A Beacon in a Storm of Islam and Liberalism: Sebastian Kurz

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Dateline, Vienna, Austria – 2017: There is a new kid on the block in Europe, one who quietly assumed his post and works in persistent ways to ensure Europe gets the protection it needs from Islam and the encroaching invasions of Muslim immigrants in search of their profitable human rights in the West. This means that there is still hope for a fighting chance to be had in Europe against the foul breath of Islam heaving fitfully in Europe’s face. His name is Sebastian Kurz, and he is an Austrian (a man of ancient German heritage) who takes issue with the abuses of the system that the Muslims in the West get away with because of decades of permissive policies by the Left. The 31-year old Austrian foreign minister who seeks to run for the presidency of Austria as its possible youngest chancellor is a maverick conservative politician interested in reforming the policies of Austria and the EU towards a greater security for the European peoples and their traditional culture. He recognizes Islam as an ideological enemy and makes statements as well as acts in that vein (seeking to reduce Islam’s reach into Europe). For some time now, he has been praising and supporting the Serbs publicly, praising their role as Europe’s guardians of the gate and seeking to help them fight-off the threat from Islam. Earlier in the year, Sebastian went on a fact-finding trip to Macedonia to inspect her borders and make recommendations to the EU for greater border security including the threat of Muslim “refugees”.

Kurz’s party, Austrian People’s Party (ÖVP), is an extremely complex organization, dependent on municipal and regional bodies. It defeated the far-right party in prior elections. Kurz consolidated the decision-making functions under the party leader, namely, himself. That’s not to say he’s given himself extreme powers, but it has given him a bigger say over who runs for the ÖVP at the national election. In the past six months, Kurz has taken power of his conservative party and pushed for a snap election in October, 2017 (which was then approved by parliament). He has also replaced the ÖVP on the ballot with the “Sebastian Kurz List.” And he has a momentum in Austria’s closed political world. Will he win a national office this month?

Muslims in Europe have already taken note of the young defender of Europe’s values and ideas, and treat him with alarm and disdain in their press, especially in the neighboring Balkans where the anxious article below appeared in Balkan Muslim press. Muslims see Mr. Kurz as the epitome of the ebullient new right in Europe which is a threat to their long-term encroachment with their bid for a takeover of Europe.

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Dangerous policy of Minister Kurz: “Serbia is the anchor of stability in the Balkans, and Muslims are the source of danger and radicalism”

The tweets-loving Austrian Foreign Minister Sebastian Kurz is known for his aggressive approach to Muslims and Islam. This young Austrian politician is building a career by spreading hatred towards Muslims. His statements are known in which he criticized the construction of mosques in Bosnia and Herzegovina. The Islamic Community in Bosnia (“BiH”) was forced to react repeatedly and deny the lies made up by Minister Kurz on Islam and Muslims. Kurz has carried out a new attack on Muslims in our country over recent days by fabricating information that Saudi Arabia and Turkey are paying Muslims in the Balkans to cover themselves. This policy of the Austrian foreign minister was especially addressed to the Republic of Srpska (an entity inside the Bosnian Confederation) and Serbia itself. Bosnian Serb prime minister Dodik considers such comments priceless for his Serb cause. Sebastian Kurz does not hide his enthusiasm for Serbs. For him, Serbs are strategic partners and an anchor of stability in the Balkans. He did not hide the enthusiasm and words of praise during the recent visit of Serbia’s prime minister Aleksandar Vucic to Vienna.

Vucic in Vienna was told by Kurz: You are the anchor of stability in the Balkans, and Austria will help Serbia protect her borders. The minister of foreign affairs of Austria, Sebastian Kurz, congratulated today the prime minister of Serbia, Aleksandar Vucic, on his electoral victory for the post of the new Serbian government’s leader, while quipping that the president of the Serbian government is “an anchor of stability in the Balkans.”

We as Muslims of Bosnia hope that this policy is only a manifestation of the personal commitment of Minister Sebastian Kurz and that Austria as a country does not plot a course of enmity towards Muslims in the Balkans. For Austria or anyone else to join in an alliance with the Serbs and Croats by taking the view that Muslims are dangerous radicals will cause great harm to everyone in our region, and also in Europe.

Sebastian Kurz

 

Opasna politika ministra Kurza: Srbija sidro stabilnosti na Balkanu, a muslimani izvor opasnosti i radikalizma

 

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S N Smith
S N Smith
6 years ago
Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  S N Smith

Where’s the fun in that? muslims are bottom feeders, they will suck up anything.

Sunshine Kid
Sunshine Kid
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Lawyers are comparable to catfish, if you think about it. One is a bọttọm-fẹẹding, slimẹ-cọvẹrẹd scavẹngẹr – the other is a fish.

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago
Reply to  S N Smith

Not when that article is written by such and published in such: no bias there? You are kidding yourself. There would be mobs howling blood in the streets if the child were muslim and placed in a Christian family.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

https://www.amaliah.com/post/30454/christian-girl-placed-foster-care-family-muslim 1500 Muslim children were fostered by non Muslims. The grandmother of the Christian child–in the article– was a Muslim and the court awarded her to her. Family relationships ! Wonder why the child ended up in foster care in the first place ?

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

yes as soon as I posted that I was told the same thing by a friend…I guess the point of difference here is that a Christian would not force conversion onto the child. But can we say the same if it were reversed?

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

Glad of the corroboration—saved me a cussin ‘ .One instance, denies coercion but in such situations, can you discourage interest ? Fostered children are vulnerable, seeking stability and example to follow. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/4559867/Christian-foster-mother-struck-off-after-Muslim-girl-converts.html

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  S N Smith

You mean ALL newspapers?

CanadaGoose1
CanadaGoose1
6 years ago

Probably will be killed by a jihadist.

Ebayer
Ebayer
6 years ago
Reply to  CanadaGoose1

Keep an eye on Merkel. Oh, hi Angela…. nice to see you, dear. Hi…
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Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  Ebayer

The only person in this picture who really annoys me is this woman!

Dennis
Dennis
6 years ago

Assuming and hoping this nationalistic fervor does not move into Nazism, and that this movement is truly being led by someone who clearly sees the “refugee” problem as one that involves Islamic Supremacy and Domination, with the overthrow of western civilization, I hope this is the beginning of a kind of constructive national Islamophobia, which we need here in the states, within Europe which will save them from being consumed by the political belief system that is Islam. He is sounding like another Trump, who sees what is happening out there, and is recognizing that it needs to be stopped. Unfortunately, he, like Trump, is and will be running up against the liberals in his society who do not understand or see what they are facing, as is the case in the U.S.A. I am fortified by the Muslim papers commentary, which, to me, is an admission that Islam, as usual, when spoken against, claims foul. Maybe we all should take heart in the Muslim papers commentary. This political belief system must be stopped and, I, for one, wish this new “lion” good luck in his quest to save the Europe that he knows.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
6 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

I “upped” you, but I do have one quibble with you. A phobia is an irrational fear. Fear of Islam- mankind’s most enduring totalitarian ideology- is not at all irrational.

As for the concern that “nationalistic fervor” will devolve into Naziism, while the possibility cannot be fully discounted, I am not seeing that from the European right today.. I admit, I am not a close observer of that movement, but Victor Orban simply does not strike me as an Adolph Hitler.

Dennis
Dennis
6 years ago

As I have said before, I pride myself in my Islamophobia, as my fear is RATIONALLY related to the conduct of the radicals that are committing barbaric acts against innocents, and to a belief system that intends to dominate free world society. Whether you consider my fear as rational or not is of no account. I will continue to express my concerns, and I honorably admit to being Islamophobic.

DCW left coast
DCW left coast
6 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

“Nationalism” was not the Problem . . . “Socialism” WAS !

NAZI = National SOCIALIST !
Communist = International SOCIALIST !
Democrat Party, Libs & NDP = SOCIALIST !

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  DCW left coast

Before I listened to Americans, I was perfectly convinced that the Nazis were right-wing extremists. Now, I see them somewhere in the tradition of the eternal revolutionists, starting with the Jacobines of the French revolution, festering into socialism during the 19th century and coming to deadly fruition in the 20th. It’s a school of thought and many fascists acknowledged it. Now we are too cowed to talk about it.

DCW left coast
DCW left coast
6 years ago

Some even believe that Woodrow Wilson was the first fascist . . . .

Fascism was a nationalist form of extreme socialism whereas Trotskyism was/is a internationalist form of extreme socialism — with Leninism being somewhere in between.

So was Mussolini a totally original thinker? Not at all. Students of ancient history see Sparta as the first Fascist State and students of Marx identify Fascism with “Bonapartism” (See Appendix 3 below) — the type of regime devised by Napoleon Bonaparte and revived by his nephew Napoleon III. But Mussolini was quite intellectual and his thinking was in fact much more up-to-date than that would suggest. He was certainly influenced by Marx and the ancient world but he had a whole range of ideas that extended beyond that. And where did he turn for up-to-date ideas? To America, of course! And the American ideas that influenced him were in fact hard to miss. They were the ideas of the American “Progressives”. And who was the best known Progressive in the world at that time? None other than the President of the United States — Woodrow Wilson — the man who was most responsible for the postwar order in Europe. So Mussolini had to do little more than read his newspapers to hear at least some things about the ideas of the very influential American Progressives. And who were the Progressives? Here is one summary of them:

“Originally, progressive reformers sought to regulate irresponsible corporate monopoly, safeguarding consumers and labor from the excesses of the profit motive. Furthermore, they desired to correct the evils and inequities created by rapid and uncontrolled urbanization. Progressivism ….. asserted that the social order could and must be improved….. Some historians, like Richard Hofstadter and George Mowry, have argued that the progressive movement attempted to return America to an older, more simple, agrarian lifestyle. For a few progressives, this certainly was true. But for most, a humanitarian doctrine of social progress motivated the reforming spirit”
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In the post-WW2 era, internationalism and a scorn for patriotism has become very dominant among far-Leftists, but that was not always so. From Napoleon to Hitler there were also plenty of nationalist and patriotic versions of Leftism.

That was part of what was behind the various diatribes of Marx and Lenin against “Bonapartism”. “Bonapartism” was what we would now call Fascism and it was a rival reformist doctrine to Marxism long before the era of Hitler and Mussolini. It was more democratic (about as much as Hitler was), more romantic, more nationalist and less class-obsessed. The Bonapartist that Marx particularly objected to was in fact Napoleon III, i.e. Louis Napoleon Bonaparte, nephew of the original Napoleon. One of Louis’s campaign slogans was: “There is one name which is the symbol of order, of glory, of patriotism; and it is borne today by one who has won the confidence and affection of the people.” So, like the original Napoleon himself, the Bonapartists were both very nationalist and saw themselves as heirs to the French revolution. So it was very grievous for most communists when, in his later writings, the ultra-Marxist Trotsky identified not only Fascism but also the Soviet State as “Bonapartist”. That was one judgment in which Trotsky was undoubtedly correct, however!

There have always been innumerable “splits” in the extreme Leftist movement — and from the earliest days nationalism has often been an issue in those. Two of the most significant such splits occurred around the time of the Bolshevik revolution — when in Russia the Bolsheviks themselves split into Leninists and Trotskyites and when in Italy Mussolini left Italy’s major Marxist party to found the “Fascists”. So the far Left split at that time between the Internationalists (e.g. Trotskyists) and the nationalists (e.g. Fascists) with Lenin having a foot in both camps. And both Marx and Engels themselves did in their lifetimes lend their support to a number of wars between nations. So any idea that a nationalist cannot be a Leftist is pure fiction.

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  DCW left coast

This is an amazing analysis. I know for sure that Mussolini and Goebbels were Marxists. I can’t really tell what makes fascism special. I mean that I wouldn’t know the ideas that came from Wilson that made it into fascism.

In my opinion the Nazis were first and foremost socialists. They tied the oppressive class to the Jewish ethnicity and ran the program. In the wake of the power struggle with other socialists they had to go lengths to define their differences. So they talked much about the ‘Jewish’ bolsheviks. Essentially that was the difference. They mucked up biology to substantiate their claim to power.

I never looked much into Mussolini though. I’m not sure if he was still a socialist at the time when he came to power. He was more of a nihilist militarist. I think Hitler combined socialism with what he saw in Italy.

The problem with nationalism is that it is never clearly defined. What makes a nation more than a mere country? It is the combination of country, a people and a constitution. Was Hitler a nationalist? He disregarded borders, did not recognize large parts of his people as his own and sidelined the constitution. He also was not patriotic in the sense that he wanted his nation to prosper. He was tribal. He wanted the ‘bloodline’ to expand and to see his people struggle down competing tribes. His paranoid fear of the Jews also suggests that he was not as much convinced of German superiority as he claimed in public speeches. Rather to the contrary he believed that the German deserved extinction if they don’t win the war against competing tribes. He gave it a shot and lost. Utter madness.

DCW left coast
DCW left coast
6 years ago

Nationalism + Judeao/Christian Philosophy is what created the Western Democracies . . .
Love of country is what has enabled the USA to prosper for 100s of years.

Mussolini was a devout, committed Socialist long before he became Italy’s diktator.

“So, how many people today are aware that Mussolini, that great Fascist ogre, was in his youth an incandescent revolutionary socialist, a labor-union agitator who was jailed for his pains (Hibbert, 1962)? He was as radical as any student radical of today. Even in his childhood, he was expelled from two schools for his rebellious behaviour.

After that he became one of Italy’s most prominent Marxist theoreticians and an intimate of Lenin. He in fact first became well-known as “Il Duce” (the Leader) when he was a member of Italy’s (Marxist) Socialist Party and between 1912 and 1914 he was the editor of their newspaper, “L’Avanti”. After his split with the Socialist Party he started his own Leftist newspaper “Il Popolo d’Italia” (“The people of Italy”).

When he broke with the Socialist party in 1914, it was over whether or not Italy should enter World War I. Following Marx’s internationalist doctrines, the “Socialist” (Marxist) party was neutralist and anti-patriotic but Mussolini soon became uncomfortable with that for two reasons: 1). It had already become fairly clear even before the war that the workers were nationalistic and patriotic rather than class-conscious — so the Marxist vision of the workers of the world uniting regardless of nationality was just not going to happen. And all that was thoroughly confirmed when the mainstream Leftist parties of the various European countries lined up behind their respective national governments in World War I. So it was nationalism and patriotism rather than class-struggle that would most move the workers. And, as the aspiring leader of the workers, Mussolini had to follow that! 2). Mussolini correctly foresaw that the Austro/German forces would not win the war and therefore wanted Italy to join the Allied side and thus get a slice of Austrian territory at the end of the war. Italians had suffered many humiliations at the hands of the Austrians and there must have been very few Italians who did not share Mussolini’s desire to seize historically Italian territory from them. Like many Leftists then and since Mussolini did not have any principles that he allowed to stand in the way of a grab for power.”

Original translation of The Manifesto of the Fascist Struggle, published in The People of Italy on June 6, 1919.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2004/06/25291/#loIc5epjERywIPpr.99

“From the days of Marx onward, there were innumerable “splits” in the extreme Leftist movement but two of the most significant occurred around the time of the Bolshevik revolution — when in Russia the Bolsheviks themselves split into Leninists and Trotskyites and when in Italy Mussolini left Italy’s major Marxist party to found the “Fascists”. So from its earliest days Leftism had a big split over the issue of nationalism. It split between the Internationalists (e.g. Trotskyists) and the nationalists (e.g. Fascists) with Lenin having a foot in both camps. So any idea that a nationalist cannot be a Leftist is pure fiction.

And, in fact, the very title of Lenin’s famous essay, “Left-wing Communism, an infantile disorder” shows that Lenin himself shared the judgement that he was a Right-wing sort of Marxist. Mussolini was somewhat further Right again, of course, but both were to the Right only WITHIN the overall far-Left camp of the day.”

http://ray-dox.blogspot.ca/2006/06/this-is-expanded-version-of-article.html

“Was Hitler a nationalist? ”
Of course he was . . . he believed he was leading the master race and would create a 1000 year Reich. But also believed in German expansion.
And a quote from Hitler himself:
“Stalin and I are the only ones who envisage the future and nothing but the future. Accordingly, I shall in a few weeks stretch out my hand to Stalin at the common German-Russian frontier and undertake the redistribution of the world with him. “

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  DCW left coast

So in short a nationalist believes that his team should not govern the entire world but only his country. Therefore ISIS and Marxists are Internationalists, Mussolini and Trump are only nationalists.

DCW left coast
DCW left coast
6 years ago

A nationalist is a citizen and a Patriot . . . someone who loves their country . . .

As I have pointed out to you many times . . . Socialism/marxism/fascism is the problem.
ALL despotic regimes, whether National or International have a large Marxist component.

ISIS are mooohamedans . . . following their insane prophet.
Mussolinin was a Socialist . . . socialists are marxists . . .

Trump is a Patriot . . . an American Patriot who could be America’s last best hope.

ALL the Despots of the 20th Century came from the Insane LEFT . . . 100s of millions died and today in our public schools children are being programmed with marxist dogma. You just have to listen to them for a few minutes to see they are back in the 1930s.
Those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it.

What happened to the Party of JFK?
If he spoke today as he did in 1959 he would be called a radical right-winger by todays Marxist Democraps !

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  DCW left coast

If nationalsts are citizens and patriots, the Austrian Hitler was neither and therefore would not meet the definition.

I think Islamism also learnt a thing or two from socialism.
Many key thinkers were socialists. The founder of the Muslim Brotherhood was the first to translate Mein Kampf into Arabic. The victimhood cult is not part of the religion. The jihad, before a caliphate is established, is only defensive. You need the socialist component of class suppression to dream up a constant attack against the umma to justify it. The jihad as we see it today is a function of the class struggle and would not be religiously justified without all the minority suppression claims that we hear in the media.

Mussolini took a page from the insane left in that he came to power using force. When it just comes to the manifesto there is very little socialism in it. The early fascists had goals like giving women the right to vote. It was probably sheer power hunger and corruption why they did not reestablish a democratic society.

I think when it comes to Mussolini, the concepts left and right explain very little. Today’s left with their race obsession would be surprised that Mussolini was not even a racist. He introduced racist legislation to cozy up to his ally Hitler, but he despised it.

JFK would be considered a Nazi by today’s leftists. Maggie Thatcher, too. They have gone off the cliff. And American public schools definitely produce too many socialists!

DCW left coast
DCW left coast
6 years ago

“the Austrian Hitler was neither and therefore would not meet the definition.” ? ? ?
Hitler was a SOCIALIST !

Islam and Fascism are fellow travellers . . .

“In 1941, Haj Amin al-Husseini fled to Germany and met with Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Joachim Von Ribbentrop and other Nazi leaders. He wanted to persuade them to extend the Nazis’ anti-Jewish program to the Arab world.

The Mufti sent Hitler 15 drafts of declarations he wanted Germany and Italy to make concerning the Middle East. One called on the two countries to declare the illegality of the Jewish home in Palestine. Furthermore, “they accord to Palestine and to other Arab countries the right to solve the problem of the Jewish elements in Palestine and other Arab countries, in accordance with the interest of the Arabs and, by the same method, that the question is now being settled in the Axis countries.”1

In November 1941, the Mufti met with Hitler, who told him the Jews were his foremost enemy. The Nazi dictator rebuffed the Mufti’s requests for a declaration in support of the Arabs, however, telling him the time was not right. The Mufti offered Hitler his “thanks for the sympathy which he had always shown for the Arab and especially Palestinian cause, and to which he had given clear expression in his public speeches….The Arabs were Germany’s natural friends because they had the same enemies as had Germany, namely….the Jews….” Hitler replied:

Germany stood for uncompromising war against the Jews. That naturally included active opposition to the Jewish national home in Palestine….Germany would furnish positive and practical aid to the Arabs involved in the same struggle….Germany’s objective [is]…solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere….In that hour the Mufti would be the most authoritative spokesman for the Arab world. The Mufti thanked Hitler profusely.2”

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-mufti-and-the-f-uuml-hrer

Today the Socialist left in America is welcoming the MB and their many fundraising supporters.

WHY MUSLIMS ARE THE NEW NAZIS
http://conservativevideos.com/muslims-new-nazis/

MUSLIMS IN THE WHITE HOUSE:

It checks out with Google and Snopes…

Did you know that we now have a Muslim government?

John Brennan, current head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia .

Obama’s top advisor, Valerie Jarrett, is a Muslim who was born in Iran where her parents still live.

Hillary Clinton’s top advisor, Huma Abedin is a Muslim, whose mother and brother are involved in the now outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt .

Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan, is a Muslim.

Homeland Security Advisor, Mohammed Elibiary, is a Muslim. Obama advisor and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Salam al-Marayati, is a Muslim.

Obama’s Sharia Czar, Imam Mohamed Magid, of the Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim.

Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships, Eboo Patel, is a Muslim.

And last but not least, our closet Muslim himself, Barack Hussein Obama.

One more time . . . Patriotism and luv of country is NOT fascism . . .

The insane left hurls the “fascist” charge at everyone they disagree with . . . none of them has clue one about real history . . . and when you point the Truth out to them the come unhinged!
Closest thing in America to fascism today is the DNC !

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  DCW left coast

I think we cross talk. I said Hitler did not meet the definition of ‘nationalist’ that you gave me. We agreed already that he was wildly socialist (plus some extreme tribalism and maybe the aesthetics and mililtary culture from Italy).

I know that there are some Muslims on the helmet of the US government. I can’t confirm all the names you gave me (I don’t waste my time on such details). CAIR has a far to biggest clout in politics.

They don’t come unhinged. They are :). Apart from the military alliance during the war I don’t even see a cohesive fascist ideology. I think the left is paranoid. I’m sitting on the fence when it comes to history. As a Jew I know how important it is. But the totalitarians do everything to erase history (watch your statues), so it becomes very dangerous to talk about it. I have figure that it really is true for all history. Some people have interests in rewriting it. Always. So I usually shy back from talking. It seems that history must be passed on in the families and other trustworthy groups.

DCW left coast
DCW left coast
6 years ago

Hitler was a nationalist only to the point of his vision of the “Master Race” of Germans.
He himself did not fit the blue eyed, blond hair, athletic ideal German.
There is also some connection to the Occult in the SS, read something about Hitler’s connection to this years ago.

I got banned from f’book years ago for telling it like it is . . . leftists go nuts when you tell them the true history of Israel and the so-called palestinians . . .
Today, two things threaten the Western Democracies . . . Islam and the recycled marxist socialist idiocy.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

The Nazis haven’t been relevant in 70 years and f’ing muslums have slaughtered MILLIONS of people since then.

Nationalist
Nationalist
6 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

Get over your fear of nationalism. It’s the only thing that will defeat the spread of Islam. Get real, or get back, Jack.

Nationwide is on your side… (singing)

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

Actually I think that you have missed the point here: the ONLY way that the west will be able to fight back is with an authoritarian government that suspends human rights (hopefully temporarily although the collective leftist PC civil laws should be suspended indefinitely)) in that fight. All democracies are far too weak and gutless to fight the necessary civil war to remove the contamination of islam as it will require strong arm methods as muhammad will not take it lying down unless he does so permanently. That will require a probable military dictatorship and the parallels with national socialism will flood the MSM however UNTRUE they may be. Face it, ANY determined European resistance to islam will require the suspension of human rights for such individuals and it makes NO difference if islam is a race/ideology/religion as the Leftist /MSM coalition will still LIE their heads off that it is racist. The irony that islam is a racist, supremacist ideology will totally escape them as it always has.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

I agree but it’s not only that “democracies are far too weak and gutless” but that they’ve been infiltrated, co-opted and subverted by muslums and traitorous muslum collaborators.
Millions of Germans, not all of them nazis, had to die to defeat the Third Reich.

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Democracy has always been weak: it is heavily flawed and especially so in the party system and I agree more so when education and the media are in the hands of the lunatic left. For any historian not a leftist whore, it is well known that democracies without Nukes would have crumbled at the casualties that beating Germany and Japan would have required. That was why Churchill lost in 1945 and why the nukes were used. Everyone knew that ONLY an equally ruthless dictator could sacrifice the men required to take Germany. Despite the movie rubbish the USSR beat Germany(with allied supplies I admit) and it cost them: the German casualties at Stalingrad alone were >than ALL of the allied casualties in WW2 while every spring ploughing exposes more soviet dead and the true number will never be know or even admitted. No democracy could have done that as the citizens are far too spoilt and now they are far worse with exaggerated views on their rights and needs.

Dennis
Dennis
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

What you are suggesting and countenancing amounts to a dictatorial government, with essentially one person or group of persons making all the decisions that you believe will have the effect of saving us from the political philosophy that is encompassed in Islam. That concept frightens me, as dictatorship’s have proved throughout history to be deleterious to many people who live within that society. I just cannot see that happening here, and I cannot condone or accept what you are proposing, though I admire your willingness to speak out, but I cannot accept your logic, as, to me, the cure that you propose is worse then the disease.
I believe that, we the people, need to make our fear of Islam very prominent to our leaders, though I recognize that our leaders have only one main interest, and that is getting re-elected and not working for the people to make this country a better place; nevertheless, we must first accept the fact that Islam is a political system, not a religion per se, that unless it rejects it’s Supremacy/Domination/Jihadi beliefs, it is no different then Nazism, and it most be stopped cold. The method that should be used, while we still can, is to declare specifically within our laws that our legal system will consider CRIMINAL any attempts by any belief system, even those represented to be “religions,” to promote, preach or direct any attempts to overthrow, affirmatively conduct themselves to convert others, and any attempts to claim dominance as all these criminal acts will be prosecuted. Additionally, I would close our borders to those Islamic refugees until they re-write their belief system to reflect a total rejection of their claims of Supremacy/Domination/Jihadi intent/ etc.
To me that is the reality and our nation should accept it now.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

As your democracy is infiltrated/subverted/co-opted by f’ing muslums it will become indistinguishable from islamic “republics” and I’d argue that is already coming true (in the USA in places like Dearbornistan, Michigan).

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

So what is your substitute ? A totalitarian system as in Syria, North Korea, Iran (with a bishop in place of the Ayatollah to keep you right ? ) The masses are obviously too stupid to decide what’s good for them. Exactly what socialists believe.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

A secular military dictatorship instead of an islamic “republic”.
Funny how you complain about totalitarianism on the one hand, but defend f’ing muslums on the other.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

So you complain our freedoms are being usurped by the left, in order to protect and elevate Islam, but will voluntarily give up those freedoms to a military dictatorship ? That is exactly what Germans did in 1933.Does that not strike you as cowardly, apathetic, etc. ? To destroy democracy is the ambition of Islamic jihad, and socialism. They do not want people who can think independently, demand rights, have choice. Nor would a dictator. Substitution, instead of solution–the easy way out.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

I doubt your theory about Stalingrad, it was only one German army that was annihilated (roughly 90,000 men). The UK lost 383,000 men in total, most of them fighting the Nazis because JP quickly defeated the few UK forces in SE Asia. Poland lost 240,000 men fighting the Nazis.
Source:
http://worldwar2-database.blogspot.com/2010/10/world-war-ii-casualties.html
Before any nukes were dropped on JP they were clearly told to surrender. Warning leaflets were dropped on the cities so bombed:
https://www.damninteresting.com/retired/ww2-america-warned-hiroshima-and-nagasaki-citizens/

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disqus_1VhMJcA5Yv
6 years ago
Reply to  Dennis

the “fascism already exists in antifa…islam… rome…and various other branches in a tree of fools.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

Good, it is time that there were some real politicians running countries, not multicultural sucks.

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6 years ago
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Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

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Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Don’t get your hopes up. until Austrian get smart and vote him in he will remain like Marie Le pen .

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Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Mahou, a pity then that there aren’t any “real politicians running” Canada, because all we see is half-baked, “multicultural sucks” and imbeciles duped by Muslims and capitulating to Islam. Just watch Motion 103 in Ottawa morph into “Islamophobia” legislation and silence all criticism of Islam and vile Muslim. Other than in the Toronto Sun we see no intelligent criticism of Islam or of the stupid direction of Motion 103 and even in the Sun it is muted. Write a letter to the Sun on this subject and unless tepid and very carefully phrased they won’t publish it. I ended up telling them they’re “a gutless lot of cowards”, so now I’m definitely banned. No less with the National Post that long ago I told the same thing. Meanwhile in Canada where is there a politician like Sebastian Kurz? Where do you see citizens preparing to fight against the direction Canada is going? Most individuals prefer ignorance and accompanying silence. This way they don’t have to get into nasty confrontations – that in any event are anathema to most Canadians.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter
Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Thanks for this. There are at least two things about Muslims such as Tarek Fatah and those attending his speech that I don’t understand, why after reading the Qur’an and seeing its hatred, bigotry, intolerance and urgings to murder, its Judeophobia and Christophobia, would any Muslim remain a Muslim. In an e-mail to Tarek Fatah, for whom I have some admiration, I asked him this question, but never got a response. Why would any thinking Muslims remain a Muslim after seeing all it mindless savagery round the world. As to the whites who Fatah said almost apologize to Muslims for being white, they must be Canadians, in which case, thank God, I am South African and will not be apologizing to any Muslims for considering their ‘religion’ a pile of dung. I have listened to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan and other former Muslim, so have not the slightest doubt that Islam is a rotten to the core, Satan-driven, man-made ideology, the history of which does not withstand scrutiny because, as Christopher Hitchens once said on tv, “It’s all bullshit”.

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

In the end it is multi-layered. You can nominally leave a religion but have you left your thought structures behind? No. Most Muslims do cherry pick the aspects of tradition and rituals that play a positive role in their lives.

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago

My feeling is that if an individual has instilled in them the Judeo-Christian values that I embrace and concerning which Islam has none, you have within and deeply ingrained moral values and a moral compass that make Islam utterly repugnant. No one who has these values instilled and then both reads the Qur’an and studies Islam’s savage history, can be anything but disgusted by the teachings, the resulting mindset and the hate-filled and depraved actions.
I have in file scores of verses from the Qur’an, all read, so marvel that supposedly educated Muslims who have read the Qur’an don’t reject the ‘religion”, but the harsh reality is that they do not possess the moral compass Judeo-Christian teachings ingrain and renders those of Islam unacceptable to truly civilized people. The Muslim seen in this video live a peculiar kind of contradiction, sincere, pursuing decency, rejecting jihad and the savagery, yet continuing to be Muslim. As long as they persist in the beliefs of Islam they are not truly civilized.

pandainc3
pandainc3
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

Wishful thinking. First, I agree that people inculcated into Judeo-Christian ethics sees islam as a sham. Whoopie for our side. Having never seen as muslim get born this is only hearsay, but I’m told that the first thing the kid hears is his father whispering this in his ear: “There is but one god, allah, and mohammed is his prophet.” And the indoctrination continues. Just where is this muslim supposed to learn elsewise, especially when an Iranian ouchitoilet tells the world that, if it were not for the death sentence for apostasy, there would be no islam.

“The Muslim seen in this video live a peculiar kind of contradiction, sincere, pursuing decency, rejecting jihad and the savagery, yet continuing to be Muslim. As long as they persist in the beliefs of Islam they are not truly civilized.” No, my friend. He doesn’t believe that contradiction — he wants you to believe he does.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago

Don’t we all ? We even decide to ignore the negative aspect of our faiths on other people. For centuries Christian faiths used the Jew as a kind of kapporot chicken , to expiate their sins, failings. Even after it culminated in the Holocaust, few would admit culpability. A snippet of poem says it “Why not bow down where thy fathers bowed, why dare paths in the wilderness ? ” Can’t remember its author. Tradition !

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

He’s a lad, our Chris ! A lot of his stuff online. As an atheist, I try to understand why any of it. But can only think of choice of faith as need versus logic. Plus, people need to feel something bigger than the tiny individual, so if they are reared in one religion, they can acknowledge its shortcomings, while remaining faithful to its perceived core values. All faiths deal with this dichotomy by disowning the negative aspects and all who follow them. . I can remember baiting my teachers–nuns– by reminding them that Hitler, Goebbels etc. were devout Catholics—would they also go to Heaven as per the Catechism ? Not amused, never answered. Bit like marriage, maybe– it may not provide all the juvenile ideals, but comfort, stability, friendship counts. Trying to understand Islam online is rather like studying someone with uncontrolled multiple personality disorder–angelic to demonic and all points between. It must involve cherry picking as Benjamin suggests. This “white guilt” trip is the socialists’ mantra, to induce us to destroy civilization as we know it. To even acknowledge it is to assist them .

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Erica, you got a few of your ‘facts’ somewhat messed up. Many “people” don’t need to feel “something bigger than the tiny individual” that are themselves, pure logic tells them that these complex bodies we possess, the natural things we see all around us and the universe didn’t just come about without an architect. Further, people remain faithful to their core values while acknowledging the shortcomings because they understand how imperfect is the nature of human beings. Further still, Hitler and Goebbels were not “devout Catholics”, they were atheists who spurned religion – hence why Jews and so many Christians landed up in the concentration camps with Jews. Your nun teachers were not well informed if they didn’t know this. The “white guilt” trip never has influenced me one iota, particularly after through study and observation coming to appreciate the failings of other races. A lot of ignorance contributes to the white guilt trip, so does the peculiar mindset that now afflicts Western civilization, not least its embracing of the socialists’ mantra. Reading once atheist and communist, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s views on Western decline is helpful in this regard. So too Malcolm Muggeridge, once an atheist, cynic, iconoclast and womanizer, who makes some fascinating observations.

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

Hitler and Goebbels were neither devout nor atheist. They come from a German tradition of waning faith that formed the culture of the 19th century (Marx, Nietzsche …). Reform Judaism also developed at the time. Hitler and Goebbels were light-touch Catholics.

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago

Benjamin, if they were not initially atheist, then they degenerated into a form of paganism in which German youth were encouraged to pray to the Fuhrer as if he were a god. “Light-touch” Catholics like light touch any other religious adherents are simply ‘nominal’ followers, nothing else. Hitler’s actions before and while gaining power tells us he was no Christian. Mein Kampf tells us the rest.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

Only theists believe in the singular architect, whatever its name. The rest seek evidence in science, which tells us the how. The what or why remain hypotheses. Whether a Nazi-any Nazi- could also be conventionally religious has become a hilarious reverse tug of war between Christian historians and objective ones. The natural instinct is to recoil and repudiate. Rather like parents disowning an obstreperous child “YOUR son has been bad today ” Between the reams of propaganda and avowed belief, both cases have merit. Children, like Martin Bormann jr. saw his father as a normal, caring Christian father. How many of our politicians have to closet their beliefs to seek positions of power ? ( Probably why Rees- Mogg is such a novelty. ) Obviously ALL opposition had to be suppressed if Hitler was to be seen as omnipotent. My nuns could not consciously lie–part of their vow. Would that more “religious” folk “understand how imperfect is the nature of human beings “–there might be more actual tolerance as opposed to recitation of the dogma. My experience on and offline is the reverse. As to Muggeridge—giving Agnes

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Believe me, “the rest” of atheists do NOT seek evidence in science – and they’ve never worked out “the how”. Most are not even happy individuals, actually very intolerant and humourless, wallowing in personal prejudice or opinion – as if threatened by an opposing view. I really enjoyed most of what Christopher Hitchens wrote on politics and Islam, but he was a religious bigot who talked a lot of rubbish on the matter. I think your opinion on Malcolm Muggeridge is based upon personal prejudice, better you go to YouTube and listen to Ravi Zacharias on atheism.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

All this “seeking truth ” is just so much baloney. Everyman seeks corroboration of the opinion he / she / it has already semi formed. Hence you, a Christian and I, an unbeliever will share only scepticism, except when we gang up on a third party !

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Erica, this: “Everyman seeks corroboration of the opinion he / she / it has already semi formed” is in fact not true, but a fairly common argument. I’m don’t feel any need for confirmation of what I’ve come to believe is true. I’ve seen the alternatives and am confident that atheism that is imbedded in Marxism, for example, has nothing to offer mankind. I’m also confident that what exist didn’t just happen, but if you asked me why it all came about and exactly how it came about I’d be solidly stumped.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

I envy your certainty, but are you atypical ? Even Justin Welby, Archbishop of Canterbury, admits to moments of doubt in his faith. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29255318 Have you ever participated on these forums which discuss, science, religion, climate change, politics, all sorts ? Most are fairly civilized, except for religion. You might blame the intemperance of ideas, language, the lack of compassion or tolerance for others’ views, on passion. I blame it on insecurity. They revert immediately someone agrees with them. Jeckyl and Hyde !

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

My certainty is the the existence of God, but many other things I make no claim to understand and at times I am at a loss to fathom why cruel things happen or are allowed to happen to decent people. I don’t have any difficulty understanding why this Archbishop has moments of doubt. I’ll say this, Erica, you are one of the most civilized atheist I’ve encountered and I appreciate this. Many are just rude if you don’t see things their way. My attitude is that individuals are entitled to think what they do. I just ask that they respect my right to think what I do. One thing is certain, I don’t believe in the existence of God because I need a crutch, I just ago concluded that he’s there and what has come out of this are civilized rules of conduct, notions of decency, fair play, honesty and straightforwardness.
I’ve never participated in the forums you mentioned and it would be quite difficult, because widowed in a tragedy, through another tragedy I have two grandchildren, 8 & 9 in my permanent custody – and I try to run a business!

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

I am sorry for your and your grandchildren’s loss. Life is cruel. I can rationalize away bad things happening to me–something I did or did not do, took a wrong turning, etc. , but it is when others–the innocent suffer, it all becomes too incomprehensible. We have obviously both been interacting with the nadir of spiritual opponents ! Which begs the question—if co existence is so fraught for people reared in the same culture, how on earth can it be mandated for peoples of such diametrically opposed cultures ?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Yeah and Hitler was kind to his dogs…

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

No human is one dimensional.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

If you’re a f’ing muslum you’re a fascist by definition because islum is a fascist ideology toots.
You have never answered the question I’ve REPEATEDLY put to you:
If there are good muslums why aren’t there any good muslum states?
Funny how you cry for the f’ing muslums but not for the tens of millions of people being persecuted/enslaved by muslums allah over the muslum world.
NJOI your muslum future in the United Kaliphate.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

I have answered that one–ad nauseam. Can’t help you if you cannot understand. There are no “good “Muslim states, because a) good Muslims do not threaten or kill, they are killed or subjugated. (primary definition ) b) We “free “people only support the winners, not losers, ergo we keep the killers in power. Look at the Israeli- Palestine affair. Palestine is supported by the majority of Muslim states, so morality and right be dxxned— we support the Palestinians. (don’t want to lose the oil or all that Arab money invested in our unis., businesses, do we ? )By right, the Kurds should have had their own state years ago, but our Arab allies don’t like it, so we cower and shut up. Remember Bush using the Marsh Arabs, then ditching them, once they became inconvenient ? Why hasn’t Trump had the guts to condemn Saudi Arabia , demand compensation for 9/11 ? The USA is powerful, its people so free and opinionated.We make noises, but do we really care what Erdogan is doing to 70,000 people he arrested for resisting the Islamization of Turkey ? If people like you refuse to even admit “good ” Muslims exist, how can you expect a “good ” Muslim state to exist ? Even the God- ordained USA would not have come into existence/ beaten tyrannical, debauched Britain, if France had not decided to assist her. Now answer me this . By your criteria, Muslims would be “good ” if they had “good ” states, right ? So are we not supposed to be so good, so godly, so enlightened ? Why then are our 21st century countries being over run by troglodytes from a bad, ungodly sink ? Why are we feeling so personally and culturally threatened by an ignorant bunch of “fascist scum ” ?? The very idea that our invincible superiority can be challenged by such, should be ludicrous, yet here we are, ranting and raving and threatening genocide, feeling impotent and frightened. So how do you dare expect less fear or more courage from people in countries where they have NO human rights legislation, NO elected representatives, NO CONSTITUTION to quote, NO free media or police to protect and serve ?

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Almost all you say is correct. My little but:
-The Kurds are more hempered by the Turks than by the Arabs.
-The leaders in the Muslim world are also carried by the culture. It is am unhealthy relationship between the powerful and the powerless. Bashar al Assad started as a reformer, but he had no chance against the outer circles. In fact when the protests started he explicitely warned of the Islamists and claimed that the West would not understand the culture. He was right. (I shall add that he is an anti-Semite and I’m no fan of his).
– The US does not keep the leaders in power. There is just as much as one can do. The US is not omnipotent and would not be able to address all tyrannies simulaneously.

Thank you for weighing in on that matter. It is also Pamela Geller’s view that we can expect Muslims to be nice people. We just don’t have to pad their backs all the time if they don’t try to kill us.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago

Thank you, yes. Assad is probably the best example of how much a leader has to adapt to stay on top / keep his head. My “we ” was all embracing, Europe, my own UK, North America, Australia, NZ. , who vaunt of our free societies, but pragmatically fall into line. We cannot regime change willy nilly–nor should we want to, but we have lost our own moral compasses. We can no longer even lead by example or support allies.

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Honestly, I fear that we have lost some moral common ground altogether. Seriously. BLM says ‘liberalism is white supremacy’. There is no agreement that the constitution should be upheld. The same is true for the UK and Europe. I’m afraid that conservatives are only a little bit better. I would not advice to ‘purge the Quran’ or something like this. Free speech is free speech. If it is fairly assigned to everybody the better ideas will prevail. The same is true for the right to carry guns. Once this was not only a hallmark of American democracy, but also of the British (when the privilege fo hunting was no longer given to the nobility). If you can’t assemble with weapons, you can’t assemble against the will of the powerful. If you can’t assemble, you can’t speak publicly. If you can’t speak publicly, you can’t call out even the worst government behaviour. It is all linked. We have completely given up on the Bill of Rights/human rights declaration.
The only agreement is that Hitler was bad. But it stands to question what it is that we all agree was bad about Hitler. For the left it seems to be about symbols, words and his moustage. They are less concerned about labor camps as can be found in North Korea today or with genocide as it happened in ISIS. ISIS could only be driven out of their strongholds after Obama left office. There is not even an agreement on ISIS despite the lip services. So what is it that we as a Western society still hold dear?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

R U seriously telling me that you’re imaginary good f’ing muslums haven’t managed to gain power in ANY of the 57 f’ing muslum states that infest the world today toots? Really? You better up the dose on your meds.
Dear dipstick, your f’ing Kurdish muslum scum in Iraq are ALREADY persecuting Christians and proposing islamic blasphemy laws.
Your attempted defense of muslums and islum? FAIL.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

I gave the Kurds as examples of OUR impotence to help others gain freedom or to follow our conscience. Of course they are mostly Muslim, not ” reformed Muslims ” Being head of state by inheritance, even chosen, is not the same as “being in power ” . Even Abdullah of Jordan—in power—is more in thrall to his subjects. To a lesser extent, our politicians start with great promises, look at Trump, then do little, but cling to the illusion of power. And while you assassinated 3 or 4,they still face fewer threats than a MENA ruler does on a daily basis. Rohani and an Ayatollah . Who really rules ?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Muslums couldn’t care less about freedom — because whenever they take power they eliminate it!

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

What was a good Jewish or Christian state before the Magna Carta?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

Your anachronistic argument won’t fly with me retard. We live in the 21st century retard. A 21st century in which ALL muslum states, every last f’ing one of them, enforce islamic blasphemy and heresy laws and persecute the unbeliever in islum. FU and your fellow muslum apologists cum sympathizers. I hope the Burmese Buddhist not only kill or expel every last muslum parasite from their country and execute muslum collaborators but banish muslum sympathizers cum apologists such as yourself. If you haven’t noticed halfwit the muslums are engaged in asymmetric warfare. GFY.

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

You sound like a liberal.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

You sound like a fool.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

“I’ve made up my mind ! Don’t confuse me with facts. ” Stephanie …can’t remember her surname, but so apt, it could be your motto.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

But these laws are only being selectively enforced for islum.

john700
john700
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

The only reason this guy Kurz moved to the right was because the FPO was high in the polls and an election is coming.

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

I’m afraid that he is only luke warm, but on the other hand I think the same about Trump now.
He is yet the best candidate and almost certain to win the election.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

It is a sad commentary on today’s politician that now the voters most look for the least of the worst.

Pantalones
Pantalones
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

*cucks

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

Finally, some hope…

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

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IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

I don’t trust statistics like these anymore. It could just be more muslums are lying about what their religion really is.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Hi Izlamis,
Yes, that is possible, and I have not seen the source data.
– what it does show is that Trump has changed things
– the proportion of immigrants who are Muslim may be declining
– or the proportion of Muslims who are motivated to lie may be increasing
– ether way, the new policies have changed immigration dynamics

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Agreed! Stats are in the hands of the bureaucrats and the politicians both *not* noted for their truth obsession. I have tried multiple times to gain official gender birth figures for muslims in my country to no avail. Why? dam near 80-90% are BOYS. Illegal gender abortion is rife.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

What’s the old saw? There’s lies, damn lies and statistics. I had a friend who had a master’s in mathematics, he always called statistics the “whore of mathematics.”

R. Arandas
R. Arandas
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Do those statistics pertain to a single nation?

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  R. Arandas

USA

scheradoD
scherado
6 years ago

We as Muslims of Bosnia hope that this policy is only a manifestation of the personal commitment of Minister Sebastian Kurz and that Austria as a country does not plot a course of enmity towards Muslims in the Balkans. For Austria or anyone else to join in an alliance with the Serbs and Croats by taking the view that Muslims are dangerous radicals will cause great harm to everyone in our region, and also in Europe.

Read that three times and let it sink in.

Crystal Waters
Crystal Waters
6 years ago
Reply to  scherado

Sounds like a threat to me.

JppD
Jpp
6 years ago
Reply to  scherado

islam is a threat

Lynn D
Lynn D
6 years ago
Reply to  scherado

Agree with you whole heartedly. That’s how I read it too

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  scherado

Good observation. How ironic that he makes veiled threats even as he indicts the portrayal of muslums as “dangerous radicals.”

James Stamulis
James Stamulis
6 years ago
Reply to  scherado

will cause great harm to everyone in our region? As opposed to what is happening now all across Europe? Move to a Muslim country! Read that three times and let it sink in!

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  James Stamulis

Many Slavic tribes converted to Islam under the Ottoman conquest, 15th. century. Bosnia is as much their country as South Africa is home to whites- more so. . Perhaps he should have said ” taking the view ALL Muslims are dangerous radicals ” to differentiate from the incomers. Shame to have more Bosnian Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina

disqus_1VhMJcA5Yv
disqus_1VhMJcA5Yv
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

apologist to absolute tyranny.. blood lusting debauchery.. terror and liars..

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago

?????

YoJoLo
YoJoLo
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Christians have something to fear. Muslims are not tolerant of their hosts.
The Sharia is not a coexistent concept. Islam means submission. They invaded.
Now they will breed toward domination. Insidiousness is a larger threat to nations than war.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  YoJoLo

She’s a warped atheist — or a lying muslum.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Make your mind up, Izzy. Cannot be both. But as your Christian love and understanding leads you to loathe any other than your own mind set, makes little difference, does it ? What says “I’m not discussing this with you, you don’t agree with me ” “You don’t think the way I do, so I’m going to block/ ban/ ignore you —or call you ugly names ” ? Not just snowflakes. Strange,never read about J.C. saying that. Luke 9 :49-50.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  YoJoLo

Certainly true of the Muslim fundamentalists. Jihad is a religious obligation. The only modern concession they will make is to use political and economic means of subjugation, before the sword, because our military defences are superior. Our deliberately blind politicians will not see it. My reply was to James Stamulis telling a Bosnian Muslim to go home. After 6 centuries Bosnia is his home. We have had Muslims in our population since the 16 th. century, without problems. They arose because of the sheer numbers, lack of forethought, planning, vetting, discipline, policing, and by the unrealistic expectations raised. We- UK have 271, 000 (2016 )registered cases of homeless families and individuals. Offspring are living with their parents into their thirties, for lack of housing and decent jobs. Our old lie dead behind their doors for months for lack of services ,our NHS is collapsing, our deficit rockets, streets, even taxis become predators’ playgrounds and the population is expected to exude sweetness and light or face fines or prison for complaining. Oh, and our values are valueless, our opinions are censored, our choices in food must be halal, we are being asked to consider ear defenders in the mornings–but cocks are not allowed to crow, nor Church bells ring in some areas, –and we must adapt our dress and keep dogs out of public parks or dispose of them. Sure I have missed a few things. In short, our “leaders ” and lawmakers have capitulated by default. 5.4% of our population now appear to take precedence over the majority. So yes, I understand insidious. But whose fault and who can remedy it ? Our, we.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

There is no defense of islum shrubbette, it’s all evil, totalitarian, fascist and antisemitic — no matter how desperately you and your fellow muslum scum try to cover that fact up.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1203706/The-Human-Shrub-strikes–wife-Human-Shrubette.html ?????? “Fellow Muslim “—I have even been known to defend / interact with fundamental Christians, another breed I would prefer to ignore.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Implicit fallacy of argumentation employed: false equivalence, because fundamentally Christianity was peaceful and tolerant — as evinced by the actions and deeds of the Jewish carpenter who practiced what he preached and who not only never had anyone killed for any reason whatsoever, but stopped violence being done in his name.
Nice try shrubette.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Deliberately false interpretation of “fundamental . ” I refer to those who ignore the spirit of Christianity–the founder’s intent, if you believe the N.T., but pursue a narrow, selectively literal dogma including creationism, intolerance for all other creeds or ideas, (while J.C. preached tolerance ) and hate instead of the love he promoted, yet still vaunt of being perfect Christians. They are as vociferous and as proud of their ignorance as any fundamental Muslim. And almost as prolific–online. Insufficient numbers and a sneaking feeling that perhaps their God might not quite approve, keeps them from being as physically dangerous.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

There is no non-fundamental islum shrubette. Unlike Christianity there is no reformed, protestant islum — it’s all the same Jew hating, fascist, totalitarian bullshit — as evidenced by every last f’ing muslum state on the face of this planet today. If there was any reformation in islum it’s already happened shrubette and the gates of itijihad have long been closed.
Your fantasy islum doesn’t exist — except in your exceedingly delusional mind.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

So why was so much violence perpetrated in his name, especially to the Jews ? Some kind of twisted psychological father hatred ?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Moving the goalposts eh? Fundamentally Christianity was peaceful, islum never was and isn’t.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Playing the numbers game, just like the socialist rags ? So having a pacifist founder exonerates Christians for all the killing in his name for the past 2,017 years ? Buddha was a pacifist, his priests are killing Muslims in Myanmar (but of course, Muslims are vermin, so it’s justified, right ? ) Is it really your contention that the genocide of 1.6 billion Muslims is perfectly permissible to Christians– in accord with gentle Jesus’ teachings, because he was a pacifist and Mohammed was so obviously not ?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Buddhists killing muslums is called resistance — because wherever the f’ing muslums have power over Buddhists they universally persecute them.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago

You really believe all that twaddle, or write it for effect ? Either way, it is unworthy of you.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

The only faith you seem to have is in good muslums. Why don’t you put your faith in good muslums to the test and move to ANY muslum state? Because the untested faith is worthless…

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Despite the preponderance of evidence to the contrary—I still believe in the essential goodness in most human animals. If I include some Muslims with some Christians, some Jews, some Buddhists, Hindus, Jain, atheists, etc. it is because I conversely believe no one group or race has earned a blanket vindication. https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/58712/the-good-god-and-the-evil-god “The stupidity of man “

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

You deserve the boot heel of islum on your neck.

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago
Reply to  scherado

Every time I see a Hollywood/BBC movie/TV series with the Serbs as villains, off it goes, instantly. The BBC is the PRIME scumbag here and have destroyed many TV shows by this act.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

Watching television these days is an exercise in futility and I watch less and less of it all the time. Ironically though, I find myself watching Pat Robertson’s CBC more and more — because at least he’s not a lying muslum apologist/sympathizer and tells the truth about Israel.

disqus_1VhMJcA5Yv
disqus_1VhMJcA5Yv
6 years ago
Reply to  scherado

you are the sly one you think; but your shroud of death threatening “warning” is duely noted with all its hidden ..you are resisted without question on the basis is your 1400 year old intent record in pursuit of death and bloodshed and in abeyance to the father of lies… chew on that..

scheradoD
scherado
6 years ago

Indeed! Well, wrote!! Destination? Unknown.

disqus_1VhMJcA5Yv
disqus_1VhMJcA5Yv
6 years ago
Reply to  scherado

with the rest of the sand snakes..

Jinky
Jinky
6 years ago

I like to hear Pamela laugh. Ok, so sue me.

Richard_Lionheart
Richard_Lionheart
6 years ago

It would be good if the Bosnian Muslims would realize their ancestors were forcibly converted to Islam and they need to return to their European roots.

Lancelot Blackeburne
Lancelot Blackeburne
6 years ago

Thanks Pamela. I’ll keep an eye out for future developments in Austria…

Also check out https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11104/austria-integration-law-burqa

Michael Copeland
Michael Copeland
6 years ago

“We as Muslims of Bosnia hope that …Austria … does not plot a course of enmity towards Muslims.”
Why not?
Austria has a duty of self-defence to its citizens.
Islam not only plots but INSTRUCTS a “course of enmity” to all non-muslim Austrians:
“…between us and you enmity and hatred forever” – Koran 60:4, part of Islamic law.
“Kill them wherever you find them” – K. 2:191, ditto

The Balkan Muslim press criticises Kurz for “spreading hatred towards Muslims”. Pot? Kettle? Black?
Islam INSTRUCTS the spreading of hatred towards all non-muslims (K.60:4 above).
“As a muslim I must have hatred towards everything which is non-Islam” – Anjem Choudary. ”

See “Islam Instructs Hatred: Muslims Speak” at Liberty GB:
https://libertygb.org.uk/news/islam-instructs-hatred-muslims-speak

This accusation does not work any more, Balkan Muslim press. You are hoist by your own petard.

James Stamulis
James Stamulis
6 years ago

Imagine if we had a MSM that kept asking the question why the hell has none of the Muslim countries taken any Islamic refugees instead of making us out to be racists because we don’t want these terrorists who are not a race to begin with? Nah they are too busy blaming conservatives for everything the left caused.

jim
jim
6 years ago

Who is protecting the US? The Muslim brotherhood is still deeply imbedded in the federal Gov and no one is doing anything about it. The guy we put in office puts muzzy apologists at the wheel. This is not going to end well.

RayG1
RayG1
6 years ago

So there are some effective conservatives in Europe. Does anyone remember what “Quisling” stands for? How about “Merkel”?

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  RayG1

Yes, there are but Kurz isn’t the one. Hungary and Poland have good conservative governments. There might be some more in Eastern Europe.

Menseismal
Menseismal
6 years ago
R. Arandas
R. Arandas
6 years ago

You know, Angela Merkel is actually centre-right, at least her party calls itself that, but many of her policies seem to be much more left-wing than conservative.

Benjamin Goldstein
Benjamin Goldstein
6 years ago
Reply to  R. Arandas

None of her positions are conservative. I don’t care how she calls herself.

R. Arandas
R. Arandas
6 years ago

I believe most of Europe has always oscillated between one form of extremism or another, they were once far-right, as in the First and Second World Wars, then they began gravitating towards radical leftism, such as during the decades of the Cold War.

And now, while not exactly Communist per se, many European governments are leaning towards the left in an unbalanced manner yet again, that “anything goes”, so to speak. They must learn to reach a balancing point.

pandainc3
pandainc3
6 years ago

Hope this guy has good bodyguards.

Mdog
Mdog
6 years ago

Bit by bit, the west is waking up. At this point, it will take a lot for the west to disinfect itself. It’s getting late. They better get on it.

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