Scottish Cathedral That Featured Quran Reading Denying Key Christian Tenet Doubles Down

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The story has by now gone around the world: on January 6 at St. Mary’s Cathedral, the Scottish Episcopal Church’s cathedral in Glasgow, a passage of the Qur’an was read out denying that Jesus is the Son of God, a core tenet of Christianity. The incident was emblematic of how the contemporary West has lost a sense of itself, and is so “open” to “the other” that it is ripe for invasion and conquest – which is exactly what the particular “other” that was allowed to proclaim its faith at St. Mary’s Cathedral has in mind. Yet after an international furor, Scottish Episcopal Church officials have not apologized; on the contrary, they’ve doubled down.

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The Qur’an reading at the cathedral was apparently part or all of this: “And mention in the Book Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place toward the east. And she took, in seclusion from them, a screen. Then We sent to her Our Angel, and he represented himself to her as a well-proportioned man. She said, ‘Indeed, I seek refuge in the Most Merciful from you, if you should be fearing of Allah.’ He said, ‘I am only the messenger of your Lord to give you a pure boy.’ She said, ‘How can I have a boy while no man has touched me and I have not been unchaste?’ He said, ‘Thus: your Lord says, “It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to the people and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter decreed.”‘ So she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a remote place. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm tree. She said, ‘Oh, I wish I had died before this and was in oblivion, forgotten.’ But he called her from below her, ‘Do not grieve; your Lord has provided beneath you a stream. And shake toward you the trunk of the palm tree; it will drop upon you ripe, fresh dates. So eat and drink and be contented. And if you see from among humanity anyone, say, “Indeed, I have sworn to the Most Merciful a fast, so I will not speak today to man.”‘ Then she brought him to her people, carrying him. They said, ‘O Mary, you have certainly done a thing unprecedented. O sister of Aaron, your father was not a man of evil, nor was your mother unchaste.’ So she pointed to him. They said, ‘How can we speak to one who is in the cradle a child?’ He said, ‘Indeed, I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet. And He has made me blessed wherever I am and has enjoined upon me prayer and zakah as long as I remain alive and dutiful to my mother, and He has not made me a wretched tyrant. And peace is on me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I am raised alive.’ That is Jesus, the son of Mary – the word of truth about which they are in dispute. It is not for Allah to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” (Qur’an 19:16-35)

That last bit, “It is not for Allah to take a son,” is in direct contradiction to what the Anglican Church is supposed to believe: “And the angel said to her, ‘The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God.” (Luke 1:35)

What kind of madness has overtaken the Anglicans in Glasgow, that they would allow what is ostensibly a central belief of their faith to be denied in the place that is supposed to be the site of the purest and most vibrant expression of that faith? In response to the outcry, the cathedral’s provost, Fr. Kelvin Holdsworth, wrote:

Those who came heard a confident Christian community proclaim their faith in Christ in no uncertain terms. We say the Nicene Creed at St Mary’s and we believe it. Indeed, I sometimes have to tell people that I say it without my fingers crossed. Our proclamation of the divinity of Christ is at the centre of every Eucharist that takes place every Sunday. And so is the greeting of peace which we offer to one another. Peace be with you. Shalom. Salaam….

Frankly, we think it is a good thing that Muslims are coming to church and hearing us proclaim the Gospel of Christ….

The truth is, people confident in their faith can often learn most from one another. We are confident in our Christian faith and enjoy sharing it.

The most perceptive comment this week came from someone who knows me well. “This is just absurd – St Mary’s doesn’t do syncretism it does hospitality”.

That’s it in a nutshell. We don’t do syncretism, we do hospitality….

“We don’t do syncretism, we do hospitality.” Very well. But Fr. Kelvin Holdsworth fails to explain why “hospitality” required that a Qur’an verse that denied a central tenet of Christianity be read out. Nor did he note that no mosque in Scotland or anywhere else is likely to feature a New Testament reading proclaiming the divinity of Christ: the “hospitality” goes only one way.

“Our proclamation of the divinity of Christ is at the centre of every Eucharist that takes place every Sunday”: apparently Holdsworth’s defense for featuring this Qur’an passage consists of noting that the cathedral often proclaims the divinity of Christ, so one denial of it isn’t bad. That’s like saying “I have met thousands of people in my life and only murdered one of them, so I uphold the sanctity of life.”

But Holdsworth has more important things on his mind: he “cannot believe that moderate churches in the West should follow a policy of appeasement towards those who are Islamophobic.” Appeasement of Islamic supremacists? That’s fine. But “appeasement of those who are Islamophobic”? That’s over the line!

Note also his sly moral equivalence in referring to “moderate churches,” as if there were “extremist” and “moderate” Christians just as there are “extremist” and “moderate” Muslims — a central, albeit wholly fictional, talking point of the contemporary Left.

Lord, what fools these Anglicans be. They have a perfect right to read from the Qur’an denying core aspects of Christianity during Christian worship. And free people have a perfect right to hold them in contempt as dhimmi appeasers giving away their own identity, culture and religion for the sake of “deepening friendships” with people who will never really consider them as friends, for they are forbidden to do so by that same Qur’an (5:51).

The entire incident epitomizes the malady of the Western world. Clearly the religion of those at the Glasgow Anglican cathedral is not Christianity in any form, but Leftist multiculturalism. What they will ultimately find, to their shock and horror, is that their Muslim partners in this multicultural endeavor have no intention of reciprocating their generosity and hospitality, but will ultimately only subjugate them under the hegemony of Islamic law. They’re already halfway there.

Robert Spencer is the director of Jihad Watch and author of the New York Times bestsellers The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) and The Truth About Muhammad. His latest book is The Complete Infidel’s Guide to Iran. Follow him on Twitter here. Like him on Facebook here.

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Constitution101
Constitution101
7 years ago

This religious leader is bastardizing the Holy Scriptures that do not show a foreign God nor a foreign gospel as legitimate. READ Galatians 1:6-9 that says,

“No Other Gospel

6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.”

Suresh
Suresh
7 years ago

Agree ! He is doing what the Leftists Loony Pope is doing to christians http://tinyurl.com/j2lwzej

Its the New Normal when Leftists/Liberals/Muslims takeover a county/Region/country. Its deliberate trojan horse program in action or “vicious snakes” as Trump kept warning people about http://tinyurl.com/gwfxa8s

Fault lies with the Leftists/liberal loons that do not educate the masses on true nature of Islam and the uncontrolled foolish immigration of these fake “refugee” savages.

movingwaters
movingwaters
7 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

The astonishing part of this is that all this deception is taking place at the very time in history when a huge percentage of the deceived have ready access at their fingertips to a wealth of information. Something has happened to block their minds from desiring to seek the truth. Satan knows human nature/psychology very well from 6000 years of twisting minds. The Left is Luciferian by nature. Some on the right are too. There is and endless stream of things needing prayer right now. I believe that short of a miraculous move of the Holy Spirit unblinding eyes, we can see why so many people will end up worshiping the Beast, taking the mark, and having their DNA literally changed so they no longer qualify for salvation.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
7 years ago
Reply to  movingwaters

You can take a horse to water… how many times has some querulous snowflake asked you to explain a reference to an event or person, online ? Google might not exist for them. Why have educational standards dropped so drastically? The children who walk miles to school, deprived of education, thirst for knowledge,– our spoiled brats wallow in their ignorance or simply accept the popular myth without question. Age does not alter them.

movingwaters
movingwaters
7 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Within the last week I heard that the USA is now about 54th in the nations in our education ranking. I have to estimate here, as I was listening while busy, and haven’t confirmed that info yet. But I know that the developed world and much of the developing world has surpassed us for some time. This was done to Americans intentionally by the powers that be because we had once had a good education system that put us ahead. For their NWO plans to succeed, America had to be taken down. The devil was always several steps ahead of most of us. Once you get 2-3 generations of mind wipes, the rest is a piece of cake.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
7 years ago
Reply to  movingwaters

On global school ranking for literacy and numeracy , Asian nations lead, their students lead in our classrooms, too UK is at 20, USA at 28., but 20% of our students ( UK ) leave without acquiring basic skills–that is bad. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/global-school-rankings-interactive-map-shows-standards-of-education-across-the-world-10247405.html

movingwaters
movingwaters
7 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Thanks for the correction. As I said, I had not confirmed that number. But you clarified the situation. And it is bad enough. And it was done intentionally to children by evil people who desire to steal their minds, souls, and future.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
7 years ago
Reply to  movingwaters

There are so many different ranking systems, I only mention one I had read, not really a correction.

Don Wood ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ
Don Wood ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ
7 years ago

Muslims believe Muhammed is a prophet from the 7th Century. They are mistaken because the prophet Amos was told quite clearly that God doesn’t do anything without first telling His prophets to announce it. And God’s standard IS to speak about any changes that were to be made BEFORE they were made. For instance the “New Covenant,” by prophet Jeremiah 31:31-34, compare Hebrews 8:7-13. God also never spoke of a third covenant which would have been necessary if Muhammed was to be His prophet. Read:

Amos 3:7 “Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.”

Seeing that no prophecy about Muhammed was ever announced, except AFTER THE FACT, gives men no excuse to imagine Muhammed was sent from God. Sorry, but you’d have to call God a liar, and we both agree He is not. So, that makes whom the liar???

“Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written:

“So that YOU may be proved right when you speak

and prevail when you judge.” (Ro 3:4)

St. Mary’s Cathedral, the Scottish Episcopal Church’s cathedral in Glasgow, “Islam is NOT like Christianity. Islam is a POLITICAL MOVEMENT. The Bible is not the same as the Qur’an. The Qur’an has 500 verses about politics and ruling about its Sharia Laws and its justice system. You don’t find that in the Bible.”

Mullah Krekar is right, and everyone can see this axiomatically in the world today. No question about it. HOWEVER, this further proves Islam is the enemy of God, because the prophet Daniel stated in the clearest language that during the days of the Roman kings(2000 years past), the God of heaven would establish His own kingdom, and it would NOT be left to another!!! Daniel 2:1-45!!! Compare Matthew 3:1 – 4:17. Daniel prophesied that men’s kingdoms would spiritually become like chaff from a summer threshing floor which the slightest breeze (God’s own Spirit) would blow away. Islam is not interested in God’s Spirit and does not obey the Injil (New Testament) or any of the prophets, Jesus, et. al.), or obey the good news (gospel) to overcome the world, the flesh and the devil and thus has NOT God’s Spirit, Romans 8:9-11. Instead, by speaking against the Prophet of God, Jesus, and His teachings and commands, they have erected a physical prophet Muhammed who for the last nine years of his life did war after the physical, and thus is one of the Anti-Christ’s that NT prophets foretold, and Jihad continues until this day, unlawfully against God’s law (2 These. 2:1-12). John, Peter and Paul said these anti-Christ’s would come. Disobedience of the warning prophet Daniel gave does not cancel out the words of prophet John the Baptist, Jesus and the others, so Islam does NOT obey or submit (John 12:48-50!) to the words of Jesus, the gospel, etc.

So, Muslim judgment is in gross error and means we need not examine any of the so called ‘Holy’ Qur’an’ for determination. Islam’s judges and jihadists stand in great jeopardy, unless they should repent from the heart to be saved! Hebrews 10:31 “It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”

I hope you have not veiled your own eyes and ears so that you could never FIND the Truth.://youtu.be/Vp_1JvRsCYE

aebe
aebe
7 years ago

“The natural man is the enemy of God” (Saint Paul?) In their every action , islamites and progressives proclaim the truth of that .

Patricia Morin Smith
Patricia Morin Smith
7 years ago

God is indeed cleansing his Church before the final days, as prophecied.

Fredo
Fredo
7 years ago

Appeasing those Islamists who deny and dismiss my faith, is not hospitality. It is an affront to my faith, by those whom I have entrusted to be my voice and shepherd, namely the church leaders.

This reading of the quran in a church is an affront, is an attack, and I will not accept what Kelvin Holdsworth, nor any like him, including the pope, has to say any longer.

These despicable acts by the church just serve to turn people away.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Fredo

Only a non thinking fool would support crislam, it is the filth of islam smeared over the trappings of Christianity. Crislam, a disgusting fecal layer of progressive ignorance.

NickRepublic
NickRepublic
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

“Do not become unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?” 2 COR 6:14

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  NickRepublic

True, more gullible and naive Christian clergy should do some serious Bible study. Then have a look at the criminally corrupt insanity of the qur’an.

aebe
aebe
7 years ago
Reply to  Fredo

Sounds like a bloody sassenach’s name , Holdsworth does .

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
7 years ago
Reply to  aebe

Born, Leeds, educated Bearsden Academy, who knows. From this bloody Sassenach.

aebe
aebe
7 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

I would never have thunkit about you ! ( are your folks gypsies , and have you ever been on a milk cartoon ? )

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
7 years ago
Reply to  aebe

And the kelpies never stole me neither !

aebe
aebe
7 years ago
Reply to  Fredo

There are ‘Christian’ sects that have nothing to do with Christianity , and progressives love to congregate at such .

Patrick of Atlantis
Patrick of Atlantis
7 years ago

Dhimmi fool Holdsworth is to Scotland what Syphilis is to the human brain.
He should be removed from society for the good of society.

Mohammed is a false prophet. Islam is a mass psychopathy.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

sunni, shi’ite, episcopalian, all sects of islam, all reprehensible filth.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

I notice you excepted Catholicism…

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

It is not supposed to be islamic, that it has a bunch of muslim sympathizers is regrettable, there are still a few real ones.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

Look at him, Fr. Kelvin Holdsworth, fat priest, bloated with donations of gullible faithful for the feeding of a blasphemer and enabler of the criminally insane cult of islam. Disgraceful, it is fitting that the britishstinan isles are becoming palestine north, it is disgrace they have asked for and earned. May Fr. Kelvin Holdsworth’ prayer mat be a puddle of pig manure.

Crusader21stCentury
Crusader21stCentury
7 years ago

Can anything good come out of sour-faced Nicole Sturgeon’s Scotland? The is no correlation whatsoever with islam and Christianity! Thus Spencer is a sham, a baal worshiper who disguises self like the Father of lies – the devil who is reserved for eternity in hell with his workers !
Have we heard from any of these dog-collard attire persons?! Nah – quite like a lazy mouse! Weak…..

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
7 years ago

Ermm, you might want to check who is the actual villain of this piece.Robert Spenser wrote the article, bringing Fr. Kelvin Holdsworth’s perfidy to our attention. Call Holdsworth all the names you like, but we should say, thank you, nicely ,to Mr. Spenser.

Andrew_M_Swallow
Andrew_M_Swallow
7 years ago

Inviting a Muslim to give a reading at service was an act of hospitality. The woman and her Mullah/Imam responded by insulting your entire congregation. As Jesus said in Matthew 16:23 “Get behind me Satan”.

Defending this insult is not the action of a turn the cheek Christian but a secret Muslim or possibly a devil worshipper. Either a reprimand from the Archbishop is needed or an investigation to see if Fr. Kelvin Holdsworth and his Bishop should be defrocked.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

Oh euuuuch, defrocked overweight old shrivelled clergy. How about they be sent to remote parishes in say sure and iraq, to live amongst those who they share a common belief with.

Andrew_M_Swallow
Andrew_M_Swallow
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Defrocked (fired) clergy do not preach anywhere.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

That was then, now the ones in frocks or even pinafores are bleating everywhere.

Craig
Craig
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Nope, too fat and happy (and protected) where he is at.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Craig

islam will take care of that once he gets not defrocked but deheaded.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Mahou, have you checked him out ? A MTh. yet more political than devout . Local councillor, stood as Liberal candidate in G.E. 2005 , voted 35th most influential LGBT person in UK 2015. Wow ! 35th !. Could this be yet another fling at elusive fame and power? And do his Muslim comrades realise he is gay ? He may yet be deheaded. ( was that not an ancient term for castration?) His apostasy has not gone unnoticed. http://www.psephizo.com/life-ministry/is-jesus-begotten-of-the-father/. Wonder how the parishioners reacted ? Or were they all there for the publicity of the event ?

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Thank you for the research, it does look a lot like this clown is looking for a circus to perform in. Wonder how many of the ummah were awake while the qur’an was being brayed?

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

” a clown looking for a circus…..” great expression.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

This is the basic definition of “democrat”.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Deheaded — that will increase his IQ by 10 points.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Definitely.

Craig
Craig
7 years ago

It is nothing more than appeasement and cowardice. A disease the world is sorely afflicted with.

SRN99
SRN99
7 years ago

Hear this Muslims:
Allah is not great
Allah is not the name of God
Mohammad this filthy paedophile was unfit to be a prophet

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
7 years ago
Reply to  SRN99

Mohammed: not only a false prophet, but also “a wandering star, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever”: Jude 13.

Kathy Rheinfrank
Kathy Rheinfrank
7 years ago
Reply to  SRN99

true true true.. and they are so stupid not to see this .. I would like to use that as a bumper sticker …

BEVERLEY HUGHES
BEVERLEY HUGHES
7 years ago

Put that bumper sticker on your car and they will kill you for blasphemy, that is unfortunately the kind of people we are dealing with backward hate filled lunatics. We need a mass bumper sticker day with hundreds of thousands of us. Hopefully something will change with Le Pen and Wilders soon or it will be civil war in Europe i’m afraid.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
7 years ago

Not only will you be murdered for blasphemy, but our submissive legal system will not indict, on the grounds that you provoked your demise by hate speech and disrespect. “she ‘ad it coming.”

Semur Jengkol
Semur Jengkol
7 years ago
Reply to  SRN99

Muhammad is paedophile ???….but why his wife (Aisyah) became a very strong figure is islamic history ????

Isabella of France (9 November 1389 – 13 September 1409) was Queen consort of England as the second spouse of King Richard II. Her parents were King Charles VI of France and Isabeau of Bavaria. She married the king at the age of seven …….

Early marriage was common during that century …for strengthening inter-clan alliance …etc …

Semur Jengkol
Semur Jengkol
7 years ago
Reply to  Semur Jengkol

If his wife is damaged mentally … she won’t become prominent strong figure in islamic history ..

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Semur Jengkol

Say who? The unfamiliarity with the qur’an is legendary among muslims, few who can read, none who can think.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

If there is evidence to the contrary, it might be interesting to see.

pipo
pipo
7 years ago
Reply to  Semur Jengkol

pislamic history is as reliable as Hitler’s mind. It depends of the day and the mood of the day. And also pislamic history depends on the intellect of the muzzrat scholar, well now we are in stinking waters.

Semur Jengkol
Semur Jengkol
7 years ago
Reply to  Semur Jengkol

King Richard is paedophile ??

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Semur Jengkol

There is no question that mutgonad, police beat upon him was. Focus there vegetable, we are discussing islam.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Imagine living in a country run by tens of millions of Semur Jengkol’s… Ugly thought huh?

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Disgusting, but that is the will of the democrats.

pipo
pipo
7 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Well do not imagine just go to Turkey. There are cheap flight tickets and the service of Turkey Airways is similar to Alitalia. Near a mosque you probably will find a state owned brothel, also handy.

cornhusk
cornhusk
7 years ago
Reply to  Semur Jengkol

Yes, people in the middle ages got betrothed when they were very young, but they waited until they were mature to consummate the marriage. By mature, I don’t mean 9, like the dirty pig Mohammed doing the dirty with his little child bride.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Semur Jengkol

So ? That was then, this is now, mutgonad, police beat upon him, did not have a cellphone, firearms or any other things that exist today. Only islam has remained in the seventh century as a sub human pre stone age cult of ignorance.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago
Reply to  Semur Jengkol

Dear dumb allahtard, even if she was married at seven her husband didn’t consummate the marriage when she was 9 and wasn’t thighing her at 7 or 8 either.
Somewhere there’s a camel’s penis w/your name on it — as allah has revealed.

aebe
aebe
7 years ago
Reply to  Semur Jengkol

Young women die in childbirth – Who (what manner of creature) would want to throw away a life for a tumble in bed ?

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

As it is clearly indicted by the incompetent blasphemous grunts of Fr. Kelvin Holdsworth, the study of scripture, its staments, commands and implications are not part of Anglican school, here is a very basic statement of Christianity:

Galatians 1:6-9English Standard Version (ESV)

No Other Gospel

6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

CONSTANTGUILT
CONSTANTGUILT
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

He is no doubt to busy raping little boys to care. In fact since Islam is the religion of pedophiles that is no doubt his reason for welcoming it. Like all the left.

Wally
Wally
7 years ago

That quote from the Quran says: “It is not for Allah to take a son;”
THIS is TRUE!!! It does NOT DENY the Christian tenet of Faith that Jesus IS the Son of God because Allah is NOT God!!!
Jesus IS the Son of God.

aebe
aebe
7 years ago
Reply to  Wally

But , the islamites themselves said they worship the same (G)od as we . Surely , they wouldn’t lie ?

Wally
Wally
7 years ago
Reply to  aebe

I take it that your statement is tongue in cheek.
At its root Islam is an IDEOLOGY and NOT a religion.
It is as EVIL as NAZISM and COMMUNISM. Western leaders need to understand this and treat it as an ideology which needs to be destroyed.
Osama bin Laden, Al Bagdaddi, the Wahhabist Saudis, and now the Caliph Wannabe Erdogan have ALL shown us their true colors BUT the West continues to be blind to the truth about Islam!!!

spfg
spfg
7 years ago
Reply to  aebe

Ahhh yes..Deception #1. Get them to think you both worship the same god and then slowly they will force you to accept their sharia laws, rules, religious holy day observances, and punishments. Do you really want to go there?

aebe
aebe
7 years ago
Reply to  spfg

Nope

Craig
Craig
7 years ago
Reply to  Wally

allah is the name of a goat muhammad used to rape.

SRN99
SRN99
7 years ago
Reply to  Wally

Strange, Allah cannot have a son, but gives his followers 72 virgins to have sex with. We can be Allah’s God instead.

Lee Hicks
Lee Hicks
7 years ago

False teaching and outright apostasy is being accepted in many formerly Biblically solid denominations, including the Episcopals, Methodists, Lutherans, etc., as well as the ever-in-error Catholics. Many are becoming guilty of promotion of a false and unbiblical message, at odds with the basics of the Word itself. Very unfortunate.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
7 years ago

II Timothy 4:1-4: I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom: Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove,
rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

aebe
aebe
7 years ago

What would you expect of a state religion , other than support of the state ?
There are and have been other ‘Christian’ sects with odd practices , And Catholics spread over Europe by taking on some of the trappings of paganism . Moonday/Sunday/wOdinsday /Freyas day/Thorsday/Saturns day . Every day a holy day , by gum .
But spreading the word of a ‘god’ who created a murderous cult ?
Skintunderhidetrownway < Ancient blessing , yup .

Validate your 2nd Amendment Rights… Carry

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soundclick.com/Globalfirm
7 years ago

Mr. Holdsworth might be a closet Muslim or maybe his survival instinct hints him to learn about Islam where he can find that it commands to murder, crucify, torture & extort him.

The AFDI should make documentaries 1 about Islam’s founder, torturer, sadist, racist slaver tyrant, inventor of slavery of Africans, mass-murderer, crucifier, genital mutilationist, clitodirectomist, child-rapist & pederast who ‘kissed’ little boys’ penises & sucked boys’ lips & tongues, theist psychopath, who burned people alive for not praying, for not being part of his conspiracy & to extort them, who gouged out eyes & cut off body-parts, gays-killer, Jews-killer, atheists-killer & child-beater, kidnapper, decapitator Muhammad
& 1 about Nazi Amin al-Husseini, including that he answered to Hitler’s question what to do with the Jews to burn them.

The last Polish Pope kissed the Koran, he kissed people to sleep with that kiss. Islam’s founder set the Islamic law to kill non-Islamic people in their sleep.

The inside threat are all politicians who protect Islam.
The Muhammadism-conspiracy’s interest now is to protect it’s newborns in Islamic state territory in Syria, Europe & worldwide.

Islamophobia is used as pretext for politicians to not come out as closet Muslims. Islam’s founder commands war to be deceit, the military deception must be upholded: if the deceit aint working it’s a failure.

That governments live in a fantasy-world where Islam’s founder & his deity are in control of the world.

We need to integrate ourselves to Islam & Islamic regions by banning Islam, enacting love & human rights, freeing the imprisoned, the Africans enslaved, girls & women forced to sex-slavery & NOT the other way around.

The Muhammadism-conspirators want to ban fear & concern about the Islam-conspiracy in the media using theism to erase & relativize this fear & branded the fear of Islam Islamophobia, using Christian Jizya-organizations for their Islamic family-building project in welfare-regions.

We are witnessing a global forced mass-conversion to Islam & people manipulated by shallow & complicit media, lost in an identity crisis caused by systematic censorship & persecution flee to Islam for a solution.

We need an Anti Islam-UN.

How to de-Islamize countries should be priority,
not how to Islamize countries.

How can we use democracy for freedom when threatened by Muslims?

Campaigning for Islam is terrorism.
Campaigning against Israel is terrorism.

Values obligate (Anti-Islam, globalism, human rights, ecology, English).
Global Islamic censorship must be stopped.
We have our own global media (Geller-report) & that obligates for a global government.
The Geller-report shall not be a failed case of top mainstream-media without government.

We need to draw consequences from all the crimes since Islam’s start.
& here’s the deal: you get a new prophet: me, of human rights the new atheist religion.

We need to rescue taxes from Islam-politicians.
Who’s down to support me?

Islam is a “religion of peace” by those who peacefully let it happen: media systematically, peacefully hid Amin al-Husseini’s crucial role in the peaceful mass-murder of Jews by the Nazis, nothing in one TV-broadcasted documentary about him, Bush allegedly peacefully flew out Saudi (& Iranian?) officials who were complicit in the New York twin-tower attack, Barack Hussein Obama peacefully didn’t protest the enslavement of Africans in Islamic countries & the invention & justification of it by Islam’s founder, peacefully gave a big donation to Iran & peacefully prepares it to be a nuclear power, he peacefully armed Islamistisis who peacefully proclaimed they want to reinstate slavery of Africans in America, while Islamistisis mass-murder & crucify, endangering Israel, peacefully enacting resolutions against Israel, then peacefully lied about it & peacefully told us that Islamic Boko Haram mass-murdering 100?’s of 1000’s of Africans would have “legitimate concerns”, protecting them militarily strategically peacefully & peacefully established an Islamic government in Nigeria, peacefully gave a new country: new north-Sudan to Islamic mass-murderer Omar al-Bashir, peacefully financed mosques/Islam worldwide, peacefully orchestrated Islamic imperialist invasion into the welfare-systems of the world making one think that welfare wasn’t established for social security but to peacefully enable Jizya-extortion, peacefully declared death-fatwa-like that the ‘future’ would belong to those who don’t condemn Islam’s founder, peacefully hid the crimes & sadist commands of Islam & Islam’s founder who peacefully mass-murdered Jews, atheists & others, peacefully killed sleeping people, crucified, lynched, pillaged & raped, peacefully commanding it as Islamic law, he peacefully incarcerated innocent U.S.-soldiers & peacefully released Islamic terrorists & banned information from social-media & media, while peacefully facebook-accounts of freethinkers got banned, then he peacefully lied about all this without any prosecution by the white-Wash house.

Islam is a “religion of peace” by those who peacefully let it happen: cause if we don’t fight against Islam, Islam enacts itself.
Islam, translates “submission”.We have to avoid to fall into the trap of submission into Islam.
We have to enact the protection of human rights worldwide to prevent Islam.
Ban Islam. Save lives.

Bush who allegedly let Saudi (& Iranian?) officials fly out who were complicit in the New York twin-tower attack, promoted Islam would be the “religion of peace”.
Religion is piece of the puzzle of Islam, of which the Shoah-holocaust, enslavement of Africans, mass-murders & tyrannies worldwide are part of.

People are under Islamic mind-control.
Governments systematically erode our human rights, the basis of our empire by promoting Islam as benign.

Amin al-Husseini swayed Hitler from expulsion to mass-murder of eventually 6.000.000 Jews.
Islam’s founder mass-murdered & mass-murdering Jews is part of the Islam-guide to Sharia.

It was one of the biggest deception to hide Islam, Amin Al-Husseini as motivation for Hitler & Naziism, together with the deception that there would be a God & that Islam would be peaceful & it reminds me of the saying, that says the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was that he didn’t exist.
Is it a coincidence that devil & devio, devotion are similar words?
Only devotion to Islam might had been the motivation for that systematic deception.
Amin al-Husseini must be exposed on TV-media.

Profoundness & media matters. 

It must stop that our human rights & sense for justice are systematically eroded by Islam.

Free African slaves in Saudi Arabia NOW.

Mauritania: occupied land. Free the African slaves!

Muslims don’t want an open, global society with English, they want Sharia & Arabic.

Bush, Barack Hussein Obama & many other politicians declared Islam the religion of peace on the backs of countless innocent people murdered & oppressed by Islam since Islam’s beginning.

Stop the indoctrination. Ban Islam.

Islam was main-motivator for Hitler.

Today Islamic immigration is used by the German-government to establish institutionalized hatred against Jews, to establish Islam.

We need to avoid falling into the trap of submission to Islam.

People want Islam because media, academia, Wikipedia hide Islam’s crimes & glorify it, instead of condemning it.

It was a big deception to hide Islam as motivation for Hitler & Naziism.

What did the Jews do? They didn’t crucify like Muslims, they didn’t harass like Muslims, they didn’t enslave Africans like Muslims, they didn’t extort the Islamic Jizya-tax.

The legal status of Islam is based on the fake news that Islam’s founder was benevolent & never harmed a person, while the truth is he was a sadist & mass-murderer & inventor of enslavement of Africans.

There are a lot of people who want Islam. There are not a lot people who don’t want Islam. Why. Because they don’t know about Islam.

Islamic terrorists & tyrants have a lot in common with Islam’s founder who they emulate.

Democracy has been mixed with a vicious censorship making Islam’s criminal news & history a blind spot, crippling global justice which has led to policies that enact Islam & obstruct justice.

Our enemies say condemning Islam would attack religious freedom like there would be the administrative capability to ban Islam.
There is no capability to ban Islam because of media that falsify about Islam & hide Islam’s crimes in news & historically.

They lie they change their policies but that’s just to buy time.

Only when we will be able to speak the truth about Islam will we be able to develop as humanity.

No to institutionalized hate-speech. Ban Islam. Save lives.

Facebook is not legal because it’s loyalties are rooted in Saudi Arabia.

Interior ministries, really closet Islamic ministries with their Islamic propaganda have created an Islamic anonymity, a safe-space to indoctrinate children into the dangerous, criminal, unethical Islam-cult using terms like rule of law, freedom of religion & similar.

While I talk about saving lives & protecting human rights worldwide our enemies in government talk about a rule of law detached from reality & based in the belief that Islam is just & Saudi Arabia’s tyranny a legitimate government entity to which weapons can be sold & of which oil can be bought from.

The world needs a strong leader, not a democratically elected, closet Muslim or nationalist.

Join me in making a global party to save the world from Islam.

Africans enslaved, children raped, atheists killed: Islamic tyrannies. Failed to being identified as problem by governments. Ban Islam. Save lives.

Instead of filling an emptiness with hate against Israel & letting in Muslims into their country, people need to fill their emptiness with love for human rights against Islam & ban Islam in Saudi Arabia & free the African slaves, imprisoned atheists & girls there & worldwide.

The Islam-Nazis burned books, now ban facebooks & the death-toll climbs.

The TV-media’s scrubbing, hiding that terror attacks are Islam is political Islam.

Fake, Islamic government-media are a poisonous tree with it’s media censored to a point where the weaponized Muhammadism-conspiracy demands the attention of being the only shiny fruit in the garden.

The reason why Islamic attacks occur is because the media doesn’t manage to persuade Muhammadists to apostate from Islam.
Join Globalfirm, Human rights the new atheist religion. 

The high standard of information of the Geller-report is the true mainstream-media & must be the base for a legitimate government.

Islam’s founder was an unethical terrorist & thus all Muhammadists are terrorists as commanded by the Islam-guide.

Muslims have a momentum of war, incited through prayer, the Islam-guide & censorship & this momentum is also present in seemingly non-Muslim governments. 

Muhammadist conspirators need psychiatric help:
1 being the general outlawing of Islam &
de-Islamization centers until upright disgust for Islam.

If you can’t see that Islam is an unethical, imperialist conspiracy stay out of my government. That’s an order.

Human rights is not paragraphs but a religion.

Human rights is not paragraphs that can be pulled like the general right to smoke or freedom for some bogus religion, but a religion.

Freedom of religion must be subjugated to true religion: to human rights the new atheist religion.

We should study how countries got Islamized to prevent Islam.

The Arabic word for African is SLAVE, (Abeed) & enslavement of Africans is happening in Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, Kuwait, Lebanon, Bahrain, Somalia, elsewhere.

Islamic tyrannies, North Africa are occupied land: Africans are enslaved in Mauritania (20% or more), North Sudan, Lybia, Algeria.

Is the ‘black lives matter’ a mind-control initiative to keep Afro’ mericans unknowing about slavery of Africans in Saudi Arabia, Mauritania & elsewhere & about it’s invention in the Islam-guide, about the intention of Islamic State group to revive enslavement of Africans in the US & about the systematic mass-murder of non-Muslims in Nigeria by Islamic terrorists Barack Hussein Obama promotes as having “legitimate concerns”?

# Arrest Barack Hussein Obama.

Why are GITMO-inmates given the Islam-guide?

I’ve read in 2009 Islamic State leader Al-Baghdadi was released from from GITMO, which might be not true or true.

But it doesn’t matter because the true, most powerful Islamic State leader is & remains Barack Hussein Obama as he allegedly arms Islamic State & is complicit in Islam in it’s full extent.

He giving superficial interviews to the Rolling stone distracts from the fact that his policies are dedicated to systematic Muhammadism-conspiracy imperialism.

The pro-Islamic government is a bomb we have to dismantle.

We got are own global media (The Geller-report). We should have our own global government.

They try to divide us with misinformation.

We are pushed into a corner by governments to either support Islam or vanish.

Instead of using our force to accommodate Islamic imperialism into countries systematically deceived about Islamic imperialism, tyranny & history we should use our force to free African slaves in north-Africa & the Muslim middle east & free prisinors from Sharia-prisons & free citizens from Sharia Islamic tyranny.

We need a globalism that is conscious & condemning about Islam.

Armenians, Assyrians…have been cast out to die by the Islamic Ottoman empire, today people are lost in a labyrinth of misinformation & anti terror security-work.

People are indifferent to & uncondemning about Islam because they haven’t developed ethics (human rights & ecology). 

A justice-system that doesn’t condemn Islam & acts as if Islam would be just, is unjust & spreads injustice.

Freedom is fragile & suppressed today & marked for destruction by Islam.

Defending ourselves from Islam is important like body-hygiene.

They try to divide us. It’s important we, all non-Muslims no-matter with what heritage, stand united against Islam, against the harmless-making of the Islam-guide & against the obfuscation about Islam-tyrannies, history, crimes & imperialism.

Giving asylum to people while not allowing people to talk about Islamic tyrannies & the cause for Islamic tyranny is not asylum but colonialism.

If they can’t protect their minds from Islam they also can’t protect their state from Islam.

This Islam-migration is an insult on the global culture of human rights & ecology.

It’s ineffective to go fight against Muhammadist-conspirators if one is a Muhammadism-conspirator oneself.
Condemn the Islam in the media first & give people the chance to condemn it too. Then there might be no need to kill people as they condemn Islam & instead love human rights the new atheism/religion.

While the government didn’t condemn Islam it has become infiltrated by the Muhammadism-conspiracy even to the point where Barack Hussein Obama allegedly armed Islamic State in Syria, Lybia, releases Islamic terrorists (Islamic state leader Al-Baghdadi in 2009?), supports Muslim Brotherhood terrorist-group in Egypt, Hamas, Boko Haram & Al-Shabab supporting Omar Al-Bashir in new north-Sudan & Boko Haram, promoted Boko Haram as having “legitimate concerns” & tolerating enslavement of Africans in Islamic tyrannies, financing Iran & trying to make it a nuclear power & financing Islam.
The US-government/army should be put on trial for arming Islamic State’s caliphate, crufixion & burning-campaign & all that.

Why did the U.S. army arm & observe Islamic State while they pillage, rape & crucify?

Why weren’t crucified people relieved from their suffering, even if just with drones?

Turkey I’ve read arms Islamic State with advanced weapons.

People have been indoctrinated to not be in control through the idea that a deity is in control.

Governing, protecting human rights is not a spectator-thing.

Weighing the Geller-report headlines & information against what common TV-channels inform shows that common TV-channels & media are a dangerous hate-group.

The problem is non-globalism which amplifies Islam. Political parties that say they will protect us from Islam say Muslim & non-Muslim foreigners are equal.

The Muhammadism-conspirators infiltrated the security institutions (voteable parties, CIA, FBI, Army & media, academia) because they fear a global government.

We need to look how we can balance security & openness & not just in a national but global way.

Banning Islam is reasonable & gives structure to security-laws just like a tree bears fruits.

Banning Islam is not persecution, it’s prosecution & in the interest of humanity.

In Islam the sadist Muhammadism-conspiracy guide is the static law.

Police & media is used as 1-sided interface of the government to program the people instead of as 2-sided interface to develop a law dedicated to the protection of human rights & ecology together.

The TV-media & media in general doesn’t inform people about these things because education other than Islam is forbidden in the Muhammadism-conspiracy & facts educate the ethical ability, the judgement of people.

Trump should pick me for secretary of defense instead of James Mattis who as I’ve read strategically supports Hamas.

People seem to identify with Muslims & not non-Muslims as Muslims have so much drama caused by Islam-indoctrination.

Let’s make a global culture without Islam.

We need a concept:
Ban Islam,
Get the Muhammadism-conspirators out,
Give the space non-Muslim global citizens,
& make English globally optional official language.

The believe in a deity gives people a false sense of security. 

This is an ideological problem not a nationalist or racist problem.

Instead of a deceptive differentiation between Islam & soft-Islam there must be made a differentiation between Muhammadist immigrant & non-Muhammadist immigrant.

Ban Islam, save lives worldwide & keep the Muhammadism-conspiracy OUT where ever possible. 

The Islamic deity is referred to as the greatest of all deceivers in the Muhammadism-conspiracy-guide being the greatest of all deceptions in reality.

Sadist..Muhammad’s Muhammadism-conspiracy-guide, commands war to be deceit & describes his unproven deity, a deity which must be assumed is a deception, as best of all deceivers.

The media, academia, government is run by the OIC (Organization of Islamic cooperation).

It must be assumed that the systematic Muhammadism-conspiracy imperialism invasion is happening to increase the indoctrination inside nations to kill & oppress anti-Muhammadism-conspiracy politicians. 

Systematic Muhammadism-Conspiracy Mass-Murder, Deception & Imperialism are problems we as humanity are facing.

It must be assumed that the goal of the systematic hiding of Islam’s past, present probable future developments is to establish a global Islam-tyranny.

A government that systematically fails to inform people on relevant past & present human rights subjects & probable future-developments suggests that the government is doing the right thing & incites that people that talk about relevant human rights issues are illegitimate liars.

There are those that claim to fight against Nazis but fight for the Nazis:
History is being scrubbed from Islamist Hitler’s partnership with Muhammadism-conspiracy Ottoman empire general, Grandmufti of Jerusalem Amin al-Husseini who led the Nazis & Nazi-Muhammadist troops, his nephew Arafat called him the great leader. 
Most Nazis were Muslims.

The US, EU, UN hid General of the Assyrians-, Greek orthodox Christians-, Armenians- & other non-Muslims murdering Ottoman empire, Jews-hater Grandmufti of Jerusalem who murdered with Islamist Hitler in Europe, promoted the Nazis & led Muhammadism-conspiracy Nazi troops from history, it’s not even in memorials.

There are things that must be brought to light & condemned so society can function.
A necessary cleansing-process.

Barack Hussein Obama through his fake-news media-outlets told us that there are many Muslims living peacefully,
what he didn’t say is that this is happening on countless suffering people, African slaves, raped enslaved girls, people tortured, killed. 

The media’s lies & scrubbing should alarm us as it is the best indicator for the government’s policies.

Taking a glimpse of the truth by stepping into the Geller-report shows, the governments are not legitimate.

Politicians in non-Muslim countries think they can plant Islamic citizens inside their countries, while they can’t even manage to free African slaves in Islamic countries, girls from forced relationships or atheists & other non-Muslims imprisoned in Islamic tyrannies, while they can’t even speak about or learn the truth about sadist…Muhammad in their own countries.

We’re being sold to Islam by Muhammadism-conspirators that act as politicians, by politicians who are morally bankrupt & owe us.
They owe us the truth because they deceive us & they owe us respect, money & repentance for their criminal activity & complicity which has led & leads to death & suffering.

Instead of unifying society against the Islam-conspiracy, west-European anti-Islam parties create chaos by retreating from society into nationalism, calling it resistance.

We can have a global culture.
But it’s a fail to assume that a global culture has to be superficial & uncondemning about the Islam-Muhammadism-conspiracy & that prosperity can be just achieved if we work instead of imperialistically for human rights globally.

We have to make clear that governance is no place for Nazis, violent nationalists or Muhammadists.

We have an agenda. We want the non-Muhammadist conspirator prisinors freed, enslaved Africans freed, little girls forced to sex-slavery freed, Islam banned, Korans confiscated.

Enough of the politicians who insult & deceive us, arm Islam & plant it into our systems.

We have to make prosecutions & defend our honor & human rights in the long-term.

We are divided & made ineffective because of internationalism instead of globalism, because of regional languages instead of English.

Muslims know Islam is not ethical, that’s why it’s only right to them to ban Islam.

People with a mind-mix of no love & consequently uncondemning attitude towards Islam have made us be open to a culture that is open to Islam.

We have been lulled into culture of superficiality, products, bad music, nationalism, admiration for Islam, for Muhammad.

The pathological tolerance for Islam has become a collective dangerous mind-control movement we know from Muhammadism-conspiracy imperialism regions & the Nazi-Muhammadism-conspiracy of Hitler & Amin al-Husseini that has to be be stopped NOW.

Barack Hussein Obama blocked an Israeli arms helicopter-deal to Nigeria to fight Boko haram before the Muhammadist president.

Furthermore I’ve read that U.S.policies equip & arm Islamic State group in Syria for their crucifixion, terror, lynch & rape-campaign by the hands of Turkey & U.S. & E.U.-armed Saudi Arabia & the U.S.-army.

We got armed drones-surveillance & the base of Israel, so I can’t understand why crimes like crucifixions & beheadings are happening.

“Harass & kill them until Islamic law is the only governance”, says Koran 8:39.

No tolerance for Islam in society, no African slaves enslaved…

Did you know: There’s slavery today of Africans in Saudi Arabia, Mauritania(20%+), new north Sudan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Yemen, Oman, Algeria, Lebanon, Qatar (?), Pakistan, UAE, Niger, Libya, Nigeria, Chad, Mali, Somalia & elsewhere inspired by torturer, sadist, racist slaver tyrant, inventor of slavery of Africans, mass-murderer, crucifier, genital mutilationist, clitodirectomist, child-rapist & pederast who ‘kissed’ little boys’ penises & sucked boys’ lips & tongues, theist psychopath, who burned people alive for not praying, for not being part of his conspiracy & to extort them, who gouged out eyes & cut off body-parts, gays-killer, Jews-killer, atheists-killer & child-beater, decapitator, kidnapper Muhammad who owned Africans as slaves & said that his deity turned Africans black, so their descendants would be slaves to Arabs & Turks (Abeed means African & slave in Arabic,) (Read more about sadist, racist slaver Muhammad at WikiIslam). & IslamicState stated they want to revive enslavement of Africans in America as I’ve read here.
Islam is intolerable. The Koran says: “Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies” (22:19).
Anti-African racists & Muhammadism Out of Africa! 
Ban Islam, the Muhammadism-conspiracy & democracy & save lives & profound human rights globally.
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BettyandCarl Seiley
BettyandCarl Seiley
7 years ago

Those who call themselves ‘Christians’ and deny that salvation comes only through the shed Blood of Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God, are not Christian. I pray that they will see the fallacy of their false belief and come to know Jesus Christ as their only Savior and Lord.

Craig
Craig
7 years ago

It has been my experience that some in the “clergy” were born cowards, hiding behind the Bible for their lack of guts and action. Remember, I said some , not all.
In this particular incident, others that we have seen and “il Papa”, we see the cowardice of appeasement front and center.

Yonderthehill
Yonderthehill
7 years ago

Christians who allow Muslims to recite heretical/satanic verses in a Christian church are not Christians, but enemies of the Christian doctrine and faith.

Helen Tunkel
Helen Tunkel
7 years ago

If parishioners are unhappy – they should boycott this Cathedrall all together !!! Don’t be a ships !!! Stand by your believes and for your right to believe in your true Faith of God , Jesus Christ !!!

ICH5000
ICH5000
7 years ago

foolish man. The collar does not make him smart.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
7 years ago
Reply to  ICH5000

But it looks good on a cv and helps climbing the Ladder.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago
Reply to  ICH5000

Nor does it make him holy.

ICH5000
ICH5000
7 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

agreed

Tm.
Tm.
7 years ago

What does Rome say about it? Rome, what a laugh, or perhaps a cry. I heard tell the Bible warns against false prophets. This person does not represent Christians. ‘Get thee behind me.’
What has happened to the lands where nobles once tread, that now have fallen so mightily? Where strength and courage flourished. Deceivers. Traitors.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago
Reply to  Tm.

Rome was hardly a holy city to Yeshua or his disciples — I’m sure they thought quite the opposite.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
7 years ago

“And immediately the rooster crowed.” John 18:15-27 Luke 22:59-62 Mark 14: 69-70. Glasgow’s revered Provost should recognise betrayal.

Dan Knight
Dan Knight
7 years ago

Having dhimmi class status shoved on you by racists who justify their actions with Big Lies is one thing …

Inviting Supremacists in to trash you is another.

Fr. Kelvin Holdsworth has taken Stockholm Syndrome to a whole new level: Accomplice and collaborator.

RayG1
RayG1
7 years ago

Proverbs 30:5&6 “Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.” Galatians 1:8 “But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.” The Quran/Koran is not the Christian word of God. Allah is not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The concept of Allah as a god started in the eighth century by The Muslim prophet Mohammed. The Quran was written during the following ninth century. The body of “Sharia law” not contained in the Quran has been developed out of the fertile minds of the followers of Islam since the Quran was written. To read the tenets of Islam in a Christian church is blasphemy, pure and simple. We see in these scriptures that the people who allowed this to happen are “liars” and are “accursed”!

thushjz
thushjz
7 years ago

Apostates it’s that simple…

Louise M.
Louise M.
7 years ago

Very interesting criticisms of Rev Holdsworth by lucid religious leaders in U.K.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4120510/CofE-clergyman-bombarded-hate-messages-allowing-passage-Koran-denying-Jesus-God-s-son-read-cathedral.html

His actions, competence and position are questionned. Feel-good reading !

brian crawford
brian crawford
7 years ago

IDIOT !!!!!!!

dangerousfreedom
dangerousfreedom
7 years ago

Watch that old body fold. That is what happens, always. It will turn into a bunch of old ladies feeding people here and there, and then just disappear – maybe they’ll give some organ concerts and talk themselves up that they are “doing good works”.

Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the sustenance of the church, and if denied, the local body will wither. Someplace else it will grow, and it may not be so physically pretty – it may even just be a local storefront – but that’s where the Power will reside – that’s where the people will come and do God’s work – and the old building will slowly die.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

For the sake argument, lets say that the person reading from the qur’an was looking for a passage that mentioned the Biblical persons involved in the event, reading it based on not fully realizing the conflict. When the matter came to public attention, an apology immediately issued, the whole thing would have been at worst a misunderstanding, essentially a non evert. But, with the allegedly Christian clergy ignorantly taking a belligerent stand on proselytizing islam from the pulpit, it is now good reason for members of that parish to find a more suitable Christian congregation to participate in.

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