[ April 16, 2024 ]
We are constantly admonished that Malaysia is a moderate Muslim nation, a model for the rest of the Islamic world and a demonstration of the fact that Islam can be compatible with a free and prosperous modern society. Yet as always, Islam sets the limits of just how free and modern a Muslim nation can be. Malaysia cannot outlaw child marriage, and Malaysian Muslim clerics are constantly seen condoning it, because Muhammad married his favorite wife Aisha at age six and consummated the marriage when Aisha was nine.
Since Muhammad did that, there is no way that Malaysia could criminalize child marriage or change the legal permissible age for marriage. They cannot increase the age for marriage; the age which is allowed in Islam must be followed.
And the Democrats and RINOs are doing everything they possibly can to bring this terror to our cities, towns, schools.
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“Preacher lambasted for saying girls should get married at 15”, by Mei Mei Chu, The Star, December 28, 2017:
PETALING JAYA: Moderation advocates have condemned the statement by preacher Azhar Idrus, saying that Muslim girls are marriageable at age 15 and Muslim women should not take photos in non-Muslim owned photo studios.
In a Harakah Daily reader question-and-answer section, Azhar answered a query about the boundaries between men and women by saying that women are marriageable at 15 after they have reached puberty.
He said, however, girls are getting married at a later age due to education, adding that they are about 28 years old by the time they are finished with university.
“But at 28 years old, no one would want to marry them and even if there were, the woman’s value has dropped,” he said in the article published on Monday (Dec 25).
He added that women are “only worth RM15 or RM16” at the age of 28.
Azhar added it is haram (prohibited) for teenagers of a marriageable age to befriend men unless the intention is to marry the man.
“Even after finishing school, it is haram to befriend men in any way at all,” he said.
In a question about men keeping photos of other women, Azhar said that Muslim women should not take photos at photo studios owned by non-Muslims.
“Do not take photos at non-Muslim establishments because it is shameful if your children or wife’s photos fall into the hands of non-Muslims,” he said.
Azhar added that the photos may be misused.
When contacted Thursday, Group of 25 Eminent Malays (G25) spokesman Datuk Noor Farida said Azhar should be investigated for sedition over his statement.
She said Azhar and his archaic views are dangerous to Malaysia’s multiracial society as he has a big following and has the potential to influence others, especially in a country where people have a tendency to blindly follow their ustaz’s word.
“In Islam, our Prophets honoured women. Women had many rights, were given properties and even the Prophet’s wife Khadijah bint Khuwaylid was a businesswoman,” said Noor Farida.
She added that women have careers and choices, adding it is deplorable to say that older women are not marriageable.
Sisters in Islam said Azhar’s statement is harmful as it perpetuates child marriages and promotes a culture that objectifies and sexualises women.
“To say that women should marry at 15 is encouraging child marriage,” it said.
Meanwhile, moderation advocate Mohamed Tawfik Ismail said Azhar’s responses are his personal opinion, as opposed to being based on the Quran.
“The Prophet married Khadijah when she was over 40 years old and yet the ustaz can flippantly place the value of a 28 year old at RM15. What verse is he quoting,” said Tawfik.
He adds that Azhar’s comments about Muslim women only patronising Muslim photographers are illogical and prejudiced….
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6 years ago
Stinky man.
6 years ago
Reply to
AlgorithmicAnalyst
Stinky old men using religion as pretext to fsck young girls
6 years ago
Reply to
Kalambong Kalambong
What do you expect from a follower of a pedophile fake prophet Mohammad?
6 years ago
Girls marrying at 15 is a little young. But historically been done more in the west as an acceptable age for most of human history. Islam does understand that numbers matter and winning the war through reproduction. It was Mohammed that said the most powerful weapon of Islam is the womb. Girls in the west are too busy taking selfies, getting abortions, getting women’s studies degrees, being sjw’s for political correctness and lgbtQ.
Western countries aren’t reproducing at replacement rates. We need to understand that a large part of winning this war is getting our reproduction rates up again. And women have a small reproduction window. At 40 it’s pretty much over. 15 is the beginning of that window, not 35. If we pay attention to some of the things these muslims are saying we might actually learn something. 28 is old to start child birth. 12 to 14 years have been wasted not bringing children into this world. No wonder Islam is the fastest growing religion.
Say what you want in critiquing islam. And there is more than enough material to do that. And I won’t come to its defense. But I will say they understand that the most important part about winning a culture war is having people that are your culture. Islam has us beat here. They don’t push lower populations. Or saving the earth small family garbage. They are in it to win it. We need to learn a lesson here. We need to be more committed to winning than they are and get more organized. I am not seeing that to have confidence in our victory.
6 years ago
Reply to
peakpower
The Left/liberal Loons even allow their women/Girls to be assaulted, molested, gang raped , murdered http://bit.ly/2tTQW4b
..and its all Halal (approved) as per allah !
So police in Left/liberal pro-islam countries/states do not even register case and mock the victims or let him off lightly if charged.
6 years ago
Reply to
Suresh
Leftist quack about sexual assault unless it muslim. Then they are culturally confused and don’t know better. Islam and liberals are cut from the same cloth. It’s all about destroying freedom.
6 years ago
Reply to
peakpower
As much as we denounce and criticize it every day, Islam’s high birth rates are actually quite difficult to deal with.
Especially with Christianity and religiosity declining steadily in the U.S. and Europe.
6 years ago
Reply to
R. Arandas
Young women need to be taught responsibility in their part of building civilization.
6 years ago
Reply to
R. Arandas
Not be able to feed itself, boar hogs (moslem males) start selling off their gilts (moslem female spawn) at a very early age.
6 years ago
Reply to
peakpower
I understand what you are saying as well as your concerns, but the world population stands at about 7.5 billion give or take, having doubled from 3.5 billion in a relatively short time. People make waste and use resources. The future will be worrisome, to put it mildly. The uneducated countries, or countries planning invasion, or take over by sheer numbers, keep having numerous children without concern as to how they shall feed them or get medical care. Why should they be concerned? The western lands step in, as usual, and try to remedy the situation, as usual, therefore negating the necessity for countries and their populace to accept any personal responsibility.
I do agree that if many countries are insidiously playing the numbers game, then go for it, and bring children into the world.
I do not believe any religion is the fastest growing one or whatever. That religion has grown through conquering, invasion, coercion, and violence. The world has changed, and everything gets watered down.
The West needs to defend itself and become stronger everyday, every hour. It needs to mind its own business, and embrace common sense. Beware the numbers.
6 years ago
… Muslim preacher says girls should marry at 15 (-> so old?)
He must be seriously a moderate Muslim 🙂
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/67/69 ‘that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was SIX years old and he consummated (“nice word for raped” @AliSinaOrg) his marriage when she
was NINE (lunar, 8 solar) years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).’ https://www.instagram.com/p/BdKdjt5Hvgf/?taken-by=thorsten59
6 years ago
Isn’t fifteen, for a moslem female, already considered an old maid? Over the hill at twelve, from what I have heard.
6 years ago
“Women had many rights”….. with the operative word being HAD! Now they are property.
6 years ago
That poor man has a rat glued to his chin
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
Sitrep Iran: Demonstration tracker
Day 3 demonstrations are more numerous than Day 1 demonstrations. Things are going South, rapidly…
6 years ago
Reply to
DemocracyRules
No, no. It’s just build up of years and years of genital goat hair. Nothing to worry about.
6 years ago
+++SILENCE IS THE PREDATOR’S BEST FRIEND ‘… “O Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ)!
How can we know her permission?” He said, “Her silence (indicates her permission).’ https://sunnah.com/bukhari/67/72-73 https://sunnah.com/bukhari/89/7 https://www.instagram.com/p/BcsKchznwLh/?taken-by=thorsten59
6 years ago
Reply to
Thorsten
Silence indicates assent. Sick and perverted, but what else should I expect from a damned, dumb, Jew hating, totalitarian death cult?
6 years ago
Marriage should be up to the girl to decide when, not some filthy pervert who uses medieval pornography to validate the gibberish that is passed off as the religion of islam.
6 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
Females are not counted as ‘human’ in i-slam
They don’t get to decide anything
They must let their men (father, brothers, husband, sons) to make decisions for them
6 years ago
Reply to
Kalambong Kalambong
That will have to change. It is not up for discussion, eventually half the muslim population will get a clue.
6 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
Agreed. What can you say about a society which considers a girl to be an old maid one week after successfully completing her potty training?
6 years ago
Reply to
Drew the Infidel
Considering muslims prefer bacha bazi boys and goats, it is hard to understand.
6 years ago
Take one look at this idiot and you see why forced marriage is the Islamic way of life.
Even the goats would want someone baaaaaatter…
6 years ago
“But at 28 years old, no one would want to marry them and even if there
were, the woman’s value has dropped,” he said in the article published
on Monday (Dec 25)….” Ohhh……so, they’re just trying to create ‘value’ in these young women. So they don’t expire, you know, like a carton of milk. Why, makes perfect sense.
6 years ago
Hmm Rock singer and Christian Jerry lee Lewis, married a 13 yo. When asked about it she sad it was common in the South.
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Oh dear, you obviously are not in touch with Rock and Roll. Maybe Square dance music is your forte
So Jerry lee has been dead for decades you say? . It must have been an interesting night when he opened the Rock and Roll hall of fame concert on 29th Oct 2009.
The killer is still going,although whether he was or ot wouldn’t invalidate his marriage to a 13 yo when he was still alive.
A hint here is get your facts right before popping up with smart arse comments.
But thanks anyway, It’s always amusing to see you stick your foot in your mouth.
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
Paul I notice you have carefully avoided the subject of Jerry Lees marriage to a 13 yo.
As a diversion … it’s a fail But I am amused at the fact that ignrance by listers here is in direct proportion to their use of abuse… And you area good example.
But Izlamisis still the champ.
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
You assume incorrectly. I just know more about Rock singers than you do , and I definitely know more than Izzy.
The history of age of consent in Western countries leaves you needing to be careful about a holier than thou attitude.
The Vatican until very recently had the age of consent as 12 until the current Pope raised it in about 2013.
And you might notice that Jerry Lee wasn’t prosecuted for his 13 yo bride’s marriage
And Jerry Lee’s career did not go down the sewer. He opened the 25th anniversary of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame concert in 2009. .
As for being able to recite the number of cases of child abuse by Muslims, perhaps a more useful start might be made by reading the report of the Royal Commission into Child abuse, where the major abusers were found to be Catholic clergy, Salvationists, Church of England and the Jewish.
Best to base a discussion on facts.[ and not live in glass houses]
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
Jerry Lee Lewis has been dead for decades. When muslum apologists/sympathizers and muslums defend their damned, dumb, Jew hating, totalitarian death cult all they have to do so is fallacies of argumentation, lies and evasions.
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
Paul Obscure irrelevant singer from the 50s? Like Chuck Berry, and with Elvis, Carl Perkins, Johnny Cash who is listed as Sun Records all stars.
Remember facts ,try and get them right. And my stats, well tell us what stats you get out of the Royal Commission to child abuse. The 3 rd highest ranking catholic worldwide is facing court this year.
Rape cases,the victim is protected not that fact of there being a rape case.
Facts try using them more often, much better that 9 out of 10 housewives agree, your current source.
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
Paul So ‘big deal’ but then if you didn’t know , why make such a stupid inaccurate claim, I see you appeared to have looked up Jerry lee. But as to why you made a glaringly obvious inaccurate claim.. well everyone here seems to do it, from Pam downwards.. I suppose you thought you’d fit in.
And speaking of stupid mistakes, why would you assume I am a Muslim? Are all people who support Israel’s occupation of Palestine, Jews?
Are you Jewish?
Useless chattel.you say? would that be like slaves in the USA. Or single women in Irish catholic homes for single others?
BTW do all the children posting here think that if they swear and sue racial insults, that will hide the lack of facts n what they say.
I suspect if Goebells was still alive he’d be very happy to see people using his methods.
So many of his quotes apply here.
“This is the secret of propaganda. Those who are to be persuaded by it, must be completely immersed in the ideas of the propaganda ,without ever noticing that they are being immersed in it” And here you are good like Geller Youth members parroting the party line as you’ve been told to do. “” Send all the Muslims to the gas chambers
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
Well Messianic Jew. A sort of platypus theology. Bit of this, bit of that- started of course in America. I didn’t know much about them but reading up it seems , they are the Jewish people when you really want Christians or is it vice versa? , I see the Israeli govt only grants rights of return if they can prove Jewish descent.
Which seems a bit well racist, a semitic Aryanism, so to speak.
Personally from the viewpoint of a Godless heathen, atheist; surely bound for Hell fire and damnation, all religions cater to the befuddled, bewildered lonely hearts looking for meaning in futile lives.
In other words, crazies.
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
Paul, I thought you were ‘done”
But Gosh, I’m glad i’m not someone who condones and supports, well, all those things.
But of course, yourself being Jewish, might like to read ..
Ham’ishpat 429,50 “Everyone who sheds the blood of the impious[ Non jew} is as acceptable to God as one
who offers a sacrifice to God ” Other readers may ont want to risk inviting you round for a BBQ. especially sharp knives being involved.
Yalkut 245c “Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice”……
Well it goes on,but being Jewish thine-self { my attempt at religion speak] you would know all that already. And probably be able to tell us a few more about- How much your daughter is worth if sold into slavery, who to stone for adultery and working on the Sabbath and which nations it is permissible to keep slave from.
So this is you last comment? Never again?,”No Never” “What never, ever?” “Well, hardly ever”
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
Did lawyer Peter Kelso ever receive a reply from the Royal Commission to his letter asking if the commission had looked at abuse from within Islam, particularly relating to forced child marriage, female genital mutilation and child sex?
Did former PM Julia Gillard ever give a straight answer when asked if Islam had been excluded from the Terms of Reference for the Royal Commission?
6 years ago
Reply to
Duchess of Pork
Duchess. Thanks for taking an interest. To answer your last question, I am not privy to everything the PM said, However the terms of reference are freely available on line. I have just looked and can see no reference at all that mentions any Religion at all , and obviously that includes Islam, being excluded. If I have missed it,perhaps you could point it out. But apart from that any such exemption would have caused a storm of outrage , and there are certainly politicians of the extreme right who would have delighted in highlighting it.
As to a letter to a lawyer, you would have to ask him, A reply from the Royal Commission would be a private letter, not sent via “Letters to the Editor’in daily papers.
But I note that Kelso is a lawyer who make s living from pursuing child abuse compensation claims, so has some sort of vested interest.
In regards to the abuse you mention, Forced child marriage, FGM and child sex are already illegal and are prosecuted in Australia.
Victims of abuse were able to present at the hearings and give details, If Muslims victims had presented [ and there may have been, I don’t keep track of this, they would have been heard.
If there is some actual evidence that Muslims received a favourable hearing it should be presented , not hinted at.
In any case the overwhelming complaints heard and received involved catholic, Salvation Army C of E and Jewish institutions. Many of the cases arestill in the throws or waiting to be heard . many others the perpetrators are in gaol.
The other matter examined was not just the acts of abuse, but the lengths the institutions went to to cover them up/ not report them to police / and try to silence the complainants through legal means.
Or in the case of one jewish teacher currently fighting extradition, the Jewish spiriting the person away to Israel on the fist available flight to Israel with a view to avoiding extraditition
The Commission findings are available readily.
6 years ago
Reply to
Duchess of Pork
Just before Christmas in West Papua and Australians care more for the refugees on Manus Island than the slow genicide in West Papua by Indonesias TNI military and police. If you ever search Indonesia best if one uses TNI as it gives better results in search terms
https://www.freewestpapua.org/2017/12/24/indonesian-military-and-police-shoot-5-west-papuan-people-and-torture-4-including-children/
Did you give this much thought about Russian airforce landing at Biak airforce base and the size of base it must be to fly in these big aircraft. People may call it Indonesia but I still call it West Papua.
Indonesia has taken West Papua, helped out by our Australian Labor Governments. Even Bob Hawke giving five Sabre Jets to kill East Timorese, besides all else given to them aid with DEFAT while they spent 18 billion on defence.
The Etan link comes in handy learning about what hapoens just north of Australia
We forget
Indonesian Chinese Genocide in Indonesia under Suharto
East Timor Invasion, and Balibo Five reporters
West Papua take over.
I always fear Indonesia and how they have put bases couple hundred kilometres from Australian northern shores.
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
Your stinking red herring argument about a long dead Jerry Lee Lewis doesn’t excuse the fact of your pedophile prophet muslum monkey nor the fact of pedophilia and pederasty across the muslum world.
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Izzy You have somewhat of a credibility problem. Tell, oh R&R guru, when did Jerry lee Lewis die?
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
You’re right. He’s still alive! However, on the flip-side, his pre-pubescent wife has long been divorced from him! And divorce for women, no matter what their age, doesn’t work in the muslum world does it allahtard?
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Izzy Right? Of course I’m right
And he was divorced well what a shock , like about 50 % of Americans who divorce.
And women do get divorced under Islam , But while you’re on the subject of divorce, tell us about divorce for orthodox Jewish couples. Or perhaps Pam can tell us , as a divorced jewish person herself. And oh dear”Allahtard ” that’s so cutting [ and original too] i don’ tknow if i’ll recover from being called that.. The only thing that could be worse, would be f yu said your dad was bigger than mine, and he’s a policeman too. Oh please Allah don’t let that happen.
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
Oh really? Women and men have equal access and rights in divorces in muslum states eh allahtard? Can women pull a triple-talaq divorce?
Whatever Orthodox Judaism does or doesn’t do is irrelevant allahtard and comes under the fallacy of argumentation known as Tu Quoque.
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Dizzy
OH dear, a fact free zone again. Have a read on what the Talmud says about divorce. I can’t be bothered spoon feeding you, have a read and get your facts right before running off at the mouth.
And Orthodox Jewish practice s are relevant here. The whole site is run by a Jew with the specific intent to stir up hatred against Muslims. { Yes Pam you are doing a good job with that ]
So there ‘s no reason why her own religion’s practices should be examined as well.
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
I’ll type slower so a dumb allahtard like you can keep up. I don’t care about the Talmud. I don’t care about Orthodox Judaism. Orthodox Jews are not slaughtering/enslaving/persecuting/raping people of other faiths all over the world allahtard — only muslum vermin like you are.
I hope your long overdue karma balance is paid up filthy muslum f*ck. I hope it’s paid up in bloody coin.
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Dizzy Izzy
Don’t type slower, [ or more slowly as we say in English] just think more clearly.
Just between us, I don’t car that you don’t care.
This hate site is being run by a Jew and there’s no reason that if she wants to criticise Muslims. her own religion shouldn’t be subject to the same scrutiny.
. And there’s no reason when she lies or exaggerates, those shouldn’t be pointed out
And there’s no reason why when idiots on this site spout off and don’t know the difference between Iraq and Iran that shouldn’t be pointed out.
Or One who spends time arguing based on not knowing who Jerry Lee Lewis is.. Nothing wrong with him not owing, but he kept digging himself in deeper.
Call me all the made up swear words about Muslims you like. Not being a Muslim it doesn’t offend me at all..
Can I just ad the word Americans can’t bear to say .. USS Vincennes.
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Izzy
Just thinking, you wouldn’t know if your “Great balls were on Fire” as Jerry might have said , or “There’s a Whole Lot of Faking Göing on ” : >)
6 years ago
Pedophiles LOVE Islam.
6 years ago
Reply to
felix1999
So.. does that make Pam’s pal Milo a Muslim? He having stated in an interview that he thought “some 13 yos were sexually and emotionally mature enough to have sex with adults ” So how does this fit in with Pam’s crusade against pedophilia?.
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
So you don’t think Milo said that, Why do you think he lost the Briebart job?
Unfortunately you write like the age a potential sex partner for Milo. Send him your pic XXXX
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
An implicit argument of false equivalence because in the muslum world Analtard pederasty is a time-honored and legal tradition (i.e. Pakistain, Afghanistain, Iranistain).
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Izzy You’ve lost any claim to logic when you start using words like “änaltard”
I know you’ve seen the other children use it and similar and it may seem “cool” in the playground, but this isn’t the playground.
Oh, I stand corrected , looking at most comments here, it’s seems the children have taken over.
But speaking of “Time honoured traditions”, avoiding difficult questions seems to be an Olympic Sport here.
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
I haven’t lost anything allahtard but your puerile attempts to excuse islamobarbarism are obvious.
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
You seem unlikely to have lost your virginity for a start, with a mouth like that.
6 years ago
I care a lot less about this than the deliberate, state-sponsored, pro-muslum discriminatory hiring and university enrollment practices known as bumiptra. A Western Digital rep. told me ALL their facilities in Malyasiastan must have a minimum number of muslum employees.
6 years ago
SICK, ugly pedophile.
6 years ago
What do you expect from barbaric cretins who view women solely as breeding stock? To those pigs, women are just property.
?islam and ?the paedophile Mohammed.
6 years ago
Reply to
Jane Dowe
Pisslamists are proud of their goats, chickens and camels. What does it say of them when they cover and hide their women?
6 years ago
The value of a Muslim male is non-existent.
6 years ago
So, marriage at 15 means, what, genital mutilation at 14?
15 years to take a girl, how many before they take a goat?
6 years ago
The real question is why would any sensible woman want to marry any inbred monkey like him? Oh i forgot with Islam the woman has no choice. Boy the left sure knows how to pick the most vile cults to adopt.
6 years ago
Cursed is their filthy fake prophet Mohammad.
6 years ago
Women are not wombs, they are human beings. That being said, I understand the multifaceted approach to the lofty ideas of invasion and takeover. Sheer numbers being one of those well thought out approaches. But where would the world be if the West did not step in to feed and care for the world’s masses? I think the West should mind their own business and let countries figure out what their people are doing. After all, do not we pay so many countries so much money, and for what? Can someone explain that one? Where is that money going?
The numbers grow because the liberals have facilitated it. We pay for the world and their doings, as our cities crumble, strewn with garbage, marred by vandalism, afflicted by crime. Our actions must benefit us primarily. Countries need to step up to the 21st century and own their actions.
The thought of women being forced to marry at any age let alone a young age is repulsive, disgusting, and violates basic human rights of the individual. Women are people, right? We are fortunate in the West but the rest of the world lies, lies, lies. THEY care not for the women.
6 years ago
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6 years ago
Another example of pisslam and pedophilia
