University of Texas at San Antonio: Prof threatens to expel student for saying Islamic countries kill gays

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These are the evil morons teaching our children. Is it any wonder that the millennials are the most vicious, ill-informed goons?

Student ‘forced to leave’ university after saying extremist Islamic groups kill LGBTI people

by Charlie Mathers, Gay Star News, October 2, 2017 (thanks to Jihad Watch):

Alfred MacDonald left University of Texas at San Antonio after feeling ‘difficult to stay motivated’.

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He had made the comments during an out-of-class conversation with another graduate student. They had been discussing the ‘religious leanings of philosophy professors.’

He pointed out that in some Muslim countries, he could be executed for being bisexual.

A few days after the conversation, he was called in for a meeting with Dr Eve Browning. She is the Chair of the Department of Philosophy and Classics at the University of Texas at San Antonio. MacDonald studied here at the time.

This event took place in September 2016 but Alfred MacDonald only went public with it this summer.

Dr Eve Browning said if his behavior continued, he would be referred to the student conduct board. She said they would recommend dismissal.

A university head of department threatened a bisexual student with dismissal after he made a comment regarding LGBTI executions in Islamic countries.

‘There are Muslim countries where I could get executed’

MacDonald explained to GSN: ‘I was curious if there would be any bias toward me if I took a religious philosophy course as an atheist.’

The student MacDonald was talking to mentioned she was a Christian while her fiance was Muslim.

MacDonald responded by explaining he didn’t have a ‘high opinion of Islam’ because ‘there are Muslim countries where I could get executed.

‘I mentioned that I didn’t have anything against her fiance personally and that I was strictly talking about the religious beliefs themselves.

‘I took this to mean that she wanted to talk about our personal lives, so I mentioned my fiancee and our leanings and we talked about what restaurants she’s worked at.

‘The conversation very demonstrably started with ideas and shifted to people.

‘Even if it hadn’t, this would still be unjustifiable to discipline at a public university, but I am emphasizing that this is the grounds on which Eve called me in for a disciplinary threat because, as she is the head of a philosophy department, it’s that much more egregious.’

‘Her issue is probably not convenience or efficiency, but concealment’

When MacDonald was called into the meeting he had no idea of the severity.

Dr Browning emailed him explaining she wanted to meet with him to ‘discuss some behavioral concerns.’

At the time MacDonald lived an hours drive away from campus.

He explained: ‘At the time I lived 15 miles from the UTSA campus, I was in the process of moving. I was buying a car for school.  My commute averaged two hours of driving per day, so before agreeing I asked if she could just email me her concerns as an hour-long meeting was, in fact, asking me to take three hours out of my day.’

Dr Browning insisted the meeting be in person.

MacDonald continued: ‘I reasoned that her issue is probably not convenience or efficiency but concealment of at least some part of what she was going to talk about.’

‘Texas is a one-party consent state’

Texas is a one-party consent state, which means private conversations can be recorded as long as the person recording is involved in the conversation. For this reason, MacDonald felt it was in his best interest to record the meeting.

The original recording of the meeting MacDonald released was 30 minutes long.

A lot of this recording was irrelevant to the incident.

MacDonald tried sending this to multiple organizations to bring light to what had happened to him.

But because the audio did not highlight the incriminating parts and was 30 minutes long, no one would listen.

It was only after he cut the audio down and made a ten-minute long version, people began listening.

In the meeting, Dr Browning explained she had received multiple complaints about MacDonald’s behavior.

One was that he was turning up late to classes, but he explained that issue had already been dealt with.

Another was regarding offensive comments.

‘It was alleged that you made offensive comments about Islam’

Dr Browning said: ‘It was a conversation you had with a couple of other students that you weren’t originally part of. You joined it. The topic of one student being engaged to a Muslim came up, and it was alleged that you made offensive comments about Islam to that student.’

‘The topic of one student being engaged to a Muslim came up. It was alleged that you made offensive comments about Islam to that student.’

In the recording, MacDonald can be heard explaining: ‘I said that I was bothered that I could be killed in ten Muslim countries. I’m bisexual. So they’d definitely do that in the ten countries where I would be — you know.’

He continued to clarify that the comments were not targeted at the fellow student’s fiance, but ‘about the religious practices in those countries.’

Later on in the meeting, he asked Dr Browning what would happen to him if his comments were deemed inappropriate again in future.

She stated: ‘We’d put it either before the behavior intervention team or the student conduct board. And we’d ask them to make a recommendation.’

Dr Browning then went on to clarify they would either refer him for counseling. Or they would recommend that he be academically dismissed.

The threat of dismissal took MacDonald by surprise.

‘It was difficult to stay motivated’

He explained to GSN university is the time in your life you are the most ‘intellectually uncomfortable you’ve ever been.’

It was hard for him to believe his out-of-class speech was being restricted.

MacDonald believes the concept of restricting speech due to ‘”appropriateness” is itself inappropriate to the very idea of a university.’

He no longer studies at the University of Texas at San Antonio. He transferred not longer after his meeting with Dr Eve Browning.

‘It was difficult to stay motivated knowing that any revision to any paper I made might be ran past the department head if it offended someone,’ he explained to GSN.

MacDonald waited until he was in good standing at his new university before going public with the audio recording.

He still warns people away from Dr Eve Brownings department.

He explained: ‘For every student who makes her restrictions on thought known, there will be ten or twenty who say nothing and allow her to shape a generation of students unnoticed.’

GSN attempted to contact Dr Eve Browning for her comment.

She declined to comment, citing her own safety as the reason.

Dr Browning said: ‘The number of threats I am receiving (due to threads the student has started on Reddit) makes this a subject I would not feel safe discussing even very generally.’

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Stephen Phillips
Stephen Phillips
6 years ago

Don’t they?

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago

How does running away from college help anyone but the Left/liberal “teacher” to continue to spew lies to ignorant students ?

Record your conversation , leave college and sue the college for making threats for speaking truth that pro-muslim professor do not want coming out and are dangerous liars who advance islamic jihad.

This is where conservatives can offer support to such students and their family to help fightback to get rid of such professors.

THIS country is doing exactly that http://bit.ly/2gh6A72

Dutch girl
Dutch girl
6 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

I just reported this ¨professor¨ to the UN human rights high commissioner for violating human rights.
And send it cc to her e-mail

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Dutch girl

LOL, I’m sure the UN “human rights commissioner” got a laugh out of that — along w/his muslum masters.

Robert Batchelor
Robert Batchelor
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Yes, you know where it got filed—while they were laughing.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Dutch girl

Thank you, if no one does anything, nothing will get done.

Daiseymae
Daiseymae
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Agreed

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Petitioning muslums and their various puppets for redress of muslum persecution has all the efficacy of urinating in the wind.

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago
Reply to  Dutch girl

UNHRC has no locus standi . Its better to use American courts to look into it and its also violation of first amendment rights.

UN is run by pro-jihadi left/liberal loons and they accept islam.

santashandler
santashandler
6 years ago
Reply to  Dutch girl

Good move but, since the U.N. is a worthless, ineffective bureaucracy, they are more likely to use your complaint as further evidence of growing “islamophobia” (whatever that is), in this country. Who knows, they might even set up a new U.N. research council to “explore” this SHOCKING trend.

Bill Rowland
Bill Rowland
6 years ago

The truth is heresy to the left.

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6 years ago

Let us not forget that this is a student and she is an authority figure. Her attitude is vindictive, uncaring and haughty. This is REAL bullying to the umpteenth degree. Oh, did I mention she is a coward as well?

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Hans Wellington
Hans Wellington
6 years ago

…a despicable coward indeed. The only one who should be dismissed immediately is Dr. Eve Browning. She has obviously no idea or does not want to know what is going on in the world today. How the hell do they finish up with a degree at all? .

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

It is not what you know but who you blow, she is a text book example of that .

santashandler
santashandler
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

If ever that were true, this is it!

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

She can cool off a steaming hot bowl of New England Clam Chowder in a hurry with those chops!

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

She could pull 33.8 ft of water column effortlessly.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

LOL, There’s one I haven’t heard before.

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago

The universities are full of such…mostly liberal arts but not all as law, economics and medicine have their fair share

Hans Wellington
Hans Wellington
6 years ago

What Eve Browning is in fact doing is even worse than bullying. She is forcing students to lie and to deny the truth. There are far to many brainwashers like her in today’s schools and universities. They are a very dangerous pest to our young people. They should and must be removed.

AlgorithmicAnalystD
AlgorithmicAnalyst
6 years ago

They hang them from cranes in Iran.

michaelofsydney
michaelofsydney
6 years ago

Some try to teach them to fly

santashandler
santashandler
6 years ago

“Dr Browning said: ‘The number of threats I am receiving (due to threads
the student has started on Reddit) makes this a subject I would not feel
safe discussing even very generally.’” But, she’s ok with penalizing students who exercise their 1st Amendment rights OFF campus. Interesting how, the school never even gave him his due process. They just automatically assumed he made the comment without any independent corroborating witness. And why does a Philosophy dept. Chair person have that much power. This is out of control

Strangerinastangeland
Strangerinastangeland
6 years ago
Reply to  santashandler

He made a comment which was true but cast Islam in a negative light. So what? The comment was made in a private conversation outside the classroom. It is protected under the 1st Amendment. Period. The Professor should be removed.

Mike Knox
Mike Knox
6 years ago

The “Christian” student with the Muslim fiancee is the one who is going to be “offended” shortly after the marriage begins.

Tm.
Tm.
6 years ago

I agree, and I am appalled by this woman’s nerve.

motherofmany13
motherofmany13
6 years ago

A Christian was engaged to a Muslim??? Something is a little off there.

Sunshine Kid
Sunshine Kid
6 years ago
Reply to  motherofmany13

No, it’s not. Understand that muslims have the right to lie to the infidel – and they do. Mary them, get them to convert, and then dominate like no one’s business. It happened to one of my daughters.

OverIt
OverIt
6 years ago
Reply to  Sunshine Kid

I hope she got away from that situation.

Sunshine Kid
Sunshine Kid
6 years ago
Reply to  OverIt

She did. A Marine friend of mine teamed up with me to clarify the situation to the guy. He said he wasn’t afraid of us, but he left right quick and never came back. Then I sat her down and showed her from the Internet what she had no knowledge of, and opened her eyes to life as a muslim woman. She’s fine now, with a new boyfriend.

It’s funny how showing her videos posted by muslims about muslims and how other muslims treat themselves and their women is an education to the uninitiated.

Muslims need to understand that the American military, although separate services, respect and back each other up wherever needed. And that is what makes us a great power – camaraderie, competitiveness and honor.

Malsikcuf
Malsikcuf
6 years ago
Reply to  Sunshine Kid

And if they ever go to the muslim husbands home country, God forbid kids are involved, it’s pretty much over.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  motherofmany13

I used to know a WW2 vet who married an Egyptian Jewish woman who had previously been married to a muslum in Egyptistain against her will. The f’ing Egyptian muslum vermin had political pull and threatened her family because she was a young and pretty thing, but she took her beatings w/defiance and finally the muslum bastard dragged her out of his house into the streets of Cairo and triple-talaq’d her. She was left w/nothing but the clothes on her back and never saw her children again.

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago
Reply to  motherofmany13

It is STANDARD in the west, the number of female muslims is very low as 1) mostly males invade and 2( illegal gender abortion is used indiscriminately( I have seen the boy/girl birth records at two hospitals in my country and 85-90% are boys)as most want males so that they can marry igorant western women and convert them thus doubling the muslim vote. the way some women go on about the Valentino myth is disgusting

TNcowboy
TNcowboy
6 years ago

So “it” doesn’t feel safe discussing It’s threats to shut down a discourse on facts.

Guess it has it’s safe space….unlike the gays in the murderous countries alluded to.

TNcowboy
TNcowboy
6 years ago
Reply to  TNcowboy

BTW
I can’t bring myself to refer to this cretin professor as human

Sarge McVey
Sarge McVey
6 years ago

This is a problem not just at the University of Texas at San Antonio, but runs through every University in the United States.

Winghunter
Winghunter
6 years ago
Reply to  Sarge McVey

Operation Trojan Horse: Islamist infiltration of schools feared by British
“It sounds much like what CAIR does in the United States and it works on liberals who run the education systems in the U.K. and the U.S.,” claims a university security director, Darlene Poulos, a former police detective assigned to an anti-terrorism unit. “After all, liberals appear to show cowardice masquerading as thoughtfulness in their effort to avoid confrontations with radical Muslims.”
http://www.examiner.com/article/operation-trojan-horse-islamist-infiltration-of-schools-feared-by-british

Sarge McVey
Sarge McVey
6 years ago
Reply to  Winghunter

Very true, and this has been the case not just for Islam, but also for the Socialist and others that are small in over all numbers in the UK and US, but my do they ever have a loud voice.

Dr. Strangelove
Dr. Strangelove
6 years ago
Reply to  Sarge McVey

Not Hillsdale.

Sarge McVey
Sarge McVey
6 years ago

Hillsdale is the only one, and if I was much younger and not married with tons of responsibilities I actually would enroll in Hillsdale full time, as it is I do take some of their offered free online courses.

Dr. Strangelove
Dr. Strangelove
6 years ago
Reply to  Sarge McVey

There are a few conservative universities but they are certainly in the minority.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

When it comes down to a face-off between the LGBT community and muslums it’s obvious who the atheist left will be siding with.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago

You know education has gone off the rails when university stops being the “marketplace of ideas” and becomes an environment where truth telling is a punishable offense.

Fromafar
Fromafar
6 years ago

“1984” has arrived.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Fromafar

You’re not kidding either. I’d almost rather live in the PRC…

Alleged-Comment
Alleged-Comment
6 years ago

Amazing! TRUTH must be SUPPRESSED for the sake of cultural diversity. Which is CODE WORD for DEATH TO THE WEST.

What mad-e the professor turn this way despite having a privileged life and position the West has given her? It is her that should be dismissed.

Winghunter
Winghunter
6 years ago

Muslims kill more people per year than 350 yrs of the Spanish Inquisition
http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2014/10/muslims-kill-more-people-annually-than.html

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Winghunter

That is a historical fact.

Winghunter
Winghunter
6 years ago

What Muslims Leaders Say About Islam Dispels The Myth That Jihadists Are The ‘Fringe’
“This list should disabuse anyone of the notion that the incessant intolerance, hatred, and even violence against non-Muslims is “fringe.” This is not just a small group of “radicals.” This is Islam, plain and simple. The leaders quoted below are hugely popular, even famous mainstream leaders in the Islamic world. For each quote, I’ve provided an online source. Let’s begin:..”
http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2010/10/what-muslim-leaders-say-about-islam.html

Robert Batchelor
Robert Batchelor
6 years ago

I guess the good professor got what we call karma—-what goes around, comes around! So now she’s afraid to speak because of repercussions. Unfortunately, she’s still in her position.

pipo
pipo
6 years ago

What a crap university: they have a behaviour team. The so-called professor looks like a left wing lunatic. Why not as well shoot up the whole place, figure of speach (of course)

Mal M
Mal M
6 years ago

We live in the era of dictatorship by Left Liberals Academia.

CrushAllDems
CrushAllDems
6 years ago

Actually, this silly, stupid, and uneducated cow probably doesn’t even know that mooslims kill gays. I mean, that’s what you get when your only source of “news” is the New York Times, CNN, and NPR…

chicobill
chicobill
6 years ago

Students on the San Antonio campus should insist Browning be removed because of religious and sexual discrimination. We have to quit covering for Islam. It seeks to destroy freedom

David
David
6 years ago

All she has to do is explain. She, or maybe more appropriately her university president, should be pressured until she does so or leaves her position of authority in the university. Revoking her tenure might be difficult but at least she could be returned to the classroom and another department member appoointed as department chair.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

In war and snowflake universities, truth is the first casualty. Even the lame steam media report on muslim atrocities, what is really atrocious is the stupidity of some university professors. Every bigot like Dr. Browning enforces and advertises the idea that muslims are a problem.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

I wonder what universities and public schools across the economic power house countries of SE Asia teach about muslums and islum? Religion of peace lie?
I almost forgot, Happy Caturday (a 4Chan meme):
http://xspblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/caturday-9.jpg

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Ah yes, the bleak end, Thanksgiving in Canada, happy Caterwauling day to you.

Dan Knight
Dan Knight
6 years ago

LGBTWTF guy speaks truth to power – and Lefty gave him the ‘cold shoulder’ treatment – i.e. signaling his impending ostracism.

Let this be a warning to ALL USEFUL IDIOTS … your time at the top of the Cultural (Marxist) Ponzi Scheme is limited.

Once You Are No Longer Useful … you will be thrown overboard.

Daiseymae
Daiseymae
6 years ago

McDonald was only telling the truth.

Tm.
Tm.
6 years ago

Professors have way too much power. She should be let go since she wants to expel this student for saying something we all know to be true. It sounds as if she is highly biased. Following this train of thought, a student would have been expelled if he had mentioned that Nazis killed Jews.
Where are the safety nets to help this student? Is the ACLU going to protect his rights? Unless people stand up to this abuse, they and many others will be trampled.
Universities in this country are bastions of leftist ideology, just look at how antifa disrupted and disallowed free speech at Berkeley. Everyone should have right to be heard and discussion should be allowed.
This is simply unbelievable, and I am saddened and shocked that this young man has no one to represent him such as CAIR or Tell Mamma, or other such groups. Has this been reversed, they would have heard about it to the ends of the earth.
This action needs to be challenged. That’s why we need conservative lawyers, imho.

Tm.
Tm.
6 years ago
Reply to  Tm.

Should say, “Had this been reversed…”

Brodie Die Brodie No Die
Brodie Die Brodie No Die
6 years ago

Eve, who has now chomped on the fruit of the Tree Of Knowledge and known evil.
Eve, who is now Browning, skewered like a kebab on a spit slowly rotating in Hellfire.

-Hey guys, her ass is on fire -shall we call the fire-brigade?
-I’ll speak to the Vice-Chancellor and we’ll see. Call back tomorrow.

Andrew Sears
Andrew Sears
6 years ago

muslim believers do murder gays, Christians, Jewish people, and innocent people. that is the truth. Do not insult my intelligence by forcing me to think otherwise. I cannot love a people who want to rape and kill me.

Cai
Cai
6 years ago

Dr Eve Browning – typical bully, she is a coward and also portrays herself as a victim.

Just SAying
Just SAying
6 years ago

Why has she not been fired?

Lancelot Blackeburne
Lancelot Blackeburne
6 years ago

What he is saying about gays in Islamic countries is demonstrably true, but I suppose truth is not a defense in today’s universities.

Yazz55
Yazz55
6 years ago

This should be the headline…that the media will refuse to use

–>Student threatened with expulsion for making a factually correct statement.<–

The real underlying issue is that it contradicts the narrative. That is the unforgivable sin.

MerchantseamenD
Merchantseamen
6 years ago

So..she threatened him with dismissal if he did not think (believe) like her? Which jeopardized his chosen career and possibly his lively hood? (buy,sell and trade) Hmm…so he could have said sure I will “behave” but he still was uncomfortable in what he wrote and or spoke. Just how long would she “believe” him without some kind of proof? Ya know like an oath or say a mark on the skin like a tattoo. Just say’in.

Sharon ODonnell
Sharon ODonnell
6 years ago

Sooo Fired. DR.Eve Browning.
Socrates had to commit suicide , For corrupting the Youth .
@399BC ,
but she should know that .
Accepting and defending A violent death cult , That’s a teacher we want?
Let Young people express their fears. .This isn’t Germany or the EU .A full discussion, as well as critical thinking on the benefits of importing unsuitable , unwelcome 3rd world invaders.who Will kill you for being Gay .Will throw Acid in your face for rejecting unwelcome sexual advances.
And The belief in gang raping unesorted females…all common over there.
Add That A 7 year old .
Can legally be Married to a muslim pervert…
Then Yes, Do talk about what’s acceptable .All the above Are Not. .#RepelTheInvaders.

GTC
GTC
6 years ago

Well now we see how the left ranks murdering muslims and the lgbs community.

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