FBI Wipes Clean Phones & Laptops of Las Vegas Massacre Eyewitnesses

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The timeline revise, the “security guard” who wasn’t, and ISIS – the whole thing stinks to high heaven.

Report: FBI Wipes Phones & Laptops of Las Vegas Massacre Eyewitnesses

Route 91 workers get devices back with videos, messages deleted

By Paul Watson:

Workers at the Route 91 festival during which Stephen Paddock unleashed his massacre have reportedly been given back their phones and laptops by the FBI only to discover that all messages and videos from the night of the attack have been wiped clean.

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According to a Las Vegas resident who posted a status update on Facebook, “A bunch of people that worked the Route 91 said they got their cell phones back today. They all said that all their phones are completely wiped clean! All messages and info from that weekend are completely gone. Anyone else experience this?”

“A few different people who were vendors there are all saying the same thing,” the woman later comments.

Later in the thread, a Route 91 worker confirms the story, commenting, “Of course. It’s an active federal crime scene. They can wipe it clean. I was the beverage manager for the entire event. My laptop is wiped clean.”

Infowars was separately contacted by another individual who told us the same story. Both individuals asked that their names not be revealed.

The fact that all the information relating to the massacre has been deleted is sure to prompt further claims of a cover-up.

While some assert that the feds wiping data is a routine part of their investigation procedure, if authorities want to stop the many conspiracy theories circulating about the attack, they’re not doing a very good job of it.

As Ann Coulter notes, the media’s treatment of the story and the constantly changing official narrative is only serving to make people more suspicious.

“I don’t know what happened — and, apparently, neither do the cops — but it’s kind of odd that we keep being told things that aren’t true about the Las Vegas massacre, from the basic timeline to this weird insistence that Paddock made a good living at gambling,” writes Coulter.

She points to many questions that remain unanswered about the attack, including why Paddock checked in to the hotel days earlier than authorities first said he did, why he was wearing gloves if he planned to commit suicide and why Paddock chose to “unload 200 rounds into the hallway at a security guard who was checking on someone else’s room before beginning his massacre.”

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Laura Mullen
Laura Mullen
6 years ago

I can see them wanting copies of media on devices, but they had no right to
erase anything. If this is what they do, who would want to help them in the future? How did they
get devices in the 1st place?

Jim
Jim
6 years ago
Reply to  Laura Mullen

How did they get them? They were probably left behind on the festival ground by the dead, the wounded, and the fleeing people.

santashandler
santashandler
6 years ago
Reply to  Laura Mullen

There probably were also people who willingly handed them over in hopes the FBI would find and apprehend those responsible. They probably thought they were doing their civic duty.

mztore
mztore
6 years ago
Reply to  santashandler

I’m sure they were led to believe it would help apprehend someone….they were lied to as usual.

santashandler
santashandler
6 years ago
Reply to  mztore

Yep

mztore
mztore
6 years ago
Reply to  Laura Mullen

I’m sure they were all collected after the festival, from every person who admitted to being there.

AlgorithmicAnalystD
AlgorithmicAnalyst
6 years ago

You can’t make money at video poker betting $millions each night at 99.17% return odds. Essentially that means you are paying the casino more than $8000 a night. It’s hard to think of a good explanation for such behavior, except money laundering.

bikerken
bikerken
6 years ago

I gamble, just got back from Las Vegas Sunday. You’re absolutely right, except that I doubt any video poker game has anywhere near that high return odds. But you’re point is taken, he would have to have been losing tons of money every night. I don’t get this. A strong gambling habit can make a millionaire out of a billionaire in no time. I don’t understand how this guy seemingly was doing that good and where all of his money came from. This is the fishiest case I’ve seen of a mass murderer ever. And I’m starting to think that something is being covered up. I have no idea or clue as to what, but there’s a lot more going on here than the FBI is telling us.

GTKRWN
GTKRWN
6 years ago
Reply to  bikerken

Oh come now, shabbos goy. It’s purely a coincidence that the hotel room had an entire gun show full of different weapons and weapon mods that were all coincidentally on the liberal’s “Wish-List of Things We Want to Ban.” Coincidentally.

Fromafar
Fromafar
6 years ago

Video poker has published returns by Nevada law. They are THE WORST odds of all gambling games without exception.

Look it up. They return 68 cents on every dollar played. To have a significant win is to be lucky and even then, likely once.

citizenpain1
citizenpain1
6 years ago

With the story changing on a daily basis….shouldn’t they refer to Paddock as the “alleged shooter”?

livingengine
livingengine
6 years ago

There is no confirmation of this claim anywhere except from places like Infowarts. Paul Jospeh Watson has named dropped Ann Colter who has nothing to do with this assertion. I’m calling B.S. on this one.

Jim
Jim
6 years ago
Reply to  livingengine

Not a primary source in my book either.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  livingengine

In the present climate of deliberate disinformation practiced by the enemedia and law enforcement you might not ever get anything better.

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago

The killer is a Anti-Trump democrat and Antifa activist also claimed by ISIS http://bit.ly/2xb9Js2

Obama holdovers in the admin/FBI want to cover it up as it goes against their friendly criminals.

Carowal
Carowal
6 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

The alleged killer…

HardAssets
HardAssets
6 years ago

Even Trump and Sessions can’t control the FBI.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

The coverup is getting thicker, everything that has happened in the investigation points to a coverup being orchestrated.

Michael Buley
Michael Buley
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

no doubt a lot of ‘look over here’ and ‘look over there’ … oh it’s valium, oh it’s a lone wolf, oh, it’s you name it ….

The guy has a history of working for the CIA. We should always assume these events are orchestrated and a false flag. Until proven otherwise …

shades of 9-11 … videos disappearing around the Pentagon … lol …

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Buley

If the FBI could explain their statement about how Paddock shot 200 rounds through his hotel room door, only hitting an unarmed security guard one time in the leg, and then turned right around and picked off 58 people from hundreds of yards away with the same type of weapon, they would not have time to jack with other people’s electronic devices.

Chris Lewis
Chris Lewis
6 years ago

Pretty simple really. He was firing into a crowd of 20000 people. It took no skill or aiming to do what he did.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  Chris Lewis

Remember what you were taught in school regarding true-false tests? If any part of the statement is false, then the whole thing is false.

Hill4Jail
Hill4Jail
6 years ago

The door would’ve caught fire & the hallway would’ve been WRECKED with that type of fire power.

My guess is that the “Security Officer”’s accomplice, the “maintenance man” shot him once because they needed a cover story since the Security Officer could’ve opened the door to any room he wanted & they could’ve escaped by taking the elevator.

The “maintenance man”’s call for help was the PHONIEST thing I ever heard in my whole life.

katzkiner
katzkiner
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Buley

Any government that can & will orchestrate a false flag involving hundreds to thousands of casualties needs to be removed from power immediately.
I’m sorry, I’m old-fashioned, I expect honesty from government officials, that’s what I pay taxes for. comment image

Michael Buley
Michael Buley
6 years ago
Reply to  katzkiner

Yes. We have to wonder at what point, to us old fashioned people, it’s all gone too far. There doesn’t appear to be any pulling anything back in. Those who have power, aren’t giving it up, and I can’t believe they can get ‘legislated’ or ‘elected’ out.

Kalambong Kalambong
Kalambong Kalambong
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

FBI has become the “Fat Bureau of Islamization”

We need not question the motive behind the cover up of the Vegas massacre – islamization of America has now become the TOP PRIORITY of FBI, any thing and every thing that might harm the reputation of islam must be WIPED CLEAN

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago

“Faecal ” not “fat”

marlene
marlene
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

fecal.

paz
paz
6 years ago
Reply to  marlene

I kind of like the British spelling better.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

Your characterization seems apt.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

There is no evidence to refute your comment.

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FawnHPayne
6 years ago
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Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  FawnHPayne

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Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

I thought that Donald Trump appointed a new FBI director. What the hell is going on? The FBI (Foggy Brained Imbeciles) is about as useless as the RCMP. One thing is certain, Muslims have infiltrated this bureau and it needs a total clean-out of traitors.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

Law enforcement has become a political tool that is no longer controllable by the government.

Ayna
Ayna
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Same in West-European countries.

In Holland we call them the “whores of the government”.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Ayna

Sigh, whores are getting a bad name from all the government dumb clucks that are now doing it.

Ayna
Ayna
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Indeed.

Turns out they’re the most honest women amongst liberals.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Ayna

Very true.

Ron Cole
Ron Cole
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

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Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Ron Cole

How thoughtful.

Ron Cole
Ron Cole
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

The GDC* is a hoe. Of late a muzzie hoe.
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* government dumb clucks

katzkiner
katzkiner
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Being a hoe is an honorable profession compared to a lying bureaucrat.

Sarah417
Sarah417
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

It’s not Muslims. This is only a diversion. Two bills were waiting to be voted on in congress for more than a year…..buying silencers legally and conceal carry. Because of this shooting, they are now dead and a new one has emerged…..banning bump stocks. Now do you see why the FBI/CIA needed this massacre? More gun control. Each time there is a massacre a few more people die than the last massacre and on and on. We The people have to find a way to stop this.

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago
Reply to  Sarah417

From what you’ve said, evidently the FBI and CIA are controlled by someone other than the government and the president. This is not just corruption, it’s also insurrection. What a mess.

Hill4Jail
Hill4Jail
6 years ago
Reply to  Sarah417

Mostly agree.

The muslims are DEFINITELY a part of it… it’s the whole reason why our government is practicing dereliction of duty & treason by importing 10’s of millions of them in by every way under the sun: “refugees”, asylum, illegal aliens/sanctuary cities, visa overstays, work visas, school visas, religious diversity visas, general diversity visas, “special status” visas, artist visas, political visas, research visas, chain migration, etc… they don’t count as “citizens” so they can hide the numbers.

Why else would we need so many mosques?

Also, they created the “mujahideen” to do their dirty work in the Middle East since the 70’s & now that our government turned against us they’re bringing them here.

Zbigniew “Brzezinski: How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen”:

https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/04/04/brzezinski-how-jimmy-carter-and-i-started-the-mujahideen/

Zbigniew Brzezinski was Jimmy Carter’s National Security Advisor & then Obama hired him to be his Foreign Policy Advisor to Afghanistan.

If you read the article, ask yourself, what was Obama’s TRUE MOTIVATION & INTENTION for hiring him & then doing what they did.

Oh… and Brzezinski just happens to be the late father of Mika from “Morning Joe”. It all starts to make sense after awhile.

Brzezinski also made a VERY informative Documentary on the Afghan Jihad in 1981.

Within the first 3 minutes you can hear a real, Afghan muslim explain what jihad REALLY means.

Hint: it’s NOT what our govt has been telling us.

Link to article w/video of the Documentary:

“Afghan jihad – A documentary on the 1980’s Afghanistan mujahideen (in part created by Obama advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski)”:

https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/afghan-jihad-videos-and-pics/

If you like to read, I’d suggest this book for great historical information. It’s 10 years old, but the author CLEARLY knew what was coming. He’s said in retrospect, he would’ve taken it even more seriously & advised not to just treat it as criminal, but as terror.

“The Coming Balkan Caliphate: The Threat of Radical Islam to Europe and the West” by Christopher Deliso, 2007.

As for the “no motivation” lie… it’s a coverup & also plausible deniability for future attacks thanks to the Marxist “moral equivalency” theory they’ve brainwashed our society with.

If an educated, rich, white man with everything going for him can commit this heinous crime with NO motivation, then EVERY muslim attack that happens from now on will have “no motivation” either.

Hill4Jail
Hill4Jail
6 years ago
Reply to  Hill4Jail

Here’s the text of the 1st article:

Interview of Zbigniew Brzezinski Le Nouvel Observateur (France), Jan 15-21, 1998, p. 76*

Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs [“From the Shadows”], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention.

In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter.

You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979.

But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise:

Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul.

And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action.

But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

Brzezinski: It isn’t quite that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn’t believe them.

However, there was a basis of truth. You don’t regret anything today?

Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea.

It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it?

The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war.

Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic [integrisme], having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world?

The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire?

Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems?

But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

Brzezinski: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam.

That is stupid. There isn’t a global Islam.

Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion.

It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers.

But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism?

Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.

* There are at least two editions of this magazine; with the perhaps sole exception of the Library of Congress, the version sent to the United States is shorter than the French version, and the Brzezinski interview was not included in the shorter version.

The above has been translated from the French by Bill Blum author of, “Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II” and “Rogue State: A Guide to the World’s Only Superpower”.

Original pdf: brzezinski-zbig-19980115-le-nouvel-observateur-cias-intervention-in-afghanistan

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Hill4Jail

It just goes to show how far back the islum is peace mindset goes in our corrupt US government.

eskymanD
eskyman
6 years ago
Reply to  Sarah417

That’s the most likely thing I’ve heard yet about this unbelievable incident. The whole affair strikes me as mostly phony, like it’s a set-up- but with actual people shot dead to give a veneer of truth to an otherwise ridiculous story.

Those In Control want to stay that way; if we had universal CCW, and slackened gun control, then they may lose that control. It’s a necessary step, they can’t enslave a free and armed people, so the first step is to disarm them! I seem to recall that before WWII that also happened… in Germany.

This massacre also means that many will look favorably on increased “security” like the Kabuki theater in airports: more TSA/Security guards, more Xray machines to check luggage, more nude body scanners. So expect to be more closely watched, more cameras everywhere (speaking of which, isn’t it strange that there aren’t ANY videos from the Mandalay Bay? None of the “lone shooter” or anything else.)

Remember Ben Franklin: “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

Pittsburgh Kneelers
Pittsburgh Kneelers
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

The corruption is more than one person, it goes deep.

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago

Thanks, yes, this much is now evident and it started a long time ago. The challenge is how to stop it because if it isn’t stopped once free countries are heading toward dictatorship. I wonder if Trump appreciated how deep the rot is in the U.S.

Ann Inquirer ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ
Ann Inquirer ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

Too many Obama moslim implants.

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago

Some time ago I read of some woman in the U.S. reporting some Muslim activity to the FBI and was then visited by an agent. He turned out to be a Muslim and threatened her over her reporting whatever she had. She was left fearful. So now we know what a piece of rubbish the FBI is. It’s invited the fox into the hen house, oblivious it seems, to the fact that Islam and many of its followers are our sworn enemies. The stupidity or naivety of what is occurring is amazing.

Ann Inquirer ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ
Ann Inquirer ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

Right on, all of it, Rob.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

I always wonder if Molly Norris, organizer of the 1st Draw Muhammad event on Fascist Book, is still alive. She went into the witness protection program after credibly muslum death threats were identified, but in today’s muslum compromised federal law enforcement all it would take is for one muslum LEO to drop the dime on her and no one would be the wiser because local law enforcement would only know her under her assumed identity.

Hill4Jail
Hill4Jail
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

FBI agent Aaron Rouse in Vegas (the man who keeps poor Sheriff Lombardo in arm’s reach & glares at him like he’s a hostage in the tv pressers) is son-in-law of John Podesta:

http://www.puppetstringnews.com/blog/fbi-agent-aaron-rouse-in-vegas-is-son-in-law-of-john-podesta

“Well America if you do a Google search of John Podesta’s daughter…

She is the wife of lead FBI investigator in the Mandalay Bay shooting Aaron Rouse.

So now basically the Vegas Mandalay Bay shooting smells a little worse, and now has an all out Hillary Clinton connection.

So what we have here is a country concert that was mainly Trump supporters where 59 died having a Clinton campaign connection, due to FBI agent in charge Aaron Rouse being the son in law of John Podesta who is the husband of John Podesta’s daughter Megan.
                        
No way you can deny on why there is a major cover up of the Las Vegas massacre at Mandalay Bay and why it being a country music concert was targeted, because the shooting actually now involves the finger prints of the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Should we now find it obvious why the Las Vegas shooting investigation is so messed up and going nowhere…

Especially since Mandalay Bay has thousands of security cameras?

The Las Vegas shooting may be darker than we have thought!

Did the Hillary Campaign basically go off in a rage and kill Americans that were attended mainly by Trump supporters?“

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago
Reply to  Hill4Jail

Recently some friends attended a function here in Canada. It was also attended by Americans who were anxious to find out what the outside world now thinks of America. Decent folk, they were embarrassed by the mess that America is in, no thanks to Trump, but to Barack Obama and his clueless predecessor who probably still thinks that “Islam is a religion of peace.” Only a complete imbecile still thinks such nonsense. So too an imbecile who thinks that ‘ISIS perverts Islam’.

Hill4Jail
Hill4Jail
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

I posted this somewhere else the other day because I was floored when I saw it.

It DEFINITELY seems like it’s being covered up to me, but then again, I’m a fan of the “Arlington Road” movie because it seemed so crazy & far fetched to me back then.

What do you think?

Bryan Hopkins, singer from Elvis Monroe, MUST WATCH interview on Fox news: https://youtu.be/HABU-KAltoU

1:25 – “there’s AN ARTIST ENTRANCE in the back corner CUZ WE WERE JUST BACKSTAGE & I played there a few years ago”

2:18 – “and it’s a tall fence that we just run into… IT’S NOT AN OPENING ANYMORE… that, that I thought” (seems confusing to him).

? come again???

he goes on & says, “there are people kinda, like, MAYBE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT’S GOING ON…”

(seems confusing to him)

dumbfounded, he says, “AND APPARENTLY IT’S A CATERING COMPANY, that, (seems impossible to him), but, I kept calling it a crate, with two doors, but it was a refrigerator…”

What??? ?

Hmm… ?

It appears the “catering company “ moved a crate-like refrigerator in front of the backstage entrance/exit just moments before the shooting!!!

I’m not a theory conspiracist, but it seems shady in & of itself.

The Fox News interview was @ 8:51 pm.

Watch this clip from CNN interview at 10:09 pm (1 hr, 18 min later) & decide for yourself:

https://youtu.be/oXSTE_HrF_Y

Starts with a video Bryan took inside the refrigerator… (the VERY EMPTY, HUGE, crate like refrigerator, THAT APPEARED OUT OF NOWHERE, MOMENTS BEFORE THE ATTACK & just so happened to BLOCK THE EXIT…)

2:48 – Bryan is talking @ being backstage & the catering truck & he starts to elaborate, but Erin Burnett CUTS HIM OFF…

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Hill4Jail

Burnett is the talking whore, oops, head that called wearing the burqa a “liberating experience”.

Michael Buley
Michael Buley
6 years ago

It is very foolish to believe a single thing the FBI says, our government officials say, the MSM says.

Our government — our leaders, all of it, all of them — are corrupt far beyond what most of us would ever like to imagine. We should assume the worst intent, and the most diabolical of agendas. Then we have a chance of discovering the truth … albeit a slim chance … lol …

mztore
mztore
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Buley

Maybe future generations will find the truth, but it ain’t gonna happen any time soon, that’s for sure.

UnderzogD
Underzog
6 years ago

The FBI should be dissolved and something and shin bet should remodel such a government service.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

Where are those brain dead useless judges? The destruction of computer records is the destruction of possible evidence at an inquest or trial. Whoever destroyed those records should be charged for tapering with evidence, then tossed in the clink for a few years.
This is more evidence that the fbi are not to be trusted, they have no right to destroy any information given to them for any reason. This is a case for for the a l c u if they aren’t too busy representing anarchists.

Ichabod Crain
Ichabod Crain
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

There is no indication they “destroyed the evidence”. They could have made a forensic backup that will serve in a court of law. Once such a backup is made, with the proper chain of custody preserved, there is no further dependency on the actual device.

CreoleGumbo
CreoleGumbo
6 years ago
Reply to  Ichabod Crain

The problem with the FBI wiping away data is that they are free to alter that data to suit their own purposes and if the owner does not possess the original copy the ability to prove that the data was altered is severely compromised. That is why you should not agree to have anyone tape or video an encounter unless you have an independent tape or video running that will always remain in your posession.

Ichabod Crain
Ichabod Crain
6 years ago
Reply to  CreoleGumbo

Well of course. Also, we are concerned that they simply don’t want this evidence to be seen by anyone as it may run counter to their false narrative.

CreoleGumbo
CreoleGumbo
6 years ago
Reply to  Ichabod Crain

Yes that is my concern, which is why I hope that someone may have copied their data.

Carowal
Carowal
6 years ago
Reply to  Ichabod Crain

Those cell phones are the private property of citizens who were at the scene of a heinous crime. The feds cavalierly destroyed their property. I say cavalierly, because the law got court involved when trying to retrieve the locked data on the San Bernadino shooter’s cell phone, and he was dead.

If I’d have been there I think I would want to look at what was on my phone some time in the future, when trying to come to terms with what happened, or to face what was causing my nightmares, or simply remind me how fragile life can be, and why we must protect it.

mztore
mztore
6 years ago
Reply to  Ichabod Crain

Bingo.

4406pak
4406pak
6 years ago
Reply to  Ichabod Crain

Your funny!

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Ichabod Crain

There is no reason to destroy data that is on a persons commuter, especially when it is presented by someone innocently trying to help the investigation. Trust takes a long time to build, stupid stunts like destroying personal property by law enforcement agencies goes a long way towards destroying that trust.

Carrol Brooks
Carrol Brooks
6 years ago
Reply to  Ichabod Crain

Then I am assured that an FOI Request of my own Personal Data will be acceptable. If it’s my personal data and I request to have a copy made (Bearing in Mind It Still Exists) then It would be absolutely no problem right?

ME
ME
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

that is absolutely spot-on.

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

It’s like to stop only when some judges are gunned down after making their treasonous rulings.

Hill4Jail
Hill4Jail
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Yeah, wiping the phones seems shady. I can see making copies of the contents, but not wiping them.

People use their phones for EVERYTHING, work, personal, pix of their families, medical, financial, etc…

I’m not sure how that’s legal.

DJ
DJ
6 years ago

Wiped clean? You mean like with a cloth or something? 🙂

Dorothy Svelmoe
Dorothy Svelmoe
6 years ago
Reply to  DJ

HILLARY IS THAT YOU??

GTKRWN
GTKRWN
6 years ago
Reply to  DJ

At least they were nice and didn’t wipe them with hammers. Ah, Hillary…

Mark GoldbergD
Mark Goldberg
6 years ago

He appears to have been anti trump and perhaps, an antifa supporter at some level… perhaps.
That the FBI cannot allow this to be so indicated is more troubling because it indicates the swamp goes deep into their structure and their hypocrisy is endemic. They are happy to let the ‘white supremacist meme be peddled, they are happy to let the crazed gun nut meme be peddled, but god help them because they really can’t allow the
jihadist meme or the leftist supporter meme grow the story because then… well, they can’t reduce the story to the crazed gun nut white guy that the dems, the left and all the rest would prefer to sell to themselves and all of us.

GTKRWN
GTKRWN
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Goldberg

Some random ISIS twitter coincidentally popped in and “took responsibility” just exactly the time the FBI needed justification for their seizing complete control of the investigation from the LVPD. Coincidentally.

RalphB
RalphB
6 years ago

Just remember, if you are ever in this position where you have data the government wants and as a good citizen you want to help, be sure to back up your entire device to a secure system and scrub anything on your device you don’t want them to have before you tell them about it and turn it over to them.

What a secure (from the Feds) backup system is and how you make something on your system irrecoverably deleted would depend on what system you are using. Remember when Hillary’s server was wiped clean, not with a cloth as she snarkily remarked, but with “Bleach-Bit” software? It’s not a job for an amateur unless you really know your computer at an expert level since the same data can appear in many places in different forms. For example, MS Windows stores multiple copies of a list of every website you have visited on your current device in cryptically named and hidden system files (e.g. “index.dat) for no apparent reason — they say it is a ‘backup’ but when you decide to erase your browsing history for some reason those hidden files are never erased and you cannot delete them yourself in the normal way — the system forbids it.

( For more on this: http://www.geeksengine.com/article/index-dat.html )

So much for the privacy of MS clients. If you do learn how to delete index.dat (and that’s only one example), you would still have to overwrite the hidden magnetic trace(s) of that file multiple times in order to make it irrecoverable. My guess is that the feds ‘persuaded’ Microsoft to cooperate in this scheme for hiding these ‘backup’ files in exchange for dropping an antitrust case against them back in the day.

If you use iOS, Android, or any system with “cloud” backup, you can forget about hiding anything from the Feds irrespective of its supposedly being encrypted. They can break almost any encryption (if they know it’s there) given enough tries, so you can kiss that hope of privacy goodbye. The moral of the story is either don’t assist the Feds or if you do but you have private data, make sure you have a trusted computer expert on your side before you do.

Remember when we used to trust the FBI? Now it looks like it is a secret government within the elected one, still managed and staffed by Obama-era ideologues. I hope I’m wrong. If not, welcome to 1984.

GTKRWN
GTKRWN
6 years ago
Reply to  RalphB

If you refuse they’re going to beat you, jail you, and take it anyway.

Shame these attacks always happen in places where most of the staff are absolutely forbidden to carry self-defense firearms, otherwise you could take a few of them out before they end you.
Damn shame. :^)

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago
Reply to  GTKRWN

Don’t inform the FBI you have any information or recordings, give it to Pamela Geller or Robert Spencer to show the world.

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago
Reply to  RalphB

The solution is not to co-operate with the FBI. Alternatively certainly don’t hand over information to this now thoroughly discredited bureau before recording what you possess.

satcatchet
satcatchet
6 years ago
Reply to  RalphB

This is why I carry 2 cellphones. One for the joker, which has fake info and one to hide, my personal info phone, from the joker. The Oklahoma Police Dept. & Oklahoma Highway Patrol gave me the idea btw.

J1950
J1950
6 years ago

What about back up to the cloud systems that phones and computers have.

GTKRWN
GTKRWN
6 years ago
Reply to  J1950

Feds don’t just have a backdoor into Jewgle servers; they have a VIP pass. The entire Android system is a giant data-collection scheme. Apple users may have had a chance, but that’s only because they can lock their phones and keep them locked. At least until the FBI sends some Bitcoin to their “friends” in Israel.

marlene
marlene
6 years ago
Reply to  GTKRWN

Give it up goy boy!

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  marlene

Obvious O.C. P.D.

marlene
marlene
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

lol – you’re right. “Children may be strained due to emotional detachment and controlling behavior”

Tom Validakis
Tom Validakis
6 years ago

Route 91 at 10.00pm = 911
The shooter was facing mecca when shooting.

Ichabod Crain
Ichabod Crain
6 years ago
Reply to  Tom Validakis

Well there’s proof right there… sort of

AR154U☑ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ DEPLORABLE 2020
AR154U☑ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ DEPLORABLE 2020
6 years ago

Huh,…. the very same FBI that assisted in wiping clean Hilliary Clinton’s and Staffers Blackberries, laptops, and cellphones,…. even though those items were under subpoena from Congress !!!

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IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

Yes and when the muslum police officer in Minneapolistan gunned down an unarmed Australian woman who wassn’t a suspect in any crime he was merely being “extremely careless”. Why it was nothing more than an accident! A tragic accident and the muslum police officer cries himself to sleep every night over it, he might even have to go on lifetime disability.

AR154U☑ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ DEPLORABLE 2020
AR154U☑ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ DEPLORABLE 2020
6 years ago

My home security system DVR captured the timeline of my neighbors coming and goings.
Sadly my neighbor killed their spouse.
The homicide Detectives requested my DVR for a couple of weeks and promised it’s return.
.
They returned it with EVERYTHING still on device !!
Needless to say, I downloaded hundreds of hours of video to a half-dozen 32GB flash-drives.
.
Very sad watching the children clearly asking where their ‘missing’ parent was.

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santashandler
santashandler
6 years ago

This whole thing just made a serious turn for the bizarre. If there is any proof the FBI is involved in some shenanigans, this is it! What was their explanation, for the deleted info, to the people they gave their phones back to. They could have easily copied any pertinent info they needed and left all the data alone. The only reason people delete videos, pictures, etc., is because there is something they don’t want to get out. The spin from this event gets worse by the day, and silence from congress and silence from the loudmouths Schumer and Pelosi. That in itself is very telling.

CreoleGumbo
CreoleGumbo
6 years ago
Reply to  santashandler

Lets just hope that someone was smart enough to copy whatever data was on their phone or computer.

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago
Reply to  santashandler

Through the effects of the FBI and CIA the United States increasing behaves like the old Soviet Union or any other totalitarian regime. Something drastic needs to occur to clean out these organizations.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

Or any muslum “republic”.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3y8924sKZI
Lots of loose ends brought up that have disappeared.

Long Ben
Long Ben
6 years ago

Hopefully some of the witnesses/ citizen journalist phones were backed up to the cloud.

ME
ME
6 years ago
Reply to  Long Ben

but the cloud is owned by your service provider. so Verizon could easily dispose of anything stored on their servers.

Alleged-Comment
Alleged-Comment
6 years ago

WTF???

This only implicates the FBI in a cover-up!! Please remove that weed James Phoney, er Comey.

I hope you guys did backup before you EVER hand your devices over to law enfarcement.

Badu
Badu
6 years ago

Why has no one asked why there were 16 guns in the room. Where did the other 15 people go?
You only need one gun but lots of ammunition.
Why haven’t we been told where the suspect bought all his guns from?
Did Paddock really do it or was he framed?

Cann Harp
Cann Harp
6 years ago
Reply to  Badu

It was 23 I thought. Under bump stock stress guns often jam. Having guns pre loaded to replace jammed guns and pre positioned makes sense. However 23 guns is considerably more the needed or usefully for one person.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago

This is exactly what I was afraid of. Sheriff Lombardo has been doing his best to maintain the integrity of the investigation while being three or four steps ahead of his regular and informative press briefings. But this is a firearms case which means it is a federal case and he now has the FBI gumming up the works, a situation for which he will be made the fall guy.

Len Mullen
Len Mullen
6 years ago

FBI doesn’t want to implicate it’s Left Wing. Antifa==ISIS. FBI==Soros.

You've been TRUMPED!~AKA/ION
You've been TRUMPED!~AKA/ION
6 years ago

Every time the FBI gets too close to something…..
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IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

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marlene
marlene
6 years ago

The first sign of guilt is the cover up. The proof of that guilt is when they murder the messenger. Now we have the whole dirty story. All conspiracy theorists come to the front of the room and get your prize.

Sunshine Kid
Sunshine Kid
6 years ago

File charges against the individuals that had the phones and laptops. They removed personal effects, and that is a direct violation of the fourth amendment, which states “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated . . ., and personal property is defined legally as “effects”, and any information on them so tampered is tantamount to tampering with evidence, and no official has the right to tamper with evidence at any level.

Frederick Lembeck
Frederick Lembeck
6 years ago

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THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN VEGAS

The best kept secret in Vegas isn’t
that the casinos are crooked, although they certainly are (send a
blank email to the auto-reply at [email protected] and it will
send you back a mathematical gambling system that works at home but
not in the casinos — see if your local TV reporters will allow the
world to know about this).

Rather, the best-kept secret in Vegas
is that the Las Vegas Police are STRICTLY FORBIDDEN TO ENTER A CASINO
until allowed in by the casino security people.

Yes. Whatever the crime, whatever the
complaint, the LVPD have IRONCLAD ORDERS to let casino security
handle it, and NEVER enter a casino until asked in by casino
management. (This frees the casino thugs to use gangland tactics on
staff and players both, as needed.)

For TEN SOLID MINUTES the LVPD waited
outside the Mandalay Bay Hotel and DARED NOT hENTER while they watched
someone upstairs fire a machine into a crowd of 22,000 people.

Because the LVPD has IRONCLAD ORDERS
never to enter a casino without permission, not even if they see
22,000 people being machine gunned. Their orders are ALWAYS to let
casino security handle it.

That’s why they had to change their
story about when the “lone” security guard was shot. They
never in a million years would have sent a lone guard with no
walkie-talkie to investigate not just an active shooter but an active
machine gunner. They actually sent a whole crew of casino security
people, and Paddock saw them coming on camera. THAT’S who Paddock
fired 200 rounds through the door at, not one guy. That’s what made
them call in the LVPD at last, ten minutes and 59 homicides later.

But to admit this raises the question,
where was the LVPD while all this was going on? Answer: outside the
casino, WAITING FOR PERMISSION TO ENTER! It was only 10 minutes
later, after the burst of 200 rounds through the door, that casino
security realized the situation was too much for them and allowed the
LVPD to enter with their “BREACH BREACH BREACH.”

The stench isn’t just coming from
Vegas, it’s coming from the media too. Certainly I wouldn’t expect
them to publicize THAT.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

What kind of security guard would go to investigate a shooting in progress? Especially when only armed w/a cellphone or walkie-talkie? They’re not getting paid enough to die for Mandalay Bay…

jerry snaper
jerry snaper
6 years ago

This explains it!!:
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TAQIYYA
Tawriya
Muruna
Jizya
DHIMMI
HIJRAH
JIHAD
FATWA
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EID
ABEED
KAABA
Makara

GR Arnold
GR Arnold
6 years ago

I’m already convinced we will most likely never know the full truth of this shooting. Very, very strange there was a burglary of a crime scene (house in Reno) while the investigation of the crime scene was still technically underway.

ME
ME
6 years ago
Reply to  GR Arnold

right! how does that happen?? wouldn’t his homes be under watch 24/7 just in case an accomplice or something showed up?

Evil Liberal
Evil Liberal
6 years ago

Always back up your phone >:)

Mike Knox
Mike Knox
6 years ago

Reminds me of a certain “event” that happened in 1963… a “lone nut” and that Zapruder film… but hey, that’s ancient history right?

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

FIRE. SESSIONS. NOW.

Ayna
Ayna
6 years ago

Well I’ll be d…..

That’s why from now on, you don’t step to the authorities but to Breitbart when you’ve caught a crime like this on your phone.

So this is what the FBI was really sweeping into: to delete evidence.

Now it’s only become more evident this was another liberal assassination on mainly republicans (the media even remarked most country music people are Trump voters), and to push their anti gun lobby.

Two strikes in one blow for them.

sabrina wheeler
sabrina wheeler
6 years ago

200 rounds into the hallway would have blown both doors to bits…also where was this damage to the cart sitting outside the room and down the hallway. NO ONE was on that floor , entering or exiting or in their room? Where is the security guard hit in the leg by 200
bullets flying by? We havent even seen his picture. Too many questions people. We know the motive. #killtrumpvoters

lisa a
lisa a
6 years ago

UPDATE: Vegas Security Guard Jesus Campos Skips 5 Interviews, Goes Missing — And Now His Family Is Under Gag Order
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/update-vegas-security-guard-jesus-campos-skips-5-interviews-goes-missing-now-family-gag-order/#disqus_thread

Las Vegas Police BLOCK CONSERVATIVE REPORTERS From Entering Press Conference on Botched Mass Shooting Investigation
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/las-vegas-police-block-conservative-reporters-entering-press-conference-botched-mass-shooting-investigation/

ME
ME
6 years ago

all the pictures published of the hotel room/hall/etc. and even the body of Paddock looked staged to me.

reggiec
reggiec
6 years ago

A Clinton campaign email released as part of the WikiLeaks data dump talks about the need to maintain political power by producing “an UNAWARE AND COMPLIANT citizenry”.
How far into ALL realms of government has this ideology burrowed?

ME
ME
6 years ago
Reply to  reggiec

and I’m sure they also meant an UNARMED citizenry–could this have been a ploy to get complete gun control?

EIvishasIeftthebIdg
EIvishasIeftthebIdg
6 years ago

LETS SAY IT WAS ANTIFA> THE Fbi wouldnt want to tell the American people due to retribution that Americans would take out against ANTIFA. The FBI could be trying to stop a civil war.

Ayna
Ayna
6 years ago

You got a point.

But this action only raises the suspicion.

donna
donna
6 years ago

what if anything can be done about any of this ?

ME
ME
6 years ago
Reply to  donna

nothing-until democrats and the MSM are thoroughly investigated and brought to justice for the harm they have and are causing our country. It got so bad with Obama that I’m not sure if we will ever recover from the deceptions starting with the mystery surrounding obama’s birth and his life between then and when he became an IL senator. His new library in Chicago will have no records, no nothing for researchers to learn about his life. That fact should prove to even the stupidest liberal sheep that obama is nearly as evil as the anti-Christ and has an entire life that is almost completely hidden from the world.

donna
donna
6 years ago
Reply to  ME

lord monckton was asked to do a scientific investigation of the long form released by WH. Aside from 3 glaring forged entries 1. kenya was not a country until Dec ’63; 2. hospital listed did not exist in ’61 and 3 his father’s race was stated as African Now no one in the gov used that as term on BCs then or now Monckton found many inconsistencies most relating to space where name of father was entered He was so concerned he requested a special session of house of lords to discuss the international ramifications of his removal from office The rest is history Gossip is axelrod the red diaper baby advised him to spent the money sealing his records There are many people around who have known him thru his putative history with a great deal to say but they are marginalized Lets all agree he is foreigner (no evidence the tramp applied for citizenship for him his wife, two grandmother’s having publicly said he was born in kenya) likely gay and a former, at least, large consumer of contraband. The continued sycophantic obsequious treatment he receives even from the royals family is nauseating.

donna
donna
6 years ago
Reply to  donna

when it became apparent they were on track i felt i had to get some sense of them and watched a video in REAL TIME of michelle in an elementary school class She was sitting on a low stool very sweet and said “Can I tell u something about Barack” kids oh and ah all yelled yes. Michelle then said “Barack was born in kenya !!”. this was early ’08 guaranteed it was pulled Did not think much of it at the time not fully comprehending its legal meaning. Even with the most liberal interpretation of US Code 8 section 1441 his mother was still to young to convey standing Better was Bettina viviano chief DNC flimmaker telling Jerome Corsi that she WAS THERE when bill brought up issue of his eligibility. Persisting bettina said one of his chief aids was found dead in his office (sound familiar) and when he continued he was told they would so something to Chelsea She told Corsi DNC had been her life but enough was enough and she came forward Lie down with dogs get up with fleas. worst people in the world. I continue to be shocked at there being no mechanism in place legally to force all candidates to provide evidence of their eligibility

donna
donna
6 years ago
Reply to  donna

we don’t know dorrie and were warned by Christ not to speculate. Things have not been this rocky since the early 70s where at least the fundamental questions still enjoyed some common acceptance. I knew many drugged hippies who would genuinely be shocked at the suggestions of 50 something genders although they may have assumed it to be the drugs Brown is insane residing his life in a bubble of complete privilege which he has from time to time selectively stepped out of in his spiritual quests from the east. when I was young NYC was a war zone on a day to day basis physically deteriorated and filthy violence present in almost all neighborhoods subways too dangerous to ride even in daylight hours. Said to my mother it seemed like there was no way out and conditions had never been worse. She replied that it was self indulgence and we all should have lived thru WWII where she lived on a barrier island off bklyn and people went to sleep each night wondering if they were waking up with the wehrmacht over them. It was an invasion route for german army and they were aware germans were in the channel islands in north sea. No one has the nerve to cut the states off with sanctuary cities as most pay more into federal coffers to did until recently than they get back. I was around in 60s as well cities were burning. Old Jewish curse “May u live in biblical times” we all live in biblical times this will never change but i think it is well past time for a serious reevaluation of where we are heading

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

False flag? Again? Muslums slaughtered over 200 people across Eurapia over the last three years, were those all false flags? Was Orlando, FL a false flag? Were the Beltway Snipers false flags? Was the first bombing of the WTC a false flag? I like how this video left out the fact the Islamic State has repeatedly taken responsibility for this terrorist attack, just like the enemedia does.

VTSD
VTS
6 years ago

If Paddok was a republican, we would know it by now.
Therefore, I am 100% sure, he was not a republican.
If Paddok was a Christian, Hindu or Jew, we would know it to by now too.
Conclusion, he was either atheist, muslim, communist, or islamist. Pick one.

ME
ME
6 years ago
Reply to  VTS

you forgot Democrat. unless you meant communist (same difference)

Ann Inquirer ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ
Ann Inquirer ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ
6 years ago

I still go along with JIHAD by a convert.

katzkiner
katzkiner
6 years ago

They certainly have me baffled with the BS on this one.
This guy traveled a lot in jihadi inclined nations but he also appears to be one of Bernie’s Bolsheviks.
I’m getting so I don’t even listen to what the government proclaims anymore.
Since the Gulf of Tonkin incident seems like the bureaucrats would rather tell you a lie to keep from telling you the truth.
Heaven help them if I’m ever the judge these smug forked tongued bureaucrats come in front of, I’m so tired of them lying all I’d have to do is catch them in one lie and I’d send them to the gallows.
They’d never get a chance to bellow at me “what difference does it make”.

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raj
raj
6 years ago
Reply to  katzkiner

Muslim hater dirty kuffar natanyahoo’s dikk fukker

Mrs. Patriot
Mrs. Patriot
6 years ago

Maybe they have iDrive. Is there a mini usb thumb drive i can carry with me now to download everything I witness before my phone is confiscated? Just in case some tyrant wants to suppress the truth?

katzkiner
katzkiner
6 years ago
Reply to  Mrs. Patriot

They want absolute control of the narrative it seems.
Clean, sanitary, no loose ends, wether true or false.

American 1st.
American 1st.
6 years ago

I too had questioned why he was wearing gloves if he had an escape plan, since they knew who they comped the room to.

Hearing that the FBI removed all recordings from the phones would not make me want to let them have my phone if the circumstances ever arose, at least not until I sent the videos, etc. via email to several trusted people. I don’t think the FBI should have destroyed the device owners personal data.

Michael Buley
Michael Buley
6 years ago
Reply to  American 1st.

I won’t listen to any reports by any MSM on this — no TV, no radio, no newspaper. I won’t even read the reports on GP or Breitbart or anywhere. I don’t believe a single word of it — and didn’t from the moment I heard about it. I do get daily emails from a site called ‘whatdoesitmean.com’ — this is a different take entirely, with information — you decide whether to believe it — that does not come across anywhere else I’m reading.

9-11 was a major false flag; there have been many. Some believe Sandy Hook was real; I’ve read plenty of stuff that it was completely staged. On and on it goes. I won’t buy into any of these ‘tragic events.’ I doubt 59 people were killed; we’ll never really know.

I won’t even begin to get into the FBI said this, that, and then this. I don’t care. They are an arm of the deep state, and that’s all. There is zero integrity in the FBI — any of these national agencies / bureaus or whatever. Not just zero integrity; they are corrupt to the core.

Michael Buley
Michael Buley
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Buley

Dorrie, I appreciate and understand that good, intelligent people differ on this. I’ve done extensive research on it, and there’s no other conclusion that I can come to. This is not to put down anyone who believes otherwise. I think the main thing is to not assume that what we are told by the government, is true. Rather, that there is something else going on. Our government is, as happens with all people who gain immense power, far from benign. We disagree on some things, and I know we are on the same side as far as wanting America to stay free and independent and strong — and hopefully led by at least somewhat honest politicians … and they are far and few between … lol …

ME
ME
6 years ago

there are cameras everywhere in Vegas. Paddock would be on camera hauling stuff to his room. And I know of one person who had a bullet graze her shoulder claim that shots were coming from nearby apartments.She talked to police, FBI, etc. about more than one shooter but they won’t report it. This sounds like a soros-funded attempt to get Americans behind full confiscation of guns. That would be a logical motive seeing how badly dems want complete control over us. The LV police chief and sheriff are dems, as is the head of LV FBI.

ME
ME
6 years ago

this whole thing is just…scary. we normal people do not want to believe in conspiracies by our government. We want so badly to trust our elected officials. Nixon was really not that big of a “crook” and his deed looks pretty lame compared to what’s been going down starting 8 years ago. There are so many crimes and crooks in government that it would take a generation to sort through and bring it all to justice. Obama, Holder, Lerner, Hillary, Podesta, Comey, -the short list- never in the history of the U.S. has there been so many crooks working in tandem in our government. If not for the filthy gullible and despicable MSM, we would at least have a slight handle on the corruption. The MSM has made idiot sheep out of a very large portion of the citizenry who, for unfathomable reasons, refuse to see the blatant crimes that are OBVIOUS to even us “rubes”. I still can hardly believe that Trump won–with all the corruption it should have been easy for the Deep State or Soros to buy the election. And occasionally, I sometimes wonder if Trump is a plant or something when he seems to capitulate to the Dems. But then he does something good like refuse to certify the Iran deal and I think OK, maybe he is for real.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago

How can this Campos guy who is now magically missing, who supposedly interrupted the attack, only run away with a bullet in his LEG after 200 rounds were fired through a door? He should have been riddled with bullets and NOT survived. It doesn’t make sense.

Perhaps the devices were wiped clean to save as evidence? Frankly, I would have done a backup BEFORE I gave up anything. They should have done that.

I have NO faith in the F.I.B. er F.B.I. or Lombardo. The same team investigated, Paris Paradise. Remember her? She was the one running people over as witnesses heard her screaming in the car, “Allahu Akbar”. She changed her name a month before from Lakeisha Holloway to Paris Paradise in October 2015.

Interestingly ->
“The motive for the attack remains “sketchy”, as police describe her initial statements (without specificity), and also describe their reluctance to outline those initial comments as “uncomfortable” for them.”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/12/21/las-vegas-driver-identified-lakeisha-holloway-24-motive-remains-sketchy/
Since when are motives hushed up because they make law enforcement “uncomfortable”? Due note the SAME Sheriff, Lomdardo and the same F.I.B. team are investigating this. The motive was NEVER disclosed for Paris Paradise and the latest attack still has no motive. I don’t see this as a coincidence. Her attack was passed off as a hit and run….(Dec. 2015)

In November of 2015, Muslims slaughtered people in Paris at the Bataclan theatre. Could this have been Paris’s inspiration?

B17G
B17G
6 years ago

If this is true its pretty suspicious. Is it really routine that they can just erase your property? Doesnt seem reasonable or legal.

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