NY Times ISIS expert does a 180, thinks Vegas slaughter might be ISIS after all

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Rukmini Callimachi, New York Times ISIS correspondent is having second thoughts about the Islamic State’s involvement in the Las Vegas attack. It appears increasingly to point in that direction and it would be a stunning indictment of the FBI’s nonchalant dismissal of their claims. Knowing what we know about the FBI’s involvement in the Garland Texas jihad attacks and the Boston plot to behead me, the kindest thing I can say about them is that they cannot be trusted.

On Twitter, the New York Times ISIS reporter is having second thoughts:

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After ISIS claimed Vegas, I was waiting for them to release Naba, their weekly newsletter, to see if anything new emerged. Naba is out:

Under a picture of the Mandalay Bay drenched in blood they rehash the attack. New info: They are now claiming shooter converted 6 mos ago. Below is the @siteintelgroup translation. ISIS earlier said shooter converted “months ago.” Now they’re saying it was 6 mos specifically.

No proof is provided, but ISIS has rarely claimed attacks that were not by either their members or sympathizers. ISIS members meanwhile are pointing out that after ISIS downed Metrojet over Sinai, no one believed them:

In their chatrooms, they are claiming that the West and the media is leading a cover-up in order to hide the “martyrdom” of their brother

I don’t take ISIS’ claim at face value. And so far, 0 evidence tying this attack to ISIS has emerged.
But here’s why I disagree with those rejecting it out of hand. I’ve been covering ISIS since 2014 and since then I have kept a timeline

Everytime ISIS claimed an attack in West, I jotted it down. Month later, I’ve gone back over list & annotated what investigation found

My list is not complete but of the more than 50 cases I have annotated, I could only find 3 false claims.

Yes, the group frequently exaggerates death tolls & yes, they inflate & distort details, but the crux of the claim is typically correct

The thing to understand is ISIS considers an attack to be their handiwork if the attacker is sent by them or if he is inspired by them.

The reason I don’t buy argument that they are now opportunistically claiming attacks to deflect from battlefield losses is as follows

Remember the Thalys train shouting? They never claimed it. Attacker shared a hotel room with Abdlehamid Abaaoud, leader of Paris attack

Remember the attack on the Jewish Museum in Brussels? Attacker was 1 of ISIS’ jailers who held European hostages. Yet they never claimed

Do you remember the devastating attack on the Istanbul airport last year? Investigation determined it was ISIS. Again they did not claim

And 1 day before Vegas on Saturday, a guy who’d placed ISIS flag on his car’s dashboard used it to ram police. Did ISIS claim it? Nope

Does this mean ISIS had a role in Vegas? There is as yet 0 evidence of that. My point: This group has been more right than its been wrong
Given ISIS’ insistence, I’m with @AmarAmarasingam: Have any reporters asked Paddock’s brother and other family members if he converted?



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Fabrice DeMilo
Fabrice DeMilo
6 years ago

Again, consider the source. Name ONE 64 year old mass murdering jihadi over all the attacks since 9/11.

Loyd Beasely II
Loyd Beasely II
6 years ago
Reply to  Fabrice DeMilo

While it is true that theoretically almost anyone could be a jihadi, they have left some definite patterns. Your reasoning seems sound to me.

JPL17
JPL17
6 years ago
Reply to  Fabrice DeMilo

OK, I’ll bite: Name ONE 64 year old mass murdering NON-jihadi over all the attacks since 9/11.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Fabrice DeMilo

There was a guy who shot up a Jewish community centre he was definitely middle-aged or older.

Patti York
Patti York
6 years ago

ah she is using critical thought processes, watch them fire her.

AR154U☑ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ DEPLORABLE 2020
AR154U☑ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ DEPLORABLE 2020
6 years ago

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sodacrackers2
sodacrackers2
6 years ago

Now that’s a scary thought!

Steve
Steve
6 years ago

An addicted personality is perfect for hypno brainwashing therapy to be the latest manchurian. That guy that went after scalise was probably one too. It’s all been done before by CIA or others like them.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

The lame stream media are lying even when they are lying, no point in reading the gibberish they see fit to print.

DVader
DVader
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

The alternative media has never been known to be wrong or exaggerate, of course…

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago

Agree. Its Left/Liberal corrupt media, bureaucrats on payroll of saudi/qataris who are doing what they can to suppress the truth.

The result is what sweden is facing today they attack police and firemen who go into their sharia zones http://bit.ly/2gTuUw2

Ignorance is No Bliss when dealing with Islam.

Richard Harris
Richard Harris
6 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

The thing about ISIS is that, although it may be a sick, vicious, maniacal, evil group…..in general…they are pretty honest about what they do and believe. I believe this attack was somehow related to ISIS. For this guy Paddock (and he most likely had Leftist/ISIS helpers) to have all this top notch military gear in his room and tons of it…..it showed he had help from a major terrorist organization like ISIS.

I believe the authorities and media are AFRAID of letting the public know about ISIS’s success in the US and KNOW the other ISIS people who carried out this attack are STILL on the loose! This is why the authorities and most of the media are not saying this is an ISIS related attack.

It was interesting when about a year ago, the (Fake) Pope came out and said that “Real Islam is not violent and terrorist”….and then ISIS quickly refuted the Pope and cursed him out saying….”NO you stupid Pope, REAL ISLAM is ALL ABOUT TERRORIZING non-Muslims!”. I hate to say it, but I agree with ISIS on this and I believe ISIS is pretty honest about most things.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  Richard Harris

I don’t know that I would go so far as to use the word “honest” but the trend among these gaggles of lunatics is that they very rarely take credit for someone else’s mayhem. However, like you, the breadth, depth, and granular detail of the planning is sending up more red flags for me than a Chinese office building. Like my granddad used to say, “One man can’t think of everything.”

Steve
Steve
6 years ago
Reply to  Richard Harris

You may as well add that all serial killers are honestly insane and they will kill you to prove it.

Mary
Mary
6 years ago

For more on this see Amir Tsarfati on youtube. Just type in his name, and “Las Vegas Massacre” and that should get you the right video.

shershark69
shershark69
6 years ago

some idiot the day prior has ISIS flag on his dashboard and uses his car as a weapon towards the police, wtf !!! ady says your all gonna die, wtf ! RADICALIZED

brock marks
brock marks
6 years ago

this is what happens when u let the liberal media demonize trump and his supporters, unchecked and wave severed heads of trump and call it comedy. first this guy is a leftist, possible antifa member, then he was recruited by an isis sympathizer to kill trump supporters. the jihad is working wonderfully, they will be grabbing guns next and use this as an excuse to pry into law abiding citizens. never register ur guns people… registration = confiscation

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  brock marks

If that is the case, send them into the killing fields in south Chicago.

Lee Sargeant
Lee Sargeant
6 years ago

Our MSM are afraid to ask the family if he converted. The moslems are all of the same ilk – follow the same murdering thug, pedo pervert – Mohamed – Islam’s ‘perfect example’ who was a terrorist, slaver, pedophile, rapist, liar, torturer, and just an all around puke.

Anon
Anon
6 years ago

Only Islam has that kind of demonic effect over an individual and I’m inclined to believe the shooter did convert as no sane person of his age would ever embark on such an elaborate plot towards a horrendous killing spree.

ladywarrior
ladywarrior
6 years ago
Reply to  Anon

He was Antifa….they use the exact same tactics as Islam and the Mexican Cartels….Antifa is now proudly announcing that violence is the only way to go…..and they proved it during the last election….with money from Killary and Soros. There is no difference now in Antifa and Islamic terrorists…..

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago

Who reads the New York Times? And what are the qualifications for being an expert? There aren’t any.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

There is zero evidence that the shooter converted to islum, but has law enforcement released all the data they have? Will they EVER do so? Or is it cover-up time?

Richard Harris
Richard Harris
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Sadly, it looks like it’s cover-up time…..and or… “DON’T SCARE THE HELL out of the public that ISIS really did this and is still out there” time.

ladywarrior
ladywarrior
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Maybe not….but Antifa has been co-opting Muslim and Mexican Cartel methods…..and they aren’t through yet. We could cut off their funding by arresting their chief financiers in Hillary and Soros by arresting both of them and freezing all their assets.
Soros has a dual citizenship with America and Hungary…..time to cancel his American citizenship for his sedition and inciting to riot. Time to arrest Killary for her crimes against America.
There are four countries now that have banned Soros. Russia has an arrest warrant out for him….I think it’s time that Trump and Putin have a little talk about trading Soros for one of ours…..

Jim Austin
Jim Austin
6 years ago

In pushing for more tolerance and indulgence of ISIS atrocities, Obama once told us not to get on our “high horse” about ISIS burning people alive. If liberal start acknowledging ISIS involvement in the recent Las Vegas shooting, it certainly isn’t that they’re willing to countenance significant action that would inconvenience them.

Don_in_Odessa
Don_in_Odessa
6 years ago

Motive??? That’s easy, using the propagandizing, deductive reasoning of the the lying mainstream media these days, it’s obvious the man was a Liberal terrorist. His target was a group of mostly white country music fans. A mostly conservative leaning group. If it walks like a duck, if it talks like a duck and finally if it looks like a duck then it’s a damned duck.

Richard Harris
Richard Harris
6 years ago
Reply to  Don_in_Odessa

Yes and with all of the Media’s Leftist hate propaganda against White people…especially against White Conservative/Pro-America people……it doesn’t take much to make a brainwashed Leftist to then go into ISIS mode.

ladywarrior
ladywarrior
6 years ago
Reply to  Richard Harris

It was Antifa….who have recently been linked to Muslims and Mexican Cartels……they’ve started adopting their tactics….but the Deep State run by the Muslim/Marxist Obama from a mansion within sight of the White House will do everything to not let us know the truth.

The mental derangement of the Far Left/Deep state is going to get worse….when we snatched away the last chance they had to Globalize America under the criminal Clintons…..they went absolutely Postal…..

Joan Galt
Joan Galt
6 years ago
Reply to  Richard Harris

We are all white supremacists now.

ladywarrior
ladywarrior
6 years ago

I believe it was Antifa….inspired and aided by Muslim factions in this country. And, I would look long and hard at that Filipino girlfriend….the Philippines have been inundated with Muslims…..and we never heard anymore about the pilot that left there and took his passengers into the Indian Ocean….

Patti York
Patti York
6 years ago
Reply to  ladywarrior

I think so too. I am willing to bet it was Antifa’s opening salvo.

BeatrizV
BeatrizV
6 years ago

Leftist MSM media will confirm he POS shooter was ISIS to cover the fact that he was antifa activist.

poortaxpayerwindsor
poortaxpayerwindsor
6 years ago

isis is obama’s
obama is isis
isis has more credibility then the obama corrupted FBI- sad

wilypagan
wilypagan
6 years ago

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3663447/ISIS-makes-chilling-threats-against-San-Francisco-Las-Vegas-sickening-video-praise-Orlando-nightclub-shooter.html

The Las Vegas massacre was planned and announced last year. Get with it, Keystone cops. The US needs to know how badly infiltrated we are.

Robert KahlckeD
Robert Kahlcke
6 years ago

Islam is not a religion,it is a cult of males who fornicate swine.

Steve
Steve
6 years ago

WW I, WW II, JFK, RFK, MLK, Moon, Music Industry, Sports, Movies, Books, Art, Schools, Leaders, Media – lies everywhere Las Vegas is just the latest.

david7134
david7134
6 years ago

That is the point. If you bother reading their junk, they are dedicated to killing us, just like Hitler wrote about the Jews in his book. Islam is not a religion , it is a cult.

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