More jihad —> More sharia: Theresa May says the internet must now be “regulated” following London Bridge terror attack

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Terrorism works. In the wake of every jihad attack come sharia-backed policies, legislation, and submission. Freedom of speech is not the problem. Free exchange of ideas is not the problem. Islamic texts and teachings that exhort to jihad is the problem. The West means to silence the mechanism in which those religious teachings are shared? That is a primitive as jihad savagery.

As long as Quranic texts and teachings are seen as legitimate and holy, Muslims will share them, preach them, and act on them with or without the internet. What is May going to do, ban WhatsApp and Telegram, the dark web? She banned my colleagues and me, not jihad preachers or these Muslim terrorists who slaughtered Brits in the homeland. She equates those of us who oppose jihad (extremists) to the jihadis (extremists).

The internet is the last place for informed citizens to get news and information the sharia-compliant elite media won’t cover.

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Like every bad leftwing idea, this steaming pile of dung is packaged in a blue Tiffany box. Remember how they sold “hate crime” “legislation” using the brutal beating of a gay man, Matthew Shepard (when actually it was just a drug deal gone bad). Hate crime legislation was officially criminalizing thought. Thought crime.

Theresa May says the internet must now be regulated following the London Bridge terror attack. Of course, good folks will say, well, that makes sense, because they don’t know better. But let me assure you, these measures will be used to silence my colleagues and me. The left has already proved to be too fearful of Islam to take real action against jihadis. And if my colleagues and I were not blacklisted and invited to debate these ideas in the national conversation, good people would see this for exactly what it is.

Theresa May says the internet must now be regulated following London Bridge terror attack

The Prime Minister said terrorists had ‘safe spaces’ online

New international agreements should be introduced to regulate the internet in the light of the London Bridge terror attack, Theresa May has said.

The Prime Minister said introducing new rules for cyberspace would “deprive the extremists of their safe spaces online” and that technology firms were not currently doing enough.

The Prime Minister made the comments outside Downing Street on Sunday morning in the aftermath of the van and knife attack that saw seven people killed and dozens injured.

“We cannot allow this ideology the safe space it needs to breed – yet that is precisely what the internet, and the big companies that provide internet-based services provide,” Ms May said.

“We need to work with allies democratic governments to reach international agreements to regulate cyberspace to prevent the spread of extremist and terrorism planning.

The call was one plank in Ms May’s speech following the attack. The Prime Minister also said Britian was too tolerant of extremism and that “pluralistic” British values had to be established as superior.

The PM warned there was “a new trend in the threat we face” and that while the three recent terror attacks in the UK were not linked by “common networks”, they were “bound together by the single evil ideology of Islamic extremism”.

The Conservative manifesto pledges regulation of the internet, including forcing internet providers to participate in counter-extremism drives and making it more difficult to access pornography.

Ms May speech is thought to be the first time she has publicly called for international cooperation in bringing forward more red tape to cyberspace, however.

The intervention comes after the introduction of the Investigatory Powers Act 2016 – the so-called ‘Snooper’s Charter’ – which expands the powers of spying agencies and the Government over the internet.

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Fern
Fern
6 years ago

My radar immediately went off when she started talking about regulating the internet. Since this website would be considered “extremist” by her standards, she woukd want this site shutdown too.

cerberus
cerberus
6 years ago
Reply to  Fern

She will just prevent any ISP carrying this, and any other websites she doesn’t like, take it out. It will be invisible to the UK. This woman is pure evil and thick with it. An appeaser to her very core.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  cerberus

That’s an interesting angle. We’re not outlawing free speech, just the means of practicing it.
Condell’s strategy of moving to free speech venues like gab won’t work then, because free speech venues will be banned by the ISP’s at the behest of the muslum collaborators active in dying western democracies across the world. It’s ingenious and fits hand-in-glove w/the destruction of net neutrality laws in the USA.

go_chap
go_chap
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

The will of the people is stronger. There will be software that will be designed to counter it. More and more websites will pop up. She does not want the internet to carry stories about the carnage only the state approved version.

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Barbarawbratcher
6 years ago
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Pray Hard
Pray Hard
6 years ago

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pandainc
pandainc
6 years ago
Reply to  Pray Hard

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Jackie
Jackie
6 years ago
Reply to  Fern

It’s happening a lot lot lately. Fakebook froze Pam’s site after Pulse I think. You can be banned from from Twitter for asking about John Podesta’s nephew, and lots of sassy truth tellers on Youtube have been demonitized and their viewers randomly slashed. Oh there war on trust me.

go_chap
go_chap
6 years ago
Reply to  Fern

Exactly. People have to start using the word “revenge”. People want to avenge the lost lives and when that happens–it has to–it will mean utter chaos and failure of the policies of bringing those people in in such large numbers that they are able to establish self governed enclaves.

J Ian
J Ian
6 years ago

This woman, is literally beyond stupid.

Hans Pfall
Hans Pfall
6 years ago
Reply to  J Ian

…or has an agenda that wants this to continue. Which, it seems, she does.

cerberus
cerberus
6 years ago
Reply to  J Ian

She is quite simply completely out of her depth and every move she makes makes things worse. She is a total walking disaster area.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  J Ian

She’s not stupid, she’s corrupt, she’s a f’ing muslum collaborator.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

All British politians have been bought off by Middle Eastern oil money.

Tch tch tch
Tch tch tch
6 years ago

Multiple eyewitnesses said that community police officers fled from Borough Market in London after seeing two men with knives stabbing people as part of a terror attack Saturday.

Perhaps the most jarring part of the testimony was a report that, instead of running to the stabbing to stop it, the police turned around and ran the other way.

Bob Mac
Bob Mac
6 years ago
Reply to  Tch tch tch

Guess the standards for London bobbies have dropped soemwhat, e’ wot?

Hans Pfall
Hans Pfall
6 years ago
Reply to  Bob Mac

The French influence has finally spread to Britain.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Bob Mac

How many bobbies are police officers in the United Kaliphate?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Scratch that, how many muslums are police officers in the United Kaliphate?

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  Tch tch tch

90% of the UK police don’t have guns so it was a tactical retreat to re-group.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
6 years ago

We cannot allow this ideology the safe space it needs to breed – yet that is precisely what the internet, and the big companies that provide internet-based services provide.

No, no, Mrs. May, the Internet is not the breeding place. The breeding places are the bedrooms of the Moslem communities, as well as the cheap motels where unfortunate young British girls- some not yet in their teens- are taken for the weekend.

Maybe you could think about “regulating” those places?

Jackie
Jackie
6 years ago

Nawh – just arrest Tommy Robinson which happened recently for “hate speach” for actually calling the out filthy politicians in bed with Islam. The whole world is backwards lately.

balafama
balafama
6 years ago

do these politicians have any solution besides banning speech . this ideology is bred in the koran and mosques.they will use any excuse they can find to implement blasphemy laws. of course partial to islam.

Kook of the East
Kook of the East
6 years ago
Reply to  balafama

These politicians are not even considering banning islam or their hate.
They want to ban your speech.

cerberus
cerberus
6 years ago

They will ban your speech, just when we need free speech more than ever to confront this awful evil.

Kook of the East
Kook of the East
6 years ago
Reply to  cerberus

I think my friends across the pond are more immediately in need of our Second Amendment than our First Amendment.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  cerberus

The ban will be on White speech only not on Moslem speech.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago

Moslems are untouchable because their patron, Middle East oil money, has bought and paid for the UK politicians.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  balafama

The final solution: Self defense and self protection. Buy a gun and conceal carry at all times.

The second final solution: Sterilization and deportation of all Moslems.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

The existing laws against treason, sedition, hate, and attempted murder must be enforced. That specifically involves charges against every islamic source that promotes the qur’an as some cult superstitions that are to be followed. Those convicted of shari’a are to be deported if possible, imprisoned, if necessary, and closely observed for the rest of their lives. The internet is not to be censored, free speech must be protected, with those abusing its privileges dealt with accordingly. Blasphemy against islam in particular should be encouraged and rewarded.

AlgorithmicAnalystD
AlgorithmicAnalyst
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Right. Generally the problem is not enforcing existing laws, and passing new laws just makes things worse.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

The only reason to enact new laws is after all existing laws are enforced, and proven to be insufficient.

Dean
Dean
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

The existing laws are probably sufficient, but free speech regarding the truth about Islam and Mohammed, the god they actually worship, in any amount on the internet, social media and news and opinion publications would do far more to turn that thing around than anything the likes of May can comprehend or do. Following that there would be complete support and action to enforce the existing laws to end the problem.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Dean

True, May is a cheap opportunistic grubby politician trying to exploit another human tragedy for her own demented political purposes.

Dean
Dean
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

She couldn’t let another self-inflicted emergency be wasted.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

The muslums would be allah on-board w/your desire to outlaw hate — because anything critical of islum, muhamMUD or muslums is always hateful to them.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

That is how the problem got out of control, stupid politically correct liberal democrats tried to accommodate muslims at every opportunity. Too stupid to realize that once you give a muslim an inch they will keep demanding more.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

These laws are enforced but only against the White British. In the UK, the Pakistani-Moslem mafia is untouchable.

The only solution: Mass sterilization and deportation of all Moslems.

Hans Pfall
Hans Pfall
6 years ago

No, Theresa. The mosques must be closed and the invaders ejected from Britain. Not the “extremists”, the Moslems. Period. Anything less and that little fact that Mohammed is the current #1 name for boys in the U.K. will prove to be quite prophetic.

Stand up and live or get very comfortable with Sharia. And beheadings. And honor-killings. And female genital mutilation. And praying five times a day.

Now or never.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  Hans Pfall

Mass sterilization and deportation of all Moslems.

Kook of the East
Kook of the East
6 years ago

Further proof that these pols are not leaders.
Remember and remind them that you are their bosses and they are our employees.

Crystal Waters
Crystal Waters
6 years ago

What about the 14 centuries of Islamic attacks before the invention of the internet? Terrorists don’t need the internet to plot when they have mosques.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Waters

Attacking the internet is just May’s fig-leaf way of saying that she is doing “something” to stop Moslems from killing non-Moslems.

Patrick
Patrick
6 years ago

“Theresa May says the internet must now be regulated following the London Bridge terror attack. Of course, good folks will say, well, that makes sense, because they don’t know better. But let me assure you, these measures will be used to silence my colleagues and me. The left has already proved to be too fearful of Islam to take real action against jihadis. And if my colleagues and I were not blacklisted and invited to debate these ideas in the national conversation, good people would see this for exactly what it is.” Well Said!

Jeremy Steering
Jeremy Steering
6 years ago

There is a general election this coming Thursday, so, however concerned they might be, she and every other politician – and their press/media/PR machines – also have their minds on something else: votes. Understandably, the British public has had enough of the death and destruction being brought to their streets by Islamist maniacs, so they all have to be seen to be talking tough. When the election is over, it will be interesting to see if they are still talking tough, or if it’s a return to candelit vigils/teddy bears/hashtags and the politically correct avoidance of saying or doing anything to “offend” Britain’s huge Muslim community. Watch this space.

Jackie
Jackie
6 years ago

Any chance May could lose power over this? Not quite sure how it works?

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago

There are no Churchill’s running for office so the election is meaningless. Just more “surrender” politicians.

Deplorable/dx
Deplorable/dx
6 years ago

May says the internet must now be “regulated”
Regulate your mother ,who raised you without any commonsense

Deplorable/dx
Deplorable/dx
6 years ago

Sharia May….LOL

Deplorable/dx
Deplorable/dx
6 years ago

The best : Deploy extra UNARMED police against terrorists attacks ….Only in England this seems normal.

Annie
Annie
6 years ago
Reply to  Deplorable/dx

I keep reading comments on the internet that British police are unarmed –
yet they shot and killed the terrorists?

Deplorable/dx
Deplorable/dx
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

some of them armed some of the unarmed ,do your research

Annie
Annie
6 years ago
Reply to  Deplorable/dx

I don’t have to. You’ve done it for me.

Jeremy Steering
Jeremy Steering
6 years ago

The time for action was decades ago, when it started to become obvious that – unlike Hindus and Sikkhs – many Muslims were choosing to reject integration, making excessive demands, forming parallel societies and even introducing their own justice system in the form of Sharia courts. That lack of action – compounded by political correctness and policies of multiculturalism – is what is unacceptable and unforgiveable from all past governments.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago

The UK politicians have been bought off by Middle East oil money.

Dean
Dean
6 years ago

Never let an emergency go to waste, right May. Why should we expect that the emphasis on targeting critics of Islam or Muslims to change to targeting the real source of this bloodshed? Savage values and the worship of Mohammed as the Ideal man preached by Islam! There I go again, Islamaphobe.

Crystal Waters
Crystal Waters
6 years ago

Dems in the US will soon join her in calling for regulation of the internet. They know they will never win another election unless they control communication. ” Never let a disaster go to waste.’

Jackie
Jackie
6 years ago

Most normal people immediately realize what a GLOBALIST control move this is! Do NOT LET IT HAPPEN. My god how ghoulish to propose such a thing right now. Pound sand Ms. May!! Who’s page gets locked after Pulse -Pam’s! Who go arrested in Britian – Tommy Robinson. NOT the TERRORIST people reported 2 years ago! Piss off! STEP DOWN!

Menseisvolstrond
Menseisvolstrond
6 years ago

What rot, Mrs. May.

Felix Quigley
Felix Quigley
6 years ago

Robert you have it wrong in one key regard, Mrs May is not in any way left wing, she is a Tory, and also Corbyn and all Labourites are Imperial Britain Tories in their dark interior essence. Mrs May is much closer to Pinochet and her great idol Mrs Thatcher was very close to Thatcher. So Robert a key part of your analysis is wrong and is leading us into a great crisdis of leadership.

IF YOU REALLY WANT BRUTAL DICTATORSHIP IN BRITIAN THEN LISTEN TO MRS MAY LECTURE US ABOUT GOOGLE AND FACEBOOK…THE HIDDEN AGENDA OF THE BRIT ELITE IS CHILE TYPE DICTATORSHIP

The British move rapidly to dictatorship with Mrs May rabbiting about the problem of the internet in the same sense that she blocks Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer from travelling to speak in UK…this woman and all around her are very dangerous people and remember the British ALWAYS speak with forked tongue, with the British it is always what they say, that is on the surface, but there is a double meaning. Meanwhile the idiot Tommy Robinson calls for martial law in his latest video. Granted he was speaking in the sense of rounding up JIhadists but what makes him think that Mrs May or Corbyn who is also a Tory (all Labour are antisemite Tories in reality – that is they are Tories with a special Jew Hating twist) will stop there. The laws would remain and given an economic collapse or crisis would be used against all.

Britain is reaching the situation where it is struck by that old fatal disease, its leaders are suffering from the disease of paralysis. When then Trump called for a ban on Muslims from certain Sharia type state Britain was at the forefront in calling Trump all the names under the sun when he SENSIBLY called for a Muslim ban. But Britain itself is now paralysed. It IS paralysis. In steps Tommy Robinson to call for martial law. Oh just great Tommy. And after all you have suffered at the hands of the British police too. You idiot you Tommy!

These capitalist states like Britain always end up in a state of paralysis.
The same is happening in America. The key moment in the politics of America over the past years was when Trump, Bannon and his aides closed the door on General Michael Flynn, and essentially joined with the Fascist enemy in MSNBC against Flynn.

But I can say this morning with confidence that the key moment in British politics is the idiot Tommy Robinson yesterday in his video calling for martial law (that is Pinochet) in Britain. That is a crisis in leadership turning point.

The key to the future in Britain is to understand the massive significance of Mrs May banning of Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer and Michael Savage. This is massive. This means that the British Capitalist State (By this I mean the Tories, the Labourites, all those antisemitic currents who fill the air in Britain with hatred of Israel) will turn on a dime into a Pinochet type dictatorship.

Just listen to the way this woman Mrs May talks. You know when you listen to her that she is following a script and you know very well that this woman is giving out just 1% of her real agenda to the public.

They have in mind not clapping the Jihadists in prison but clapping the rest of us who demand free speech and an educational investigation into the history of Islam in prison. That is the real meaning of the banning of Geller, Spencer and of Savage. Really, really serious issues these three events which have been totally underestimated.

And do you want to end up eventually in prison? No so if not then fight for a new system to replace the capitalist system because all of these problems are coming from capitalism. They are not coming from “nowhere” they are coming from capitalism. Capitalism is an outdates system that can not bring us humanity forward and contains within it massive dangers.

At the end of the day Robert Spencer is a commie hater who defends capitalism and is thus implicated like Robinson in the coming Chile-type dictatorship in Britain…not tomorrow morning but do not be complacent either…we must be prepared for speed of events

santashandler
santashandler
6 years ago

Very interesting how, just hours after the latest attacks, Ms May already has a well-formulated plan. AND she knew these terrorists had ‘safe spaces’ online. Hmmm. How could she have possibly known that within the short time frame from the attacks, until when she gave her speech. If in fact, she and British intel knew they had ‘safe spaces’ WHY didn’t they act sooner. Surely, if they were planning their attacks in these so-called ‘safe spaces’ the authorities knew about it, according to May. So….why wasn’t there a massive police presence to greet the terrorists at their first stop. And why were the police RUNNING AWAY from the attack. This whole thing stinks. At the very least, May should have waited a few days to let the dust settle before declaring she wants to further curb the rights of ordinary British citizens. Like that’s all they were ever really concerned with anyhow. Sort of like after 9-11

Alleged Comment
Alleged Comment
6 years ago

It’ ain’t the UCKING INTERNET!!!! You stupid liberal morons!!!!

Roy Jennings
Roy Jennings
6 years ago

Yes the internet is now being regulated. The vast majority of blocked and deleted accounts are those that support democracy and politics that decry the rise of Islam and the obvious dangers therein.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago

Couple her insipid remarks with the raghead mayor of London tweeting that there is nothing to worry about and that the murder and mayhem is the fault of global warming and you know everything you need to know to accurately diagnose the problems with government in the UK.

go_chap
go_chap
6 years ago

Of course the internet must be regulated. Too many people are being educated about the true nature of Islam on the internett. Too much evidence against the migrant and unfettered Islamic immigration is available on the internet. Regulation of internet means no Pam Geller, Robert Spencer, Bridgette Gabriel, etc., while millions of pounds are spent on “de-radicalization” or seeking counsel for Muslims to tells us what Islam is because we are fools who cannot read about it for ourselves and come to our own conclusion.

NoTreading
NoTreading
6 years ago
Reply to  go_chap

Let’s not forget the internet pulls back the curtain on MSM propaganda.

A video released a day after the Islamic terror attacks in London
show a CNN crew staging a scene with Muslims holding signs saying “ISIS
Will Lose”.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/06/shock-video-cnn-creates-fakenews-london-following-terror-attacks-stages-anti-isis-muslim-protesters/

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago

The internet is run by White people so it is a soft and politically correct target.

May would never go after the Moslem menace because they fight back and May is a coward.

What May really needs to do is sterilize all Moslems and then deport them out of the UK. Britain for the White British not for the Pakistani-Moslem mafia that is currently running the country.

Ichabod Crain
Ichabod Crain
6 years ago

Internet censorship – the wet dream of politicians to restrict criticism of their corrupt policies. The lobbyist groups like the RIAA/MPAA have been spending millions to encourage governments everywhere to take control of the internet. Without free speech on the internet, we are done for. We will be left with nothing but government outlets and the propaganda outlets known as the MSM for information. It will be like Russia where the media is controlled by the government, only worse because they still have the internet there.

turkeychoker
turkeychoker
6 years ago

Her mask is off. She`s just another wannabe tyrant. Alot of folks will support her too. Just like they did, Hitler.

Wayne Ville ... a Deplorable
Wayne Ville ... a Deplorable
6 years ago

This is like blaming spoons for people being fat! Typical liberal morons will do ANYTHING to keep from placing blame on the correct problem. MUSLIMS are the problem.

Pray Hard
Pray Hard
6 years ago

Theresa May is worse than useless and should be removed from office.

Annie
Annie
6 years ago

It would start out under the guise of policing terrorists – but would quickly become
policing the people.

In May’s speech during her visit to President Trump in January, she prattled on
about terrorism, making sure to emphasize that terror in today’s world was not
just caused by Islamists. She would be very prone to policing everyone but
Muslim terrorists – especially since in the same speech she said Islam is a
religion of peace.

Every day somewhere in the world, Muslim terrorists are murdering and
injuring people. Theresa May is untrustworthy and part of fake news when
she does not admit that. How could she be trusted to police the internet?

Edward Cline
Edward Cline
6 years ago

There’s no such thing as “Islamic extremism” Mother May. There’s just Islam. Get that through your PC, cowardly head. You’re no ChurchIll!

theBuckWheat
theBuckWheat
6 years ago

This is the same mindset that blames guns for all the murders in Chicago. I have never seen anyone at a gun show blow themselves up. The Amish in the Midwest can watch all the jihad snuff videos they want but don’t seem to be interested in plowing their buggies into crowds of people. So, clearly progressives must double down. They cannot admit that their demands to improve society by importing a virulent religion now has caused the death and destruction that people like me warned about. But we are merely H8rs who must not be listened to .

In truth it is progressives who hate western society. As secular as they claim to be, their secular religion finds common cause with the Religion of Peace. It all proves that progressives are all about power over the rest of us, to control our lives and our thoughts. Once you wake up to that fact, you can stop being manipulated into allowing it to happen.

RayG1
RayG1
6 years ago

All of this Muslim terrorist activity is just a distraction. We are fully engrossed in these terrorist scandals while Nemesis/Nibiru is only four months away from its nearest approach to our Earth. Earthquakes, volcanic activity, sink holes, and highly destructive weather that is guaranteed to result in food shortages this winter, continues to increase while we focus on the “London Bridge” murders. When the 9.0 earthquakes start to hit us (soon) a great number of cities will become disaster areas. While that will be very unfortunate, keep in mind that that is where liberals and Muslims are concentrated. The world as we know it is going to change forever this fall, and one of the very few bright sides to this is the reduction of liberals, Muslims, and other social morons. They’re not preppers and mostly don’t own guns so they will not survive. Believe this or not, because this will happen anyway!

Michael Jacobs
Michael Jacobs
6 years ago

A disturbing trend. At least the U.S. has the First Amendment, which Britain does not. That hasn’t stopped mis-informed, non-tech-savvy legislators from trying to regulate the Internet for decades. Better idea is to force all the extremists out from under a rock so we can all see and evaluate their ideas in the cleansing light of day. Such a ruling would not affect sites like this one at all, which is already freely available to the public.

The problem with (terrorism + the internet) is not freedom of the press; it’s semi-public, privately-owned websites which carry a large volume of OTHER people’s social media content and which ALREADY regulate the Net via their own internal moderation standards which ALSO must be made public, and subject to more public scrutiny. I’m talking about YOU, Facebook. A secondary and much smaller problem is the ability of conspiratorial groups to meet in private and without detection on the dark web. That’s not a free-press issue either; it’s a personal-privacy and search-and-seizure issue, where existing law ALLOWS suspicious conversations to be monitored upon showing probable cause.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Jacobs

Is the muslum who funds islamic terrorism thru islamic charities extweme? What about the muslums advocating for prayer rooms and foot baths in public educational institutions and airports? What about the muslums advocating for apartheid dances or apartheid swimming pools, are they extwemist? What about the muslum judge who dismissed all charges against a fellow muslum for attacking an atheist who was mocking his prophet? Was the judge extweme? How about the muslum attacker?

Michael Jacobs
Michael Jacobs
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Interesting questions all, Mr. Tyranny, but going way beyond the scope of this article or of my comment. The point is simply that the Internet should not be treated differently from every other form of communication simply because tech-clueless legislators don’t understand it. We ALREADY have the legal means to tap and observe specific conversations that implicate terrorism, just as we did back when a “wiretap” meant splicing an actual telephone wire to a monitoring headset. We ALREADY have laws against incitement to violence, and do not need nor WANT to censor any other forms of “extremism,” since this would defeat the very purpose of free speech — as you note, who gets to decide which speech is “extreme” enough to be censored? So the answer to your question is, NONE of those things you mention should be censored, SOME of them should be monitored by law enforcement if the persons doing them are otherwise reasonably suspected of involvement in terrorism, and that’s the same rule that should apply in any other media.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Jacobs

So if the muslums implement Shari’a (or aspects thereof) democratically you’re fine w/that?

Michael Jacobs
Michael Jacobs
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

No, sir, I didn’t say that. I would not be happy with a Nazi government or a Maoist government or a theocratic Christian government (complete with Inquisition) either. But the free-speech rights guaranteed by the First Amendment apply to all in the U.S. That means Nazis get to march in Skokie, Illinois, and gay-bashing Westboro Baptists get to heckle people at military funerals, and Ms. Geller gets to protest Linda Sarsour being the commencement speaker at CUNY. Same rights for all.

The Islamists are free, in the U.S., to ADVOCATE for Shari’a law, just as extremist Christians are free to advocate for taking away the Constitutional right to get married (if the couple is gay) or the Constitutional right to have an abortion (based on their religious belief of when the “soul” implants). I do not advocate taking away THEIR free speech rights either. But that doesn’t mean I approve of their message, or that I would want such a rule to take effect as they are seeking.

Ditto with shari’a law. I’m against it, except as a VOLUNTARILY undertaken discipline limited to members of that faith, with various

conditions that also apply to any other religion. One, any member must be protected by the secular law of the State against reprisal or harm if they choose to LEAVE the religion at any time. That is a big issue where Western governments are not doing enough to protect apostate ex-Muslims. Two, and related to the first, religious law cannot be applied to anybody ELSE who is not a voluntary member of their congregation. Three, things which are forbidden by rational, secular laws CANNOT be gotten away with by claiming religious motivation for doing them — that includes things like human sacrifice (duh), multiple marriage, terrorism, FGM, honor killings, and so on. All verboten because they harm others.

It’s not that hard a concept to understand. Allow free SPEECH, but limit ACTION only to those things permitted by secular law.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Jacobs

Demographics is destiny, NJOI your islamic future, that is, if you’re not just a lying dirtbag muslum already.

DaughteroftheConfederacy
DaughteroftheConfederacy
6 years ago

Here’s an idea: Regulate Islam and then render it extinct. The world’s major problems are therefore solved.

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