United States launches missile strikes on Syria

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Obama gave Syria to Russia. Going military in Syria could very well escalate into a war against Russia. WWIII for what? Syria? The United States should have taken action in 2012. Our organization called on President Obama and the United Nations to issue emergency asylum to Christians and other religious minorities to save them from the impending genocide. Nothing was done. Millions were slaughtered. And Obama gave Syria to Russia.

This is Obama’s catastrophe.

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Do we know for sure it was Assad who used chemical weapons? Not sure why Assad regime would have used chemical weapons at this point – was it a set up to provoke such a response?

This is a clusterf*ck. We should not engage.

United States launches missile strikes on Syria

President Donald Trump calls on “all civilised nations” to “end the slaughter and bloodshed in Syria”.

By Sharon Marris, Sky News, April 6, 2017:

The US has attacked a Syrian air base with about 60 missiles in retaliation for this week’s chemical weapons attack in Idlib, US officials say.

The Tomahawk missiles were fired from two warships in the Mediterranean Sea, targeting the government-controlled airfield in Homs, officials added.

The missiles struck their targets, which also included Syrian aircraft and fuel stations, at 3.45am on Friday local time.

The military action comes days after a deadly poison gas attack that the US has blamed on Syrian President Bashar al Assad.

In an address to the nation, Mr Trump said he had ordered a “targeted military strike on an airfield in Syria from where the chemical attack was launched”.

He described the strike on Syria as being in the “vital national security interests of the US to prevent and deter the spread and use of chemical weapons”.

“Years of previous attempts at changing Assad’s behaviour have all failed and failed very dramatically.

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“As a result the refugee crisis continues to deepen and the region continues to destabilise, threatening the US and its allies.”

He added: “Tonight I call on all civilised nations in seeking to end the slaughter and bloodshed in Syria.”

At least 80 people were killed in the chemical attack attack in the town of Khan Sheikhoun, Idlib, earlier this week, which Mr Trump described as “one of the truly egregious crimes” that “shouldn’t have happened and it shouldn’t be allowed to happen”.

The Syrian government has denied being behind the Idlib attack and the Russian government had warned against apportioning blame until an investigation had been carried out.

Syrian state TV described the US missile attack on Friday morning as “American aggression”.

Earlier on Thursday, US officials confirmed that the Assad regime used sarin gas in that attack and US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said that Assad should no longer have a role in governing Syria.

The missile strikes are Mr Trump’s most dramatic military order since taking office in January.

Mr Trump’s predecessor Barack Obama had threatened to attack Assad’s forces for previous chemical weapons attacks but never went ahead.

Mr Trump’s intervention in Syria’s six-year-old civil war raises the risk of confrontation with Russia and Iran, Assad’s two main military allies.

Russia, for example, has backed Syria since September 2015, also using its veto power in the UN Security Council on several occasions to prevent sanctions against Damascus.

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Maranatha
Maranatha
6 years ago

“Damascus will be a ruinous heap”
Isiah 17:1

ArnoldLayne
ArnoldLayne
6 years ago
Reply to  Maranatha

3,000 year old prognostications, so compelling.

gfmucci
gfmucci
6 years ago

Absolutely the wrong action. Being the world’s cop, especially in the Muslim Middle East, is wrong. Trump claimed on TV tonight that our vital interests were threatened by the “alleged” (my word) Syrian gas attack. How is it a vital US interest that requires intervening in a Syrian/Muslim civil war? That baffles the mind.

The only possible scenario I can imagine to justify this is if Trump and Putin had an advance understanding to carry this out. A Russian spokesman recently told the world that Putin’s support of Assad is not unconditional. Did Trump blindly run with this statement, or did he and Putin have a meeting of the minds?

KJinWTexas
KJinWTexas
6 years ago
Reply to  gfmucci

The United States has responded to the crossing of a red line, the use of chemical weapons in Syria. There will be no more empty rhetoric but rather action. This strike went about attacking Assad’s chemical weapons delivery systems, aerial systems. This was a targeted strike operation that seeks to ensure such a heinous attack does not happen again. This is a critical action and clearly sends a message to Russia and Iran, both major supporters of Assad. We and the world cannot sit back and watch chemical weapons attacks against innocent civilians, especially children. And this isn’t about engaging in any sort of ground combat assault but seeking to degrade the capability and capacity of Assad to launch such attacks.

What we must find impressive is the immediate action, unlike the previous administration that focused on obfuscation, denial, and dismissal. As well, this attack comes after President Trump’s meeting with several key leaders in the Middle East from Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Egypt. My assessment is that if anyone is to take ground action, then let it be those nations, but we can assist by attacking specified centers of gravity.

As well, this sends a clear message to China’s President Xi Jinping and Kim Jung Un, interestingly enough as the former is here for meetings. There are certain people in the world who only comprehend strength, and our allies now can understand that we can be trusted. Now, there are several air bases in Syria under the control of Assad, this was only 50 missiles delivered at one of those bases. The message is clear: use sarin gas again and we will strike another air base.

The left can say what they will, but I think the whole conversation about Trump collusion with Vladimir Putin and the Russians has been put to rest. And what progressive socialist doesn’t agree with this action?

– Col Allen West

ArnoldLayne
ArnoldLayne
6 years ago
Reply to  KJinWTexas

Correct-a-mundo!

J Ian
J Ian
6 years ago
Reply to  KJinWTexas

I understan the Red Line – but, not all the facts were in yet – patience on this horrible chemical attack is the appropriate response –

J Ian
J Ian
6 years ago
Reply to  gfmucci

THIS IS THE MOST STUPID DECISION TRUMP HAS MADE THUS FAR – I am a Trump supporter, but we do not have all the facts on this chemical attack – very very very bad decision

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
6 years ago
Reply to  J Ian

You are never going to get “all the facts”. You do need sufficient facts to assign culpability before resorting to military force. I hope- and, given the way our intel agencies and military work, I presume Trump had that before acting.

BTW, while significant this is a rather low level response: more in the vein of sending a message along the lines of “Hey, guys, don’t ignore me”. At least this message will be heard, as opposed to the brush off accorded Obama’s hot air.

dennis
dennis
6 years ago

I agree that this is a message to those who need to take note of it, but I simply will not make any judgment on whether, or not, the missle attack will be effective in the first instance from, not a military point of view, but from a psychological point of view. I do not believe that Russia will take any action, since although soldiers at the airfield might have been injured or killed in this response by our free world country, they will not likely broadcast that happenstance. I just do not think that Russia or Iran want to escalate the situation. I certainly would be concerned for the ships that fired the missles, but I assume the military is doing everything possible to prepare for such an event. This whole world is going crazy. This action may finally have the impact of moving the forces involved with the fighting to now see the appropriateness of a resolution. Iran may now actually conclude that it still must fear this country, and maybe they will take a step back, although I would be concerned for our military and especially our naval vessels in the area . At the very least, this timing of this event, while the Chinese President is visiting with our President could not have been more wisely chosen. The affect of leaving China with the conclusion that we now have leadership that is prepared to use our military might to do right should be earthshaking to them and especially North Korea. It will leave China with the recognition that unless they bring the North Korean lunatic leader under control, they will be facing both an economic loss and might again become engaged in a military battle over the Korean peninsular and the South China Sea. Therefore, it might give Trump a much stronger hand to deal with those problems that this country faces in these very troubled times. I am hoping that these events will bring the world leaders to a conclusion that they have best get realistic and begin serious talk about what needs to be done to stop a possible conflagration.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  J Ian

Dale, TJ and Rebek, J. Nerve Gas Detection in a Fraction of a Second, Angew Chem Int Ed., Sept 2009.

livingengine
livingengine
6 years ago

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EB
EB
6 years ago

SO you remove Assad. What do you replace him with? A Sunni Council and have continuing warfare and the progression of Salafist extremes and antagonise Iran? A Shiite Council and have the Sunnis not stop their battle for ISIS control? A combined Shiite/Sunni/Kurdish Council that won’t survive a month? Whatever you do – the US and West will be detested forever more. Oh and you have totally p**sed off the Russians and the Iranians risking global escalation.

Ebayer
Ebayer
6 years ago
Reply to  EB

Replacing Assad will just lead to another savage. Possibly worse.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Ebayer

That is a chance that will have to be taken, the status quo in the levant will not do.

Pamela
Pamela
6 years ago
Reply to  EB

Enough, Chamberlain.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  EB

The US and the West is already detested across the muslum world now — except for the puppet states.

ArnoldLayne
ArnoldLayne
6 years ago

We had radar and infrared tracking of the planes leaving the airbase and flying to the destination where they dropped the ordnance. Guilty as charged.

You guys
You guys
6 years ago
Reply to  ArnoldLayne

Yeah they blew up a weapons factory that had chemical weapons in it. Tell me what chemical was it?

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  You guys

Sarin gas, a WWII favorite of the Nazis.

Obama IS-A-POS
Obama IS-A-POS
6 years ago
Reply to  ArnoldLayne

You could track ANY planes going on a certain course, then detonate a PLANTED bomb under their flight path. Where is the proof that anything was dropped by planes? Let’s see the forensic evidence on the ground. With all of the globalist lies and treachery, I would bet this was a planted and detonated bomb.

The logic to bomb a Syrian air base based on this could be used to bomb O’Hare airport after some jihadi or other globalist agent set off a bomb under a planes flightpath.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Obama IS-A-POS

How would you know in advance what a plane’s flight path is going to be? Or when it’s going to be flown?

Inmate of Diversityland
Inmate of Diversityland
6 years ago

One happy lunatic tonight….
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Jennifer McDavies
Jennifer McDavies
6 years ago

Don’t forget his boyfriend…..
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IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

Arrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhh matey, where be your booty!

MikeB
MikeB
6 years ago

Agreed. A huge mistake. I don’t believe Assad did it. If he goes down the remaining Christians will be screwed.

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago
Reply to  MikeB

Agree ! This will go down as another stupid attack like Bush going to war on Iraq based on “intelligence” report that saddam had WMD. After blowing up trillions it was found There were none !

Chemical weapons were used by “rebels” jihadis and those were supplied by UK based company as per instructions from then UK govt with support from saudi, USA.

It was to be used by “rebels” against civilian population to then blame Assad govt and use it as Pretext to go to war to takeout a Pro – christian regime and handover Syria to sunni jihadi who were slaughtering christians wherever they found them.

Russia disputed the fake accusation and when it was clear Obama was going to launch an attack like the saudi slaveboy he was aiding the jihadi including Al-qaeda, ISIS to unseat moderate shia Assad …. they decided enough was enough and decided to support pro-christian Assad regime.

And Now Dumb Trump did exactly what ISIS wants ! And Dumb Trump thinks he is fighting ISIS !

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
6 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

For all the rhetoric about going after ISIS/ISIL, it is apparent the real ISIL bad boys just sat back and watched the air show. They lost nothing. Ready to return into action, no matter what happens to Assad..

Pastor C
Pastor C
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Steiner

Thanks, Mark, for saying what I’ve been thinking all morning.

Trump may look strong and decisive to most, with this attack, but Syria is not the greatest threat to America.

Islamic terrorists, easily, are our greatest threat and I’m still waiting to see what he intends to do about it! All the moves he’s made, from what I’ve seen so far, are counterproductive. (If I need to offer proof, I’ll most gladly do so).

North Korea and Iran tie for second. But, with this action, he’s now upped the ante with Russia.

The days ahead for our nation will be ‘interesting’ at best. Remain prayerful.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
6 years ago
Reply to  Pastor C

Thanks for the incisive commentary, Pastor.

This action was similar to, but not on par with the existential situation faced by Israel. If Israel attacked the obvious threat posed by Iranian nuclear facilities, the action taken would be tactically offensive, but strategically defensive – since Israel has received numerous threats from Iran determined to eliminate the “little Satan” at some point. Israel has succeeded in this area a number of times – most recently with a Syrian nuclear facility under construction which was destroyed by the IAF.

God’s will is being done, nothing surprises Him, so it will be quite a show that will unfold in the wake of all this. Indeed, “pray without ceasing”.

But it will take some serious prayer and repentance from this nation to undo the shackles of II Chronicles 36:15-16.

Pastor C
Pastor C
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Steiner

It’s always refreshing to communicate with people who not only know the Word of God but can, contextually, correlate and extrapolate those biblical truths with current events.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
6 years ago
Reply to  Pastor C

Indeed it is. Such encounters within the Body of Christ are become harder to find as His imminent return approaches: Revelation 3:20.

Pastor C
Pastor C
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Steiner

Maranatha!

BeverlyD
Beverly
6 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

It would seem that Mr. Trump just showed China and Korea don’t mess with us. (Sarc.)

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago
Reply to  Beverly

Its foolishness to equate N.Korea with china.

shirley versace
shirley versace
6 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

getting suckered right into this Riyadh-Tel-Aviv cobweb. Nobody voted for this. This gas attack was obviously an orchestrated false flag. look at the speed with which the U.N. convened and with which everyone jumped in unison to the “correct conclusion”. This is transparent propaganda.

Москалi, геть з Криму!
Москалi, геть з Криму!
6 years ago

Take off your tinfoil hat.. Stop listening to Ron Paul and other Putler’s stooges.

shirley versace
shirley versace
6 years ago

not an argument – what’s your point? – other than that free speech makes you nervous/angry 🙂

Москалi, геть з Криму!
Москалi, геть з Криму!
6 years ago

You’re just throwing​ out some wild conspiracy theories without any proof. “Tel Aviv??” “Riyadh??” Mars? Jupiter?

shirley versace
shirley versace
6 years ago

sigh – you obviously don’t read much. There have been high level meetings and cooperation between Riyadh and Tel-Aviv… support for ISIS and other groups being the least of it.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/03/15/514495/US-Saudi-Trump-Salman-enduring-strategic-partnership

Москалi, геть з Криму!
Москалi, геть з Криму!
6 years ago

You must be a Russian, because you’re putting the dash in “Tel-Aviv”. Only the Russians do that. Also you’re quoting the mad, genocidal mullahs from the Iranian Press TV.

shirley versace
shirley versace
6 years ago

I’m quoting facts that are easily verifiable. And you are also wrong in your other supposition – I am not Russian.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

LOL, a Sunni Russian deprecating Shi’a propaganda — the full 360° of islamic insanity.

Москалi, геть з Криму!
Москалi, геть з Криму!
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Whatever i may be, I’m DEFINITELY not a Russian…

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

MuhamMUd was a child molesting, Jew hating, psychopath.

shirley versace
shirley versace
6 years ago

you are throwing out some wild denials without any proof. The Riyadh-Tel-Aviv axis is easily verified by anyone with an internet connection.

Steve
Steve
6 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

You sound like a child of the clairvoyant news network.

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago
Reply to  Steve

you seem like child of clueless News Network that Trump also tuned into before his foolish move to help ISIS.

Steve
Steve
6 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

I have a clue you’re running on empty.

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Latest news show Anti-Assad Jihadi groups including ISIS are cheering and have welcomed Trump attack on Syrian Airbase. They are pointing out Trump to take out other bases too !

… so they can continue the fight longer without being bombed from overhead while killing more christians and other minority groups that had lived in peace under Assad.

And get this … the medical doctor who took video of the attack “victims” and posted it online ……..is a muslim ! And it gets better …. he was active member of ISIS and arrested in UK but released as the only witnesses who could give evidence against him were beheaded by ISIS !

So he was released but dismissed as doctor from NHS.

And Trump was supposed to be fighting ISIS ?! LOL ! I know you have as much clue as Trump.

Pastor C
Pastor C
6 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

I, too, am still trying desperately to understand why he would do this. So I disagree with his actions as well.

However, you may want to read this if you, for whatever reason, still believe the false leftist/liberal narrative that Bush had no justification for invading Iraq (when almost the entire world believed he did)…Here’s the proof.

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2016/02/21/show-this-column-to-anyone-who-claims-bush-lied-about-wmds-in-iraq-n2122278

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago
Reply to  Pastor C

Don’t come up with Bull that “entire world” supported Iraq invasion ! Did you see any survey across the world that support such claim ?

Pastor C
Pastor C
6 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

Your refusal to simply accept the facts contained within the article is not my problem. It’s yours. I’ve provided the facts. That’s all I can do for you. So, I’m done. God bless.

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago
Reply to  Pastor C

There are no facts that Iraq had nuke weapons (WMD). It was assumed that Iraq may be developing one. Even that was assumption not based on facts.

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago
Reply to  Pastor C

Here’s excerpt from the article ” and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons” . So he did not have any Nuke weapons.

If trying to develop nuke weapons is good enough reason , why not attack Iran ? N.Korea ?

els
els
6 years ago
Reply to  Pastor C

I’ve read some analysis that shed light as about the reasons. Oil, and the money that comes with it. As a businessman, Trump falls easily for good transactions promising huge profits. The Asad’s troops and the Russians are advancing fast towards Deir-es Zor. If they take it, Syria is likely to be reinstated in its pre-war boundaries. But USA Plan B was to divide the country to at least 3 separate states – a Shia and a Sunni Republics plus Kurdistan. If Deir-es Zor falls in the hands of Asad and the Russians, the SA and Kuwait shall not have their oil pipe through the territory of Syria – which was one of the main reasons to launch this bloody war against Asad.
And, of course, the White helmets, as “prominent” actors of Hollywood, were more than ready to oblige…

Pastor C
Pastor C
6 years ago
Reply to  els

Thanks for the insight. I knew none of that. God bless.

J Ian
J Ian
6 years ago
Reply to  MikeB

Agreed. Huge mistake – I think this was ISIS fighters who fabricated this attack, and now, we have a problem – I expected more from Pres Trump – no quick decisions until all the facts are evaluated

shirley versace
shirley versace
6 years ago
Reply to  J Ian

where is Steve Bannon in all this?

movingwaters
movingwaters
6 years ago

Interesting timing that Steve Bannon, who would have been against this move, was let go from the National Security Council just before this went down. It seems that the neocons, including Jared Kushner, may be twisting the info they deliver to Trump. And they have definitely been out to remove the true Trump loyalists who got him elected. I don’t think Trump has turned bad on us. But I do think some people might have him over a barrel. Intense spiritual warfare going on for a long time. God’s will be done on earth as it is in heaven. And we all need to pray for Trump. He is not some dishonorable puppet like Obama. But he will make mistakes.

That's The Way It Is
That's The Way It Is
6 years ago
Reply to  movingwaters

And yet we also moved thousands of troops to Russia’s border before this started. This was planned. Mattis is eager to go to war…but has crazy friendly ROE for dealing with muslim terrorists. Did I mention the border patrol is now answering to an Obama appointee they despised? Trump is doing the opposite of what he promised. His kids are leftist idiots. His friends are leftist idiots. His advisors, except for Bannon, are leftist idiots.

movingwaters
movingwaters
6 years ago

I have to agree on most of what you say. Not familiar with Mattis ROE for dealing with Muslim terrorists. But thanks for the heads up. The crazy thing is Trump seems to be swayed from his own beliefs. I can understand a man as besieged as he is from all sides wanting to surround himself with family he can trust. But I think Jared is a huge mistake. Ivanka is probably a lovely person in her own sphere of business, but she is a brainwashed liberal. A father who loves his daughter to the point of listening too much to her advice is showing an Achilles’ heel. Trump is being isolated from good advice, and the people who voted him into office. I guess we all have to write into whitehouse.gov and let him know what we think. But there will be gatekeepers there, too.

shirley versace
shirley versace
6 years ago
Reply to  movingwaters

100% agree – excellent post my friend

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

shirley:
This White House piece explains the decision-making about the Syria attack. The whole National Security Council met and discussed the issues. Trump made the decision, and the NSC agreed with him. I’m not sure if Bannon attended. But his input was minimal.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/04/06/press-briefing-secretary-state-rex-tillerson-and-national-security

shirley versace
shirley versace
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

thanks for the link – the further Trump gets from Bannon, the more he sinks into the clutches and sophistry of the neo-cons and the shadow-state. What a mess. It seems to me that that know how to break him down. They know he has spent his adult life “succeeding”, revelling in the adoration of his staff, the admiration of his business associates and basking in a general reverberation of adulation.
That is why he had those rallies in Florida post Jan 20th. Because he needs this feedback.
However, in office he has been blocked at every. single. major. turn. And he will be tired of the frustration and anger that this has caused him, and the sleep that it has cost him.
So they’ve worn him down… then they offer him a slice of bacon… we’ll give you Gorsuch if you enter the fray and give us a missile strike …and he snapped.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

Shirley:
Yes, I share your worries. No politician should be left unsupervised.

However, Trump has a lot of tools in his toolkit. Building hotels in Manhattan and other big cities requires every conceivable type of ingenuity and perseverance. Example: The architect goes nuts in mid project. The construction workers go on strike before they even pick up a tool. The mafia demands their cut, in exchange for nothing. The zoning people demand bribes. The bank won’t fiance the project. And that ‘s just the first two weeks!

In some ways, the White House may seem easy to Trump. He brags about himself because of this Scottish rule. “Never to turn the back on the foe.” In years past, Trump was modest an respectful. But from the very beginning of the electoral process, the MSM and Dems attacked Trump with every conceivable thing they could think of. And all vertebrates, from cats, to dogs, to reptiles, to birds, follow this rule: When you are attacked, try to look bigger than you are.

So Trump tries to look big. But he doesn’t behave that way toward friends, family, and people he trusts.

shirley versace
shirley versace
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

interesting post – thank you… lets hope Bannon still has his ear

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  guest

guest:
I don’t think so
US observers witnessed the attack, and a Syrian SU-22 flew over, dropped the bomb, and people in the target zone started dying.

New technology enables drones to enter the bombed area and test for Sarin.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dale, TJ and Rebek, J. Nerve Gas Detection in a Fraction of a Second, Angew Chem Int Ed., Sept 2009.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  MikeB

Supposedly, Assad handed over his chemical weaponry to the Russians for disposal. Do you take either of their words that they actually did? One or the other is directly responsible, it is Assad’s country and either his leadership or acquiescence that caused the gas attack on Syrian citizens.

Steve
Steve
6 years ago

Most certainly. If he was innocent – forgetting about his track record for a moment – then it would be the obvious next move for him to show that it wasn’t him. My understanding from many articles is that we did have evidence. In any event, it appears he has been trying to play both sides of the same coin pretending isis was the only enemy. Trump did the right thing and there was no war about it – just a clear message.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Agreed. Have you noticed our ships do not get buzzed by Russian planes in the open sea anymore or that Iranian patrol boats have disappeared?

Steve
Steve
6 years ago

Yes I’ve noticed. Its a matter of standing up for ourselves. In the wild those animals that cannot at least try to fend off enemies are eaten.

Biff Henderson
Biff Henderson
6 years ago
Reply to  MikeB

This is Bush 2.0. President’s change but the American foreign policy of the deep state doesn’t skip a beat.

shirley versace
shirley versace
6 years ago
Reply to  MikeB

so…unless he pulls a rabbit out of a hat with this manoeuvre… it seems otherwise that turns out Trump to be just another shop-window goy

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  MikeB

Your ass. Trump sent a signal to every jackwad in need of a little education about decisive action by the US after eight years of accommodating every random jerk who saw fit to shove us around, thanks to Obhammud, the worst President EVER. As I have said, the two principal players in Syria are Assad and Putin. So which was it, Assad the perpetrator and Putin the incompetent, or Putin the aggressor and Assad the complicit one?

movingwaters
movingwaters
6 years ago

I don’t know the truth of this, but do not think Assad did it. There are more bad players in the ME than Assad and Putin. In truth, no one has done more to destabilize and kill in the ME than the USA. It’s not like the CIA and NATO are made up of Christian missionaries.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  movingwaters

moving
US observers witnessed the attack, and a Syrian SU-22 flew over, dropped the bomb, and people in the target zone started dying

movingwaters
movingwaters
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Just walked in. I appreciate the information, but it still makes no sense to me that Assad would do that. I doubt that Assad’s regime has the only control over SU-22’s. The people that run this world can make fake seem real. I don’t believe this is true and do not trust US observers. But I was not there, don’t know, and would love to be wrong. What I do know is that Syria was a relatively democratic prosperous, and Christian friendly place until the puppet masters over the USA upended that for their own greedy purposes. Not that I think Assad is a choirboy. But I am ashamed of what my country did to Syria. God help us.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  movingwaters

Agreed that Assad is not the only guilty party but he allowed the gas attacks to be executed on his soil. He claims Trump’s attack hampers his ability to fight terrorism in Syria. If that is the case, why didn’t he use that sarin gas on ISIS instead of Syrian citizens, among whom there were little children so young that they hadn’t even committed their first sin yet? Aren’t you ashamed you voted for Hillary? Blame it all on a YouTube video if you like.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  MikeB

Mike B
All US agencies are certain Assad did it. Sarin gas is hard to get in quantity. But Syria is known to have manufactured it. US observers witnessed the attack, and a Syrian SU-22 flew over, dropped the bomb, and people in the target zone started dying. Sarin has a very clear group of symptoms that are distinctive to nerve gas. It’s obvious to anyone who visits the casualty area. Turkey has verified in autopsies that is was Sarin.

This is also proof that Assad has more Sarin stockpiles.

Steve
Steve
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Someone posted that maybe a misplaced bomb may have blown up the stockpile that caused the killing but even if that were hypothetically the case assad should not even have the stockpile as nikki haley mentioned at the UN.
I don’t believe that is the case but it seems a lot of posters are upset about the action taken by us with comments including that its taken attention off isis, which is not the case as isis is still being attacked, and that christians are still going through genocide elsewhere and there were no US strikes helping them.

The reality is both assad and isis are muslamic enemies and both ultimately hate non-muslims. In this strike however the UN stood tall for its leadership at the UN especially regarding use of chemical weapons and haley took a more assertive approach than with the past administration. It sent a clear message to russia, china, north korea, iran, etc that the US is not going to be “tread on” and that’s a good thing.

Fern
Fern
6 years ago

Why is Fox News turning over full coverage to Shep? Like he knows anything. I can’t stand that fool.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
6 years ago
Reply to  Fern

Nothing on Gorsuch or the usual talking points.

Jack
Jack
6 years ago
Reply to  Fern

Fern you are correct! Shep doesn’t let Facts get in the way of him editorializing the slant he wants to present. He’s almost always off page from Fox and he gives me the creeps how in the face of his news he turns it.

Trump can't ban islam
Trump can't ban islam
6 years ago

mohammad is making trump to help the islamists. trump can’t ban islam in usa. The hand of mohammad is strong

ciffface
ciffface
6 years ago

Those prepared to follow the sunni beasts into the fire will also be consumed by the fire.
Globally people are showing their true colours and striking out at any who don’t agree.
Agitating and marches by gays, freaks and weirdos and the never ending stream of religious fakes.
It is not without reason for your judgement is almost complete and there is no reduction for repent, regret nor sorrow.
I have warned you before and now you have barely more than one season to understand your failures.
Armies and weapons are worthless when the weight of your own sins will be greater than your body can carry.
Your concept of God has been perverted by the greed of man and your books are lies from cover to cover.
Those who remain will be shown the truth yet few will remain to hear or see it.
No creature on earth values it’s life any less than you value your own.
Humanity was once part of nature but now it is no more than a disease that infects and destroys all it touches.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

Something will have to be done, this is as good a start as any. The blithering and dithering that has gone on for years in the middle east will have to stop, some actual progress towards civilizing the place must happen.

JacksonPearson
JacksonPearson
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

If ALL the combatants in Syria left, then the country would be stabilized. Love or Hate Assad, there’s other world despots that are worse than him.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  JacksonPearson

Name one, no two, since you claim there are so many.

Bob Katt
Bob Katt
6 years ago

Everything will be okie dokie. We have a leader with balls again.

Thomas Adams
Thomas Adams
6 years ago
Reply to  Bob Katt

Yes, and his brain is in there with them, some place. Trump is a first class dickhead; have we all forgotten the WMD’S in Iraq, etc.etc.etc?

Fromafar
Fromafar
6 years ago
Reply to  Thomas Adams

Thomas,
No one is going to war over the 3rd rate dictator Assad. He’s a non issue.
This was about a message…..To Putin, China, Iran and North Korea.
Zero’s policies told them all we’d let them push us to the brink of conflict. Trump used this opportunity to say STOP. I think it worked. Event over.
No war over this and Assad will be there as long as Russia wants him there.
This was all about “Peace Through Strength” – Ronald Reagan.

Steve
Steve
6 years ago

Both sides are enemy to us apparently in syria. Attack assad and isis cheers and vice versa. Talk about insanity. One thing for sure is neither are our allies. The left will accuse Trump no matter what decision he made as jumping the gun. But true patriots will respect his humanitarian concerns. As far as the united nations they’ll probably criticize him too. Kicking them out of new york would be a great move.

Fromafar
Fromafar
6 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Steve, you’re naive. I’m not attacking you, it’s just that your logic is spoken like a gentleman.
Does it matter in this failed state which bad guy is in charge?
None of them will be our friend or Israel’s. As such, maybe it’s best if the new “bad guys” don’t like Russia so much?

Humanitarian concerns? Dead is Dead. Does it matter how in a war zone people die? I know this may sound Machiavellian and in spirit I agree with you, but death is death.
This was about sending a strategic message with an opportunity given. See my post above yours.

The Globalists at the UN are feckless now and always. Nikki Haley yesterday telegraphed to the immoral body that we weren’t going to stand by and watch, yada, yada. yada.
Zero’s policies made this necessary.

Message sent, delivered and hopefully understood.
I think the Chinese, the Russians, the DPRK and Iran understood it better than many of the Breitbart readers (and for that matter, several at the bottom – beginning of this thread) who all want Trump’s head because he doesn’t see the world in the Unicorn Isolationist terms that they and Rand Paul do. (P.S. Domestically, I like Rand Paul – internationally, he’d be a disaster).

The Barbarians are out there, we need to keep them as far away from the gates as possible.

katzkiner
katzkiner
6 years ago
Reply to  Fromafar

The article said the attacking plane was tracked from the airbase and back.
The airbase has storage tanks for the sarin gas.
Trump did not hit the tanks because it was to dangerous to civilians in the area.
Putin was suppose to remove & dispose of all Syrian chemical weapons in 2013.
Everybody/everywhere thinks they can play the USA for the fool.
No, the fool is in Tahiti.
President Trump put the world on notice tonight.
“Stop acting the fool.”
Sabre rattlers around the world took notice.
“The USA has more combat power than the rest of the world combined.
Stop trying to scare us.
President Trump wants to get along with everybody but play it straight.”
China will probably slow building islands in the South China Sea and North Korea might launch a few less ICBMs.
Iran’s boats will keep their distance or stay in port.
Slapping a bully on his a** sobers up a lot of fools.

Fromafar
Fromafar
6 years ago
Reply to  katzkiner

I’m glad to see at least a few bloggers out there “get it”!

Cai
Cai
6 years ago
Reply to  Fromafar

You can’t conduct a ‘war’ from two different rule books, it will only end in disaster for the side that used the more ‘honourable’ rule book.

Fromafar
Fromafar
6 years ago
Reply to  Cai

Care to try again? I’m not at all sure what you’re trying to say.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  Fromafar

Fromafar:
I think Cai is referring to ‘rules’ like the Geneva and the Hague conventions.

Example: Geneva (1948) requires that both sides wear uniforms, or at least clear identifying markings. Otherwise, soldiers can’t be distinguished from civilians, so civilian causalities are inevitable.

Islamic terrorists seldom recognize this rule. And after a battle, they complain about all the civilian casualties. In the recent battle in Gaza v. Isreal, Hamas stripped all the military gear from their dead, and declared that the Israelis had ruthlessly gunned down civilians.

This is just one example of each side using different rule books.

Steve
Steve
6 years ago
Reply to  Fromafar

You are just misreading what I said and restating things. Humanitarian concerns and using force to warn the “bad guy” – barbarians – to not engage in their activity again is not wrong. Trump is and should be applauded for his quick action. I’m not sure why restaing what I said in different words makes it easier for you to understand. But that’s your choice.

Assad has done this before. Even if he tries to squirm out of it, the responsibility is upon him to show if he didn’t do it. After all these are people within his country. My understanding from several articles is that we did have evidence of his involvement – but perhaps north korea “snuck in” during the night. Diversion as you know is the typical muslamic PC when criticized for their transgressions. Mulling too long over decisive action will turn us into the EU and UK. And that is what we want to avoid in this country – at least most of us non-globalists.

Fromafar
Fromafar
6 years ago

A message needed to be sent.
Frankly, whether the news of Assad using the weapons or not is beside the point.
Zero allowed NK, China, Russia and Iran to believe we were no longer up to protecting our interests.
Trump smartly and strategically used this opportunity to essentially blow a whistle and say “STOP”.
Assad is a side show and always has been. He’s not going anywhere without Russia’s agreeing to it. Maybe Tillerson is working behind the scenes?

ISIS is a few months from being operationally non existent as a battlefield entity. Unfortunately, the lone wolf/group wolf factor will be with us for a long time.

Does it matter if Assad goes and some other bad guys take over? Not really. It would present a bigger problem for Russia. Good!

The Chinese, Russian, DPRK and Iran got the memo.
I doubt this really escalates. Trump reversed the Zero policies and put the bad guys of the world on notice.
Message sent, received and hopefully understood.

Just remember:
“You may be done with Islam, but Islam is not done with you!”

michaelofsydney
michaelofsydney
6 years ago

2017 will be the year everything changes. 100 years since Our Blessed Lady appeared at Fatima.

KVRGANIVS NOSTRATORVM
KVRGANIVS NOSTRATORVM
6 years ago

DEMONIOS DE OLHOS AZUIS GOLENS VOSSOS VCS SO TERÃO JEITO UM DIA QUANDO OS GOLENS FOREM DESTRUIDOS

Fromafar
Fromafar
6 years ago

Portuguese?
DEMONS OF BLUE EYES GOLENS VOSSOS VCS SO HAVE EVERY DAY WHEN THE GOLENS ARE DESTROYED.
Care to elucidate?

Glenn Partridge
Glenn Partridge
6 years ago

We helped get rid of Mubarak and handed Egypt to Morsi, thanks Obama. We helped get rid of Gadaffi handing it to Jihadis and opening the flood gates of Muslim invaders, thanks Hillary. Now Trumps going along with the ousting of Assad on the bullshit story Assad used chemical weapons when we can be pretty sure it was the rebels, that mixture of free Syrian army and various Islamist terrorist groups that is responsible and that’s if there was any gas attack at all and not just a made up, staged for the camera’s fake attack to get us to turn against Assad. Putin is the only one on our side that is making any sense.

Fromafar
Fromafar
6 years ago

If you believe Putin is on “our side”, you’re delusional.

Richard
Richard
6 years ago

The rebels don’t have Sarin. They have mustard gas and chlorine gas, the attack was carried out using Sarin.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago

A fatwa, as it were.

No Fear
No Fear
6 years ago

Is there any proof it was Assad’s chemicals?

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  No Fear

No fear
Tons of proof. All US agencies are certain. Sarin gas is hard to get in quantity. But Syria is known to have manufactured it. US observers witnessed the attack, and a Syrian SU-22 flew over, dropped the bomb, and people in the target zone started dying. Sarin has a very clear group of symptoms that are distinctive to nerve gas. It’s obvious to anyone who visits the casualty area. Turkey has verified in autopsies that is was Sarin.

This is also proof that Assad has more Sarin stockpiles.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Was it some sort of air burst weapon? Or contact-fused?

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Hi Izlamis:
I’m not sure. It does NOT blow up, because that would:
– alert civilians that an attack was underway
– disperse the chemical over too wide an area
– destroy some chemical though the explosion
Instead, the bomb
– disperses chemical close to ground level,
– on low ground,
– where people are concentrated.
– ideally, outside
– or quietly, at night, where the sarin can enter sleeping places
And sarin,
– is lethal at low concentrations
– is heavier than air
– forms an aerosol, with tiny droplets drifting in the air
– will cling to clothing or skin, or houses
– evaporates quickly

knightsstrength
knightsstrength
6 years ago

Good on Trump, it shows the world do not mess with USA. I guess the visiting Chinese changed his attitude on hearing the missile attack

Futile Minds
Futile Minds
6 years ago

Assad was not messing with America – America (Bush & Obama) messed in the ME that started all this mess in the first place.
Yes, good for Trump. I just hope he is correct that it was Assad, otherwise the mess will get worse.

knightsstrength
knightsstrength
6 years ago
Reply to  Futile Minds

You cannot trust any Muslim. Muslims belong to the Muslim Brotherhood, founded by Al Banna 1928, made a terrorist organisation by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Mohammed Amin al-Husseini

https://illinoisfamily.org/islam-sharia/knowing-four-arabic-words-may-save-our-civilization-from-islamic-takeover/

In short

Hudna
Taqiyya (Shia) or Muda’rat (Sunni): tactical deceit for the purposes of spreading Islam. [4][5]
Kitman: deceit by omission.[6]
Tawriya: deceit by ambiguity.[7]
Taysir: deceit through facilitation (not having to observe all the tenets of Sharia).[8]
Darura: deceit through necessity (to engage in something “Haram” or forbidden).[9]
Muruna: the temporary suspension of Sharia in order that Muslim immigrants appear “moderate.” So through the principle of Hijra (Muslim Immigration), the early Muslims are a “red herring” or a Trojan Horse. The Kafir or Kuffar community gets the false sense that the early immigrants are not a threat, at least until the Muslim community has gained strength.[10]

Москалi, геть з Криму!
Москалi, геть з Криму!
6 years ago

Major props to President Trump. Now Hezbollah, Iranians and Russians need to be hit, since they’re the ones doing the most damage in Syria.

Obama IS-A-POS
Obama IS-A-POS
6 years ago

Idiot globalist, Mohammedan vermin. Wipe Islam from the face of the earth! Send it’s followers to be with the murdering child rapist Mohammed in hell.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

So you’re a Sunni muslum ape eh?

Москалi, геть з Криму!
Москалi, геть з Криму!
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Let’s just say I’m not a piece of Shiite.

jjj
jjj
6 years ago

This is the third time trump has disappointed me. Seriously trump, what is going on? You never ‘retaliate’ when muslims are bombed. Never.

These muslims who died, for whom trump is fighting – These very muslims, if they had the opportunity, would murder trump and his family at the first opportunity. Does it seem sensible to fight for and avenge those who hated you and wanted you dead? We really are dysfunctional.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
6 years ago
Reply to  jjj

The US does have an abiding interest in ensuring that using chemical weapons against civilians will entail consequences. Frankly, I wish we would apply that standard to other methods of murdering civilians.

RFCVjkd4
RFCVjkd4
6 years ago

If the ‘civilians’ want to murder you, or want you dead – Are they still innocent ‘civilians’?

VLParker
VLParker
6 years ago

If Assad is removed who is going to take his place? ISIS? Assad is no threat to the US. Why don’t the fools in Washington start worrying about the Muslim Brotherhood infiltration of the US? The US is teeming with islamic enemies and the US government is oblivious. Close down the mosques, deport all muslims who are not US citizens, declare islam a seditious political ideology, clean the muslims out of the federal bureaucracies and then we can start worrying about what is going on in Syria.

Richard
Richard
6 years ago
Reply to  VLParker

The objective of this mission was not to remove Assad. The objective was to send him the message that using chemical weapons will bring consequences. With another day or two of maneuvering we could have taken out ALL of the Syrian airbases and virtually all of their aircraft. Instead this was a precision strike, designed to minimize casualties, on the airbase from which the chemical weapons attack originated.
I agree that the US has made the mistake of removing dictators who provided stability in their respective states. It’s a fools errand to try to install Jeffersonian democracy on barbaric medieval populations. That’s not what Trump is trying to do.

Jeremy Steering
Jeremy Steering
6 years ago

A dangerous, dangerous game. Russia is not the enemy. But the warring barbarians who are incapable of anything but violence and hatred, and of resolving their differences through peaceful means, most definitely are. The chaos in Iraq and Libya after removing Saddam and Gadaffi should have been a wake-up call. The reality is that these people have no interest in democracy, will not stop fighting along ethnic lines and the Sunni/Shia divide, so only a strong – yes, brutal – dictator can keep them under control.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

Jeremy:
You may be right about keeping Assad. But if Assad stays, he can’t be bombing people with nerve gas. I’s a horrible way to kill people, and the hundreds of injured will be disabled. Japanese studies of people who survived a sarin gas subway attack showed they had permanent brain damage.

If Assad stays, and tries bombing Israel, then Assad and many more Syrians will get nuked. Israel makes that very clear.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago

Agreed wholeheartedly. If you have ever read T. E. Lawrence’s account of the events on the Arab peninsula during WWI entitled “Revolt In The Desert”(1925) or saw the movie “Lawrence of Arabia”(’62), he details the many problems associated with organizing the Middle Easterners into an effective fighting force due to tribal divisions, feuds, and general hostility. When the Lawrence family was approached about making the movie, they demanded assurances that it would track very closely what Lawrence had written. If you read any of the accounts of the conflict there today, the tribal drama they describe is almost verbatim the accounts by Lawrence.

AR154U☑ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ DEPLORABLE 2020
AR154U☑ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ DEPLORABLE 2020
6 years ago

America and the World finally has a Leader in President Trump and what’s the Leftist response ?!!!
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Steve
Steve
6 years ago

Warren the “cow bell indian” for the destructionists has spoken with forked tongue. It really doesn’t matter though as we all know that whatever Trump does will be smeared as wrong to them. If he had not done anything he would have been a humanitarian coward smoking a crooked peace pipe instead of a humanitarian hero acting in defense of people – something the UN passed off to holy wood years ago.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
6 years ago

Mr Trump’s intervention in Syria’s six-year-old civil war raises the risk of confrontation with Russia and Iran, Assad’s two main military allies.

Confrontation with Russia, I would not want to see. As for Iran, better sooner than later. Do it, Donald.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

Situation Report: From DebkaFile. The Sarin gas bombing was probably a Syrian/Russian distraction to Trump’s plan to (1) wipe out ISIS in Raqqa, and (2) to drive Hezbollah and Iran out of Syria.

Russia and Syria were OK with (1), but not (2)

http://www.debka.com/article/26003/US-strikes-Syrian-military-airfield-
The US military launched 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles at a Syrian military airfield late on Thursday, April 6, in the first direct American assault on the government of President Bashar al-Assad since that country’s civil war began six years ago. The operation, which the Trump administration authorized in retaliation for a chemical attack killing scores of civilians this week, significantly expanded US military involvement in Syria.
The missiles were launched from two Navy destroyers — the USS Ross and USS Porter — in the eastern Mediterranean. They struck an airbase called Shayrat in Homs province, the site from which the planes that conducted the chemical attack in Idlib are believed to have originated. Syrian military aircraft, infrastructure and runways were hit

“Tonight, I call on all civilized nations to join us in seeking to end the slaughter and bloodshed in Syria and also to end terrorism of all kinds and all types,” president Donald Trump said to reporters from Mar-a-Lago, Florida, where he is hosting China President Xi Jinping and his wife…

“Assad choked out the lives of helpless men, women and children,” he said. He acted because of a “vital national security interest of the United States to prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons.”

debkafile: Washington has no doubt that the Syrian SU-22 bomber which Tuesday dropped a sarin gas bomb on Khan Sheikhoun in Idlib province, killing up to 100 people, was a joint Russian-Iranian-Syrian gambit to divert the Trump administration from a comprehensive plan for Syria. As US President and commander-in-chief he could not ignore this provocation.
Our sources report that the new US administration’s plans for Syria center on an offensive to evict the Islamic State from its Syrian capital, Raqqa, a mission for which US military preparations have been going forward for the past two weeks at five centers. To this operation Moscow, Tehran and Damascus were not averse. But that operation was also designed to rid Syria of Iranian and Hezbollah forces – to which they were.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said that despite previous agreements, Syria had not surrendered its chemical weapons stockpile, and accused Russia of “failing in its responsibility to deliver on its commitment” to supervise the surrender of those chemical weapons. “Either Russia has been complicit or simply incompetent in its ability to deliver,” Tillerson continued.

The question now is whether Vladimir Putin will decide to hit back at the US operation. Russia did not retaliate for the Israel air strike on March 17 over the northern Syrian T4 air base. If Putin chooses to sit on his hands once again, the same question may be addressed to Iran and Hezbollah.

Very possibly, Trump and Putin reached accord on the limits of the US punitive attack in Syrian in long hours of debate during the day between the US State and Defense Departments and the Russian Foreign and Defense Ministries, which were first reported by debkafile 24 hours ago. Pentagon sources report that Washington gave Moscow advance warning of the coming US attack on the Syrian Shayrat base where Russian air force units are also deployed.

Follow-up US military action may yet come after the US president asserted that for him, “many, many lines were crossed” by Assad’s chemical attack and his attitude toward Syria had changed..

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

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DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

The question now is whether Vladimir Putin will decide to hit back at the US operation. Russia did not retaliate for the Israel air strike on March 17 over the northern Syrian T4 air base. If Putin chooses to sit on his hands once again, the same question may be addressed to Iran and Hezbollah.

Very possibly, Trump and Putin reached accord on the limits of the US punitive attack in Syrian in long hours of debate during the day between the US State and Defense Departments and the Russian Foreign and Defense Ministries, which were first reported by debkafile 24 hours ago. Pentagon sources report that Washington gave Moscow advance warning of the coming US attack on the Syrian Shayrat base where Russian air force units are also deployed…

Patti York
Patti York
6 years ago

Something smells very very foul,,I pray to God he is not acting on bad intelligence.

Obama IS-A-POS
Obama IS-A-POS
6 years ago

“Do we know for sure it was Assad who used chemical weapons? Not sure why Assad regime would have used chemical weapons at this point – was it a set up to provoke such a response? This is a cluster. We should not engage.”

I AGREE 100%!! What the H is Trump doing?!! Is he even in charge? He looks like a puppet at this point. They may as well set up a mannequin to be the “figurehead” President since he isn’t giving the orders. Either that, or he lied to all of us during the long campaign. Or was it just another part of the “Long March”?

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  Obama IS-A-POS

All US agencies are certain that sarin gas was used, and it came from Syria. Sarin gas is hard to get in quantity. But Syria is known to have manufactured it. US observers witnessed the attack, and a Syrian SU-22 flew over, dropped the bomb, and people in the target zone started dying. Sarin has a very clear group of symptoms that are distinctive to nerve gas. It’s obvious to any medical people who visit the casualty area. Turkey has verified in autopsies that is was Sarin.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Facts about Sarin gas, from the US Center for Disease Control
https://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/sarin/basics/facts.asp

Robinske2
Robinske2
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

I don’t think anyone denys that Sarin gas was used, the question is whether the intelligence is accurate since it came from ISIS held territory. Unless someone can make a case otherwise, why couldn’t regular ordinance detonate a Sarin gas canister on the ground just as the Syrians and Russians claim happened.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  Robinske2

Robin:
We will know it was a Syrian bomb because
– A Syrian SU-22 bomber flew over the area and dropped a bomb
– US observers witnessed this
– parts of the bomb casing will be found, because it did not explode
– instead the bomb dispersed Sarin gas
– the bomb casing will be from an SU-22 aircraft
– traces of Sarin will be found in the bomb casing, and near the bomb site
– traces of Sarin will be found in the lungs of the victims
– there will be no evidence of the bomb being detonated from the ground
– there will be no evidence that a Syrian bomb hit a rebel Sarin gas stockpile
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dale, TJ and Rebek, J. Nerve Gas Detection in a Fraction of a Second, Angew Chem Int Ed., Sept 2009.

GovtGetOffMe!
GovtGetOffMe!
6 years ago

I can’t believe all the ‘Arm-Chair’ Generals in this discussion who think they know everything!. President Trump is not stupid. You can bet he has the latest intel and the advice of trusted military people and his advisors. They formulated a precision strike that showed the world not to dismiss the United States’ willingness to get involved when necessary. By advising the Russians of the impending attack, we have a. Shown Russia that we mean business and b. Shown Russia that we also value their relationship with the US enough that we ensure no harm to any of their personnel by warning them up front.
We also showed ISIS that we’re ready to up the ante any time and that we don’t sit on our ass twiddling our thumbs like Obama did.
We also demonstrated to Korea that we’re ready to play if necessary,not spew bullshit like the former administration.

President Trump made his point, and did it without going overboard or looking ineffective.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

Russia may not complain too much. Putin is not getting what he wants in Syria, and Russia is running out of money. Russia just cut their military budget by 25%.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Russia declares it doesn’t unconditionally back Assad
DEBKAfile April 6, 2017, 8:06 PM (IDT)

Following growing criticism of Syria in the West and US threats to intervene militarily, Russian President Vladimir Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Thursday in an interview that his country’s backing of Syrian President Bashar Assad is “not unconditional”. For more details on the situation with Washington and Moscow locked in intense negotiations regarding the possible attack, see DEBKAfile’s special report.

az
az
6 years ago

Spot on Pamela.
When it comes to be strong and aggressive, leftists call for talks, agreements, get screwed in the butt and pretend they made the deals of the century (Iran nuclear deal anyone?). The cowardice (moral and otherwise) is strong with them, so they give in to murders, rapists and warmongers, like most europe is doing now (and TURDeau’s Canada is following).
They rather sacrifice their own people, than make sacrifices for what matters most.
Like this they believe to have the moral ground to criticise the bushes, trumps and all the right wingers of the west for being happy trigger warmongers, when they are actually the real deal, the problem solvers.

Bush may be a moron, but he warned countless times Obama, of withdrawing troops from the middle east like there was no tomorrow. Therefore one can truly say that Obama made ISIS.

Incoming good for nothing leftards protests will be on the way.

throwmout
throwmout
6 years ago

Wasn’t Trump just saying the other day he was gonna leave it up to the Syrian people about who runs the country, now this BS?

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  throwmout

throw:
Yes, but this is a game changer. Until yesterday, the US thought Assad had destroyed all his Sarin gas stockpiles, and had sworn off using WMD.

Beatriz Vargas
Beatriz Vargas
6 years ago

Huge mistake! Who gives the US right to judge, condemn and punish without any concrete evidence that US interests are at risk?

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  Beatriz Vargas

Beatriz
Sarin gas is getting easier to detect. Drones can now be used to safely search an area for sarin gas attacks.
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Pohanka, M; Binder, J; et al. Sarin Assay Using Acetylcholinesterases and Electrochemical Sensor Strip, Defense Science Journal Vol 59(3): 300-304, May 2009.
Dale, TJ and Rebek, J. Nerve Gas Detection in a Fraction of a Second, Angew Chem Int Ed., Sept 2009.
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US interests are at risk because:
– Assad obviously still has Sarin gas stockpiles. He tricked Obama.
– If Assad bombed Israel, Syria would get nuked. Israel has made this clear.
– If Assad has sarin, then so does Iran, and Iran declares ‘death to America’ almost daily.

Pastor C
Pastor C
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Okay. Until I read your legitimate list of reasons why ‘US interests are at risk’ I could not figure why he’d make this decision to attack.

Thanks for the insight. I better understand, even though I still feel that Islamic terrorists (of all stripes and sorts) and, then, North Korea, Iran, Russia and China are much greater threats to the homeland than Syria.

Having said that, I can also see now how Iran (through her proxies Hezbollah, Hamas, etc.) could easily pose significant danger to our homeland, having obtained the same chemical weapons used in Syria.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  Pastor C

Pastor C:
Yes. Here is how Tillerson said it last night:
I think it’s also important to recognize, as I think everyone does, the
chaotic circumstances that exist on the ground in Syria, with the
presence of a battle underway to defeat ISIS, the presence of al Qaeda
elements inside of Syria, and a civil war that is underway. So,
clearly, one of the existential threats we see on the ground in Syria is
if there are weapons of this nature available in Syria, the ability to
secure those weapons and not have them fall into the hands of those who would bring those weapons to our shores to harm American citizens.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/04/06/press-briefing-secretary-state-rex-tillerson-and-national-security

Pastor C
Pastor C
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Thanks for additional insight. Because of your posts, I am more clearly seeing the wisdom involved in taking such a courageous and proactive step…This rationale changes my mind completely on the matter. He did what his oath requires. Anything less would have been a forfeiture of his obligation to protect the homeland..

MattTarango
MattTarango
6 years ago

“Clusterf*ck. We should not engage”. Thank you Pam, that’s what I was thinking.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago

Tillerson and McMaster cut to the Chase
Assad bombed civilians with Sarin at least three times in recent weeks. It was not rebels.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/04/06/press-briefing-secretary-state-rex-tillerson-and-national-security

Steve
Steve
6 years ago

If o’loser had had the guts to deal with assad this situation may never have happened. Furthermore, the russians dropped the ball on monitoring the chemical ability of syria. If Trump had not done anything after the killing you would be sure that the demoncrats were saying how Trump was indirectly colluding with the russians.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
6 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Steve
I agree. And last night, Tillerson (State) and McMaster (NS advisor) made it really clear that they think Russia dropped the ball.

Tillerson: I think it’s also clear that previous agreements that had been entered
into pursuant to U.N. Security Council Resolution 2118, as well as Annex
A agreements that the Syrian government themselves accepted back in
2013, whereby they would surrender their chemical weapons under the
supervision of the Russian government. Now, the U.S. and the Russian
government entered into agreements whereby Russia would locate these
weapons, they would secure the weapons, they would destroy the weapons,
and that they would act as the guarantor that these weapons would no
longer be present in Syria.

Clearly, Russia has failed in its responsibility to deliver on that
commitment from 2013.
So either Russia has been complicit, or Russia
has been simply incompetent in its ability to deliver on its end of that
agreement.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/04/06/press-briefing-secretary-state-rex-tillerson-and-national-security

Steve
Steve
6 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

I’m thinking its some of both with russia related to complicity and incompetence. I can see russia looking for opportunities to spread its wings even if its with a brutal regime like assad but i also believe that the russian military is having many problems including with discipline and leadership.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1995-01-15/news/1995015005_1_russian-army-strong-army-leaving-the-army

Dennis
Dennis
6 years ago

I simply will not make any judgment on whether, or not, the missle attack will be effective in the first instance from, not a military point of view, but from a psychological point of view. I do not believe that Russia will take any action, since although soldiers at the airfield might have been injured or killed in this response by our free world country, they will not likely broadcast that happenstance. I just do not think that Russia or Iran want to escalate the situation. I certainly would be concerned for the ships that fired the missles, but I assume the military is doing everything possible to prepare for such an event. This whole world is going crazy. This action may finally have the impact of moving the forces involved with the fighting to now see the appropriateness of a resolution. Iran may now actually conclude that it still must fear this country, and maybe they will take a step back, although I would be concerned for our military and especially our naval vessels in the area . At the very least, this timing of this event, while the Chinese President is visiting with our President could not have been more wisely chosen. The affect of leaving China with the conclusion that we now have leadership that is prepared to use our military might to do right should be earthshaking to them and especially North Korea. It will leave China with the recognition that unless they bring the North Korean lunatic leader under control, they will be facing both an economic loss and might again become engaged in a military battle over the Korean peninsular and the South China Sea. Therefore, it might give Trump a much stronger hand to deal with those problems that this country faces in these very troubled times. I am hoping that these events will bring the world leaders to a conclusion that they have best get realistic and begin serious talk about what needs to be done to stop a possible conflagration.

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