[ April 19, 2024 ]
More of the joys that Muslim immigration brings. And apparently Der Führer Merkel can’t get enough.
“Under the law changes announced this morning, the use of Preventative Detention Orders — when a person is detained without charge, because of fears of an imminent threat — will be extended to 14-year-olds, down from the age of 16.”
Victoria plans terror law changes as Melbourne’s CBD gets permanent bollards and planters
As if jihadis only target pedestrian footpaths. No war was ever won on the defense.
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Children as young as 14 could be held for questioning by Victorian police under proposed law changes, as the Victorian Government responds to a review of the state’s counter-terrorism measures.
ABC News, November 19, 2017 (thanks to Jill):
The Victorian Government has also revealed new permanent security features are being built in Melbourne’s CBD to prevent terrorist attacks, as part of a $10 million CBD upgrade.
Under the law changes announced this morning, the use of Preventative Detention Orders — when a person is detained without charge, because of fears of an imminent threat — will be extended to 14-year-olds, down from the age of 16.
Suspects under 16 will be able to be held for 36 hours before police are required to apply for an order from the Supreme Court to detain them further.
Under changes announced earlier in the year, adults will be able to be held for up to four days.
Premier Daniel Andrews used the case of radicalised teenager Farhad Mohammad, who shot and killed NSW police accountant Curtis Cheng, to demonstrate why the laws were necessary.
“These are very real issues,” Mr Andrews said.
“We have seen … people as young as 14 posing a significant risk to community safety.
“It would be a terrible failure if to protect the notional civil liberties of a very small number of people we put at risk the safety of a much larger group of people. Indeed, potentially tens of thousands of people.”
The changes were recommended by former police chief Ken Lay and former Supreme Court justice David Harper, who reviewed Victoria’s counter-terrorism laws after a deadly siege in Brighton earlier this year.
It was the second report from the pair and included 26 recommendations in total. The Andrews Government said it accepted all 26 in principle.
Other recommendations include:
- Enabling the Police Commissioner to apply for court orders to force people to take part in “disengagement programs” if they display radical or violent behaviour
- Talking to the Commonwealth and other states about removing motive as an essential element of the definition of a terrorist act
- Working with federal authorities to introduce a new offence for possession of terrorism-related material
- Seeking agreement with other states for a national post-sentence supervision scheme for high-risk offenders
The first report, released in September, recommended police be given stronger shoot-to-kill protections.
Mr Lay said the second report also looked at dealing with left and right-wing extremism.
“As we all understand, there’s been a real focus on Islamic extremism in recent times, but the [review] panel saw a gap in the right and left-wing space,” he said.
“To properly protect the community and understand the risks, research needs to be done in that space.”
Mr Lay said more work was needed to understand the effects Islamophobia has had on the Muslim community.
Police powers will ‘undermine’ deradicalisation efforts
Barrister Rob Stary, who has represented many terrorism suspects, said the State Government had failed to demonstrate how the laws would prevent terrorism.
“I’ve been working for almost 40 years and I can’t think of a single instance where preventative detention of 14-year-old child is appropriate,” he said.
“The State Government is essentially a populist law and order government, I’m sorry to say.”
Criminologist Clarke Jones from Australian National University, who works with at-risk children in conservative Muslim communities, backed Mr Stary’s concerns.
“The greater the exposure to the criminal justice system the greater likelihood of reoffending,” he said.
Dr Jones said the new police powers would undermine efforts to work with community groups to counter violent extremism.
“In one sense you have these preventative community outreach strategies and then you’ve got policies where you want to detain them and lock them up.
“They sort of work against each other.”
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32 Comments
6 years ago
Muslims in Australia demand right to create humgoats and have multiple wives http://bit.ly/2iMxEZt
Its True , sick and Hilarious.
6 years ago
Muslim Cleric calls Australian Women ‘Uncovered Meat’ . -Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali, the nation’s most senior Muslim cleric, was condoning rape.
Australian women are to blame for Islamic rapes.? Uncovered Meat is the problem ?
6 years ago
Reply to
taxpayer22
islam and muslims are always the victims, no matter what happens or who does it, muslims will insist they are innocent, even when caught in criminal acts like rape and murder. islam is based on lies, never forget that.
6 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
In every country that Muslims are a minority, they are obsessed with minority rights.
In every country with a Muslim majority, there are NO minority rights.
6 years ago
Reply to
taxpayer22
The southern end of Bondi Beach is about as uncovered as you could hope for
6 years ago
This proposed action is alright as far as it goes, but it doesn’t go far enough, what about post conviction, what about charging kids with criminal offences reserved for adults, when starting on this track, you have to be prepared to state your case, support it and see it through, peoples lives depend on it.
As in Europe and UK, the concept of forced external exile somewhere very cold and dark six months of the year and not subject to appeal or interference from SJW types in Parliament is becoming ever more attractive.
6 years ago
Every muslim or sympathizer of any age should be subject to any degree of investigation, if there is any suspicion of terrorist or primal activity. islam is criminally insane treason against any nation it infests. No restrictions on the destruction of islam.
6 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
THAT I like, Mahou: “No restrictions on the destruction of Islam.” Period. Destroy it. And destroy those who adhere to it — as the Koran instructs its followers to kill non-believers wherever they find them, so, too: kill Muslims wherever we find them. It is getting to that point — or perhaps we are long past that point. This is the enemy we are up against, clearly at war with all non-believers, and who very much intend for our deaths.
6 years ago
Reply to
Michael Buley
muslims follow the qur’an to the letter, everywhere there are muslims, there is criminally insane violence and murder. islam does not try and conceal that, it is clear from reading the qur’an that tolerance and negotiation are not part of islam. islam is a is a death cult, for everyone including its members.
6 years ago
Reply to
Michael Buley
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6 years ago
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6 years ago
“possession of terrorism-related material”
Would that include a book instructing “Strike terror into their hearts …strike the neck….Kill them wherever you find them”?
6 years ago
Reply to
Michael Copeland
just … possibly … could … be … something like that! Some ‘k’ book … but wait! Don’t say the “M” word! Do NOT say “Muslim”, you Islamophobe! Do NOT actually identify the people and the ideology and the source book for all of it!
6 years ago
I don’t understand why one’s age matters. If a 12-year-old kills you, you’re no less dead than if a 21-year-old kills you.
6 years ago
Reply to
caliroxanne
And these kids may well be trained from 4 and 5 years old to kill, behead, shoot, cut throats. We know it goes on. 14 isn’t young enough; ANY Muslim should be ‘held for questioning.’ ANY Muslim should be deported back to the hellholes from where they came.
6 years ago
Reply to
caliroxanne
Yes, Daesh and al-Qaeda have sadly used very young militants as martyrs in their operations in the past.
6 years ago
Barrister Stery: ““The State Government is essentially a populist law and order government, I’m sorry to say.”
Yes, they want law and order. Crack downs. Criminals caught, punished, imprisoned, kicked out. They want the Muslim crime wave to stop.
Those populists who want law and order … terrible people … lol …
6 years ago
We must remember that these kids are raised for jihad, raised to kill. Their greatest honor is to kill non-believers. They may look innocent, and they are the enemy. Mothers raise their kids to wage jihad — i.e., kill.
6 years ago
Reply to
Michael Buley
Are you talking about obozo’s “widows and orphans” coming to Europe and US by the hundreds of thousands?
Let’s provide them with a Teddy Bears and hugs.
6 years ago
Reply to
tatka150
Yes, those work well, and they are always touched by the candles and vigils. You can just feel the Muslims ‘moderating’ as the teddy bears are handed out …
6 years ago
One of the leftist myths that drown us is the “innocence of childhood”. As a child I witnessed and was the victim in some acts of unbelievable cruelty committed by children off their own bat and with no ideological hate programing. I wont recount them but anyone who has been at the mercy of an 8YO with an AK looks death in the eye I can assure you. Innocence in children is largely the product of classical middle class sheltering of the child and while its product is heart warming the child’s ability to cope is the real world is being undermined. The streetwise children are those best suited to survive in their environment and they can be as cruel and mercenary as any adult, but they WILL survive My father recounts the child pimp aged about 5 who repeatedly asked him “Hey boss!! want my sister? She is 10 and has ***s and can etc.” After no response the kid sighed and said: “Hey boss! You want me?” This is the REAL world for most of the world’s children not the crap on TV. Paedophilia was the NORM up to WW2 in the whole world including the west as the small people children did what they had to do to survive. The naïve, innocent child is a product of the Victorian school of fairy tales and the resultant middle class sheltering of children and their survivak index is poor at best.
6 years ago
Don’t kid yourself. They will USE the law against Christians and white hooligans. Yes, down to 14 years olds. Megroes and Moslems need not apply.
6 years ago
Reply to
Alleged-Comment
Unfortunately you are so correct as Australia does not even recognize islam as a motivation for violence.
6 years ago
Can’t you just hear Merkel’s imitation of another cheap politician from the US with whom we are all familiar, “I’m going to fundamentally transform Germany”?
6 years ago
It’s about time you Aussies got your heads out of your arses! Next item: change the law so you may (again) possess firearms for your own protection. Civil war is fast approaching, and all you have is rocks and cricket bats.
6 years ago
The problem is islam, until nations are willing to state the truth and to outlaw islam the terrorism will continue. islam is oppression and death and it is working it’s evil on all nations now. Freedom is being sacrificed and oppression implemented so that islam can be spread via muslims into what were once free nations, Christian nations.
6 years ago
“Countering violent extremism” the word salad to obfuscate the fact muslums are the terrorist threat and the problem.
6 years ago
As much as I despise terrorism, it also pains me to see what Western governments have been pushed to do because of it. We should be sacrificing our freedoms and liberties for the sake of combating terror, or else its perpetrators have in a way already won.
