Archeologists discover Jewish symbol inscribed on Early Islamic period coins, further falsifying the legend of Muhammad

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How long before the Supreme Council of murdering mullahs declares a fatwa against the coin?

Will islamophobic coinage never end? Robert Spencer writes:

This supports the argument that I presented in my book Did Muhammad Exist?, that Islam was not presented to the world in complete form by a man named Muhammad, but began to appear only decades later than the traditional date for Muhammad’s death, and is an amalgam of material from multiple sources, principally Judaism and Christianity. For decades in the seventh century, it was in an inchoate state in terms of doctrine, even as Arab armies were conquering large swathes of the Middle East and North Africa. During that period, public buildings were inscribed with crosses, and coins featured crosses as well, along with, as we now see, menorahs. Islam was put together from disparate elements in order to provide a religion that would unify the new Arab empire. The new creed was martial and expansionist because it was crafted by warriors and for warriors.

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“Archeologists discover menorah inscribed on Early Islamic period coins,” by Daniel K. Eisenbud, Jerusalem Post, December 6, 2017:

Researchers recently discovered that menorahs prominently adorned Muslim coins and vessels during the early Islamic period 1,300 years ago.

Relics inscribed with the Jewish symbol dating to the Umayyad dynasty during the seventh-eighth centuries were found at various archeological sites in Israel and are now being exhibited to the public.

Last year, archeologists Assaf Avraham of Bar-Ilan University, and Peretz Reuven of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem exposed an early Islamic inscription referring to the Dome of the Rock as “Beit al-Maqdis.” Jewish-Muslim influences in early days of Islam

According to scholars, the “Nuba inscription,” as it is called, implies that in the early days of Islam, Muslims perceived the shrine as an Islamic version of the Temple of Solomon.

Now, researchers are exposing further finds in Israel that constitute evidence of Jewish influences in the early days of Islam.

“The Jewish symbol which the Muslims were using was the menorah [the gold seven-branch candelabra from the Temple], which appeared on several coins and other early Islamic artifacts,” said Avraham on Wednesday.

“The menorah coins bear the Shahada Arabic inscription on one side: ‘There is no god but Allah,’ while the menorah appears in the center of the coin. The other side bears the inscription: ‘Muhammad [is the] messenger of God.’”

In addition to the coins, the archeologists are presenting several pottery and lead vessels from the early Islamic period that also utilized the menorah symbol in their design.

“They are dated to the early days of the Islamic caliphate, and were in use by Muslims,” said Avraham, noting that the finds are of great importance for understanding the history of Islam….

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Voytek Gagalka
Voytek Gagalka
6 years ago

It is pointless to try to reason with people who have chosen to abandon reason. In the case of Mohammedans, they never discovered it. So doubtless they will find easy rationalization (“explanation”) for that finding and on top of all blame Mossad (Jews in general), accusing falsification. They deny connection of Jews to the Temple Mount and Jerusalem and acknowledge now some coin? Unlikely.

Halal Bacon
Halal Bacon
6 years ago
Reply to  Voytek Gagalka

here, let me back up your statement, you are welcome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmetQD1q4bY

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
6 years ago
Reply to  Halal Bacon

I’d say this cad needs to study up on fluid dynamics!

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Halal Bacon

muslims are really not all that smart, they are submissive and obedient, to the point of stupidity.

Superbowl 14
Superbowl 14
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

A result of their inbreeding.

AlgorithmicAnalystD
AlgorithmicAnalyst
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

You probably saw this already 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOFY3ZSVSMI

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

Typical muslim, stupid is very becoming on them.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Halal Bacon

Islamic “science” in action. I wonder what happens if you dispute the flat-earth or geocentric views of the universe that are found in the holey quranus?

GandalfsTrouserpress
GandalfsTrouserpress
6 years ago
Reply to  Halal Bacon

I’d always suspected the Earth did not turn and that the Sun moved around it and now know it to be true.
This foreign-looking chap is obviously wealthy and therefore a good source.
He spills the beans on the so-called ‘Moon landings’ too.
A great mind that has knowledge and wisdom in abundance.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Halal Bacon

There is no fool like a muslim fool.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago
Reply to  Voytek Gagalka

People are devoid of knowledge and brain washed. They resort to emotions since they don’t have facts – just sound bites or half truths. It is frustrating but we must keep trying when possible.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

Agreed. It is easy to recognize the parts they cherry picked from the book of Leviticus.

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago
Reply to  Voytek Gagalka

Yes, debate with them always finishes up with abuse, fist waving threats and violence. I guess that debating is not part of madrassa curricula.

Superbowl 14
Superbowl 14
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

You can’t argue with stupid. Lock & load is all they understand.

Millionmileman
Millionmileman
6 years ago

I guess these coins were all over Jerusalem during this period in history! Today’s “Day of Rage” was over the exchange rate.

SRN99
SRN99
6 years ago
Reply to  Millionmileman

The day of rage is over the stupidity of islam.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
6 years ago

The excellent ElderofZiyon posted a rather interesting perspective today on the Moslem menorah in which he is sharply critical of some of the Israeli archeologists (rather too much so, in my mind):

See article Did early Muslims respect Jewish symbols – or co-opt them?

at http://www.elderofziyon.com [I don’t seem to be able to link to the exact page]

Whatever the case, it’s clear to all but the most ignorant of people- and that includes many who have spent their lives studying the Koran- that early Islam was heavily influenced by Christian and Jewish thinking of the time:

Moslems must be very insecure in their faith to to discount such evidence as Moslem menorahs. Of course, since they chronically lie, they expect that other people are doing the same and so come up with cockamamy theories to fit the facts as they wish to present them (e.g., in the link inside Elder’s article to one of his articles from a few years ago, some so-called Moslem scholar claimed there were no Jews in Jerusalem from the time of Titus to that of Saladin). Dontcha know, all these archeological findings are some sort of kafir plot?

AlgorithmicAnalystD
AlgorithmicAnalyst
6 years ago

That would make sense.

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satcatchet
satcatchet
6 years ago

Amen.

Mark GoldbergD
Mark Goldberg
6 years ago

From Elderofziyon.com
He’s referring to the authors of the article about their asserting that it showed some peaceful interfaith at the beginning.. ha.
———————————-
This is wishful thinking, not science.

We’ve looked at the Muslim use of the menorah before. It is true that they started depicting a seven-branch menorah in their coins, but soon they changed it to a five-branch menorah with a base of two legs instead of three as virtually all menorahs were depicted on Jewish coins.

Some scholars say that the five branches as meant to represent the give pillars of Islam, and one intriguing theory says that these later coins – which were all minted in Jerusalem – were meant to be a visual pun, where turning them one way looks like a menorah but turning them the other way looks like the Dome of the Rock, complete with the crescent on top formed by the anomalous two-leg base! And on at least some coins the text was written as if the Dome picture is meant to be primary.

It is true that Islam originally tried to attract Jews by emphasizing its Jewish roots. But, as with Christianity, this was not evidence of co-existence – it was evidence that Judaism was being superceded by Islam, and anyone who did not see the light was clearly a problem.

The researchers pushing this “co-existence” meme are seeking crowdfunding for their efforts to paint early Islam as a tolerant religion based on biased reading of archaeology. True research doesn’t decide what the results would be ahead of time.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Goldberg

Like others…. I believe there was animosity present. The Jews are God’s chosen people and He is not finished with them and Christians and the church have no “replaced” them.

True Christians love the Jewish people. We are grafted from their tree and ever grateful that Christ came to allow us access to heaven too. I am blessed to be a Christian and I look forward to when JEWISH Jesus reigns and evil is gone for at least 1000 years…

Kalambong Kalambong
Kalambong Kalambong
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

There is one thing that all of us need to know:

Islam was a forgery, is a forgery, and will forever be a forgery

JWM
JWM
6 years ago

Simply stated and accurate.

Mark GoldbergD
Mark Goldberg
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

It is not the point of the discussion but as you feel compelled to affirm your belief let me assess that I feel you are correct and that there was no ‘replacing’ the Jewish people, as the chosen nation to demonstrate G-d’s existence and the meaning of all that. However, ‘chosen’ is used erroneously because it doesn’t mean superiority, which is the keystone point of ‘islam’ among it’s other key points- it legalized Mo’s false belief that muzzie’s were inherently superior, and had theologic and then entirely legal rights to not merely submit all others but to be owed the earthly possessions by theologic right. Welfare by entitlement. This is false, and worse.

The Jewish, the Torah belief bestows no such largess of non jews for jews. Rather it details the jews being chosen to represent the relationship, and to serve others, as such, by showing what that relationship should and can mean.
Of course, people are people, and that is true for all people(s), so no one gets a leg up in actuality
but back to the issues- Mo’ was a murderer and a submitter, a taker, and that’s my opinion…. and of others. But… the issue for me is not to demean his existence but rather to understand that the gift of the Torah, in the immediate and longest sense was the whole idea of the laws for humanity, that we all have to strive towards; a high jump bar that we have to live up to. Individually, nationally, culturally of course we can fail, sometimes live up to but the idea was that we compete for that betterment, for that firmer divinity, as such.
I do not believe in your Jesus as messiah, but that doesn’t give me the right to destroy your freedom to believe, but rather to live up to those ideals of Torah, the laws within, and that is what the Torah, and Talmud, brought to the western civilization and the rest of the world too, obliquely- that we all should compete for that firmer divinity.
That would be the coin of the realm from my perspective.

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Goldberg

Its quite fruitless to debate on whether mohamad existed. Then why was this single man and his detailed perverted history be known if it was only meant to unite Arabs ?

And It takes away the fun of citicising humgoat creators http://bit.ly/2iMxEZt

…if we debate on his existence. coins with Jewish or other non-islamic symbols do not matter as it was used as currency for trade/commerce.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

Great Post!
And the Arabs did not arise from nowhere in 700 AD
– Arab nomadic pastorals, often called Bedouin
– lived in ME desert lands for thousands of years
– Their only real civilization was the Nabateans
– based in Petra, Jordan
– they were contemporaneous with the Isrealites
– and when Judeans were shipped to Babylon as slaves
– Nabateans moved in
– they were polytheists,
– human sacrifice, other bizarre rituals
– were common ME practices of that era
– the strongest common feature of their society
– was the ability to survive in very dry lands
– not a unifying religion

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago

Fascinating!
Ms. Geller, leave it to you to highlight this. Many of us would never have known. I can’t thank you enough for all your hard work. Many of us as still high off President Trump honoring Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. He may be surrounded by seriously evil swamp people but after a time it’s the Trump agenda that wins.

SRN99
SRN99
6 years ago

Islam is a cult founded by a pedophile, rapist, murderer and thief. Cursed by God to be the scum of the earth.

robert v g
robert v g
6 years ago

Judeo-Christian teachings are based on actual history ,confirmed by contemporary secular historians.

Alleged-Comment
Alleged-Comment
6 years ago

LOL! Some more lieberal heads should be exploding.

joe1429
joe1429
6 years ago

Shows, islam is a farce

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago

Religion is defined as “the spiritual or emotional attitude of one who recognizes the existence of a superhuman power or powers.” That would explain pisslam tendencies toward crude barbarism with only occasional references to Biblical items.
In other words, raghead beliefs are a phony.

Qur'an 18:86
Qur'an 18:86
6 years ago

Much as I respect the expertise of Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller on other aspects of Islam, I am sure that they are wholly mistaken in the notion that Mo did not actually exist and was just an invented legend. Myths always have mythical elements which can be seen to not make sense. And are not extensively documented in boring detail. By contrast, the Quran, Hadith, and Sira paint an extensive detailed picture of a self-serving conman which no fiction author could possibly make up so accurately. The psychopath psychology, the social sociology of the communities of the time and place, and the logical causality which enabled a hoaxer to progressively strengthen his grip, then get assassinated by his “wives” Safiya (who hated him) and Aisha (who had come to hate him), and then the successor caliphs to extend theirs, is far too coherent and credible to be mere invention.

And historians get badly out of their depth by the fact that this was an illiterate society of oral memory rather of written records, and of nomadic tent camps rather than of stone cities. And of course the Jihadists themselves were migrant types (cf current and recent history) who having conquered luxurious places elsewhere didn’t bother to go back to their hovels in primitive Arabia.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  Qur'an 18:86

Bingo! The reason they didn’t “return to their hovels” after “conquering luxurious places” is because they had created new hovels to fit their comfort zone. You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t.

Qur'an 18:86
Qur'an 18:86
6 years ago

Most areas of uk have become posher in recent decades. The “muslim” areas of uk have instead become slummier, but still not as slummy as the areas of “muslim countries” from which they came.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  Qur'an 18:86

One drop of poison can ruin an entire cup of wine.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Qur'an 18:86

slime spreads and so does islum.

GandalfsTrouserpress
GandalfsTrouserpress
6 years ago

Archaeology is in ruins.

Stephen Honig
Stephen Honig
6 years ago

Proof will not change the mind of a Muslim. Their whole life is guided by hate, murder, torture, slavery and injustice. Just like their wars in history. Their philosophy is not for peace in the world, but as I just mentioned

reggiec
reggiec
6 years ago

Islam and their entire Koran/Sunna have no legitimacy! Because Islam claims that both Allah and Mohammed are perfect in every way and cannot be contradicted. So they have a very serious problem. The problem is that the whole religion is based on Mohammed’s and Allah’s, infallibility.
Since Islam takes the stance that Allah is perfect and Mohammed as his prophet is also perfect; how can they explain the necessity of the doctrine of “naskh”?
This aspect is what is called the doctrine of abrogation or naskh found in Islamic theology. This states that any revelation given to the prophet that came after earlier revelations abrogates earlier revelations. If any conflict exists in the revelations, the latter cancels the earlier version. (Does this mean Allah changed his mind after earlier revelations to Muhammad or did Muhammad make a mistake and had to be corrected by Allah?
If Allah is so perfect, he should have seen what would happen in the future and there would have been no need to make changes as allowed through “naskh”.
In either case who is to say that Mohammed got it right the second time or maybe Mohammed changed what he claimed were Allah’s revelations (they were probably made up by Mohammed in the first place) to further his murderous ideology. The very existence of the doctrine of abrogation “naskh” negates the legitimacy of the entire Koran because it destroys the concept that Mohammed and or Allah were perfect.
Some Islamic scholars contend that since Allah is perfect he could change his mind and this justifies “naskh”. This explanation just further demonstrates the complete illegitimacy of Islam. If Allah is perfect and Mohammed, his prophet, got everything correct there would never be a reason for any conflict or any necessity to revise something that was supposed to be “perfect” the first time around.

Mike Kevins
Mike Kevins
6 years ago

This is why the muslims destroy all the ancient artifacts they find. It completely disproves their cult. Jewish archaeologists used to go to the garbage dump and find all kinds of relics and artifacts. That’s when the muslims started destroying them instead. Mo is an amalgam of stories assembled to justify their actions.

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