What Is It About Converts to Islam?

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What is it about converts to Islam? Why do so many of them get the idea that their new religion commands them to commit treason and mass murder?

On March 21, I published an article in PJ Media entitled “Meet Five Lethal American Converts to Islam.” But that was nearly a month ago; there has been plenty of time since then for converts to Islam in the United States and elsewhere to demonstrate anew that one of the gravest omissions on the part of counterterror analysts and law enforcement officials is their total lack of interest in the phenomenon of conversion to Islam and how it relates to “radicalization.”

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The day after that article appeared, a convert to Islam in London named Khalid Masood drove a car into a crowd on London’s Westminster Bridge, killing four people and injuring more than fifty. Then Masood got out of the car and stabbed a policeman to death. The Islamic State (ISUS) claimed responsibility for the attack, although British police discounted that, apparently because Masood wasn’t carrying an ISIS membership card.
British authorities ignored, of course, the fact that the Islamic State has called upon Muslims in the West to attack non-Muslim civilians, specifically mentioning vehicular jihad attacks: “If you are not able to find an IED or a bullet, then single out the disbelieving American, Frenchman, or any of their allies. Smash his head with a rock, or slaughter him with a knife, or run him over with your car, or throw him down from a high place, or choke him, or poison him.” One need not have contact with ISIS members to believe that the Islamic State is the caliphate and that its calls must be obeyed.

A few days later another soldier of the caliphate, like Masood a convert to Islam, appeared in court in Detroit. According to the Detroit News, “a Detroit man accused of plotting jihad on behalf of the Islamic State accepted a plea deal with federal prosecutors Thursday and could spend up to five years in prison. Sebastian Gregerson admitted he acquired a fragmentation grenade last summer from an undercover FBI employee, a crime because the grenade was an unregistered destructive device.” Gregerson calls himself Abdurrahman Bin Mikaayl.

The following week, yet another convert to Islam was in court in Germany. The Associated Press reported that four jihadis were given “lengthy prison sentences,” including a convert identified only as Marco G. The zealous Marco was found guilty “of attempted murder for placing an explosive device at the main train station in the western city of Bonn in December 2012.”

Several days the same scenario played out in Philadelphia. According to AFP, a “New Jersey teen pleaded guilty…to a plot allegedly inspired by the Islamic State group to kill Pope Francis during his 2015 visit to the United States. The US Justice Department said Santos Colon, 15 years old at the time, sought to recruit a sniper to shoot the pope as he celebrated mass in Philadelphia on September 27, 2015. Colon also allegedly planned to set off explosives.”

The week after that, it was Chicago. AP reported that “two suburban Chicago men who posed for photos holding a black Islamic State flag at a Lake Michigan beach park were arrested Wednesday on federal terrorism charges, and an undercover agent said one of the men suggested homosexuals should be thrown off the city’s tallest building.”

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The converts, Joseph D. Jones and Edward Schimenti, worked to aid the Islamic State. Schimenti boasted of the day when Sharia ruled in the U.S., and “We are putting you (homosexuals) on top of Sears Tower (now the Willis Tower) and we drop you.” AP noted that “Schimenti’s Google Plus profile shows a masked man holding a knife and standing alongside an IS flag. A caption reads in capital letters that if you can’t travel abroad to fight, ‘then slaughter the pagans next to you.’ Another posting reads: ‘Islamic State will control your country, matter of fact, Islam will dominate the world!!’”

As I noted in PJ Media last month, if large numbers of converts to Christianity got the idea that their new religion commanded them to kill in its name, there would be CNN studies and New York Times exposes in abundance; but the ongoing phenomenon of U.S. converts turning to jihad and betraying their own country has aroused no official curiosity at all. The ideological underpinnings of the global jihad remain a matter of indifference to all too many who have the responsibility of protecting Americans from that jihad. Unless and until that changes, the list of lethal converts to Islam is just going to keep growing. And so will the pile of dead bodies.

Robert Spencer is the director of Jihad Watch and author of the New York Times bestsellers The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) and The Truth About Muhammad. His latest book is The Complete Infidel’s Guide to Iran. Follow him on Twitter here. Like him on Facebook here.

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Midnattsol
Midnattsol
6 years ago

The only explanation I can think of is that Imams prey on psychologically vulnerable people, and use jihad to give them a sense of belonging and security, and kill them if they do not kill others. Not significantly different than streetgangs, other than suicide bombs and religious dogma.

The problem is that SJW movements are all aimed at destroying people psychologically which makes them ripe for recruitment. The “Feminists” in particular are led by Sharia activists such as Linda Sarsour.

tony curti
tony curti
6 years ago
Reply to  Midnattsol

when you say “psychologically vulnerable” it almost makes them sound as if they are poor confused souls grasping for the light and the way. I think they are the closet psychopaths who have been kept at bay by traditional Judeo Christian morality. They see islam as the way for them to indulge their preexisting disposition; if that ‘s what you meant as “vulnerable” then we are in agreement.

Tatonka
Tatonka
6 years ago

Islam attracts the worst of humanity, the psychopaths the insane and the misogynists

Logic PrObe
Logic PrObe
6 years ago
Reply to  Tatonka

True believers!

spfg
spfg
6 years ago
Reply to  Logic PrObe

True believers!
of hate

harbidoll
harbidoll
6 years ago
Reply to  Tatonka

suiciders!

Tatonka
Tatonka
6 years ago
Reply to  harbidoll

That falls under the category ” insane”

Michael Garfinkel
Michael Garfinkel
6 years ago
Reply to  Tatonka

…and provides them with all kinds of excuses/justifications to take their revenge on the world.

BeverlyD
Beverly
6 years ago
Reply to  Tatonka

Maybe they have a death wish.

Steve
Steve
6 years ago
Reply to  Beverly

Muslamics actually do have a death wish – for themselves and for others. In that they feel devout and superior to westerners and as such will never assimilate with us.

‘’And give glad tidings to the patient. Who, when afflicted with calamity, say, ‘Truly, to Allah we belong and, truly, to Him we shall return.’” (Qur’an, 2:155-156)

“Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” Quran (2:216) –

Escobar Cheung
Escobar Cheung
6 years ago
Reply to  Tatonka

But if you don’t agree with the pro-islamic you’re a misogynist. At least that’s what liberals spat when that happens.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

The lame stream media are afraid of islam and every muslim that even looks at them. Then there is the issue of bing bought and paid for by those who think they can manipulate islam to their ends. They will be the first to be disposed of.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

I doubt they’ll be the 1st to be disposed of, they’ll be the 1st to convert to pislum — in droves.

Shuali
Shuali
6 years ago

The battle with Islam has not yet begun in earnest. The Jihadists set the tactical agenda and they are quite willing to die for their beliefs while we are mostly cowards hiding behind political correctness and ‘open mindedness’. Be clear on one thing…there is no negotiating with Islam. Our survival depends on our understanding that pushing back the Jihadists will involve lots of bloodshed. It is their choice and their methodology of ruling our minds by terror have not changed in 1400 years.

tony curti
tony curti
6 years ago
Reply to  Shuali

glad to see I am not the only one who thinks like that.

Iftikhar Ahmad
Iftikhar Ahmad
6 years ago
Reply to  Shuali

“Islam and the West” or “Islam in the West”?

Islam is, of course, a “Western” religion, sharing deep roots with Judaism and Christianity

Muslims are also a strong presence in “the West”

Islam is the second-largest religion in Canada, Britain, and France, and may well be the second-largest religion in the United States

“Islam in the West” recognizes the entwined heritage of Islam and the West

The West as we know it would not be what it is without the contribution of Muslims and Jews (and others as well)

Are the ‘Western’ (cf. also ‘Christian’) and ‘Middle Eastern/Islamic’ worlds destined to……be in perpetual conflict with one another?…convert the ‘other’ to their way of viewing and living in the world (politically, culturally, religiously, economically, etc.)?…co-exist peacefully and even cooperatively with one another in the same world while allowing one another to retain their own unique worldviews and life ways?

According to the Holy Quran, all children are born Muslims, it is their parents who make them Jew, Christian or others. This is one of the many reasons why now western peoples are reverting to Islam on their own free will. Through out the history, Muslims never forced non-Muslims to accept Islam. This is the main reason why Muslims lost Spain and India.

The beauty of Islam is that it is a religion which appeals to common sense. There is no blind belief or dogmatism in Islam. The fundamentals of Islam are simple, straightforward and easy to understand.

If Islam is so bad, then why is it the WORLD’S FASTEST GROWING RELIGION! It is also one of the youngest religions. However no matter how hard everyone tries to give Islam a bad name, it will be twice as more populated. So let’s get straight to the point yeah?, Basically Islam is the most hated religion I don’t know why hmm maybe because it is also the most fastest growing religion and 2nd largest but no one will be able to stop this religion from growing.

Islam is the fastest growing faith in Britain. Hundreds and thousands of Brits are reverting to Islam. By the middle of this century, over half of Brits would be Muslims.

“I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of
its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to
possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which
can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him – the wonderful man
and in my opinion for from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the
saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the
dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems
in a way that would bring it the much
needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad
that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to
be acceptable to the Europe of today.” [G.B. Shaw, THE GENUINE ISLAM,
Vol. No. 81936.

Today, many non-Muslims regard Islam as a religion that promotes violence, terrorism and war. Unfortunately, they rely in their view of Islam on the general media, which is not always accurate in reporting the news. Many media outlets, such as TV, radio, newspapers and magazines, are influenced by their investors or owners who have certain agendas and who want to promote certain values and points of view. Other media outlets are simply after the “big story”, in order to make more money and more profits. Others are simply “followers”, who only gather news from other sources, re-package it and try to sell it again purely as a business.

In all these cases, the news reporting is not accurate, but is driven by ulterior motives or simply by profits. Only very few media organizations are committed to providing accurate and true information, regardless of financial gain. Therefore, people today should be very careful in what they take from the media.

Before blindly accepting what the TV, radio or newspaper is reporting, one should think critically about what is being reported. Is this being reported accurately, or is it being exaggerated or even completely fabricated? Who are these people reporting the news, and do they have vested interests to report the story in a certain way, or are they completely objective and fair? Critical thinking is very important in all aspects of life, especially when it comes to accepting the media reports about important and controversial issues.

Islam is in fact a religion that promotes peace and understanding among people of all faiths, and it strongly prohibits all forms of violence and aggression against all people regardless of their faith or race.

Native Brits must learn to respect and tolerate those who are different. The needs and demands of the Muslim community are different from those of natives. Muslims are in Britain not to give up their cultural heritage. They must integrate in their new home country, learn new languages and apply for political representation — without forgetting their cultural heritage. It is important to learn Standard English, but their languages should not be neglected. They need Masajid and grave yards. Muslim children not only need halal meat or Eid Holidays but they need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their development period also. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. This is nothing to do with a Islamic Madrassa in Pakistan. The needs and demands of British Muslims are different from Muslims living in Pakistan.

A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit. The whole world belongs to Muslims. He/she must learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time, he/she must learn and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural heritage and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. For a Muslim English is an economic language and Arabic is a religious while Urdu and other community languages are their social and emotional languages.
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

spfg
spfg
6 years ago
Reply to  Iftikhar Ahmad

Hahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha…………….

tony curti
tony curti
6 years ago
Reply to  Iftikhar Ahmad

ROFFLMFAO!!!! Take up Comedy!

sarah
sarah
6 years ago
Reply to  Shuali

Ole Iftikhar is a character. An utter hoot. Dude, let’s look at your ‘facts’.
Islam being the 2nd largest religion in Canada? Well, it makes up 3.2% of the Canadian population. Second largest maybe, but compared to 67.3% Christians and heck, 23.9% who are not religious at all – excuse me if I don’t feel like Islam has a big presence in Canada.

The West wouldn’t be where it is without Islam and the Jews? Well, I agree on the front of Jewish innovation. But strongly disagree on the Islamic front. For 1400 year, the most beneficial thing Muslims have done that has advanced civilization as a whole, is copy old works that admittedly, would have otherwise been lost. The invention of 0 as a number – was stolen by Muslims from the Indians. Now, given there have been 4 Muslim contributions to the Nobel Peace Prize in comparison to 129 by the Jews – I’d say Islam has been trumped on that front too. Islam does not innovate. It does not create. If it wasn’t for advancements of the rest of the civilized world – the scientific, educational, medicinal, engineering etc – then the Islamic world would still be without operable power grids. Let alone anything else. Luckily, the entire rest of the planet (all 77% of us) shared that with your lot.

The sole reason why Islam is growing is because of out of control birth rates. Muslim’s breeding like ignorant wildfire and then insisting that any baby born to a Muslim parent is therefore a Muslim for life.

And you say that Islam is beautiful because it appeals to common sense? What part, exactly? The part where the sun apparently sets at night in a muddy pool? Or how shooting stars are what demons and angels pelt at each other high above us? Or that the earth is a flat disc and the sun revolves around it? Yeah, that’s sensible. That’s some fine common sense thinking there.

You say that its the media’s fault for painting Islam in a bad light. Mate – Islam paints ITSELF in a bad light. You only have to read the Koran, the Hadith and the Sunnah and you can see for yourself that violence, slaughter, discrimination, hatred, assaults, rapes and utter misery are all par for the course. That is of course, unless you dispute that the Koran is in fact, NOT the ‘perfect and unalterable word of God’? Because according to that perfect and unalterable book – everything we see, all the horrors we witness – all the hideous ,sickening, obscene behaviours – they are pure, classic, unfiltered Islam. Its all there to see for ourselves, in your precious book.

Islam does not promote peace and understanding amongst other faiths. Islam demands and insists on subjugating and enslaving anyone with a different faith. Islam demands and insists on forced conversions and outright slaughter of those of other faiths. And the Jews….. Islam calls for the complete eradication of the People of the Book. And you know this. We all do. Not a day goes past when we don’t hear or see or read about 20 different random Muslims’ from all over the world, frothing at the mouth about the Jews and the existence of the state of Israel.

And NO. the Native Brits DO NOT have to accommodate. They do not have to respect and tolerate what is different. You have it completely upside down. It is up to the Muslim’s to assimilate into British society. To respect it. To tolerate it. Otherwise – don’t go there. But you bunch just looove Britain. Free healthcare, exceptional welfare and a culture that is scared of standing up and saying something remotely ‘offensive’- its the perfect place for workshy, uneducated, ignorant, ill-bred idiots who feel they are owed the world.

You follow a God through a faith that screams and rants and raves that you MUST slaughter and hate anyone different to you. And if you do this, you will be rewarded by that God of yours, for eternity, with a interestingly, hyper-sexualized form of Heaven. What kind of human being are you, to worship a God like that and to want a reward like that?

0349 JAT
0349 JAT
6 years ago

Converts to izlam are the worst.
It is as if they have to prove to themselves and others how muzlim they are.

tatka150
tatka150
6 years ago
Reply to  0349 JAT

Exactly. Like any other religion converts. The worst antisemites are usually the converts. Thank G-d – there are not too many in this case.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  0349 JAT

Wrong. See my post above re: the more than 6 million kafir slaughtered by muslums in the 20th century.

az
az
6 years ago

It’s the dark side of the force, quicker and seductive, very appealing to simpleton minds, as the ultimate get rich/women/power scheme, masking itself as a religion.
Muslim today, 4 wives tomorrow, do everything you want and get away with it and get a bonus 72 virgins at the end.
I can clearly see many retard losers, space wasters, doing jacks***, with no life at all, falling for this, or being played like an harmonica to fall for this.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  az

In ’48’ muslums were known to have sold their properties to Jews in Israel in anticipation of getting the properties back when the muslums slaughtered all the Jews. Fortunately their plans didn’t work out.

Citizen 1949
Citizen 1949
6 years ago

The one common thread between muslims, communists, liberals, socialists, etc. is an extreme dislike or even hatred of Christians and Jews. Their adgenda is advanced by force, lies, deception and even murder with the means being justified by the end. Since the dregs of society are the main ones attracted to and converted to islam it is no wonder they go overboard because they want to show off for their new found alliance.

Rocinante44
Rocinante44
6 years ago
Reply to  Citizen 1949

you left out democrats

Citizen 1949
Citizen 1949
6 years ago
Reply to  Rocinante44

They are included with liberals.

AlgorithmicAnalystD
AlgorithmicAnalyst
6 years ago

If the Europeans find out that under Sharia they will have to drink camel urine instead of beer, maybe that will cure them.

Duchess of Pork
Duchess of Pork
6 years ago

Is the camel nectar brought to you by sweet Hillside Heidi and Bavarian Babe not already part of the Ocktoberfest offering?

gfmucci
gfmucci
6 years ago

There are two primary approaches to minimizing the advance of Islam and its intolerant fascist doctrine against our culture and legal system. One will work; one will end in dismal failure:

1) Do what most government and media do: Feign ignorance of historic Islamic doctrine and action, pretend it does not exist and will do no harm; but just in case, be nice, do not provoke or insult them, be supportive in the infinitely remote chance that they will ignore 1,400 years of religious doctrine and fervor and spare us of their intimidation, jihad, conquest, dominance, intolerance, sharia and caliphate.

or

2) Recognize Islam and its adherents not as a religion and its followers deserving first amendment protections, but for what it is: an insurgent political movement that clearly intends to subvert our government, culture, freedoms and well being. Admit that such movement requires the same action taken when we discovered other fascist insurgencies in our midst: outlaw, deport, jail, or wage war against them.

tony curti
tony curti
6 years ago
Reply to  gfmucci

I think approach #1 is the approach chosen by a msm and political scene ruled by pedophiles and perverts; in my book it is designed to have as its success the dominance of islam.

WarEagle82
WarEagle82
6 years ago

I have been a Christian all my live. I have been a conservative, Evangelical Christian more than 30 years. I have NEVER, for one moment, thought of killing in the name of Christ. Yet, these people convert to Islam and are planning Jihad within a very short time. Kind of makes you wonder.

Bradley Lexvold
Bradley Lexvold
6 years ago

God is love. Love Righteous Indignation, love your fellow Christians who will go into this battle with you, and love your weapons, in whatever form they take. It’s time to roll the stone away.

Duchess of Pork
Duchess of Pork
6 years ago

Oh you know the answer Robert. These “reverts” are the bottom feeders and must climb their way up the status hierarchy. Peacocks must do what peacocks do. Holy texts are their go to guide, imams their mentors, shrouded females their slaves and daily there are demonstrations all around the world of how they can best be the man.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago

Years ago, Chuck Colson WARNED us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Colson

He had prison ministeries all over the U.S. and did wonderful work. May God bless his soul. He died a few years ago. He was literally begging other clergy to get involved because blacks in particular were turning to ISLAM.

Many blacks consider Christianity to be the “religion of WHITE people”, hence reject it. In prison they are angry and blame white society for being in there. Islam comes along and AGREES! Muslims view WHITE people in general as Christians. It’s easy to redirect their hatred and anger towards Christians and have fellow comradery with other Christian and Jew hating Muslims. Accepting Islam gives them a new excuse to be VIOLENT and vile.

Spaulj67
Spaulj67
6 years ago

Islam is based upon the teachings and life example of a mass murderer. I am always amazed that this simple fact is not at the heart of any debate about what Islam is and what it isn’t?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

Collectively, muslums slaughtered 6 million people in the 21st century including:
1. Jews in Baghdad (Farhud pogorm) and Bosnia (the latter slaughtered courtesy of the all muslum Waffen-SS Handschar division)
2. Christians in Armenia/Turkey
3. Hindus/Sikhs in Pakistain (both East and West) during the partition in ’48’
4. Hindus in Bangladesh (when Bangladesh broke away from Pakistain in the early 1970’s)
5. assorted kafir (mostly Catholic) in E. Timor
6. assorted kafir in the Sudan
7. Roma in Bosnia (once again slaughtered courtesy of the all muslum Waffen-SS Handschar division)
The overwhelming majority of muslums who committed these genocides were not recent, nor western converts to pi$$lam.

tony curti
tony curti
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

There is a certain “quirk” in those truths: the largest islamic population on earth is in Indonesia (>200 million) where while there has been some violence, to my view it has not (yet?) been as pronounced as the mid-eastern and Euro/American mayhem, or is it that it is not reported? Be interesting to see is they start to get on board with the rest of the cult.

az
az
6 years ago
Reply to  tony curti

Not reported. They are as savages as the rest of the muslims, but state censorship is heavily enforced by the authorities and the army.

See my reply to knightsstrength for more info

tony curti
tony curti
6 years ago
Reply to  az

thanks for the heads-up.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  tony curti

Tell it to the hundreds of thousands of victims’ families of the E. Timor genocide — tell them how the f’ing Indonesian muslums are non-violent. Or tell it to the non-muslims being ethnically cleansed from W. Papua New Guinea by f’ing Indonesian muslums — unless the job’s already complete.

tony curti
tony curti
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

thanks for the info. Much appreciated

az
az
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

The ruling Javanese need western papua for stealing cooper and gold. Locals get jacks****, and outsiders wonder why there’s so much conflicts in Indonesia…

knightsstrength
knightsstrength
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

West Papua missing from your list
https://www.freewestpapua.org/

Now Indonesian bases short step to Australia, with Nava!, Airforce and
Military. The list below sget less detailed last few years

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=indonesia&country2=australia&Submit=COMPARE

Couple videos on Indonesian TNI forces

Indonesian Military Power 2015
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7SDWv3YrmtE

Indonesian Military | TNI | 2016 HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0kzCnRfD5s

az
az
6 years ago

Not just west Papua. East Timor, Molucas, etc. Almost every place outside Java.

Indonesia is a Dutch colonial invention, which the Muslim Javanese capitalized on, by trying to islamize the whole archipelago. In the 80s and beyond, jakarta made mass migration of Javanese to the other islands (sounds familiar?) and bigger conflicts erupted.
In east Timor alone 450000 people were subject to 30 years of literal head hunting. There are pictures of Indonesian soldiers posing with the heads as trophys.
Islamists played a big part in this, helping the army murder everyone they could.
Right now, even remote tribal Indians know their true intentions, and don’t want Islam anywhere near them.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

These f’ing indonesian muslums have stealth aircraft? I’ll never buy anything from Indonesiastan again — that includes HDD’s or SSD’s (hear that WD).

knightsstrength
knightsstrength
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

The world would be a better place if Indonesia (spit) and Pakistan (spit again) were buried under 500 meters of water.

knightsstrength
knightsstrength
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Save the the non Muslima though

knightsstrength
knightsstrength
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Another bits
Indonesian-Chinese Genocide

No 7 also includes Bosniam Serbians, Jews, and it was Muslims Waffen SS (division of the Handschar) and Croation Catholic Ustaše both evill as they come including worse concentration camps than the Nazis run ones

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

I remember I just about fell out of my chair when a S. Korean Christian mentioned the genocide and pogroms committed against ethnic Chinese in Indonesia — I had him pegged as another cheek-turning, Christian liar for islum.

knightsstrength
knightsstrength
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

No it happened. Worst part we gave Indonesia aid, giving them military equipment, aircraft etc. Placed links below. Find heaps below, etan site can find heaps, Kissinger, Hillary etc

Some of our politicians just as guilty of murder.

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Genocide of Non-Muslims in Indonesia Chinese
http://mbplee.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/genocide-of-non-muslims-in-indonesia/

http://catholicleader.com.au/news/new-catholic-report-tells-stories-of-murder-kidnapping-and-torture-in-west-papua

Overview of Australia’s aid program to Indonesia
http://dfat.gov.au/geo/indonesia/development-assistance/pages/development-assistance-in-indonesia.aspx

Where did Australia give aid to, aid dropped by half in last couple years, while Indonesia spending up to $18 billion on defence
http://dfat.gov.au/aid/where-we-give-aid/pages/where-we-give-aid.aspx
Overview of Australia’s aid program to Indonesia
http://dfat.gov.au/geo/indonesia/development-a

http://www.etan.org/issues/wpapua/
West Papua Report December 2014
http://www.etan.org/issues/wpapua/2014/1412wpap.htm
http://www.etan.org

Documentary : The Indonesia Genocide in East Timor John Pilger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKBiDz8mao

USA, Australia and UK role in supplying weapons to kill
https://www.quora.com/Has-indonesia-ever-attacked-anyone
https://www.caat.org.uk/resources/countries/indonesia/labour
http://www.alternet.org/world/worries-west-papua-will-apache-attack-helicopters-sold-indonesia-destroy-calls-independence

If you can get the Library version of Balibo Five (2009), you will enjoy the documentary movie Been looking on YouTube but all blocked or just get a a few mi utes.
This dubbed vetrsion in another language
https://zona.mobi/movies/balibo

Indonesia accused of using Australian helicopters in West Papua ‘genocide’
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/24/indonesia-accused-australian-helicopters-west-papua-genocide

Indonesian air force to build two air bases October 2014
http://www.antaranews.com/en/news/95915/indonesian-air-force-to-build-two-air-bases

Indonesia to upgrade naval bases near Ambalat, Papua New Guinea
http://www.janes.com/article/53427/indonesia-to-upgrade-naval-bases-near-ambalat-papua-new-guinea

Indonesian special forces 2009
http://parakomando.blogspot.com.au/2009_06_01_archive.html 2009

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

AUS is giving aid to the f’ing Indonesian swein? That’s disgusting considering AUS practically stopped the E. Timor genocide by themselves. Why didn’t the aid go to the people of E. Timor? They’re the ones who deserve it, not the Indonesian monkeys.

knightsstrength
knightsstrength
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Should front the politicians that are still alive like Bob Hawke, Paul Keaton

Goff Whitlam deceased

I did post these links below the video, of America, UK, Netherlands also funding Indonesia

USA, Australia and UK role in supplying weapons to kill
https://www.quora.com/Has-indonesia-ever-attacked-anyone
https://www.caat.org.uk/resources/countries/indonesia/labour
http://www.alternet.org/world/worries-west-papua-will-apache-attack-helicopters-sold-indonesia-destroy-calls-independence

Dennis
Dennis
6 years ago

No doubt many converts have had their ignorance of Islam taken advantage of and converted with a shove so to speak. Those with second thoughts surely are reminded of the consequences of apostasy. Thus in this way the element of fear takes over and ultimately determines their level of commitment to Allah.

tony curti
tony curti
6 years ago

you have to wonder if they join up BECAUSE islam lets them kill/rape/torture/lie/cheat/steal/ etcetera etcetera etcetera….

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago

We saw the same phenomenon with Obhammud, who was not the first black President but the first mixed race one. The only problem was that he never “acted white”. A prime example is that ’07 speech he gave in VA in front of a black audience during which he talked in an affected “ghetto accent”, supposedly learned on the “mean streets” of Honolulu.

Robert
Robert
6 years ago

It’s all so obvious, isn’t it? Unfortunately for certain people (namely liberals) it’s not so obvious.
For a look at what I (and you) are up against check out my first two posts and the replies thereafter
on AlterNet.org.

Ayna
Ayna
6 years ago

Well, it’s not that there haven’t been studies to people converting to other death sects before, with no other outcome than just using common sense would also point out:

plain dumb, psychological unstable, all kinds of traumatic experiences, self-hate, revenge on society in general, etc.

Iftikhar Ahmad
Iftikhar Ahmad
6 years ago

I have no doubts that, if a Christian
committed an act of terror like this, some people would try blaming
Christianity. Some people already do. Christianity has been used to justify an
awful lot of evils, murders, and injustices in the world.

However, attacking Christianity isn’t understanding the
full scope of the issue, and attacking Christians is pointless. In the same way,
attacking Islam isn’t understanding the issue and attacking Muslims is helping
neither us, nor them.

Religion only amplifies aspects of
your character. If an evil man becomes a Muslim, he will use his faith to
justify evil deeds. If a good man becomes a Muslim, he will use his faith to do
good deeds. The same is true of many religions and
ideologies.

A cowboy an native
America Indian and a Muslim are discussing their people. The native American
Indian said, “Once my people were many, and now they are few.” The Muslim said,
“Once my people were few and now, they are MANY!!” The American said, “That’s
just cause we aren’t played cowboys and Muslims yet…..
So this idiot is actually taking pleasure in the fact that his
ancestors committed mass genocide(even though they refuse to call it such) to
give him the kind of white privileged life he is living today?
It is actually a source of pride for
this fool that his European heritage were mass murderers and
terrorist

Just call it violence. The man committed a violent crime.
By using terms like “terror”, and “terrorism”, you’re making it into something
more than it was: the desperate, cowardly act of a pathetic excuse for a man.
ISIS claimed responsibility did they? Good for them. Don’t play into the hands
of these arseholes. That’s
one question that is not answered yet, “what evidence links him to Islam?”,
surely the police have his data and home evidence surely they need to show that
to connect it. Because the guy tried to commit murder before he converted and
committee a murder after he converted. Big questions.

Lets not also Forget, He was a Christian for 45 years Adrian
Russell.. he become violent and stabbed people while he was a Christian… I
guess maybe that a very Christian upbringing isn’t it??

This man has a string of crimes and violence before using any
religion has an excuse. I would just call him a crazed Brit.
where did
the guy in London state anywhere that he was doing it in the name of Islam …
nowhere. The sad thing is more
people have died at the hands of kids going into schools and shooting their
class mates. Over the last decade than any attack blamed on religious or
political purposes. More unharmed men have died at the end of a police officers
gun. But they blame Islam.

Before you rant about Islam, the
US-coalition murdered nearly 260 civilians in only one day in Mosul and Raqqa
the other day. Now, who is the terrorist? Nearly every single “Islamic” terrorist who have attacked in the
West have been a Salafi drug addict who drink alcohol, run nightclubs or commit any other grave
sin. Anyway, when Muslims are murdered, or mosques burnt down in the West, no
one who call themselves as “experts on Islam” seem to go on a rant. So, tell me
again, who is the
terrorist?

I was watching the other
day BBC news and they were talking about his childhood, why? He killed 3 people
on Wednesday and another person died after. I don’t care he was from Kent, which
school we went, what did he do in Arabia Saudi etc. He killed innocent people.
Newspapers and TV should be talking about those innocent people who died more
than this disgusting person. Despite what some haters would want you
to believe, Islam strictly forbids killing indiscriminately, killing
non-combatant, destroying the environment eg. poisoning wells or chopping down
trees and plants, destroying properties, wanton killing of
animals etc. In short, as far as Islam is
concerned, there is no such thing as necessary collateral
damage.

Pastor C
Pastor C
6 years ago
Reply to  Iftikhar Ahmad

Your analysis, while you think it to be brilliant, misses the point.

Islam teaches that Mohammed, its founder, is the perfect example. Christianity, however, teaches that Jesus is the perfect example.

Examine the lives of both. One was exceedingly sinful, violent, etc. The other was sinless and peaceful.

One was a mere, deeply-flawed and sinful man. The other was God in human flesh and proved it by His resurrection from the dead. He is risen!

Whichever one follows, Jesus or Mohammed, determines and demonstrates their character as well as their conduct.

Those who follow Mohammed, and the teachings of the Koran, will act just like Him. Those who follow Jesus, and His teachings (in the New Testament) will strive to be ‘like Christ’ (ergo) the very definition of what it means to be a Christian.

It’s as simple as that. So, don’t complicate it.

Jesus said, “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father (Yahweh-not Allah) except through Me!” (John 14:6)

JWM
JWM
6 years ago
Reply to  Pastor C

Yes, it is just that simple. We have far too much theology today and not enough Christ.

Pastor C
Pastor C
6 years ago
Reply to  JWM

Amen.

Pastor C
Pastor C
6 years ago

Why these Muslims do what they do is simple. Jesus stated the pathology plainly. “The thief (Satan) comes to steal, kill and destroy. But I have come so that you might have life (spiritual and eternal), and have it more abundantly.” (John 10:10)

Ayna
Ayna
6 years ago
Pastor C
Pastor C
6 years ago
Reply to  Ayna

It’s who they are, so it’s what they do. Their ‘perfect example’ did it, so will they. It’s as simple as that.

oldironsides
oldironsides
6 years ago

I suspect that every one of those recent converts to Islam were already filled with hate and they individually recognized the truth that Islam was a religion of hate and felt a kinship with them.

EMIRCITNA
EMIRCITNA
6 years ago
Reply to  oldironsides

BINGO!

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s;vbkr0boc,klos;
6 years ago

READ THEIR BOOK. It is even clearer than Hitler’s Mein Kampf is of Nazi intentions. Spencer’s guide is the plainest and utterly incontrovertible.

Arcturus
Arcturus
6 years ago

When someone wants to join a gang he takes on an initiation assignment to demonstrate loyalty and impress “the big guy.” In islam “the big guy” is big al who demands a blood sacrifice.

EMIRCITNA
EMIRCITNA
6 years ago

ANGOLA was the FIRST country to BAN ISLAM; China soon followed! Japan does not allow Muslims to become Japanese citizens and even Cuba refuses them building permits for mosques, which bring to question if these countries have more intelligent leaders within government than the USA?!!!

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  EMIRCITNA

Please prove China has banned islum or Angola for that matter, because I’ve read Angola officially denies they’ve banned pislum.

EMIRCITNA
EMIRCITNA
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

IT’S ON THE NET…do some research like I did!

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  EMIRCITNA

All China did was ban fasting on Ramadan, islamic clothes (incl. veils and burqas) and beards from one province. That’s hardly banning islum in its entirety. A governor of a major province in the PRC is a f’ing muslum.
Angola has not banned islum, it’s a fake report:
https://www.truthorfiction.com/angola-becomes-the-first-country-to-ban-islam/

Banjoboy
Banjoboy
6 years ago

Islam sounds like pedophile heaven, no wonder so many are converting ,free child sex women as sex slaves where is the religion factor promoted, how has Muhammad taught the way to live as humans with decency and respect?

RayG1
RayG1
6 years ago

The answer to the question is: Intelligence and Ego! The 28 countries that are 90% Muslim(or greater) have an average IQ of 80.5. Why are the Muslim recruiters having such success in our prison population? Where else would a group of low intelligence people go to find recruits if not in other accumulations of low intelligence people? Prisons are full of dummies, ripe for recruitment by the Muslim dummies. Who else would actually believe the 72 virgin fairy tale and actually want female sex slaves? The few who are a cut above the average Muslim IQ most likely have an ego problem. The Muslims terrorists are desperate to recruit foreign operatives because they make better leaders than the homegrown average terrorist with their low IQ. These leadership positions are what stroke the egos of those who may be a bit smarter than the rest. Eventually it will be this lack of intelligence that will lead to their failure worldwide.

Tatiana Covington
Tatiana Covington
6 years ago

It’s the red-hot novice syndrome.

Metatrona
Metatrona
6 years ago

No penalty…no jail time…for horrible crimes in the Islamic world. They get off on serial murderers.

Steve
Steve
6 years ago

I would like to see a study with percentages of recruits who become terrorists including categorizing by race, nationality, criminality, prior religion, and other pertinent data. The reasoning is to find out what is putting together the lethal mix of muslamic and recruited. Of course we know already the koran, hadith and sira are volatile texts for the most part but i suspect the recruitment uses people who are a fuse ready to explode. Consider a murderer who gets out of jail on parole and has been worked up by the visiting muslamic association to feel that his failure in life can be blamed on someone else. If that person is a minority already carrying a chip on his/her shoulder, he/she can be easily brainwashed into a muslamic terrorist tool for the greater cause of jihad with both feeling a sense of perverted gain.

warpmine
warpmine
6 years ago

Is there any particular reason e have to live with this s***?

Lover of Truth
Lover of Truth
6 years ago

Islam is of Satan

dave oliver
dave oliver
6 years ago

I wonder how much longer it will be a crime to kill the infidel

Stefanie Daniella
Stefanie Daniella
6 years ago

as long as any individual has islam/muhammad/allah/quran as a very close part of their identity … even if it isn’t so apparent to others

at anytime … such individual asleep to what is deeply there … can readily be awakened to it with greater quranic clarity … to act faithfully and in obedience to its quranic calling … to fulfill duties to ensuring islam’s supremacy, its dominance … via jihad/mujahideen action

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