[ April 18, 2024 ]
The second man was filming and had a bag of knives, and this isn’t terrorism? How long are our authorities going to lie to us in this way, and continue to tell us we are not at war when we are under siege? This continued denial and willful ignorance is unconscionable. It is patently obvious what this was: vehicular jihad. Anyone can see it. What interest do the Melbourne police have in denying the obvious? Why are they keeping their people in the dark?
The New York Times made it their headline.
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“LIVE: Melbourne incident the act of mentally ill drug addict,” by Chip Le Grand,Tessa Akerman, Samantha Hutchinson, Paul Maley, and Paul Johnson, The Australian, December 21, 2017:
19 people were injured and several hospitalised including a small child when a driver with a history of drug use and mental issues mowed them down on Flinders St, in melbourne’s [sic] CBD. Police have suggested that terrorism was not at play.
Nineteen people have been taken to hospital following a deliberate attack on a Melbourne intersection in which a rogue driver ran a red light and mowed down pedestrians.
Victoria Police revealed that fifteen of the victims are in a stable condition, and another four are in a critical condition.
Among those hospitalised are the 32-year-old driver of the car used in the attack and the off-duty police officer who arrested him.
The man who mowed down and injured 19 pedestrians in what police described as a ‘deliberate act’, in Melbourne’s CBD, at the intersection of Flinders and Elizabeth streets is believed to be a drug addict with a history of mental health problems.
The Australian understands the attack, which occurred at 4.41pm in the heart of downtown Melbourne, is not being treated as terrorism.
Rather, the driver is thought to be a mentally ill man with a history of addiction to the drug ice.
The driver is receiving treatment for injuries he sustained when police dragged him from the car and handcuffed him in the wake of the pre-Christmas attack.
The off-duty sergeant sustained hand and shoulder injuries when he jumped in to restrain the driver after his car crashed into a tram stop. Acting Commissioner Shane Patton described him as a hero.
Police have ruled out terror as a motive, but have said they will continue to work with counter terrorism throughout the investigation.
“We don’t have at this time any evidence or intelligence to indicate a connection with terrorism,” Acting Commissioner Shane Patton said. “Having said that we continue to support this investigation with the counter terror command.”
Mr Patton said a second man who was arrested at the scene is not believed to be connected with the car attack.
He said the second man had come under suspicion because he was filming the incident and was later found to have three knives in a bag.
Police said it was likely he would be exonerated.
The driver of the car was known to police, who said that he had a history of mental health issues and was on a mental health plan and had drug issues.
The driver also has historical assault charges from 2010 and more recent driving offences to his name, but was not on bail or under any current court order.
Mr Patton said the driver was an Australian citizen of Afghan descent and was driving a car owned by a family member.
Premier Daniel Andrews called the attack, which occurred at peak hour at one of the city’s busiest intersections, as an act of “evil and an act of cowardice”
“We’ve seen an horrific act, an act of cowardice perpetrated against innocent bystanders,” Mr Andrews said.
The man is believed to have been alone in his car when the incident occurred and police said they had seized no weapons from the vehicle but were investigating the possiblity that he was driving while impaired.
* There weren’t any weapons identified when he was taken from the vehicle, police say
* Police cannot confirm if the man driving the vehicle was an Afghan refugee or born in Australia.
* There was one sole person in the car and that was the offender who is in custosy. [sic]
* A second person had a bag with three knives and at this stage Vic police do not believe he was connected with the incident
* The driver is 32 years of age and had mionor [sic] interactions with Vic police over driving offences and a minor assault in 2010.
* Police confirm they are investigating impairment in relation to the offenders driving and are still following through with those.
* Police only became aware of this male as a result of his conduct in driving and running down the pedestrians
* The car was not stolen but registered to a family member.
* polcie [sic] say it is not apt to describe it as a ‘lone wolf’ incident.
“This is an act of evil and an act of cowardice and one I am sure which will be condemned by all Victorians,” Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews.
* Police say driver has a history of drug use and mental health issues.
* Police believe it is a deliberate act
* Second man arrested at the scene was filing [sic] the incident and had a bag containing knives
* “At this time we don’t have any evidence or intelligence eto [sic] establish a connection with terrorism.”
* The driver of the vehicle, a 32-year-old man, was arrested by an off-duty male police officer shortly after followed by general duties police and members from the Critical Incident Response Team (CIRT).
* The officer sustained shoulder and hand injuries during the arrest and has been conveyed to hospital.
* The driver has been taken to hospital under police guard.
* The second person arrested, a 24-year-old man, was arrested by CIRT.
* It’s now believed he had no links to the incident, however he is still assisting police with enquiries.
* Nineteen pedestrians were injured during the incident and conveyed to hospital.
* Two people were also treated for non-collision related injuries.
* At this time police believe this is a deliberate act, however it is only early in the investigation.
A vehicle attack on a busy pedestrian crossing in Melbourne’s Flinders Street which left 19 people in hospital was the work of a mentally ill drug addict, police believe.
The Australian understands the attack, which occurred at 4.41pm in the heart of downtown Melbourne, is not being treated as terrorism.
Rather, the driver is thought to be a mentally ill man with a history of addiction to the drug ice.
It is understood he has no known links to extremism and is not known to counter-terrorism authorities.
A second man pictured arrested at the scene was unconnected to the attack, The Australian has been told.
Police have said publicly the attack was deliberate but that the driver’s motive remained unknown….
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92 Comments
6 years ago
THE TRUCK OF PEACE HAS ARRIVED WHOOP WHOOOP
6 years ago
Unfortunately the Australian and Victorian governments pityfull and cowardly attitude will only encourage these sort of attacks. The perpetrator isn’t even in prison he is in hospital enjoying all the hospital perks like drugs lots of drugs.
6 years ago
Reply to
Tom Validakis
Left/Liberals are bowing down so much they are well on their way to creating more humgoats http://bit.ly/2iMxEZt
And call it cultural diversity !
6 years ago
Authorities… “we have no idea what was the motive to mow down scores of pedestrians… what we do know; this act has NOTHING to do with Islam. ” So obvious… Mohammad never did used a truck or car as a weapon against the unbeliever.
6 years ago
“Police have said publicly …..that the driver’s motive remained unknown….”
Police need to be told publicly that the driver’s motive is OBVIOUS.
6 years ago
In Israel if a person is guilty of a terror attack that person’s house is demolished.
6 years ago
Reply to
Michael Copeland
In CANADA we give them millions of dollars and a house.
Thanks to (shiny pony) Turdeau.
6 years ago
Reply to
0349 JAT
Yes … “Come on home .. we welcome you with open arms and great love … come back, we’ll but you in the front of the line for taxpayer provided benefits … and the best public housing that is available …. says Little Potato, the Prime Minister of The New Sweden.
6 years ago
Reply to
Michael Copeland
I thought Israel had suspended that policy thanks to the whining, corrupt, craven, leftist atheists who run the dying West?
D
6 years ago
The driver also has historical assault charges from 2010 and more recent driving offences to his name,…
What is his name? Does he have a name?
The talking head at one of the links used the phrase “yet again” with respect to the attack. Yet again, another attack by a nameless, know mentally ill, “afghan”.
It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas….la di bleeping da.
6 years ago
U.S. Mass Media towing the Democrat Party line as written by DNC Staff writers in coverage of this News Story not mentioning the man was a Muslim calling him a man with a known history of drug arrests and mentally unstable.
D
6 years ago
Not terrorism, Islam is what this was. Islam needs to be called out as a definition for terrorism, honor killing, rape, etc…. in Islam these are just normal daily acts defined as johad.
6 years ago
Reply to
Nefarious420
Absolutely, Nefarious420. This was simply a case of a moslem bein’ a moslem. They’re ALL the same.
6 years ago
Reply to
Nefarious420
Left/Liberal/feminazis will impose sharia everywhere if there is no resistance to such stupidity.
Just like they banning a white Model on Instagram for being too hot and sexy http://bit.ly/2v09Kyv
CAN IT get more Ridiculous ?
6 years ago
Just as an Australian was stabbed to death in Sweden.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-21/australian-man-stabbed-to-death-in-sweden/9278632
6 years ago
Reply to
Millionmileman
It was suicide … don’t believe your lyin’ eyes.
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With apologies to the deceased, but the dude moved to Sweden. Which makes him mentally ill or mentally deficient. Not that that justifies murdering him, but it is likely he was not taking reasonable precautions.
6 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
No kidding, who in their right mind would move to Swedenistan? Or really, anywhere in Northwestern Eurapia? I wonder what Burma is like. I wonder if they take immigrants from the dying atheist West?
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Australia is in De Nile which I thought flows through CAIRO, Egypt!
6 years ago
More Muslims are abandoning their worthless religion thanks to these evil losers.
6 years ago
I’m ok with labeling Islam as a “mental disorder”. Politicians might be onto something.
6 years ago
Reply to
Phil McDonald
No, mohammedanism is not a mental disorder. Rather, it is a grouping of the vilest of ALL creatures .. lower than rats and cockroaches … the vilest of ALL creatures.
6 years ago
‘mental health issues’ … that’s an excuse not a cause. It’s offered as deflection, and it’s a lie.
It’s simple to sort it: How many Christians and Jews have ‘mental health issues?’ But few of them kill in the name of Jesus or Jehovah. If they do flip out, they are likely to commit domestic violence, murder family, or … as has happened many times … they will attack Christians or Jews. The vast majority do not go Postal, and when they do, they do not attack minorities or Muslims.
And yes, I know of a few exceptions – but only due to being a 60 year news junkie. I would dare say every exception has been spewed across the globe by the enemedia during my lifetime. Meanwhile I know many, many ‘crazies’ – and most are ‘mostly harmless’ as the Hitchhiker’s guide says.
6 years ago
Reply to
Dan Knight
Obviously, if this guy was a Church goer or had anything on his person or in his apartment to tie him to the Right or the Fake-Right, the whole planet would know it by now.
‘Not knowing…’ blah, blah, blah is virtually proof it is a Muslim practicing his religion.
At this point, it is more predictable than the sunrise.
6 years ago
Breathtaking and willful blindness to reality. A Muslim of Afghan descent + driving a vehicle into a crowd as encouraged by IS and already seen in London, Berlin, Nice, Stockholm and New York + at the time of Christian celebration. But can’t possibly be terrorism. It’s impossible to understand these desperate attempts to “whitewash” any connection with Islam when the evidence is there for all to see.
6 years ago
The only “mental health issues” here are in the minds of the supposed authorities who are totally failing in their primary elected role: to PROTECT the people. Most of us have been waiting for this and the only variable was not who(a muslim) but when and where in the west. none so blind as those that will not see. Ohh I would love to see a western government obsessed with protecting their own people come what may(Trump is still hamstrung) which was what they mostly did up to 1960 before oil politics entered the scene.
6 years ago
Reply to
Michelle
Thanks to (shiny pony) Turdeau.
We will see this kind of crap in CANADA soon.
6 years ago
Reply to
Michelle
Oil politics and the alternative/hippy culture that melted the mind and is directly responsible for the pc culture that we are witnessing coming from the police force.
6 years ago
Why didn’t the driver plow the car into a Mosque? Because he was targeting white Christians.== Terrorist attack.
6 years ago
6 years ago
Reply to
SB
He was probably just a knife salesman who had hitched a ride with the wrong man.
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
He was a sous chef, that had finally saved up the 400 AUD, per knife (high quality knives do not come cheap), and was on his way back to the restaurant. Just a harmless little shopping trip.
6 years ago
“The driver of the car was known to police…” Here we go again. If the police in every country, simply went after everyone they already know to be trouble, how long would it take before these types of attacks slowed down significantly. But, because there is some other larger agenda afoot here, that will never happen.
6 years ago
Well they need to ban cars or Muslim refugees…. So Trump was wright
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6 years ago
They are almost all mentally ill, and have substance abuse issues, so that excuse can almost always be used.
6 years ago
It didn’t take very long for the authorities to claim that this had nothing to do with terrorism.
Are they all brain dead?
Surely the people of Melbourne can see past this PC BS.
6 years ago
How stupid can the police get? If they didn’t use mental issues every time a muslim commits a crime, they might get away with it occasionally. But, as it is the standard press release form the cops issue whenever a muslim commits a crime, it has been worn thin . Deport him and be done with it.
6 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
Are all the people emigrating from JP now the dead wood of Japanese society? Is it social darwinism in action, thus making for a stronger JP in the future (as long as you keep out the corrupt, craven, cowards of the dying atheist West)?
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
If I am typical, then I guess so. Japanese culture remains Japanese, alien influence is incorporated, it does not replace,
6 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
I’ve read 12 to 15 hour work days are commonplace in JP? So do they only work a 4-day work week?
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Nope, 8 day weeks are common, though falling out of popularity, I am told.
6 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
LOL. Does that include the Japanese snow monkeys too? Because they always seem to be relaxed, contemplative and meditating on the wisdom of Lord Buddha:
http://www.punipunijapan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/snow-monkey-group.jpg
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
They have been around longer than people, they get away with it.
6 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
They seem highly civilised. No scat throwing tantrums and screaming for them.
6 years ago
Looks like AUS is down with the sickness that has infected the rest of the dying atheist West.
Long live Burma and their brave Buddhists!
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Here here!!!
They are the only nation to take the bull by the horns and say enough is enough! Now get the fk out of my country once and for all.
PROSCRIBE ISLAM!
6 years ago
Just like the F-I_b denies that Paddock converted to islum and was killing for the Islamic State.
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Never once, has isis laid claim to a terrorist mass murder/murderer that has not been true. I highly doubt that this would be the first time. He became a moslem and it was a moslem.
6 years ago
Reply to
Achmed
I think the F-I_b and State Department should be defunded and disbanded. They can’t be trusted anymore they’re nothing but a nest of traitors and muslum collaborators.
I think the only solution to the obviously corrupt US federal government is a Seven Days in May solution — with a different ending.
6 years ago
Yes, I don’t know why Melbourne bothers to pay for a police force. Even Pam half a planet away, can solve crimes instantly. What would police at the scene know? Perhaps Pam can apply her talents to convict the numerous parking infringements , red light running and littering offences that plague us. I’m sure the person I saw throwing a cigarette butt from his car window shouted Allah Akbar as he did it. Save us from this Pam. Or should I say Save us from thi spam.
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
Why do Botany Bay Rejects even bother having police .. they’re all moslem loving, moslem worshipping islamophiliacs.
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
If you think your puerile attempts to discount this news story are going anywhere Abdullah Al Arsehat you’re wrong and I hope some day you and your ilk are dead wrong.
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
You must be under the delusion that adults are concerned aboút your children’s tantrums.I’d suggest you stick with computer games and on line porn . At least someone will find satisfaction.
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Well, well what a clever word you’ve invented. So you don’t need porn eh, What just a mirror or what ever comes to “Hand”?
6 years ago
Reply to
Ed Nantes
Oh I must have mistaken your wife for your sister. I always knew you had a close muslum family.
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
As I never had a sister you are probably thinking of your mother. My dog asked me to pass on his regards to her and recalls fond memories of a night with her. Do you have a tail, you may be a related to him.
6 years ago
In China, they would just take him and *****t him. END of story. END of terror.
6 years ago
Jesus wept again
6 years ago
Yeah, no..that’s an act of ‘friendlyism’.
6 years ago
Reply to
shaongaon
Bwahahahahahahahaha. Brilliant. You should be working for the enemedia or a spokesman for the Victoria PD.
6 years ago
Today on ABC radio here in Aus’ this mornimg it was mentioned briefly in a report that the driver told police he did it in revenge of Muslim treatment elsewhere in the world..
I haven’t seen read or heard this repeated anywhere else as of now.
6 years ago
Reply to
ply313
I heard this on TV today too. Something to the effect that he said it was ‘because of the bad treatment of muslims’. The perpetual victim needs to get his facts straight! Bet his mother can tell you what a goooood boy he is, wouldn’t hurt a fly, such a nice lad!
6 years ago
News reports should read.
Muslim man deliberately mows down pedestrians. He has a history of Islam drug abuse and mental health concerns.
6 years ago
Reply to
michaelofsydney
Unfortunately, most news reports are afraid of the truth, and of being accused of “bigotry”.
6 years ago
Reply to
VoiceInDesert
No mate it’s a Lefist agenda. The Islamists and the Left are both supporting themselves for their own ends. If Turnball and his weak kneed cronies don’t get their guts up and shelve this PC madness then this country is stuffed. I do not have anything against LBG but look at what happened to the pre marriage vote. The Left, atheists and anarchists took over and we had violence in the streets, people being sacked from their jobs because the came out and said No, there were disappointments on committees around the country, aka Margaret Court from the Cottesloe Tennis Club, threats, abuse, PC conning, by so called TV celebrities and a main steam media eg ABC that lies through their teeth so that the anchors can get invited to all the best elitist home parties. You know the ones I’m talking about the celebrity bashes, the Judges Clubs, The Academia Award nights, ohh and don’t forget the open invitation to all the best restaurants and the coffee cafes around Nedlands, Subiaco, Fremantle, Toorack, Genferrie, Prahran, Lyon St, Bondi, Nth Sydney, Manley, ose Bay etc etc etc . You can forget SA as they have done what the SOVIETS did a while back and blew everything uo that was good for the people so that the people could not resurrect them a again. If you thing that this is only the beginning, the THINK again. Whats next lawful child Female Mutilation, the lowering of the age of consent, Polygamy, Bestiality ???? The Gay Marriage thing was used by the Left to attack the Nuclear Family Institution as it has done since the 80’s with Hawke and Keating. THAT is what the Left want to do bring down our institutions and they are using the help of Islamist. Question – When have you ever heard a leftist come out against Islams terrorists activities / I think you will be hard pressed to find one. The same goes for Islamist’s coming out against the Leftists never heard of one.
Finally this Govt should tell the EU socialists to stick that Kyoto so called agreement where the sun bloody does not shine. Has anybody even checked to see the EU countries emissions ? skyrocketing after KYoto. All Kyoto was designed for was to bring the USA economy down and then have a stronger EU. Do you know that 90% of the anthropological input of so called Global Warming which is total BS is from the Northern hemisphere that really cant be measured accurately because they are using models that can NOT even remake our past climate even with so may KNOWN historical facts. Australia’s man caused emissions are so negligible they cant even take accurate measurements. WHY are we even in Kyota and other like Global Warming Scams. Parliamentarians IN DEFENCE OF THEIR BLUNDERS reiterate, promises and obligations made to other countries the backdown of which MIGHT upset a few people, LMAO, what a very very bad joke on Australia.WHAT ABOUT THE WELFARE OF THEIR OWN COUNTY. IN THE MEAN TIME WE HAVE STALIISTS BLOWING UP POWER STATIONS ???? Do you really thing that is an act of a SANE Government.
6 years ago
Reply to
Peter Evans
Can’t disagree with you, friend. Of course, you know more about Australia than I do, as well as the surrounding nations. With our new leader in the USA (northern hemisphere), we have at least a brief respite. Merry Christmas to you, and a blessed New Year!
6 years ago
Reply to
Peter Evans
The rot has set in since the end of the 1960s. Time to cut out the cancer of The Islamic / leftie liberal alliance.
It’s gonna be a long hard graft!
Trump could be the catalyst followed by civil wars worldwide.
The sooner the better.
PROSCRIBE ISLAM!
6 years ago
With regard to this over-used excuse of mental illness.
The mental illness excuse so loved by the useless authorities, it may well be that it has become a preferred modus operandi by those planning terror attacks, so that they seek treatment for ‘mental illness’ well ahead of their planned terror attack, perfect cover, short incarceration, soon free to do more damage. How they must laugh at our stupidity.
6 years ago
cover it up. islam is peaceful, and so is isis. it sure looks like terrorism to me, and the second guy only had 3 knives, omg, what is going on with the governments of the world, those who swear to protect and defend. mental illness, yes Islamic followers have to be mentally ill to follow such a horrid belief, but they know what they are doing. terrorist acts are also hate crimes.
6 years ago
Police cannot confirm if the man driving the vehicle was an Afghan refugee or born in Australia.
A lie. This man is a terrorist from Afghanistan. Period. and a murderer of innocent people for Allah
6 years ago
If it was me, I would label ALL attacks as terrorism first. If they are proven not to be then change the charges. But that’s just me.
6 years ago
what happened to the pictures of the 2 scumbag terrorists???? they were posted and now they are gone.
6 years ago
Reply to
Choice America
That figures, they (muzrats) are a protected species. The way this game is playing out is quite bizarre, it is the voluntary suicide of the West aided and abetted by those we have elected to protected us. Those that want protection will one day realise that that the only option will be to do it themselves.
6 years ago
THIS WAS TERRORISM.
The FBI looks to the Code of Federal Regulations definition: “The unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”
6 years ago
Wake up! This is part of the world wide Jihad.
Many jihadi Muslims have previous drug/alcohol abuse and have been known criminals.
Embarking on jihad is (as they stupidly see it) a way of cleansing their souls and be forgiven for their sins.
I would bet the man filming would have used the footage as propaganda to inspire other would be jihadis.
The police know this and are afraid that the people will see them as the useless pawns that they have become and take the law into their own hands.
There’s nothing more a government fears more than a people who are ungovernable.
PROSCRIBE ISLAM!
6 years ago
Why is this muzrat scumbag that has a history of drugs and crime allowed to live in Australia? the animal should have been deported to his shithole of a birthplace long before he decided he wanted to claim his 72 virgins with the death of innocent Aussies.
6 years ago
How stupid does the Victoria PD think people are? The people of Melbourne should be demanding the resignations/firings of all the senior leadership of the Victoria PD and if the city council of Melbourne is unwilling to do so, a recall election to have their asses thrown out into the street and replaced w/politicians who reflect the will of the people rather than muslum petrodollars.
6 years ago
The DSMV missed out on a new diagnosis – Stockholm Secondary Syndrome – that is non-hostages reaching out to their abusers with mind-numbing love. Perhaps they should hold a reunion where they can all meet next year.
