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UK pol on London jihadi: “The fact that the man is a Muslim is utterly and completely irrelevant”
By Robert Spencer, March 24, 2017:
Digby Jones is the former Minister of State for Trade and Investment in the UK. Here he is denying the ancient adage that one must know one’s enemy in order to defeat that enemy. The fact that Khalid Masood was a Muslim is only irrelevant if his Muslim identity had nothing to do with his motive for mounting the attack. But Jones doesn’t know whether it did or not; he is just assuming that it didn’t because to say otherwise would be politically inconvenient. If the London attacker had been a white supremacist, would Jones be saying that his motive was irrelevant? Of course not. If there were an organized group of international white supremacists calling for terror attacks in Britain and elsewhere, and vowing to destroy the British government and replace it with a white supremacist regime, and there were numerous white supremacists in Britain publicly avowing that they were on board with this program, and one of them drove into a crowd of pedestrians and then stabbed a police officer, would Digby Jones be saying that the attacker’s white supremacism was irrelevant?
“Britons are denouncing Donald Trump Jr.’s attack on London’s mayor,” by Isaac Stanley-Becker, Washington Post, March 22, 2017:
…British lawmakers emerging from Westminster Abbey, where they found sanctuary after the attack, also defended the mayor — and insisted his Muslim identity would not be a factor as the city comes to grips with the incident.“There should not be a single thought about what his identity is,” said Pola Uddin, a member of the House of Lords. “This is a moment of reflection for all Londoners, and should lead us to consider the fact that we largely haven’t experienced such attacks before, while other cities have.”
Dominic Grieve, a Conservative MP, said the mayor was not in a difficult position owing to prior statements on terrorism and security — “none whatsoever,” he said.
The message the mayor has sent to London residents is fitting, said Digby Jones. “You’re safer in London than you’ve ever been,” he said. “If this turns out to be an act of Islamic terrorism, I think the fact that the man is a Muslim is utterly and completely irrelevant.”
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131 Comments
7 years ago
Our politicians do not speak for the British people.
It’s as if someone else is pulling their strings.
The only one that speaks the truth is Nigel Farage.
D
7 years ago
Reply to
Cai
He reminds me of one of CAPTAIN AMERICA’S enemies.
Either the Red Skull or Baron Zemo who also has a disfigured looking face.
(Captain America of course has been hijacked by the left and is no longer the same character that came out during WW2).
But still, George Soros is a villain.
7 years ago
Reply to
Inmate of Diversityland
And they allow their strings to be pulled for whatever reason, bribery maybe,
promises or ideology, utopian ideals, whatever BUT which is their responsibility and theirs alone actually choosing to be traitors.
And as for all the useful idiots William Wilberforce had some strong words for them.
Granted about the slave trade in this instance , but in the end matters not, such words ring through time:p and especially our time:
“You can deny it all but you can never say again that you did not know”
7 years ago
Reply to
Kittee
Those who call themselves globalists, such as Soros, feel that they do not owe their allegiance to any nation. They are citizens of the world, trying desperately to bring in the new world order, before the entire world goes completely broke and bust.
7 years ago
Reply to
Inmate of Diversityland
His face would make good target practice then feed him to the pigs, he is putrid
7 years ago
Reply to
D.Moore
There are thinks so putrid as to give indigestion to hogs… Ground Soros-burger is one of them… then I doubt even sharks would eat him…
7 years ago
Reply to
Inmate of Diversityland
This has got to be the ugliest man on earth, inside and out. Soros should be put in prison and kept there.
7 years ago
Reply to
Inmate of Diversityland
Even Israel upholds this bag of filth!! Hearing this the other day I went immediatly to rage!! How can they uphold someone that is a nazi collaborator who enjoyed killing off his own people? Me thinks that we need to re evaluate many of our allies, and many of our supposed enemies!
*May George Soros find himself following his good friend Rothchild soon…. Lord knows all nations who uphold freedom, peace and personal rights could name the day of his passing as national holidays!!
7 years ago
Reply to
Inmate of Diversityland
Yes, Soreass is one of them; but he’s not the only one.
7 years ago
Reply to
Hans Yolo
Those following the truth first are walking a lonely and dangerous road but at least they know where it is supposed to go.
7 years ago
Reply to
Hans Yolo
The cultural Marxists are pulling his strings. They want chaos and we are not giving it to them, so they are helping us along. http://www.newswithviews.com/Whitney/david227.htm
7 years ago
Reply to
sodacrackers2
You guys might also like State of the Nation. Fantastic site with real news and great resource for facts (all articles are sourced and double checked for accuracy).
Link to site–>http://stateofthenation2012.com/
and here is a story link to one of the current articles on how this was a contrived false flag event to take the heat and conversation off of the ‘wiretap’ talk that occures not only in our own 16 clandestine agencies..but how Britian participates by spying on US citizens while the US spies on Britian’s citizens. *smh
link to the story—->http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=69499
7 years ago
Reply to
Pamela Olson
Thank you so much! It gives me hope that at least many Americans are looking for and finding the truth. I will look at these now.
7 years ago
Reply to
Hans Yolo
I truly hope that Trump keeps calling out and ridiculing the miserable little Muslim squirt, Sadiq Khan. In the past Kahn made inflammatory Muslim statements and now wishes it away.
7 years ago
Reply to
Hans Yolo
Guess it’s time to toss these bloody idiots into the River with an arrow in the back. These people are traitors to the people and the country.
7 years ago
7 years ago
1984 just came a little later than we thought.
The good news is, by virtue of Brexit and the election of Donald Trump, long-time allies UK and U.S. are going to be ahead of the curve as Europe, Africa and the Middle East collapse under the weight of their own ignorance, short-sightedness and political correctness…
7 years ago
Good grief! Are ALL Brits afflicted with this PC lunacy? Perhaps he should just bury his head in the sand – that way it will soak up the blood while the hateful muslims cut off his head…
7 years ago
Reply to
arnoldspriggs
Aye, we have clueless, dreck-headed pols here in the states as well. Look no further than the senile Pelosi, the douchebag Schumer, the brainless “Dick” Durban & the imbecilic Al Franken – plus many more on the left.
How I wish our British brothers and sisters across the pond could force these elitists to live in Birmingham among the jihadis for a few months! There’s little doubt they would soon experience a miraculous, real-world epiphany…
7 years ago
Reply to
Harley-D
No, only the politicians, the BBC, MSM & Z rated liberal extremist celebrities. Most of the British people are really angry, but laws have been passed to censor what people can say, MSM censors comments & controls the public debate. Personally, I think our Government, & the EU have been infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood, just like what happened in the US. What other explanation is there for Governments to oppress & sacrifice their own people, culture & religion in order to appease a foreign religion/political ideology?
7 years ago
Reply to
nina roberts
Great post Nina! Alas, what CAN be done – now that there are so many of these barbarians in the UK?? The government has taken or restricted most of the privately-owned weapons and has made self-defense nearly impossible. It seems that the only ones that can obtain weapons are the hajjis. Your thoughts, please!
7 years ago
Reply to
Harley-D
Molotov cocktails are easy to make, learn self defense, slingshots (if you can get any accuracy) can do quite a bit of damage to the head… a sock full of lead can make a good cosh…People need to form an ‘underground resistance” and draw up battle plans, for offensive and defensive operations… It may come to this.. Just think, neighbourhood watch will take on a whole new meaning
7 years ago
Reply to
Harley-D
Well we all know elections won’t change anything because politicians from all parties apart from UKIP, are either bought or compromised by globalist/Islamist/cultural Marxists. So we have to play them at their own game. Start UK special interest organisations & lobbying groups. While one would be right to assume that this is what our elected representatives should be doing, we know the reality is that they are actively working to undermine our culture and religious institutions and oppress our freedoms of speech to benefit a foreign culture/political ideology/religion. However, due to their anti-British agenda, the Government with the full support of MSM, will marginalize such groups to deter people from supporting them, as has been the case with say National Front/English Defense League.
As individuals, we can share information on social media to educate/wake people up. The minute we turn to violence we have lost, that is what the Government wants, it knows how to deal with civil unrest, and will milk it for what its worth to gain sympathy for the Muslim cause. We need to join up with anti-immigration organisations in Europe and America, become a force to be reckoned with, without falling foul of the law. We, the forgotten millions of indigenous Europeans need to become a massive force for democratic change. Lets hope Le Pen wins France & the EU falls apart this year, that will give us momentum.
Each migrant rape, riot & terrorism attack alienates them further from the decent European people. We don’t need to lie, scheme or manipulate like the Islamist’s are doing, their attitude and behaviour are giving us facts, undeniable proof and truth as a weapon to use against them.
7 years ago
The fools that British voters elect to parliament have validated that they are idiots with no grasp of reality. The only thing that is apparent is they are owned by islam.
7 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
There is no real choice is there. Liberals are finished after Con/Lib coalition, looks like Labour has self imploded, & the minority parties have no chance of forming a Government. In any case, the way the House of Parliament works is there are about 640 seats, about 370 are safe seats, so they get given to the ‘old boy network candidates’. There are only about 210 democratically elected politicians, rest are Establishment. So people have no chance of winning, regardless of who is in power. (my numbers my be slightly out, but the outcome is definitely how it works). House of Lords isn’t elected, members are either Government cronies or born with titles. Monarchy is by birthright. End of the day, democracy is a sham in the current UK system. May is proving to be the best PM since Thatcher, but she’s appeasing the Islamist’s at the expense of the British, that’s my only complaint about her so far. Would love Farage to become PM, but that is never going to happen.
7 years ago
Reply to
nina roberts
“May is proving to be the best PM since Thatcher” take two midol, lay down and rethink that in the morning.
7 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
I’d rather see her take HCN in an aqueous solution for a good night’s rest.
7 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Half a pint of gin would work for her. Hydrogen cyanide is a bit hard to handle.
7 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
Well we do set a low bar in the UK! If you look back at our past PM,s, you will see what I mean, Blair, Major, Brown, and a few other duffers.
7 years ago
Reply to
Generalpatern
From the look of most western politicians, there is evidence that muslims are not the only inbred cult.
7 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
It’s morning -:) Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron……..yes, May is the best one we have had since Thatcher. Lets see, Major remember the hypocrites ‘family values’ while he was having an affair with Edwina Curry. What did he achieve? Nothing. Blair….corrupt, globalist scum with blood on his hands, sent people out looking for immigrants to bring to the UK, enough said. Brown, OMG what a disaster, did anything go right for that man while he was PM? Cameron, what a joke, will be remembered for sexual acts with pigs. Trying & failing to get our troops on the ground in Syria, and I will be eternally grateful for his EU Referendum which he lost.
7 years ago
Reply to
nina roberts
Jones come from a humble background, a hardworking family with a corner shop, till supermarkets killed many off. Also not an MP as I explain earlier.
7 years ago
Let England fall. It’s too late for them when they have Manchurion candidates like this running their government
7 years ago
Reply to
santashandler
A lot of us over here would rather that it didn’t.
This chap (Andrew Neil) is one of the few journalists to speak out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RcmVobP320
7 years ago
Reply to
santashandler
About time some with access to a tv studio spoke out, well done Andrew
7 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
You mean Basically Broadcasting Communism!
No, he’s still there thankfully but no doubt has been hauled in by his masters and told to wind his neck in.
7 years ago
Reply to
santashandler
Does not run Gov, he in “Other Place”, its like a giant Consultancy outfit, ie House of Lords, also used for testing sleeping pills.
7 years ago
He’s irrelevant and out of touch with the British people!!
7 years ago
The truth and facts don’t matter to progressive liberals, only their hidden agenda does and everything else is fake, because you know, progressive liberalism is…..
(You’ve guess it)
A MENTAL DISEASE.
7 years ago
Reply to
az
Leftists and those who choose to conform to leftists are on average no different than anyone else. They are similar with respect to intellect and clarity of thought. You confuse mental disorders with evil. We confront evil; not crazies.
7 years ago
What makes this man feel the need to speak for Muslims, does he not think they’re capable of speaking for themselves? Perhaps before he does, he should read the Koran and also read up on 1400 years of the history of Islam.
It’s quite unbelievable that a person can be so far removed from reality, yet still hold elected office.
7 years ago
Reply to
OverIt
Never underestimate the gullible naivety of the english voter. They are marked as suckers, pastes and stooges from birth.
7 years ago
He looks demented. He would have to be demented to spin lies that no one outside of the mentally challenged would believe.
7 years ago
I wonder if muslum collaborating politicians the world over have lying contests to determine who can tell the biggest whopper about islum?
7 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
and Yemen, Somolia, Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Turkey, The United Arab Emirates (UAE)…oh hell, any nation where Islam is the ‘reigning’ philosphy. That would include Indonesia and many of the minor Asian nations…. literally land masses that is equal to the supposedly westernized nations of the world. *smh.
**Battle is coming… don’t fool yourselves to thinking anything but a full out war breaking out across this globe is coming to a city/state near you soon.
7 years ago
Reply to
Red Lope
Truth is, they have all allowed Satan to take over their minds, actions and souls. I feel sorry for their wives and kids.
7 years ago
What a joke, it is deeply relevant and alarming. We cannot ignore the reality of terrorism forever, at least not without paying a heavy cost.
7 years ago
Digby Jones is well known in Britain for being a complete prat.
7 years ago
Reply to
arnoldspriggs
Who in their right mind would call a child digby.. His parents were sadists
7 years ago
Reply to
Lynn D
Perhaps they had a premonition that their child would grow up to be an idiot?
7 years ago
Reply to
Lynn D
He looks like one of those pasty faced over fed useless idiots that seem to be in every single westernized government of late. More then likely part of the global issue that we know as pedo gate!! *smh. How on earth did we fall so completely asleep as to let these aholes into our government!!??
7 years ago
Reply to
arnoldspriggs
Silly question…but I want to make sure in the future I use the word in it’s proper context. Prat… a imbecile or less then a imbecille and just ‘daft’? Or is Daft something different? What about Prig…is that in the same context…or something all together different? *Thanks in advance…been awhile since I’ve used any of the above in context and want to make sure I’ve the right ‘slang’ for each moron we are pointing out.
7 years ago
Is Digby short for Dingbat?
7 years ago
When the facts clearly show the situation to be contrary to what this goose-brained politician and other space-brained ‘elites’ & media are putting forward, can there be any hope for Britain? Short of their ‘innocuous’ muslims setting off a nuclear bomb in London there probably won’t be any deductive reasoning which will spring forth into the heads of these brainwashed zombies. It defies every instinctual & logical pathway in the human mind to take the line of argument that these stupids are advancing. Unless there is a seismic political change towards UKIP, Britain is finished!! Remember that these are the stupids that the brainwashed public voted for. And a Muslim mayor of London??? Since WWII the Left have definitely won the ideological war of minds and hearts with their PC brainwashing of young people in schools and universities. No different to the Masai telling their children to forget the past and instructing them that lions and hyenas were friendly animals whom they could walk up to and pat. Eventually there’d be no more Masai. This is what is happening in Britain and Europe. It is diseased with chronic brain failure and the disease is proving terminal.
7 years ago
In politics stupidity is not a handicap
——-Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
7 years ago
The latest political correctness censorship is that the truthful term, ‘Islamic Terrorism’ is being dropped in favour of the term ‘International Terrorism’. Thus removing the link between terrorism and Muslim’s. Apart from trying to mask the obvious truth, which is dishonest. The political correct term of ‘International Terrorism’ could be used against countries like Russia, who are not engaged in terrorism, just victims of Western propaganda. When reading any ‘news’ source, be very aware of the language and terminology being used, it is deliberate in order to manipulate you.
7 years ago
When nature allows a fool to be born, it gives them the face of a fool. Parliament testifies to this.
7 years ago
Reply to
Mahou Shoujo
Isn’t it time Canada stopped being a Commonwealth country? I guess it might not make much difference now…
7 years ago
7 years ago
Jeeez. Such unremitting and willful ignoring the problem of Islam…What is it going to take to stop this national suicide.?? Does every constituent, in every electorate, have to write, phone or email their local politico, that they want the issue of islamic terror and jihad to be spoken about honestly.. I think it’s high time this was put to a national referendum..
7 years ago
Nice way to reassure your citizens! Yeah bet they all went home with that message and threw up their lunch. Never ever will you hear these political deuche bags say , “This is the meaningof Islam and what happens when you with worship of a pagan moon god /Satan these people are still living in the 7rth century'” “Every citizen should be afraid very afraid” oh no, no truths will ever come from these crooked politically correct traitorous leaders,you have to figure it out on your own. If your stupid and don’t catch on oh well !
Vote them out !!!
7 years ago
Reply to
Generalpatern
Guess I wasn’t being very observant . That’s even worse someone you can’t be rid of .
7 years ago
Baloney. Why should I give a hoot what those idiots think?
7 years ago
I blame the voters
7 years ago
Someone should let him know, only muslims commit acts of islamic terrorism and that more people have died at the hands of islamists then other other group of terrorists.
7 years ago
Digby Jones you are irrelevant other than in your quest to hide the truth behind Islam terrorism. You are causing more damage and should be proud to call Obama a friend of yours. May the female members of your family never have to suffer the barbarism that you so lovingly try to hide. Now I have a picture of what a confused clown looks like but in this case the clown is very dangerous to all non Muslims, his name is Digby Jones.
7 years ago
Why doesn’t the political class just “revert” then if they are so keen on Islam?
7 years ago
He wants us to know that the car and knife were radicalized!
7 years ago
They ought to ask the american tourist who went flying off the bridge to his death if he thinks its irrelevant to know who killed him – but its too late. If mr bean went berserk (which wouldn’t be a stretch) and started offing muslamics it would probably be a fair question to ask if a comedian had completely lost his mind – but then again.
D
7 years ago
Close the Chunnel, that might help 🙂
7 years ago
Jones needs to finish his statement about being a muslime being irrelevant. He should have said it “should be irrelevant but the muslimes will not let that be the case by constantly making a Hollywood production of it.”
7 years ago
It’s not everyone’s thing to be a religious leader & lead people away from the Islamic belief-system to something new, something truth & human rights & truth respecting.
The problem is when these Islamic belief-system supporters start harassing, censoring, arresting, plotting even merging into the Islamic belief-system, arming & plotting mass-murder of non-Islamics.
# Free the truth, the Biafra-leader, the Leavenworth 10, the Africans enslaved from Saudi Arabia to Mauritania..
7 years ago
Jones is not an elected Member of Parliament, he was knighted and went to the House of Lords, he has a very solid business background. He is usually well worth listening to. However I cant side with him on this one.
I’m just setting out a few facts as he is not an elected representative of the people, not by the people, for the people.
7 years ago
No sir cowardly treasonous politicians like you are irrelevant!
7 years ago
These politicians are really irrelevant: they do not act for the good of the people. Indeed they try in every way to destabilize the country because the NWO has ordered them to do so. When the population will rise to put an end to this situation?
7 years ago
He is another liar. What he means to say is that evil is irrelevant to him. Our problems aren’t rooted in the moslems we’ve invited into our nations. Our problems are rooted in the evil we’ve welcomed into our cultures.
7 years ago
Sure.
And the Charles Manson concept of Helter Skelter had nothing to do with the Tate LaBianca murders even though the perps wrote “Helter Skelter” in the victims’ blood at both crime scenes.
7 years ago
Ha ha he’s a fatty
7 years ago
Stupid just keeps getting stupider.
7 years ago
A fat slob of a “Perfect Dhimmi”…get off the side walk Kafir and let a Muslim pass by!…
D
7 years ago
Another day….another day of more stupider comments by politicians, former and present, that should know better! Tomorrow, we can expect the same.
7 years ago
“If this turns out to be an act of Islamic terrorism, I think the fact that the man is a Muslim is utterly and completely irrelevant.”
“If this turns out to be an act of Islamic terrorism….”? IF? I would think that part is obvious.
“….I think the fact that the man is a Muslim is utterly and completely irrelevant.” This politician is delusional.
His comments are typical of the delusions of western politicians and political leaders.
I certainly hope Nigel Farage becomes British PM.
7 years ago
Muslims like a climate of fear. That’s what they have in their countries all
over the world – to make people more prone to submit to Islam.
The minute people heard about the murders and maiming in London,
they knew right away a Muslim did it – even before anyone knew who he was.
And that absolute fact – that the killer IS a Muslim – makes it totally
relevant.
7 years ago
Reply to
Annie
A good point, islum is a religion founded on fear and not even of allah so much as his murderous minions.
7 years ago
Actually this politician has got it spot on right. The issue is not a muslim issue. The relevant thing is that our laws are letting these muslims get away with their hate crimes. I wish to add that our stupid citizens vote for politicians that don’t hold their country in the highest esteem like they should. A country is the most valuable thing that a person has. It provides everything else that we have (security, education, health, wealth, shelter..etc.). The national security is above all other laws and that is not negotiable. The politicians are compromising our security every day in exchange for votes. That has to be monitored and controlled. I am not claiming to be a know it all. But an act by a politician that brings harm to a country or its citizens should be investigated. The law was found to serve and protect the people and not the other way around.
7 years ago
Reply to
Mack Daniels
You are 100% correct, it is about votes and their jobs
Also their feel-good PC brain washed mental illness
Islamic terrorists shout out why they are killing innocent people
I don’t know how much more evidence is needed
All those left with a real brain
Have to start voting en masse for what they want their country to be
USA is a good start, others will follow
7 years ago
Looks like Benny Hill. Maybe he’s a comedian?
7 years ago
What the hell is wrong with these people?
7 years ago
It IS ENTIRELY RELEVANT THAT HE IS A MUSLIM. He has been taught since a very young child that he must hate and kill all non muslims. Just like people learn their A,B,C’s, so the muslim children learn to hate and kill from an even younger age. They do not belong in our society. We can better help them by providing for them in their own countries. Much more cheaply as well.
7 years ago
“..is utterly and completely irrelevant”
Believe it or not. I would’nt.
A Swedish TV news presenter in the picture.
7 years ago
I honestly don’t get the hard stigma that the British have placed upon themselves within the topics of multiculturalism and the scary moniker of possible ‘phobia’ of muslims. Is it a phobia if it is indeed a rational fear of being beaten? raped? killed? savaged? I don’t think that is a unrealistic ‘phobia’…in fact it seems more then rational to me.
Now as far as phobia’s go, most in the mental health proffesion will tell you that facing said ‘phobia’ is the best and fastest way to deal with said fear and conquer it. Better to face that fear before that very real fear turns upon you, laying out dead out on the cement for all to see!!
Regardless what westernized country one lives in, we are all being forced by our ‘over lords’ to PC and pretty up the most ugly of things on the planet… the Moon God worshipping cult known as Islam. Thomas Jefferson, the supposed founding father of liberalism, took this group of people head on in the issue of his day that was the Barbary Pirates. The Barbary Pirates were Moors…who were the Moors? Islamist!! He ordered his young but very capable navy to capture these pirates…. once they were grouped up, they were put on display in the public square… and out of 300, 299 were drawn, quarted and laid bare to the bone to die. One, one lone survivor was sent home…why? To tell the tale of what will happen if any Moors, Islamist, Muslims choose to visit the USA ever again. We had no issue with these people until the ubber liberal PC Carter took the POTUS. He opened the doors wide to these monsters…and since the late 70’s (mostly Iranian then) we had nothing but story after story of abuse, honor killings, and other such disgusting crimes against neighbors, family and co workers. *smh.
My point? If Jefferson understood all those many many many decades ago what needed to be done, why can’t our leaders today see their horrible mistake and follow what needs doing instead of keeping up the charade known as multiculturalism and Pcism? *blind, dead, and most certainly dumb.
7 years ago
Just another coward politician in a position to help but too afraid.
7 years ago
The media reported that he was “teaching English in Saudi Arabia”. No. That’s what he told the UK border agent. He was actually in Syria with ISIS, then returned.
