-semitic as the majority of Muslims in Britain. It didn’t just go away because I was in Germany, I made it go away when I renounced my Islamic faith, because my Islamic faith was the one that ORDERED me to hate. The same religion tells the Muslim world to hate, and the vast majority of the Muslim community obeys, as you can see.

So why would any sane homosexual person or any sane advocate attempt to stand up for Islam or the Islamic world? I would answer that question with 3 words: Partisanship, ignorance and naivety. Partisanship because many people just align with Muslims as part of “intersectionality,” among minorities against “the oppressor” whose oppression consists of not allowing you to implement sharia law. Ignorance because many of them don’t know what Muslims actually believe, they don’t know how Islam is different and they don’t know about statistics, because statistics are racist. Naivety because they honestly think that any “minority” is just like them. They believe that they could turn a cannibal from an untouched tribe into their friendly American neighbor after talking to them for 2 hours. You can see how that works for the UK, with 52% of Muslims wanting to ban homosexuality. Whatever the reason, it is counterproductive.

It is not only irrational but it also puts people in danger. By ignoring the danger that Islam and its adherents spread, self-loathing Westerners put homosexuals, women, Jews, Christians and the West in danger. By staying silent you won’t solve the problem. You will close your eyes and cover your ears, but the crash will happen anyway, if you don’t do anything against it. If there are problems in society — and the majority of Muslims wanting to persecute homosexuals is a big one — then those problems need to be talked about. They need to be solved. How are we supposed to fix problems in society? How are we supposed to fix a system if we are not allowed to talk about them because that offends someone? How are we supposed to stop rape if we are not allowed to talk about the rapist due to his ethnic or religious background? We can’t. So, stop defending Islam. If you see problems, criticize them and help to solve them. If you don’t want to solve them (because no one has to) then don’t try to stop and shut down those who want to solve the problem. That won’t make you a hero. It will make you an obstacle. Don’t be an obstacle in the fight to preserve our rights. Stop defending Islam!

Ridvan “Rico” Aydemir

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Sources:

[1] http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=4&verse=16

[2] http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=698&Itemid=59

[3] http://quranx.com/Hadith/AbuDawud/USC-MSA/Book-38/Hadith-4447/

[4] http://quranx.com/Hadith/AbuDawud/USC-MSA/Book-38/Hadith-4448/

[5] https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/17/40

[6] https://muflihun.com/bukhari/72/774

[7] http://www.pewforum.org/2017/07/26/political-and-social-views/

[8] http://www.people-press.org/2017/10/05/5-homosexuality-gender-and-religion/

[9] http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

[10] http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-morality/

[11] https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality

[12] https://www.wzb.eu/sites/default/files/u6/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf

[13] https://www.icmunlimited.com/polls/icm-muslims-survey-for-channel-4/

[14] http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/07/17/pride-in-london-condemns-islamophobia-in-allah-is-gay-row/

[15] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-un-homosexuality/u-n-divided-over-gay-rights-declaration-idUSTRE4BH7EW20081218

[16] http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/06/17/un-passes-gay-rights-resolution/

[17] https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-turkey-rights-pride/turkish-police-use-water-cannon-to-disperse-gay-pride-parade-idUKKCN0P80P420150628

[18] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/27/turkey-police-fire-rubber-bullets-at-banned-gay-pride-parade/

[19] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/25/turkish-police-break-up-gay-pride-protest-in-istanbul

[20] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam#/media/File:World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg

[21] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/13/here-are-the-10-countries-where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death-2/?utm_term=.00d59b1768b9

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Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

There are so many things wrong with islam, that anyone with a single brain cell can see it, logically if they were capable of thought, avoid islam like the disease it is.

OverIt
OverIt
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Excellent summary. And so described, it defies logic that the throwees would be defending the rights of the throwers.

Kalambong Kalambong
Kalambong Kalambong
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

The Swedes want to commit suicide.
The Germans want to commit suicide.
The French want to commit suicide.
The Britainistanis also want to commit suicide.

Why can’t the gays?

If they want to commit suicide by having somebody else throw them off a rooftop, why should we stop them?

Julia
Julia
6 years ago

Some of us are quietly militant, but have trouble talking about it to our latte-sipping neighbours, who’ve forgotten true Enlightenment values for the cause -of -the -week political correctness.

Mike Wolff
Mike Wolff
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

So correct, Julia. The point liberals don’t get (or refuse to admit) is that the Enlightenment with all the advances in the arts, science and literature never reached the Muslim world because Islam is trapped forever in the 7th century, unchanged and unchangeable.

mztore
mztore
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

Makes me glad I don’t know my neighbors except to wave at some as we pass each other on the road.

CreoleGumbo
CreoleGumbo
6 years ago

Good point KK.

robert v g
robert v g
6 years ago

Best reply.

Thorsten
Thorsten
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Islamphobia doesn’t kill

Muslims ‘kill’ https://quran.com/4/89 https://quran.com/9/5 https://quran.com/8/17
… and for homosexuals, ‘people of Lut … rain [of stones]’ https://quran.com/7/80-84

Keith
Keith
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

I think most people can see it but they are so brainwashed by the liberal left progressives that they honestly believe it is racist, bigoted hatred to talk mention it so they do their best to ignore it.

R. Arandas
R. Arandas
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Yes, even simple terms like “Islamophobia” help to slowly undermine the principles of Western democracy in many subtle but profound ways.

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  R. Arandas

So does the use of such propaganda terms as “homophobia” and “transphobia.” Those too are meant to silence any opposition in the same way “Islamophobia” is.

mztore
mztore
6 years ago

All of the “phobias” that have recently appeared, were NOT REAL WORDS until these past few years.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  R. Arandas

Islamophobia, “a word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons.” It is a deliberately created neologism designed to shield muslums and islum from criticism.

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Just as “homophobia” as a term was designed to shield LGBTQ+XYZ’s from criticism.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Islum will be the buzz saw that brings a bloody reality check into their rainbow fairy tale world.

Janet
Janet
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

These idiots obviously don’t have a clue what Islam does to gays. They really need to smarten up but don’t hold your breath!

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Janet

What can be said or done has been said and done the gay community is fully aware of what is happening, but, continues to support islam. Another instance of sheep discussing the menu with jackals.

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

When that community does acknowledge what is being done to their people under Islam, it is solely to morally equate Islam and Christianity to justify their utter hatred of the latter and especially the Judeo-Christian moral structure.

Trump can't ban islam
Trump can't ban islam
6 years ago

western politicians are bringing MILLIONS of MUSLIM MEN to take charge of western women, due to the number of gays, homos, fags in the west

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

Why have you let islam rot your soul? Why do you accept and promote things like pedophilia, rape, theft, murder, bestiality, necrophilia, mutilation and violence to enforce even the most trivial of rules? Your very soul is being destroyed from within you, for what? To be a member of hell’s eternal population? That is where you are headed.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

All of the questions, that you asked, have the self-same answer. It’s just moslems bein’ moslems.

Julia
Julia
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

I don’t think there are any muslims here. Just a) conservatives, who hate them, or b) liberals, who are really, really teed off at them, and are pretty much sighing, rolling our eyes, and waiting until the stupid cultural war begins, so we can get on with putting all the gangsters and would be Sharia warlords in jail where they belong.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago

There’s an ancient moslem proverb: For children a woman. For pleasure a boy. But, for sheer ecstasy … a melon.

OverIt
OverIt
6 years ago

You forgot: for variation, a goat.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  OverIt

I think that moslem males fellate goats, don’t they?

OverIt
OverIt
6 years ago

Much as nothing would surprise me, in this case there’d be nothing in it for them so I doubt it’s true.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  OverIt

They consider it quite a tasty morsel.

SNOWDIN
SNOWDIN
6 years ago

Their mantra is like NMBLA (National Men Boys Love Association) where over 8 is too late.

kerrianne
kerrianne
6 years ago

I don’t believe it. there are many many gays in mooslem religion too. why should western women breed with mooslem anyway. their culture too different, their religion very different, language barriers, anyways mooslem language and religion and cousins always come first.

Alleged-Comment
Alleged-Comment
6 years ago

Don’t Moslems rape little boys? And what about their donkey ucking? Catholics are known to do the same, not the donkey ucking but with little boys ironically, and many priest are gay.

And these are suppose to be the most earnest and religious of people. But there is one truth about them. They are not the followors of God. This should be obvious.

The God they teach about are of their OWN making. Yahuah never approved of homosexuality. This is sex of the Devil. And those that practice that are WARNED they cannot come under the rule of Yahuah and will be LEFT OUT of his kingdom.

Not found in the book of life you will be cast into a lake of fire never to exist again. POOF! GONE…….

OverIt
OverIt
6 years ago

I think if it’s a sexual emergency – ie no women available to rape – then literally ANYTHING goes. There was a report from the UK about a man caught ucking a metal grating in the road.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  OverIt

What’s the old line … He’d fork a snake if it would hold still and, he’d fork a box of rocks if he thought it had snake in it … I seem to recall hearing that a looooooooooooooong time ago.

Alleged-Comment
Alleged-Comment
6 years ago

Yes, God is merciful. LOL!!

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago

This is really a waste of time as a leftist anything is almost always a brain dead, brainwashed leftist first and foremost. Those few who break the shackles of indoctrination and come to sites like this one are a real minority as it involves willpower, knowledge and the ability to see the big picture.
A muslim anything is a muslim first and foremost. Even the so called “moderates” want sharia law so how they can be called moderate certainly beats me. Again like Leftists, to break free of the indoctrination stranglehold is only possible for a minority as most are just not capable of it and will die as muslims.
In both cases we see the long term effects of carefully orchestrated, childhood indoctrination and it is THIS that is the problem and it will NEVER be solved until we close all madrassas and totally remove the left from education.
Any LGTB member who supports islam is on a suicidal bent and like the leftists, who will be the FIRST to “disappear” under sharia (although most being so gutless will convert), however gays etc. wont be that lucky as their fate will be public and they will star in the new matinees(Saturday afternoon matinees had their origin as mass entertainment in the public hangings a la Tyburn) as per the Koran.

Julia
Julia
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

i’m left wing. I come here. While I’m polite to people of all creed, and not unwarrantly hostile, I think my attitude of “fairness for all” would actually probably get me knifed in a European ghetto. Currently I’m hostile to Islamism but not muslims, but if if the arguement proposed by the right wing is true, then eventually I will find myself in conflict with European Muslims demanding Sharia. Lebanon isn’t a good portent in this regard..

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

” …. hostile to Islamism but not muslims ….” A moslem is a moslem is a moslem .. they are ALL the same.

b.a. freeman
b.a. freeman
6 years ago

usually, yes, but on occasion, muslims are able to escape the cult, especially when raised as “cultural” muslims, without most of the religious context. some even escape after having been fundamentalized! i would say that a defensive attitude is always warranted, but once a muslim proves that he’s an EX-muslim, he’s usually going to be safe.

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  b.a. freeman

An ex-moslem is no longer a moslem. That is, of course, if they actually ARE “ex”. They have decided to become human beings … they’re no longer moslems. Still, far better to tread lightly … hard to really know if they’re “ex” or not.

joanofark06
joanofark06
6 years ago

True enough, because they are taught at a very young age, and by the koran, how to lie, deceive, etc etc…AND it’s acceptable to do, by all muslims….they know this.

joanofark06
joanofark06
6 years ago
Reply to  b.a. freeman

If they are an ex-muslim, and go around proving it, soon that news will get around to the thousands of other dedicated muslims and one, or a group of them, will eventually kill him for leaving islam! I wouldn’t call THAT safe!

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

Islamism is another made up neologism designed to create a false dichotomy. There is no good islum half-wit, it’s all evil, totalitarian and fascist and if you don’t believe me try living anywhere muslums have political power and publicly criticising their damned, dumb, Jew hating, death cult.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

She’s an idiotic half-wit who deserves the muslum boot heel on her neck.

b.a. freeman
b.a. freeman
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

come on, Iz, cut her some slack; we have to remember that the education system in the u.s. has been controlled by hard-core leftists for decades (longer in eurabia). *everybody* who goes into the system usually comes out at least nominally leftist; yelling at people won’t convince them, but reasoning with somebody who simply calls himself liberal (but is able to think for himself) might gain us an awakened ally. we need to convince as many people as possible that their very lives and freedom are in danger, so the hell with politics!

yes, there will be shouters who won’t engage in conversation, but we have to try; when somebody starts spouting bulls**t, we just leave them to their doom and go on to somebody else. we need as many people awake as possible. when i was young, i, too, considered myself liberal, but as time went by, i realized that a lot of the stuff i was hearing was not just slanted (which i expect in all cases), but was actually untrue. my beliefs didn’t change, but my label did; had somebody been insulting me, i would have stopped listening. instead, i woke up to the fact that there were liars on the left, and that the right didn’t consist only of nazis.

finally, although i have been conservative all my adult life (in spite of having mistakenly called myself liberal), i did not understand the vile death cult of islam until just a few years ago. i actually thought that it was “just another religion,” even after 9/11, and in spite of trying to figure it out on my own. i thought that the quran was like the bible, and was the entirety of islamic scripture; i also believed mr. bush, who covered for his genocidal oil buddies in saudi arabia by saying that islam was a “religion of peace.” like most people, i don’t have time to go back to first principles every time i hear a controversial statement; instead, again like most people, i relied (and continue to rely) upon what i have learned so far. at the time, i didn’t realize how deadly the death cult is, so when a cursory investigation of the quran proved fruitless, i gave up and foolishly believed the propaganda. some years ago, i stumbled across theReligionOfPeace dot com and InquiryIntoIslam dot com, and i was finally able to figure islam out. so rather than insulting people, which, given the tendency of the left to hurl unearned epithets, is tempting, let’s try to connect with them. if they’re a**holes, we can just ignore them.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  b.a. freeman

Perhaps you’re right, but the hour is late and time is short.

iprazhm
iprazhm
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

When it comes to pedophilia, homosexuals which are only around 2-3 percent of the population, commit around 30 percent of all child rapes and molestation. They have that in common with muslims.
Homosexuals hate God, as do muslims.
Homosexuals hate Christians, as do muslims.
Homosexuals use all force, short of public execution, to make people who are offended by their practices, participate in their practices. Muslims use all force including public executions to do the same.
Homosexuals receive unconstitutional special government rights and protections at the expense of non-homosexuals. Muslims are successfully using the homosexual strategy, which was stolen from the black race supremacists, to gain the same unconstitutional government protections.
I can clearly understand why these two agents of satan joined hands. But I also understand who will win in the end…the one who doesn’t get thrown from a rooftop.

b.a. freeman
b.a. freeman
6 years ago
Reply to  iprazhm

*excellent* attitude; U’ll need it when pious muslims start getting agitated!

glenbo
glenbo
6 years ago
Reply to  iprazhm

How do you know so much about homosexuals?

iprazhm
iprazhm
6 years ago
Reply to  glenbo

When homofascists began coming out of the closet and trying to force everyone else into one, I started asking questions. Inherently I knew of course it was morally wrong, but then began to uncover the true seedy world in which they exist. The hidden parts, like health risks, depressions, violent behaviors, suicides, and other insane sexual perversions that exist. The fact that almost every single homosexual is the result of childhood molestation themselves, by a family member, a friend of the family or an older child.
The most compelling information was crime statistics. More homosexuals kill homosexuals than are killed by straight people. They are killing each other, and that’s excluding aids and other medical causes. But what moved me to educate others were the crime statistics that revealed one third of all child rapes and molestations were being perpetrated by this tiny group of sexual deviants. Not only was this shocking, it was much cause for alarm and action. It has to be stopped by any means necessary. The first step is educating people to what’s going on behind their backs, and being orchestrated by their own corrupt government.

knowshistory
knowshistory
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

islamism is muslims, and muslims is islamism. you accept one, you get both.

b.a. freeman
b.a. freeman
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

Julia, i’m a born-again christian conservative with libertarian leanings, but i believe that your attitude of “fairness for all” is a good thing. we may have different political beliefs, but we should both be willing to talk politely about them; i’m glad that U aren’t shouting anybody down.

i’m also glad that U understand that there are a *lot* of banlieue in eurabia in which U would get knifed by espousing that belief; that bodes well for your survival should U ever visit that sad continent. your attitude towards muslims is good as well, since the first victims of islam are muslims themselves. however, i would like to warn U about “islamism,” because there is no such thing; there is islam the religion (kinda sorta) and political system, and there are muslims, who may or may not believe or practice all of islam. like any religion, muslims exist on a spectrum of belief. some may be “cultural” muslims who are essentially non-practicing and unbelieving (and are therefore often decent human beings), but there are lots more who truly believe, but have just not heard all its beliefs explained to them. since pious muslims believe that allah’s words are best understood in arabic, large parts of the khutbah (friday sermons at the mosque) and most of the prayers are done in arabic, so that most muslims, who don’t speak arabic, don’t understand what is being said; furthermore, the quran and the sunnah are not readily available to the local muslims in the vernacular, so they can’t go look for themselves. only in the first world can people get easy access to islamic scripture.

thus, once pious muslims and imams explain what islamic scripture teaches, the average muslim must decide either to change his ways and become pious, or to change his ways and ditch islam (secretly, of course, since they usually want to go on living). those who have not been brought up pious, if they have regular contact with non-muslims, may actually be decent people and recognize that islam is a depraved criminal cult, but most have been brought up since birth exposed to the poison of islam; sadly, since most of us never forget the things we learned when very young, those of us who have been infected with the mind disease of islam do not recover, and have a tendency to become pious – and dangerous.

it appears that U may have already read some islamic scripture; if not, i encourage U to look at it for yourself. everybody should educate himself about important issues, rather than just parroting the phrases of those who are thought leaders. i just ask that U keep an open mind, because islam is a poison that threatens civilization itself; if it successfully conquers us, civilization will never recover, and what non-muslims have accomplished will be lost, since studying non-muslims is blasphemy (because it draws attention away from allah). only spain managed to throw off the yoke of islam (and that might be returning), and almost everything that civilizations conquered by islam achieved was lost forever for that reason.

finally, there is a liberal filmmaker whose website and films U may want to see; his name is eric allen bell (ericallenbell.com), and when he tried to wake up his friends and co-workers to the danger of islam, he was shunned, both professionally and personally. i’m as certain that i don’t agree with everything he has to say as i am that i would disagree with much of what U say, but at least none of us wants to kill the others for it. should islam win, there will be no more left or right – or freedom.

b.a. freeman
b.a. freeman
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

wily, i’m *so* glad that U understand islam! U would be amazed (or maybe not) at how many do not, and actually defend it.

Thorsten
Thorsten
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

Leftist(-Liberal) is a mental illness, one cannot explain logically.

SNOWDIN
SNOWDIN
6 years ago

If the gays are that self hating and suicidal than send them all to the middle east to perish.

Malsikcuf
Malsikcuf
6 years ago

Just send the muslim loving gays to an Islamic country.

Lynn D
Lynn D
6 years ago

For all their so called hatred and vilification of gays.. Why is it that a totally Islamic society (Afghanistan) has the only publicly acknowledged and approved pedophilic gay sex in their ‘bacha barzi’ boys???

Julia
Julia
6 years ago

I’m often convinced that the right wing has the insanity of thinking, even for half a moment, that Donald Trump is competant, or that global warming is a fiction. The left wing of course has the insanity of thinking that anything that’s happened in sweden, particularly swedish style political correctness, is a good idea.
So let me put it to you succinctly. Stop trying to socially engineer the US into Handmaid’s tale. Stop obvious conservative attempts to ratchet the culture war to god-knows what dystopian scenario. Stop denying science, which will ultimately create a bigger mess in the 3rd world making them all want to come here.

Then the left will support you. Or , maybe, among sensible people in europe, it does already. After all, when you listen to the flower of swedish progressive feminist schoolteachers going on about how a 9 year old blonde girl is teasing and tittilating immigrant boys into pulling down her panties and threatening her with rape with her unveiled antics, you get sober, pretty fast.

iprazhm
iprazhm
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

The left is the problem 90 percent of the time, in every situation. Left equates with Wrong. True rightwingers did not vote for Trump. There were other more viable options, especially for Christians and especially for constitutionalists.

Annie
Annie
6 years ago

Islam calls for the subjugation or death of all non-Muslims, Christians and Jews.
It calls for the beating and enslavement of women. It calls for killing homosexuals.

That is all evil and wrong. And homosexuals in Western societies should live
discretely and free of harassment and harm. But they should only be allowed
legal civil unions and not marriage. Their sexual behavior should never be
the norm in a society. The LGBTQ force in America has attempted to normalize
and gain everyday acceptance for their various sexual behaviors – and the
result is mentally disturbed Trannies being shoved down America’s throat.
Watch for their presence in the upcoming Olympics next month. Also, it’s
resulted in the feminization of men by leading makeup companies who have
used Caitlyn Jenner or a heavily madeup teenage boy as their “spokeswomen”.
Leading American universities have instituted gender approved pronouns for
people who pretend to be the opposite sex or both sexes in one. ALL of these
things are 100% supported by the LGBTQ movement. The next acceptable
behavior will be Man-Boy love which is pedophilia.

The Muslims are totalitarian and barbaric about non-Muslims, women and
homosexuals. Their ideology should be wiped from the Earth. But everything
I’m saying about normalizing homosexuality in America is true – and it is
disgusting.

Julia
Julia
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Ah, yes, blame-a-transsexual. Cute little cisgender people. You always pick transsexual people because to you we’re seemingly the most “different”. Actually, I’m a very intelligent postop transsexual woman who’s conservative enough, who believes strongly in Enlightenment values. Guess what. Those don’t really agree with Islam. But please keep your prejudices inside the vehicle. And let me guess.. you think Trump is a good idea, and global warming’s a fiction. But, then again, I’m pretty used to being the smart one in the room… been that all my life. *Sigh* give it 20-30 years. Then people will come and ask me how to rebuild the conservative movement after the mess that corporate interests have made out of it.

Little hint – Update Winston Churchill – that’s what I get when I dial home. But stop denying people basic equity until they’ve proven themselves a true threat. I’m really.. not. Actually, strangely enough, I’m on your side.

Now to get the silly people to do something about global warming before the ENTIRE population of MENA decides to immigrate to Europe by whatever means they can.

Annie
Annie
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

Aww – pooor you. You just want to be seen as a non-threatening,
post-op transsexual who’s actually quite conservative in her views –
don’t you? But you see, your prejudicial and narrow self absorption
causes the LGBTQ impact on the emasculating and perverting of
society to completely elude you. And Dearie, how you would ever
think you’d be the smartest person in a room definitely eludes me.

I want to ask you what you think of the many jogging events which
were held last year in which Trans “women” participated. That would
be where male athletes who believe they are women competed with
female athletes who actually are women – and the superior male
muscular strength of the Trannie caused him to win every time.

And BTW – do not refer to me as cisgender. My gender is female.
Period! – which also BTW is something a Trans “woman” will never
experience.

Julia
Julia
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Honestly, I don’t need to be seen as non threatening. I live in a liberal jurisdiction, surrounded by other affirming liberals. I just happen to think that liberals arn’t always right about everything, all the time. The “society is becoming more effeminate so let’s blame transsexuals” bs is an old and tawdry line. The way I see it, we’re 1 in 1000, and it’s the responsibility of cisgender people to run their own affairs. Prejudice? Here we are, with conservatives asking liberals for support in a necessary cultural war against religious fanatics. But, can we avoid saying mean and nasty things about GLBT… ? No.. all the usual prejudices are on display. Personally, I just think it’s a waste of time, and they’res a wider, more important war to fight, so I will merrily say “Yes, I am smarter than you.” and realize that Christian nutcases from the conservative hinterland at least have the decency to talk rather than just be brutes (and this is why they’re worth supporting over Islamists). Personally, I’m a rationalist who believes the culture wars suck, and that most current politics, right and left, are run by fanatics and extremists instead of centrist pragmatists.

Annie
Annie
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

So here we are. A post-op Trans “woman” and a born woman
discussing why I’m prejudiced if I don’t accept Trannies and I blame
them for some of society’s ills. Yet the discussion on your part –
including repeated ad hominem attacks on me – is all about you
personally – and never the big picture. It’s analogous to a Mexican
on a forum for building the Wall and who is pleading for people to
accept all Mexicans who he implores are really good guys and no
real threat to American society.

Even if you have suffered and struggled psychologically and
physically to become a trans “woman” – you will never understand
that “your kind” is being used as a tool by the LGBTQ movement
to promote everyday acceptance of erotic homosexuality. Trying
to normalize beautiful Trannies with plenty of cleavage and male
genitalia under their skirts is testament to that. It is not normal
and can never be achieved without massive artificial intervention.
And the LGBTQ community is itself being used as a tool by Islamists
and Globalists for their agenda to eradicate Western civilization and
White achievements.

I believe if you understood any of that, a Trannie like you – in spite
of your protestations of nationalism – couldn’t care less about it.
So that’s what I too feel about “your kind” – Frankly, Dearie – I don’t
give a damn.

sarah
sarah
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I kind of feel like I’ve read your comments somewhere before. Maybe on Gender Trender? 😉

Annie
Annie
6 years ago
Reply to  sarah

It looks like the only purpose of Gender Trender is to hate – rather
than to offer viewpoints for people to discuss and learn from. I would
rather engage in meaningful discussion even at the risk sometime of
having to fend off insulting accusations. Besides -that website is way
too perverted for me to ever go on it.

BTW – why do you go on it?

sarah
sarah
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Don’t get me wrong – I’m not accusing you of anything. Gender Trender is a TERF zone (Trans-Exclusionary Radical-Feminists). Those women genuinely frighten me sometimes, LOL – and I’m not the type to be easily scared.

I’ve been to GT a few times, there is a section about transgender MtF that includes a number of articles and a lot of very angry comment sections. I was directed there about a year and a half ago by someone, when I made a comment to them regarding MtF transitioning that was almost identical to what you’ve written here.

Its like they took my views on MtF transitioning, removed the compassion that I have and injected those views with a great big dose of very furious, deeply bitter anger and self righteousness. I choose not to judge, because I try to respect everyone’s opinion – as I want respect for my own opinions. But they’re too extreme for me, I must say. I am a blunt, straightforward, no-nonsense woman, but I am not cruel or vindictive.

I seem to share some of your views on this topic, from what I have seen you write so far in this comment section. As for GT being perverted – that’s an interesting way to describe it! Its the home of some incredibly irascible women with hate in their hearts – but perverted? What makes you say that? The only thing I can guess to at this point is that you may be a practicing Christian? Is that why?

Annie
Annie
6 years ago
Reply to  sarah

I never heard of Gender Trender until I read your comment – so I
checked it out before I replied to you. It was what I read about the
woman behind the website – known as Gallus Mag. She seems like
a pervert if ever there was one and I just assumed her proclivities
would be all part of her website’s vision. Worlds and galaxies away
from the vision of a woman like Pamela Geller, I might add.

Please don’t get me wrong either. If it suited my purpose to
always speak out against the twin evils of Islam and Globalism,
I wouldn’t care how down and dirty a site was – I’d be on it. But
Gender Trender is not the vehicle for moving along discussion of
what really matters to me. Believe me, as a former psych nurse –
including a three year stint as an RN in a psychiatric emergency
room as part of an ER in a big medical center – there is no
disturbed behavior or perversion I haven’t come across.

Also Sarah – I am not a Christian and follow no religion. I believe
in God – the Higher Purpose or Higher Consciousness for the
planet Earth.

sarah
sarah
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I’m just glad I didn’t accidentally offend you! 🙂

Gallus Mag- that name, interestingly, is an urban legend. Of a so-called 6 foot tall female bouncer from the 19th century, its New York City lore, as far as I understand it.

I wonder to the Gallus Mag on GT and her alignment with that old lore, why did she pick it? Why does she feel the need to pretend that she is some gigantic, tough woman from an era not known for ‘tough’ women. With your education and career background, you could probably answer that far better than I can. 🙂

Ah OK – cool, thank-you for answering my question regarding religion, you certainly didn’t have to and I really appreciate it. Myself, I’m an Atheist. And yes, I do believe that Pamela Geller has more integrity, intelligence, value to the world and compassion in her little finger, than this Gallus Mag woman has in her entire body.

Although I still say, I wouldn’t like to meet the GT crowd in a dark alley late at night 😉 Some of them are intense!

sarah
sarah
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Well I found a picture of her, when I was trying to find out the story behind Gallus Mag, I knew I’d heard the name before (away from the GT blog) but couldn’t remember the details.

When I found out the folklore history about the original Gallus Mag, I came across a few pro-trans websites, all of whom are sharing outed information about the GT Gallus Mag. A woman by the name of Linda V Shanko. An ex-nurse from Vermont. And here I sat, picturing someone who I figured would be unassuming in reality. Yeah, she looks exactly like what she represents herself as on GT.

http://transadvocate.com/linda-v-shanko-aka-gendertrenders-gallusmag_n_14627.htm

Someone who I wouldn’t want to see lurking in that dark alley at night LOL

Julia
Julia
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

As for “my place in the universe”, and the hoary famous sporting events that get thrown around whenever trans women (but not trans men) come up. Well, the olympic committee passed standards re: requiring hormone use, and intersexed (yes, Annie, intersexed people exist!) people have had some kind of advantage for years, but to be honest, I’m not very physical so I don’t really care. Seems that peak genefemale athletes are doing fine last time I turned on the Olympics, though.

But I’ll let you in a little on my headspace. I’m pagan, a Goddess worshipper, a Valkyrie at heart. I’m , what’s the word, a 3rd phase woman, infertile, innately attuned to female concerns, but not able to have my own children. We’re sort of “drones” in a bee hive, sequenced by our mothers in times of stress to help with rearing the next bunch of children. Our innate headspace places assisting the women around us above everything else. So, yes (dearie), if I happened to find myself in a situation where the usual unpleasantness and cultural enrichment was going on with our friends from MENA, I’d throw my large form bodily in the way to protect the sisters/daughters of my tribe, do that Valkyrie berzerk thing and call it a life well lived. That’s just.. instinct. I can’t explain it any other way. And don’t get started with “oh .. NOES you changed our body”. I’m the gender I am. It’s a form of woman. It’s probably not your form of woman. I’m notably more infertile. And, I suspect, from looking around me at the rest of trans kind, naturally smarter. Scream, howl all you want, but I know my kind..

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

With so many suicidal, how many of “your kind” are still around? Look, as long as you paid for your own transition, hormone treatments, medications, counselling and surgery, pre through post op … I’m all for what you did. It was your decision … your body and your life. I only object to so much as one tax dollar being spent on someone’s transition. If you agree with that last point … then, we’re on the same page and … I wish you a wonderful life.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

LOL, brilliant!

Annie
Annie
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

Could you please try to be more objective – instead of subjectively
rambling on and on about what constitutes the sissygenderism
inside your headspace.

I will now straighten out your convoluted answer regarding the fairness
of pitting muscular male woman-wannabes against real women in a
sporting event – that is, your saying that “inter sexed people have had
some kind of advantage FOR YEARS”. So based on that line of crap –
the unfair advantage of the male trans “woman” is okay?

Inter sexed people are hermaphrodites with both male and female
sex organs and are a miniscule percentage of the human population.
Some don’t even realize it until they attempt to conceive a child. There
are also abnormal male and female sex chromosomes but these NEVER
change the sex of the person. Born males are always male and the
same goes for females. No matter what gender they may want to
assign themselves later in life through artificial interventions like
surgery and hormone injections. Your implication – based on intersexed
people – that it is fair to women to compete with male trans “women”
is, to reiterate, just a line of crap.

I might take you up on your suggestion for me to scream and howl.
It will go perfectly with all that dancing you do around answering a
simple question.

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The LGBT supremacist agenda is as bad for women as Islam is, albeit in different ways. In many states, women have all but lost their rights to privacy, their dignity, boundaries, and personal safety, due to appeasement of demands to rearrange all bathrooms to accommodate a mere 0.3% of the population. And the “leaders” in those states are just as callously indifferent to them as European “leaders” are towards women who were raped by Muslims. Five’ll get ya’ ten the likes of Oprah, Meryl Streep, Katy Perry, Madonna, Ashley Judd et al. (among the Golden Goebbels sheep who wore black at this last weekend’s self-congratulatory “awards”), support this evisceration of such rights of women and the advancement of the idea that “trannies’ ” rights override theirs. That’s not “equality,” that’s definitely supremacism at work.

Larenzo1
Larenzo1
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

You have a mental problem stemming from some abuse or mal-treatment. No matter what you have done surgically it will never change your chromosomes.

Julia
Julia
6 years ago
Reply to  Larenzo1

Hillarious. The “from some abuse or mal-treatment” line. 19th century psychiatry. In a few years we’ll get you caught up with Harry Benjamin. I used to get teased for being effeminate and people thought I was a girl. Strange. The truth is I’m postop and happy with my body, and so I don’t really care what my chromosomes say.

Larenzo1
Larenzo1
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

Sadly you are not concerned with the most troublesome thing. Your mental health No matter what you have hacked off you will just be a surgically mutilated male or female really not sure which you are male or female. But taking this sad course you bring on mental instability for the rest of your life. I hate no one nor do I think anyone should be discriminated against. It is not other people that will cause this but you yourself. I pray you get some good mental health care from a Christian perspective.

joanofark06
joanofark06
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

WWJD…you have fun telling him, that your happy with yourself!

Achmed Mohammedan
Achmed Mohammedan
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

We’ve been addressing global warming and how the most recent studies show that moslems are the cause of ALL global climate change and 100% of weather related disasters. The evidence is weighty and irrefutable. This discussion has been long standing. Where have you been?

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

Constant propaganda and proselytization by LGBT “educators.”

joanofark06
joanofark06
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

Your brain is sooo scrambled, I have NO idea, what all you just said….but then I’m not surprised. It’s your lifestyle that has you confused…in more ways than one.

Larenzo1
Larenzo1
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

You hit it right on the head. Though you will hear them squeal now.

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The only time LGBTQ+XYZ “leadership” acknowledges the atrocities committed against their people in the Muslim world, is to justify their hatred and contempt of Christianity and the Judeo-Christian underpinnings of civilized society, by morally equating Christianity with Islam. But in a way, it figures that they defend Islam – because their own tacticology, and the tenets of their Greenwich Village/San Francisco/Fire Island “values,” are derived in essence if not outright point-by-point specifics from Sharia law and the HAMAS CAIR / Islamic supremacist playbook. LGBT “leadership” is every bit as totalitarian about Christians and others who aren’t like them, as Muslims are about non-Muslims. In Ontario, an openly lesbian politician has now imposed a ruling that any parent that does not bow down to such “values” can have their children taken away from them – clearly anti-Christian as well as anti-family. Using so-called “wrong pronouns” on dysphorics can now land people in jail – shades of Sharia blasphemy laws forbidding criticism of Islam? Fining Christian business for not affirming a lifestyle that is childless and barren – sound much like Islamic jizya? They also seek to seal off any chance of exit from that lifestyle from those who seek to do so, by outlawing so-called “conversion therapy” – in any other situation or under normal circumstances, that would constitute unlawful imprisonment and holding someone against their will. This in particular shows how eerily similar LGBT’s views on homosexuality and transgenderism are in one aspect to the tenets of the Mafia or Islam – that once one enters into it, they’re in for life and can never be allowed to leave. How long will it be, for example, before CAIR and their ilk will be lobbying to outlaw services designed to encourage people to leave Islam safely (i.e. Rifqa Bary)? To the LGBT supremacist “leadership,” leaving the gay lifestyle is as much an act of apostasy as a Muslim leaving Islam, the only thing missing being a death penalty. And just as with Western values vs. Sharia law, anytime there is a conflict between traditional Judeo-Christian values and radical fringe Greenwich Village/San Francisco/Fire Island “values,” it is Judeo-Christian values that should yield and give way.

There has always been a politically (and otherwise) subversive component to homosexuality in history (a rebellion against cultural and social norms rooted in Judeo-Christian heritage), and now with transgenderism – the current push by the Left to spread the latter coming as it is in the face of the current anti-male witch-hunt being ginned up in the wake of recently-publicized cases of sexual misconduct involving prominent people (i.e. Harvey Weinstein, Matt Lauer, Bill O’Reilly, Al Franken, John Conyers). Transgenderism is the ultimate rebellion against G-d and nature, and is heavily promoted by the radical Left as a means to end what they call “white male heterosexual privilege.” They were especially emboldened by Obama who saw the further promotion of homosexuality and, later on in his reign of terror, transgenderism, as a means to smash traditional values, Christianity, and the Judeo-Christian moral compass. Many countries were revulsed by Obama’s efforts to spread the lifestyle to the rest of the world, and there is no evidence that countries such as Uganda, Nigeria and Russia would have even thought of, let alone enacted, laws that the leftist media brands “anti-LGBT” but for the drive by Obama’s ambassadors to further the homosexualization of the said countries’ populaces.

And coming as it is in the face of the increasing Muslim population, and their aforementioned views, what we will be seeing in the coming years is a ticking time bomb. I for one do not look forward in any which way to this coming catastrophe.

Annie
Annie
6 years ago

Wonderful comment. You have written exactly what is trying to take
down America and the rest of the West. Obama is a Globalist (and
also a communist Marxist) – every bit as much as Merkel, Macron
Trudeau, the Pope and all the rest. They are in lockstep with the
(at present) soft tyranny type, unelected bureaucrats of the European
Union. Their aim is a one world, global community collective ruled
over by a cadre of dictatorial elites – who will always spout the mantra
“For the workers – for the common good” Agenda 21 says it all.

These people have allowed Muslims to tyrannize Europe and America,
indeed most of the civilized world. The rape epidemic of women and
children should only be the stuff of a horrible nightmare – not the
daily reality of White Europeans. The bloody murders and assaults by
Muslims has started a seismic shift in how Americans now live. Times
Square in NYC on New Years Eve looked like a war zone – thanks not
to “terrorism” but to MUSLIM TERRORISM. The Globalists – who
control the American and international Fake News Media as much as
Stalin controlled Pravda – have let the LGBTQ movement go full speed
ahead to tyrannize Americans into submitting to the breakdown of – as
you say – our cultural and social norms whose foundation is Judeo-
Christian and White. And we know what the anti-White race situation
is – thanks to evil Obama – and the routine acceptance of cops being
murdered – as a way for him to continue his cool as a cucumber
annihilation of America.

What the globalist swine and the Muslim pigs want above all else is
to kill the American spirit. The spirit that says ‘this is MY life – not
anyone else’s and I will live it anyway I choose’. Not under globalist
dictators they won’t – and not under Sharia Law. Only in a free America.
Stand up for yourself always – as a free person would. As a serf under
a yoke cannot do. It means you are American – and we’re STILL here.

joanofark06
joanofark06
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Hey Annie, can you PLEASE tell me when everyone is done, talking about Obummer….jeez, he’s been gone from office a year now, and everyone still mentions him, like he’s still in office! I get sick when someone says his name! When is he going to be GONE FOREVER??

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Which reminds me: down in lower Manhattan, Arturo di Modica’s “Charging Bull” statue represents what you describe as the individual American spirit. Whereas “Fearless Girl” (deliberately placed next to same) clearly represents statism, forced collectivism, socialism and Communism; the “soft tyranny” of the One World globalist agenda and the yoke of Big Government breathing down everybody’s necks, out to crush the individual American spirit; and also, has “SJW” written all over her in the same way the late master caricaturist Al Hirschfeld used to weave his daughter Nina’s name into the creases, wrinkles, hair strands et al., of most of his drawings of various celebrities and other public figures over the last nearly six decades of his career and life. (And that the latter statue was paid for by a Wall Street firm with “Global” in its name is bad enough.)

joanofark06
joanofark06
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I couldn’t agree with ya more! God said it’s a sin…and I believe it. And it makes me nauseous to see, too! It’ll NEVER look normal to me, and I can’t see how someone could say that it’s normal…it’s like watching a dog, make out with a cat….it’s just NOT normal, or right! The straight people who can say it’s just “love”….I feel their not normal either….of course, I can’t see throwing them off of buildings either, they need some kind of….I have no clue, what can fix them, except turning to God for help. That’s their only solution…or hell when they die. It’s not up to anybody on earth to kill them though…they’ll get their punishment from a higher (or lower) power.

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  joanofark06

There’s the thing. Christianity is “love the sinner, hate the sin,” but even so, LGBTQ+ supremacist “leadership” insists on equating it with Islam.

Larenzo1
Larenzo1
6 years ago

No question homosexual conduct is aberrant and perverse conduct however murdering them is just as perverse and aberrant.

Dagonet
Dagonet
6 years ago

Look at that, what, banner/parade/march/protest photo that’s featured at the beginning of this report. Where did THAT take place, Iran, SA, Afgan, Qatar? Where SHOULD it have taken place?

Joe F.
Joe F.
6 years ago

Great article! It really is baffling that the gay community would support the barbarians. Same with Jewish folks who support open borders and liberal causes, & Hollywood elites. Makes no sense to me that you’d support those who want you at the head of the line waiting to be exterminated. And the way the countries in Europe have totally rolled over to allow themselves to be slowly conquered and lose their entire culture and way of life. Just astounding. Appeasement isn’t the answer. Ask Chamberland how that worked out with Hitler.

RightWay2Truth
RightWay2Truth
6 years ago

Liberalism is fatalistic. The absence of a Christ centered life leads to secular humanistic behavior that ultimately kills!

Julia
Julia
6 years ago
Reply to  RightWay2Truth

IMHO, to survive, the Enlightenment Liberals are going to have to learn to make peace with the christian conservatives. The magic of our culture is that we’re learnt to co-exist and that we don’t live under religious law. That’s why we’re strong, what we have going over well, you know. I don’t need to agree with you to protect our common cultural heritage and your right to worship. Also consider getting Sikhs and Hindus involved..

RightWay2Truth
RightWay2Truth
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

You only exist today because of the Judaeo-Christian values from which this country came from. It is no accident America is as prosperous as it is. This would not be the case had liberalism guided our development. I would argue that liberalism is symptom of successful conservative values that have been ignored. We see our rapid cultural decay today because we lack the cultural discipline from whence we came.

Tm.
Tm.
6 years ago

It is said that you can’t fix stupid. They are right.
Liberals make no sense whatsoever. They have chosen their own undoing, to put it politely.
Excellent summary, by the way.

Tm.
Tm.
6 years ago

Sad that some do not see the forest for the trees. How can they be so blind? How did they lose their senses? Look at that picture, they really don’t have any idea. I am speechless by their dullness, by their inability to comprehend.
Do they read? I daresay they do not. What surprises are in store for them, as they cannot imagine. Utter fools.
If they would but read.

Julia
Julia
6 years ago

I guess what I’m saying is – if you want to convert GLBT, look to someone like Milo Yiannopoulos. Recycling the same old, tired, hacknied conservative platitudes and prejudices about GLBT is going to get you the “oh, noes, they’re mean hater bigots, off to political correctness lessons” B.S. Islam’s greatest weakness is that it’s literally from the 7th century and hates everyone who isn’t it, and is generally violent and stupid in it’s truest form in all concievable ways. Ultimately I’m convinced that it can be exposed as the patriarchial, abusive monstrosity that it is. Migrant rape. Migrant rape. Captives of the right hand. More muslim rape 24/7. Scream pain and denounce them for their evil BS. It’s the only way to get leftists to listen.

Randall Anderson
Randall Anderson
6 years ago
Reply to  Julia

there are plenty of videos on youtube of gays being thrown from rooftops in Muslim countries…also send them http://www.thereligiionofpeace.com and http://www.godofmoralperfection.com

Thorsten
Thorsten
6 years ago

“Gays (lesbians) Should STOP Defending Islam”

… cause they would be stoned to death to allah 40/2
-> ‘… rain [of stones]’ http://quran.com/7/80-84

Julia
Julia
6 years ago
Reply to  Thorsten

It’s funny how a night in a European ghetto changes people’s minds. Political correctness is SO a north american phenomenon, OUTSIDE the affected zones…

SNOWDIN
SNOWDIN
6 years ago

The Trannys are normally confused. They do not know which way is up.

freepetta
freepetta
6 years ago

Islamists would kill gays and feel they did Muslim society and Shariah Law a very big favor.

al Kidya
al Kidya
6 years ago

It was a lesbian girl who worked under me that got me fired. I was warning her about the dangers of Islam and what ISIS was doing to gays in Iraq and Syria during a lunch break. She reported me to my superiors and I was fired for …RACISM.

Randall Anderson
Randall Anderson
6 years ago
Reply to  al Kidya

How stupid are these fools? ISLAM IS NOT A RACE…MUSLIMS ARE NOT A RACE….you should sue …contact ACLJ for help and/or advice.

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago

Homosexuality and transgenderism aren’t races either – yet homo-fascists also scream “RACIST!” to shut down any criticism of their ilk.

b.a. freeman
b.a. freeman
6 years ago
Reply to  al Kidya

yes, al Kidya, in the u.s., that is one of the primary risks of sharing the danger with others. another is lawfare, which is more effective with those who have a following than job loss. i am not socially adept, so i try to feel out the politics of those with whom i work before i discuss politics or religion. OTOH, everybody who works with me knows that i enjoy both. so far, the nazis haven’t whacked me, so i’m either doing the right thing, or very lucky.

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  b.a. freeman

LGBTQ+ supremacists also practice lawfare to the nth degree. Go ask any Christian baker or flower arranger or photographer who was bankrupted and forced out of business because they wouldn’t bow down to the dictates of Greenwich Village/San Francisco/Fire Island “values.” In many cases, gay and lesbian couples have deliberately chosen Christian-owned businesses of those ilks as a means to pursue this lawfare strategy – and thanks to this site, I see eerie similarities to Muslim supremacists’ own lawfare fetish.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  al Kidya

I worked with a lesbian girl who stood up for me and defended me from lies stated about my work effort.

JWM
JWM
6 years ago

It is amazing how people can be interested in suicide by proxy.

Rocinante44
Rocinante44
6 years ago

this is like cattle protesting the eating of chicken

reggiec
reggiec
6 years ago

Members of Western cultural countries who defend or promote Islam are akin to cows promoting a leather tannery.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  reggiec

Or turkeys promoting thanksgiving!

R. Arandas
R. Arandas
6 years ago

Liberalism has brainwashed so MANY people in the West to siding with Islam, how truly sad. 🙁

Stephen Davis
Stephen Davis
6 years ago

The gay community would do well to remember this from 2016 before defending Islam – “More than 50 Muslim countries have come together to ban LGBT groups from attending a United Nations AIDS conference dedicated to ending the global epidemic. The ban was requested in a letter from the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, a group of 57 states including Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.”

http://www.towleroad.com/2016/05/united-nations-aids/

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Davis

You know the uber-leftist mindset – “The enemy of our enemy is our friend.” They never learn.

Randall Anderson
Randall Anderson
6 years ago

Most Gays, like most Dems/Socialists/Communists/Progressives are ignorant on this subject…willfully ignorant, since the truth about Islam’s history, tenets and treatment of Gays is readily available every day via the internet…as a Gay man, I try to educate my friends, in person and on blogs, but they are so stupid and brainwashed by the Dem socialist Party and the collaborating media, they are in such denial, like drug addicts…they will not listen. I think, it will take a few more 9/11 events, on the WEST/LEFT COAST to wake these fools up. It is just a matter of time….

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

When the muslums take over the LGBT community will find out what real persecution is allah about.

CrustyB
CrustyB
6 years ago

If liberals could get over the myth that holding non-white people accountable for their actions, culture and crimes is “racist” then this would all disappear.

Stephen Honig
Stephen Honig
6 years ago

They’re delusional schmucks! Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Randall Anderson
Randall Anderson
6 years ago

GAYS AND LIBS are the same fools who wear CHE GUEVARRA tshirts…executioner of Blacks and Gays…under Castro…

iprazhm
iprazhm
6 years ago

Homofascists are one of the four horsemen of satan’s apocalypse. The other three being muslims, black supremacists and illegal aliens. They all aim to destroy America as we know it. Three of these are useful idiots who believe muslim propaganda that islam is their friend and ally. All the while savage jihadis secretly plan their demise.

Annie
Annie
6 years ago
Reply to  iprazhm

Excellent comparison.

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  iprazhm

Sadly, the so-called #MeToo and “Time’s Up” movements place women (save for Pamela and others who care about the future of Western civilization) as contenders for the “fifth horseman.”

iprazhm
iprazhm
6 years ago

Agreed!

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

Gays: Stop Defending the Left
– because the Left needs Islamists
– and Islamists are the enemies of gays

Jackie Puppet
Jackie Puppet
6 years ago

That banner should also say:

“Yes to assisted involuntary leaping off buildings”

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6 years ago

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IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

I can only imagine what would happen to that Swedish retard if he were to dress like that publicly in any islamic state. His half-life would be in minutes.

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6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Or this Twink could have all his dreams come true !!!

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John Forbes
John Forbes
6 years ago

What a DILLUSIONAL lot these GAYS are ! They would THROWN OFF BUILDINGS or HIGH PLACES or STONED to death in an ISLAMIC REPUBLIC like IRAN!
Talk about UNINFORMED!! OR VERY STUPID! Possibly BOTH!!

David Glynn
David Glynn
6 years ago

These gay turkeys are voting for Xmas.
Deathwish libtards!
PROSCRIBE ISLAM!

joanofark06
joanofark06
6 years ago

“Gays Should STOP Defending Islam”….I say, let them figure it out, for themselves…they made themselves, then they can listen to themselves.

Stefanie Daniella
Stefanie Daniella
6 years ago

as a supporter of diversity of LGBTIQQ+S (straights, too) folks
BUT
NOT ISLAM
including islam is a big NO-NO

I = Intersex (not Islam)
Q = Queer (Intergender/Neutrois/Asexual/etc)/Questioning (not Quran)
T = Trans (not Terrorism; aka; muhammadanism; Taqiyya (lying/deception/fake friendliness))

iprazhm
iprazhm
6 years ago

Then you support child molestation and rape. Almost every single homosexual is the result of childhood molestation themselves, by a family member, a friend of the family or an older child.
When a young child is given puberty blockers and opposite sex hormones to ‘change’ their sex, by twisted parents and unethical doctors, it actually, physically chemically castrates them. They are forever unable to create children. In – every – single – instance. Theses diabolical adults have turned children in their care into eunuchs. That should be a crime punishable by death.

Dr. Michelle Cretella Exposes How Transgenderism Harms Children In Interview With Tucker Carlson – can be found on youtube

Hyper-sexuality, transgenderism, and our children with Dr. Michelle Cretella
Pat Gray Unleashed Oct 27, 2017 – Dr. Cretella is the president of the American College of Pediatricians and discussed science versus ideology, chemical castration, puberty blockers, and physicians on the left who perpetuate the false notion of gender identity. Article and interview By Pat Gray Unleashed Oct 27, 2017

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  iprazhm

In some ways, those dubious “treatments” are to the LGBTQ+ “community” what FGM is to Islam. That this is permitted to be done to children is just one of many examples of how little children are valued and regarded, and how superfluous they are considered, in today’s society. Do you think a society that cares about the health, well-being, needs and best interests of children would permit any of this?

And this is not about the best interests of the children in the least. It is all about benefiting the “movement,” advancing their insidious agenda, and increasing their ranks in order to achieve critical mass to further their sledgehammer to social norms dating back thousands of years.

iprazhm
iprazhm
6 years ago

The supreme court butchered the constitution and opened Pandora’s box, When the amoral justices, it’s gags me to call them that, shoved abortion down the gullet of our country with their Roe vs Wade opinion, is the day children in America lost value in the eyes of progressives, liberals, leftists and our federal government.

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago
Reply to  iprazhm

That was the start of this slippery slope, for sure. That culture also had a hand in helping incite Casey Anthony to murder her own 2-year-old daughter in 2008.

Lee BC
Lee BC
6 years ago

Love your posts Stef… keep the wisdom flowing girl !

Patriotic American
Patriotic American
6 years ago

It’s not just borders between nations they seek to tear down, but also the boundaries of men and women, via their drive to spread transgenderism and rearrange all social and cultural norms to accommodate them exclusively at the expense of all else.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

Wouldn’t it be gr8 if these brain-dead LGBT’ers were to take their rainbow parade to the streets of:
1. Riyadh
2. Istanbul (was once Constantinople)
3. Islamabad
4. Tehran
5. Aceh
6. Malaysia
7. Mogadishu
8. Dearbornistan

I’d pay to watch such a parade — from a suitably long distance.

Suaria
Suaria
6 years ago

I know of at least 4 individuals all from Muslim majority countries who are perfectly accepting of LGBT people. My best friend, for instance, is from Bangladesh and is Muslim. She’s accepting of LGBT people. I know of two people from Pakistan; one is a gay man who is openly married to another man and a woman who’s bisexual. I know of another guy who’s from Lebanon; also accepting. My boyfriend, who isn’t Muslim or Hindu, is Indian (which is a Hindu majority country, and it is illegal to be gay) who’s accepting of LGBT people. You really have to actually go out and meet people before you always rely on statistics about people.

Dr D Bruno Starrs
Dr D Bruno Starrs
6 years ago

Get a proofreader – your writing is littered with poor grammar and other mistakes that make it near unreadable. For example, “none of 0%”.

Duchess of Pork
Duchess of Pork
6 years ago

Pleased to see the return of Ridvan Aydemir with another enlightening, well-sourced and documented article.

iprazhm
iprazhm
6 years ago

You’re using disdain for Christianity to mask support for an inherently heinous misuse of children by the LGBT community, who are literally masking barbaric butchery as a legitimate surgical procedure. You’re fooling no one.

iprazhm
iprazhm
6 years ago

Wow. Congratulations. You hit every tick on the leftist anti-christian rhetoric scale.

Annie
Annie
6 years ago

I admit there’s a rotten apple in every barrel.
And that if you don’t separate the rotten apple
from the good ones – the whole barrel becomes
rotten.

And just think – there are people just like you
who believe the rotten apple is as normal as all the rest – and should be treated as such.

And BTW – that rotten apple comparison does
not apply to rarely-born hemaphrodite people.

Annie
Annie
6 years ago

Let me ask you something. Was your former
name Jules? How ironic would that be?!

sarah
sarah
6 years ago

Thanks for that, Julia, my knowledge of second wave feminism is retroactive only. I was born in ’82, so by the time I was old enough to get involved in feminism (and I used to be, big time), I was very much influenced by third wave feminism. Sure, I knew all about second wave feminists like Gloria Steinem & Germaine Greer, but as a young woman back then, I was heavily influenced by stuff like Riot Grrrl, Kathleen Hanna (I moshed my teen years away to Bikini Kill and Hole LOL) and hung onto every word written by women like Naomi Wolf.

So what I knew to be feminism when I was a young woman was very different from the old school girls. Just like how I essentially stopped calling myself a feminist and stopped believing in feminism full stop (it was a gradual thing) when fourth wave feminism took hold and everything really jumped the shark with the movement.

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