Carlos Khalil Guzman: Islam’s Rejection of Homophobia and Antisemitism? (Part 3)

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Let’s remember Carlos Khalil Guzman’s claim that “Islam is against all types of oppression, literally all of it. It’s against racism, homophobia, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism, you name it.” We saw in a previous article how much bigger, and how much more deadly than the Atlantic Slave Trade was that of the Arabs in Africa. We also saw how deeply racist were the Muslim Arabs, offering by way of evidence a florilegium of quotes from the most respected of Arab historians and commentators.

Now we should examine Guzman’s claim that [Islam] is “against homophobia.” Really? Has he not paid attention to the practice of throwing homosexuals off of all buildings, as the bezonians of the Islamic State have so enjoyed doing, or hanging them from cranes, as is the punishment the Ayatollahs in Iran favor? Is he unaware that 2,000 “Palestinian” homosexuals choose to liven Israel Have these widely-publicized punishments escaped him? Is he aware of all the Muslim clerics who have ferociously denounced not just homosexuality, but homosexuals? Has he noticed that 9 of the 10 nations that consider homosexuality a crime punishable by death are entirely Muslim (and the 10th, Nigeria, likely has a Muslim majority). All of this makes a mockery of Guzman’s claim that “Islam is against homophobia.”

When, this past June, a one-room mosque opened in Berlin that permitted homosexuals and others in what is called the “LGBT community” to attend, and even officiate as imams, this became news all over the world, precisely because it was so unusual, for it went against the almost universal practice of Muslims, by allowing open homosexuals to attend. The homosexual Imam Zahedi, from the only mosque in France that allows homosexuals, came to attend the opening of the Berlin mosque. We learned, too, that another such mosque was being “planned” — i.e., does not yet exist — for the U.K. So in all of Europe, with 44 million Muslims(if we include European Russia) there will be perhaps three one-room mosques where homosexuals will be welcome. If we add in the number of such mosques believed to exist in the United States, Australia, and South Africa, the total comes to about ten mosques, for 1.5 billion Muslims. Or let’s double it: let’s say there are 20 such mosques, ten of which we know about. That’s still not very many for 1.5 billion worshippers. And like Seylan Ates, the lesbian imam of the Berlin mosque, who now receives round-the-clock protection because of the many credible death threats made against her, the imams of other mosques that permit homosexual worshippers have been similarly threatened, and presumably are receiving protection. All of which suggests that Islam is indeed homophobic, despite Guzman’s claim.

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And where do we find the source of this homophobia? Why, of the ten countries that punish homosexual acts with death, are nine Muslim and the tenth, Nigeria, part-Muslim? America’s first openly homosexual imam, one Daayiee Abdullah, likes to say that “nowhere in the Qur’an is homosexuality forbidden.” Apparently he has forgotten that the Qur’an contains numerous condemnations of homosexual activity, such as this: “And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people.’…And We rained upon them a rain [of stones]. Then see how was the end of the criminals.” (Qur’an 7:80-84). And in the Hadith Muhammad specifies a punishment for the sin of the people of Lot (i.e., homosexuality): “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, ‘Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Lot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.’” (Sunan Abd 4462).

Will Carlos Khalil Guzman recognize these quotes from both the Qur’an and Hadith as the unambiguous denunciations of homosexuality that they are? Or will he continue to maintain, against all the evidence, that Islam is not “homophobic”? He might have said something else, after all. He might have claimed that “historically, like Christianity, Islam was homophobic but, thankfully, that is changing, with all sorts of LGBT-friendly mosques opening practically each week. So progress is being made.” It would still be false, but not quite to the degree as denying altogether that Islam is “homophobic.’

Guzman also claims that Islam “condemns…antisemitism.” Perhaps he hasn’t been studying the Qur’an as carefully as he might on this subject..

He could start with the evidence Robert Spencer has amassed of antisemitism, both in the Qur’an, with several dozen verses, and in telling quotes from Muslim theologians, both medieval and modern, who endorse that Qur’an-and-Hadith-based antisemitism.

Here is what the Qur’an has to say about the Jews:

The Qur’an depicts the Jews as inveterately evil and bent on destroying the wellbeing of the Muslims. They are the strongest of all people in enmity toward the Muslims (5:82); as fabricating things and falsely ascribing them to Allah (2:79; 3:75, 3:181); claiming that Allah’s power is limited (5:64); loving to listen to lies (5:41); disobeying Allah and never observing his commands (5:13); disputing and quarreling (2:247); hiding the truth and misleading people (3:78); staging rebellion against the prophets and rejecting their guidance (2:55); being hypocritical (2:14, 2:44); giving preference to their own interests over the teachings of Muhammad (2:87); wishing evil for people and trying to mislead them (2:109); feeling pain when others are happy or fortunate (3:120); being arrogant about their being Allah’s beloved people (5:18); devouring people’s wealth by subterfuge (4:161); slandering the true religion and being cursed by Allah (4:46); killing the prophets (2:61); being merciless and heartless (2:74); never keeping their promises or fulfilling their words (2:100); being unrestrained in committing sins (5:79); being cowardly (59:13-14); being miserly (4:53); being transformed into apes and pigs for breaking the Sabbath (2:63-65; 5:59-60; 7:166); and more.

To these excerpts from the Qur’an, Spencer adds what the most respected Muslim scholars of the past have to say on the subject of the Jews:

The classic Qur’anic commentators do not mitigate the Qur’an’s words against Jews, but only add fuel to the fire. Ibn Kathir explained Qur’an 2:61 (“They were covered with humiliation and misery; they drew on themselves the wrath of Allah”) this way: “This Ayah [verse] indicates that the Children of Israel were plagued with humiliation, and that this will continue, meaning that it will never cease. They will continue to suffer humiliation at the hands of all who interact with them, along with the disgrace that they feel inwardly.” Another Middle Ages commentator of lingering influence, Abdallah ibn Umar al-Baidawi, explains the same verse this way: “The Jews are mostly humiliated and wretched either of their own accord, or out of coercion of the fear of having their jizya [punitive tax] doubled.”

Ibn Kathir notes Islamic traditions that predict that at the end of the world, “the Jews will support the Dajjal (False Messiah), and the Muslims, along with ‘Isa [Jesus], son of Mary, will kill the Jews.” The idea in Islam that the end times will be marked by Muslims killing Jews comes from the prophet Muhammad himself, who said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.’” This is, not unexpectedly, a favorite motif among contemporary jihadists.

And contemporary Islamic scholars continue to hammer on the anti-Jewish theme:

Not just contemporary jihadists, but modern-day mainstream Islamic authorities take these passages seriously. The former Grand Sheikh of Al-Azhar, Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi, who was the most respected cleric in the world among Sunni Muslims, called Jews “the enemies of Allah, descendants of apes and pigs.” The late Saudi sheikh Abd al-Rahman al-Sudayyis, imam of the principal mosque in the holiest city in Islam, Mecca, said in a sermon that Jews are “the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs.”

Another Saudi sheikh, Ba’d bin Abdallah al-Ajameh al-Ghamidi, made the connection explicit: “The current behavior of the brothers of apes and pigs, their treachery, violation of agreements, and defiling of holy places … is connected with the deeds of their forefathers during the early period of Islam–which proves the great similarity between all the Jews living today and the Jews who lived at the dawn of Islam.

With this kind of overwhelming evidence of how can Guzman with a straight face make his claims for a “tolerant, charitable, compassionate” Islam that condemns “racism, homophobia, antisemitism”? Can it possibly be that he’s overlooked all this? Or is he merely engaging in Taqiyya?

Guzman’s own favorite verse from the Quran is about how Islam guides everyone to connect with their humanity.

The line, taken from chapter 29, verse 2, reads, “Do the people think that they will be left alone on saying, We believe, and not be tried?”

“[The verse] is meaningful to me [Guzman] because it is a constant reminder that God never does anything to punish us, rather every experience good or bad is God’s way of keeping us and guiding us toward the right path, one of compassion, understanding, justice, knowledge and love,” Guzman told HuffPost. “Islam is a guide to help everyone connect with their humanity regardless of ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation or political view.”

Let’s take these claims seriatim.

1. “God never does anything to punish us” — the Qur’an is full of commands, that if we don’t fulfill, punishment of all kinds follow. Allah may choose to postpone some punishments for the after-life, but that is his choice. Throughout the Qur’an there is mention of Allah punishing his enemies not directly but through humans fulfilling his commands. For example, one of the Jihad verses reads “Fight them; Allah will punish them by your hands” (9:14)

2. Allah is “keeping us and guiding us toward the right path, one of compassion, understanding, justice, knowledge and love.” There is precious little “compassion” toward Unbelievers in either the Qur’an or Hadith. Believers are commanded not to love but to hate the Unbelievers, not to take them as friends, and to be guided by the principle of Al Wala Wal Bara — that is, “loving and disavowal” for the sake of Allah. One must love all that has to do with Allah, including those who share the deep, that is fellow Muslims and, at the same time, hate the Unbelievers for the sake of Allah. It would be fascinating to find out from Carlos Khalil Guzman what he thinks of this doctrine, As for this supposed right path of the Believer, “one of compassion, understanding, justice, knowledge, and love” — these are merely so much feel-good boilerplate, that have nothing do with the harsh reality of Islam, that uncompromisingly divides the world between Muslim and Infidel, and the terrestrial globe divided between Dar al-Islam, the lands where Islam dominates, and Dar al-Harb, the lands where non-Muslims still prevail. Between the two camps there must be a state of permanent war, until Islam everywhere dominates, and Muslims rule, everywhere.

Guzman’s hope is that the series will serve as an educational tool for people who have been fed false narratives about Islam. He hopes it also demonstrates how Muslims were an integral part of the United States’ history and culture ever since the first Muslims arrived in the Americas as African slaves.

“Fed false narratives?” Which false narratives are those? That Muslims are taught the duty, incumbent upon them, of waging jihad against the Infidels, until Islam, dominates, and Muslims, rule everywhere? Or that Muslims have a right to demand of non-Muslims that they pay a tax, the Jizyah, if they want to continue to practice their religion? Or that Muslims must not abandon Islam for another religion, on pain of death? Or that mockery of Muhammad can be punished by death? Or that there are several Qur’anic verses telling Muslims to strike terror in the hearts of the Infidels, and that then expand upon the various ways this can be done? Or that Muslims are told not to take Christians and Jews as friends “for they are friends only with each other”? Are those the “false narratives” that we are all being fed? We need Carlos Khalil Guzman to tell us.

“There’s always been a Muslim presence in the country. The values that our Constitution upholds are part of Islam, if people only took the time to learn about Islam,” Guzman said. “Islam is all about justice.”

Comment: This nunc-pro-tunc backdating of a Muslim presence in America is a staple of Islamic propaganda. The most comical example of this was when a State Department spokesman asserted — repeating a bizarre Muslim claim–that Muslims accompanied Columbus on his first voyage. This story arose, apparently, from the fact that Columbus took with him, as navigator and potential interpreter (Columbus thought he might run into Hebrew-speaking peoples) Luis de Torres, a converso (a Jew who converted to Christianity) who also knew some Arabic. It was assumed, in the re-telling by Muslims, that because of that, Torres must have been an Arab and a Muslim. As for this “Muslim presence that ‘has always been…in the country,” the fact that some slaves brought from Africa were Muslims means a lot less than Guzman seems to think. How many of the slaves were Muslims? Figures from 5% to 30% are bruited about, but no one provides convincing data for any of them; these figures seem plucked out of the ether.

One thing is clear: none of the slave-owners seemed aware of Muslims among their slaves, nor did the non-Muslim slaves leave testimony about fellow slaves who were Muslim. If they attracted no comment, perhaps that is because there were very few of them. There undoubtedly were some Muslims, but how many? And how long did Islam last in those early days? Without any mosques or madrasas, above all without any Qur’ans, and certainly no copies of the Hadith or Sira, Islam could not have been passed on to a second generation. Wherever it might have been found, it would quickly disappear. And in an environment where slaves were encouraged to convert to Christianity, that would make clinging to Islam even more unlikely.

As for Guzman’s claim that “the values that our Constitution upholds are part of Islam, if people only took the time to learn about Islam,” he has it exactly backwards. For anyone who “takes the time” to learn about Islam will quickly understand how Islam flatly contradicts the “values” of our Constitution. In the first place, we have a government which owes its legitimacy to how well it expresses the will of the people, through representative democracy. In Islam, the government owes its legitimacy to how well it expresses the will of Allah, as set down in the Qur’an. A despot may rule, provided he is a good Muslim. Most Muslim states are run by despots; only a handful can claim, and that only intermittently, to be democracies.

The most important part of our Constitution are the rights contained in the First Amendment. These include the right to free speech. In Islam, there is no free speech when it comes to Islam itself. Criticism or mockery of Muhammad can be, and in many Muslim countries is, punishable by death, just as they were in Muhammad’s time.. The mere charge against someone who, it is claimed, said something critical of Islam or of Muhammad, can lead not just to official punishment, but to a vigilante justice enforced by Muslims who are enraged at what they deem to be unacceptable blasphemy (often the slimmest rumor will set off Muslim mobs). Ordinarily, they then go unpunished.

As for freedom of religion, which the First Amendment guarantees, that too is absent in Islamic societies. It does not exist for Muslims: Apostasy from Islam can be punished by death. It does not exist for Non-Muslims, either. They may, as dhimmis, be allowed to practice their own faiths, but according to the Sharia they are to be subject to various onerous duties, the most important of which is the required payment of a capitation tax, or Jizyah, to the Muslim state. In fact, calling it a tax is a misnomer; it is in truth “protection money’” paid to Muslims, a kind of extortion to ensure that Muslims do not attack those who pay. Can it really be that Carlos Khalil Guzman is unaware of the limits on religious freedom, and on freedom of speech, in Muslim societies? He could have simply avoided the issue, not mentioned the Constitution all. But something made him think he could get away with asserting, without more, that Islam and the Constitution of the United States uphold the same values. They do not. Guzman ought to be asked to supply a list of the “same values” upheld by Islam and the Constitution of the United States. His resultant confusion should prove instructive. For our Constitution flatly contradicts, in both its general principles, and in its specific provisions concerning the rights of the individual, what Islam, in its Holy Law or Sharia, wishes to defend.

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pipo
pipo
6 years ago

Long time ago I had a friend from Iran, a shia, and he told me that most mullahs were gay. On another footnote, in Teheran, when I wanted to come over everything was there: whiskey, wine, beer and satellite.
Most Iranians are secular, I believe.

Steve
Steve
6 years ago
Reply to  pipo

Most muslamists are liars and enabled to be by their f***ed up “religion” from hell.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Steve

I used to know a Lebanese Christian he described the “best” muslums as hypocrites who who drank liquor in private but (perhaps insincerely) denounced Israel and supported the killing of Jews in public. He was fired from his job for being a kafir and left the islamic state of Lebanon behind like a bad habit (along w/his daughter).

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  pipo

Yeah the persecution of Jews, Zoroastrians, Christians and Baha’i is all just a figment of their imagination — as is the mass hanging of gays.
If most f’ing muslums are secular, then why aren’t there any secular states Mahmoud?

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago

Every Liar like Carlos Guzman should be countered with facts.

Here;s jihadi and his christianphobic murder .
These jihadi “refugees” are so vicious and hate filled that they don’t even spare Christian Aid worker who help settle them in http://bit.ly/2rr9tGh

And of course Obama and his Left/liberal Pro-Islam Goons prevented this from leaking out to media because it would have woken up at least some of the American voters and affected the pro-islam scumbags from getting elected.

Daizys Loyd
Daizys Loyd
6 years ago

Check out this famous vid: “Undercover mosque”, where thug imams verbatim instructs to “throw a homosexual over the mountain”, and more. They also depict a woman as “deficient”, etc. Within the first minute. So one does not even have to listen to the entire report. But for those who think is-scum-lam is good. I recommend you watch the entire thing. SPEAKING OF A CRASH COURSE, right out of the heart of a muslim hub, A Mosque in England!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btx0mm5KCMI

Steve
Steve
6 years ago
Reply to  Daizys Loyd

If these f888ed up muslamists weren’t so serious about killing they could do well in holy wood with all their drama.

Daizys Loyd
Daizys Loyd
6 years ago
Reply to  Steve

No, they are not needed there either. Western world should be Islam-Free Zone! As simple as that. The Chinese and the Russians are doing great without these criminal savages.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

The values that our Constitution upholds are part of Islam, if people only took the time to learn about Islam,” Guzman said. “Islam is all about justice.” guzman is an idiot, he does not have the brains to take a simple list of shari’a, then compare it to the Constitution. As he is stupid, here is a few points from shari’a. Would he kindly address them individually with direct reference to how they are compatible with anything pertains to Constitutional justice, not the islamic description of justice which uses its absurd self serving definition, one that reflects reality.
There is no muslim of any level of intelligence that is capable of doing this legitimately.

• A Muslim will not be subject to retaliation (prosecution) if he kills an apostate, since it is someone who deserves to die.

• Parents and grandparents will not be prosecuted for killing their offspring or offspring’s offspring. This law is significant to getting those who honor kill off the hook.

• A Muslim will not be executed for killing a kaffir (non-Muslim).

• It is obligatory for a Muslim to lie if the purpose is obligatory, such as fulfilling Allah’s commandments of jihad.

• Slander and exaggeration is allowed if the purpose is lawful. No guilt or shame should be associated with slander of the perceived enemy, and if it is for protecting Islam and for the benefit of Muslims.

• Sharia has no respect for sovereignty of other nations and non-Muslims, because of the doctrine of jihad, defined as “to war against non-Muslims to establish the religion.”

• It is a capital (enormity) crime for any Muslim who chooses to “Not perform jihad or flee from combat with (kaffir) unbelievers.”

• It is the duty of every Muslim head of state (Caliph) to wage jihadist wars against non-Muslim nations, especially neighboring ones. Muslim Caliphs who refuse jihad are in violation of Sharia and unfit to rule.

• A Caliph could hold office through seizure of power meaning through force.

• A Caliph is immune (Maasum), exempt, from charges of murder, adultery, robbery, theft, drinking, and in some cases of rape.

• A manmade government (legal system), such as democracy, is an abomination and must be eliminated.

• A percentage of Zakat (alms) must go towards jihad.

• It is obligatory to obey the commands of the Caliph even if he is unjust.

• A caliph must be Muslim, not a slave, and male.

• The Muslim public must remove the Caliph if he rejects Islam or refuses to rule by Sharia.

• A non-Muslim cannot inherit from a Muslim.

• No testimony in court is acceptable from people of low-level jobs, such as street sweepers or bathhouse attendants. Women in low-level jobs are not awarded custody of children in case of divorce.

• A non-Muslim cannot rule, even over a non-Muslim minority.

• Homosexuality is punishable by death.

• Women are forbidden from becoming president or judge.

• There is no age limit for marriage of girls. The marriage contract at any age after birth and consummation of marriage at age 8 or 9.

• A husband has the right to beat his wife and does not have to say why to her family or police.

• Rebelliousness on the part of the wife nullifies the husband’s obligation to support her, gives him permission to beat her and keep her from leaving the home.

• Divorce is only in the hands of the husband and is as easy as saying: “I divorce you,” and is effective even if the husband says he did not intend it.

• A wife has no right to divorce her husband, even if he is polygamous, with additional wives.

• A man is allowed to have sex with slave women and women captured in battle, and if the enslaved woman is married, her marriage is annulled.

• There is no community property between a husband and his wife/wives.

• A woman inherits half what a man inherits.

• Parents have the legal right to perform female genital mutilation on minor daughters.

• A man must pay the woman dowry to be given in exchange for his right to her sexual organs.

• A rapist may only be required to pay money (dowry) without marrying the rape victim.

• A man is allowed to have sex with slave women and women captured in battle, and if the enslaved woman is married her marriage is annulled.

• A woman’s testimony in court is half the value of a man.

• A woman loses custody of her children if she remarries.

• To prove rape a woman must have four male witnesses.

• A woman must cover every inch of her body, which is considered awrah (a sexual organ). Exposing face is allowed by most, but not all Sharia schools.

• A Muslim man will not be prosecuted if he kills his wife if caught in the act of adultery. However, the opposite is not true since husband “could be married to the woman he was caught with.” Thus loyalty is only expected from wife, and not the husband.

• Free speech is unprotected and harshly punished if it involves any criticism of Muhammad, Islam or Sharia itself. Both Muslim and non-Muslim critics of Muhammad will be executed even if they repent.

• The banking system must be Sharia-compliant.

• A government must rule by Sharia and a Muslim head of state.

Shirley Rosenhohn
Shirley Rosenhohn
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

My dear Mahou, there is nothing I could add to your brilliant giving of evidence concerning this demonic, evil cult..
Love and blessings,
Shirley

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

Thank you and bless you.

Steve
Steve
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

In other words its a paradise for fanatics enabled by a bipolar book of promises of peace and sanctioning of violence for whatever the hell feels tingling all over for male dominants and female subjugates. Hey wait, isn’t that sadism and masochism?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

In Soddy Barbaria there are blood money payments that a Soddy Barbarian citizen can pay out to the families of those he kills. The blood money payments have specific monetary values for women and unbelievers. Atheists and Jews are not included in the list.

famouswolf
famouswolf
6 years ago

All I need to know about muzzies is how many, where and how far.
I don’t really give a damn what lies they’re telling today, how they feel, or what their problems are.

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famouswolf
6 years ago

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6 years ago

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Ziggy46
Ziggy46
6 years ago

Islam is all about justice, Guzman must think all Americans or as a whole, Westerners are imbecilic. Undoubtedly, the gullibility of the Leftists is a prime indicator many Westerners of this mindless ilk will nod their heads donkey-like in agreement with Guzman. Leftist-Progressives of the guileless Gay community are easy picking for this outlandish fabrication touted by Guzman. They and their fellow progressives’ naiveté or out and out absurdness reveals they have the prescience of road-kill. Moreover, it guarantees, Leftists, whether Gay or straight, will be the first to feel the nocuous wrath by the honed sword of Islam. The latter is a malignant and racist Cult whose intent is the Genocide of all infidels; especially Gays, Leftist-Progressives and others of their amoral and political niche. Needless to mention, no infidel is safe from the murderous Cult, whether right or left of center politically.

Guzman is a Snake Oil Salesman… some prefer to live in a dimension of denial or placating this nefarious so-called religion of peace; undoubtedly, he has his true-believers. Not on this or other sites savvy to Islam’s and Guzman’s sales pitch.

ac287149
ac287149
6 years ago

You talk about Muslims and slave trade as though it was in the past. It’s happening right now. The Atlantic Slave trade was a method of profit for Islam- they raided villages and took slaves to sell at that market.

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