Italy: Muslims Demand POLYGAMY In Response To Same Sex Unions

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Polygamy: It’s in the Quran (4:3). And so as far as Muslims are concerned, it must be right. The fact that it degrades and commodifies women is not important. Whenever Islamic law and Western law conflict, Western law must give way. And so it is in Italy with this initiative.

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“Muslims demand Polygamy In Response To Same Sex Unions”, by Virginia Hale, Breitbart, August 9, 2016:

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Following the introduction of civil partnerships, Muslim representatives in Italy are now demanding the legalisation of polygamy.

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Responding to a new law allowing same sex couples to enter civil unions, Hamza Piccardo argued that if gay relationships, which Muslims disagree with, are a civil right then Italians must accept polygamy as a civil right too.

The founder of the Union of Islamic Communities and Organisations (UCOII) in Italy took to Facebook to claim polygamy is a “civil right” and that Italy would benefit from the large number of Muslim births it would promote.

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The UCOII president wrote: “When it comes to civil rights here, then polygamy is a civil right. Muslims do not agree with homosexual partnerships, and yet they have to accept a system that allows it. There is no reason why Italy should not accept polygamous marriages of consenting persons.”

The call for polygamy, from Italy’s largest Muslim umbrella group, was met with outrage by a number of politicians.

Debora Serracchiani, deputy chairman of the ruling Democratic Party (PD) said: “Centuries of fighting for women’s rights can not simply be brushed aside.”

“Polygamy has nothing to do with civil rights,” she added.

Paolo Grimoldi, an MEP for the anti mass migration Northern League, declared: “This is the moderate Islam, with which the Italian government intends to keep the dialogue open.”

Reflecting on the debate his Facebook post unleashed, Mr. Piccardo said: “A simple consideration of legal philosophy has sparked an uproar so grotesque as to be even funny.”

Doubling down on his earlier plea, the head of the Muslim Brotherhood-linked bodyinsisted polygamy is a civil right and a matter of “equality of citizens before the law”.

The former European Muslim Network spokesman also suggested Italy needs foreign labour and that polygamy would boost the nation’s economy.

Mr. Piccardo commented: “Do not underestimate the demographic action of polygamy. It would rebalance population decline and the consequent need for foreign labour”….

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Growl
Growl
7 years ago

A ploy to outnumber the natives fast.No need to say-Deny.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago
Reply to  Growl

Good call. Daniel Greenfield once wrote a piece on population replacement — in which left wing political parties in the EU are importing muslums as a new voter base and financing their new voter base on the taxpaying citizens of the old voter base.

Growl
Growl
7 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Thanks,Izlamis Tyranny for a succinct reply.I was a bit worried about my last sentence being misunderstood.It was poorly expressed by me there.

tangent
tangent
7 years ago
Reply to  Growl

Morality dies if it is not fed by spiritual
food. It doesn’t have a life of its own. Godlessnes eventually leads to a loveless world adrift with no moral compass. Gay marriage which too often accepts extra partners. Is actually poligamy.

jeremy steering
jeremy steering
7 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Excellent answer. Here is an excerpt from another commentator saying exactly that. This is where the danger really lies for the West.

“Muslims in France — and across Europe as a whole — tend to support
the Socialists for a variety of demographic, socio-economic and
ideological reasons. Most Muslims in Europe live in lower-income households and experience higher levels of unemployment. As a result, Socialists and Muslims are locked into a politically advantageous power-dependence relationship, between the givers of social welfare benefits and the givers of votes. Not surprisingly, Socialists favor increased Muslim immigration, which in turn produces more voters for Socialist parties.”

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3064/muslim-voters-europe

overboosted
overboosted
7 years ago

Well, since the definition of marriage is open to interpretation, the democrats won’t have a problem making polygamy legal and recognized in all 50 states – right?

Growl
Growl
7 years ago

We all know what to say to this expansionist demand.Either deny with a legislation or tell them to go back if polygamy is ever practiced.Their demands will keep coming if they are appeased now.That’s what I meant in my earlier reply.

Michael Zucker
Michael Zucker
7 years ago

Another misrepresentation of the situation with a headline designed to distort the truth. One extreme muslim has put this suggestion on his facebook page and now Geller is stating that Western laws will be changed to allow polygamy and appease muslims. The vast majority of muslims do not practice polygamy and the Italian government would never dream of passing laws to allow it.

safecrac1
safecrac1
7 years ago
Reply to  Michael Zucker

And in America the gays would never go for Marriage, they just want civil unions. You sir, are a moron.

Michael Zucker
Michael Zucker
7 years ago
Reply to  safecrac1

What is your point about marriage and civil unions? Gays should have the right to marry or have a civil union. Why are you so rude? I am just pointing out that Italy has no intention whatsoever of changing marriage laws to accommodate muslims.

safecrac1
safecrac1
7 years ago
Reply to  Michael Zucker

It is impossible for gays to marry, God created marriage between a man and a women. Of course to gays and atheists that wont matter. Thats why secular governments bow to their demands. To them there is no God, only government. What about pedefiles? What about incest? Just exactly where do you draw the line. If someone loves someone, you CAN’T discriminate ! Right? Again, where do you draw the line??
You need to think critically!

Michael Zucker
Michael Zucker
7 years ago
Reply to  safecrac1

My post was regarding polygamy not being legalized. Why are you suddenly introducing a discussion about gay marriage? You seem to have gone off on a tangent. No idea why you think I am a moron.

safecrac1
safecrac1
7 years ago
Reply to  Michael Zucker

Because you don’t realize they are all related. Secular government pushing society further and further away from morality. If there is no morality, (that comes from God) then government is free to control and decide what is right and what is acceptable and what is not. So what I am saying, if you depend on secular government to make the right and moral decision, which by your statement you are, you sir are a moron. But if you think critically about this and investigate what I am saying, there is hope for you.
Muslims use secular governments discrimination laws to push their agenda which the ultimate goal is Sharia law.

safecrac1
safecrac1
7 years ago
Reply to  safecrac1

Addition: America is in societal upheaval and it is because of one thing, leftist secular progressive government.

Michael Zucker
Michael Zucker
7 years ago
Reply to  safecrac1

You obviously think anybody who disagrees with you is a moron. I do not agree with polygamy and I assume you do not either. Laws in democracies hopefully reflect morality. Italy is a catholic country. All I was stating was that Italy is not going to change its laws to accommodate muslims. I have no idea how that has resulted in you making completely distorted assumptions about me or insulting me. I do however believe that an atheist can be moral. Too much evil has been carried out in the name of religion over thousands of years.

joker
joker
7 years ago
Reply to  Michael Zucker

That is for sure Italy is not going to chance the law on this subject and you are right atheist can be moral, too. By the by, one does not need the words of God to be moral.

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disqus_KH0F5xMG8U
7 years ago
Reply to  joker

Morality came/comes from God! Otherwise we’d have brutality, savagery & anarchy.

safecrac1
safecrac1
7 years ago
Reply to  Michael Zucker

No thats not true. I was stating that Muslims will push polygamy and use discrimination laws to try to accomplish that among other of their ideas. And that secular progressive governments like here in America are ripe for manipulation by them. Gays paved the way for Muslims to also leverage the system by use of anti descrimination laws.
And I too believe an atheist can be moral. But a secular progressive (atheist) government cannot.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Michael Zucker

Shall I give you a hint?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago
Reply to  Michael Zucker

Your point is moot Ahmed AL Arsehole — because no one muslum is being arrested for practicing polygamy anywhere.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago
Reply to  Michael Zucker

Dear Ahmed Al Taqiyya. It doesn’t matter whether or not polygamy is legalised or not if the muslums are already openly practicing it.
Please take your holey quranus and stuff it up your bunghole — dry.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

What difference does it make? One wife or several? No one is taking marriage seriously these days, other than a few people who have morals, principles and values. The law pertaining to marriage should be is that a man or woman, can only claim one spouse for tax or welfare purposes. The only reason muslims want polygamy, is to increase their welfare payments.

ninetyninepct
ninetyninepct
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

In Canada these massive families with one wife, two or three “sisters” and ten spawn have hit an endless and bottomless revenue stream with Trudeau’s cash for kids program. Over $400 / month for each kid added to massive welfare payments and rent subsidies means nobody in the family needs to work. Trudeau gets the votes he is buying with money scammed from real taxpayers.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  ninetyninepct

Sooner or later, even liberals realize they cannot afford to borrow any more money, after they have been in power for a while, they can end up like they did a few years ago when they were reduces to 37 seats in the house of commons. It will happen again, hopefully, next election.

Logic PrObe
Logic PrObe
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

It’s big business here in Australia!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvj1INxqd_c

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Logic PrObe

The stupidity of multicultural socialist do gooders and their spending of other people money will have to stop. They have spent al the ready cash, now they are borrowing. For what? More welfare parasites to continue living off the tax payer.

Logic PrObe
Logic PrObe
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

They’ve been teaching that multicultural crap in schools here since 1973.
You’re a bigoted, racist redneck if you dare to resist!

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago
Reply to  Logic PrObe

AUS is going down the same islamic toilet bowl as the rest of western civilisation. Hopefully the peeps of New Zealand will be smart enough to note what’s going on in AUS before it’s too late.
Someone should ventilate this muslum’s cranium.

Duchess of Pork
Duchess of Pork
7 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Sadly we Kiwi peeps are no smarter than the rest of the western countries whose peoples have largely descended from the liberal, tolerant Brits. Our first Syrians arrived six months ago to warm and profuse welcome ceremonies. Today there are rumours about local schoolchildren being bullied and harassed. Sigh.

Logic PrObe
Logic PrObe
7 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

NZ is the back door into Australia.
They take them in…………..they have to wait only 2 years then they’re over here!

Elisabeth
Elisabeth
7 years ago
Reply to  Logic PrObe

..He is definitely ashamed of his sexual addiction and inability to support his harem properly. He has to steal from others in order to live in this manner. He really ought to be back in his homeland country where this kind of lifestyle is common place, except I imagine they don’t offer welfare handouts like he is getting in Australia.

Logic PrObe
Logic PrObe
7 years ago
Reply to  Elisabeth

It’s no wonder that they will do anything to get here.
Look how this scum has ruined their own countries!

jeremy steering
jeremy steering
7 years ago
Reply to  Logic PrObe

From North America through Europe to Australia it is the same story: Muslim parasites leeching off welfare systems originally designed for their own citizens. Our forefathers must be turning in their graves. They could never have imagined when they set these systems up that one day they would be used and abused by Third World savages. But what would shock and anger them more is that generations to come allowed it to happen instead of protecting their country and culture.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Hold on now Mahou! Did you not start this post with a Hillary-ism? But don’t forget the “at this point”.

Anyway no one does take marriage seriously – right on. But – Jesus took it seriously: Matthew 19:3-9.

Morals and values mean everything, without which society disintegrates into chaos. What Hillary wants.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Mark Steiner

All I look at is the few statistics available. Half of marriages fail. There is a lot of damage when that happens. It would less destructive if people simply agreed to split up, settles whatever assets and liabilities they had and parted on neutral terms. If it was harder to get married and there were real advantages to doing so, it would help.

James51213
James51213
7 years ago
Reply to  Mark Steiner

You just described America to a Tee. Now we have to see how much lower our society can sink.

Steve
Steve
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Yes. It would be a shame if this were applied eventually to the west without some changes. Imagine if a guy had to buy rings for every wife. It could get pretty expensive.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Steve

That is only the beginning, if welfare was not an option, the polygamist would be too tired after a days work to molest any of them.

D. M. Mitchell
D. M. Mitchell
7 years ago

I don’t have a problem with polygamy, but there should also be polyandry, and group marriages, too. Just so long as all the people involved are old enough and mentally competent enough to make a knowing and willing decision. Monogamy is monotony, like having the same meal for dinner every night for the rest of your life. After awhile you find you’re not so hungry. Monogamy leads to cheating and divorce (about 50% in the U.S.). Humans evolved to be multi-partner sexual beings. But as to Islam and polygamy–the four wives thing–how many of those wives go willingly into those marriages?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago
Reply to  D. M. Mitchell

I’ll tell ya what, you like polygamy so much, you support the lazy muslum apes and their harem on your dime sunshein.

Blankety-Blank
Blankety-Blank
7 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

You’re confounding issues. Marriage laws and welfare laws are quite separate issues. But when you’re motivated by hate, logic doesn’t fit your reasoning.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago
Reply to  Blankety-Blank

Go blow a camel Ahmed — back in whatever sh!ttystan you crawled out of.

Blankety-Blank
Blankety-Blank
7 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Your compelling reasoning and persuasive articulation of that insightful analysis are just further evidence that the human species is unlikely to survive this century. Stephen Hawking is right, and people like you continue to amplify momentum to the fulfillment of his fear.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Blankety-Blank

When you are a sucker for everything, you try and logically rationalize it.

Blankety-Blank
Blankety-Blank
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

You are certainly right. I’m a sucker to logic, to efforts to make sense of a world rendered insensitive and pretty senseless by a bunch of people to whom logic is an epithet. Cultural preconceptions seem completely normal to the participants of that culture, yet can produce revulsion in people who grew up with a different set of values. Just because I don’t see a great deal of value in executing infidels doesn’t mean that I can’t understand the cultural origins of that craziness. And by understanding that, I can hope over time to sway the believers into seeing that their way is backward and inhumane. After all, we in the West stopped burning witches and hanging apostates. A few generations ago. We aren’t all that far ahead of the crazy Mohammedans in chronological terms. Progress is slow. But it won’t occur at all if all you can do is call other people names and try to kill them whenever possible. Unless, of course, you kill them all. In which case, what does that make you?

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Blankety-Blank

Slowly, more people are becoming increasingly aware that islam wants to dominate, dictate and control every individuals life and death. It will take a ban on beer at baseball games to clue in to the average person that islam is evil. A few murders here and there are media time fillers, no relationship to most peoples lives. A ban on beer and hot dogs will have riots in the streets.

Blankety-Blank
Blankety-Blank
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

There is a world of difference between recognizing, even acknowledging the supremacist ideology of the Koran & the Hadiths and picking on everyone who claims to observe Mohammedan traditions regardless of their acceptance of enlightenment values and a rejection of outmoded traditions. As I already pointed out, we no longer burn witches. But it wasn’t very long ago that such Prince-of-Peace inspired actions were considered normative religious practices. We have to encourage similar growth of Islamic dogma, or we will see the extermination of the population of the world as the crazies overrun us all. One way to encourage modernization is to teach others to be as tolerant of us as we wish we were ourselves. We don’t even achieve our own ideals, yet we expect others whom we disdain to be better than us.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Blankety-Blank

The major problem with islam is that it murders any who deny the qur’an’s literal word. islam considers itself to be far superior to every other form of human endeavour. It also believes it has a divine right to enforce islam on everyone, with death being the other option. There is no concept of tolerance, love or forgiveness islam, it is submission of death. Any attempt to reform islam is considered apostasy, which is punishable by death. There is only one way to deal with such creatures.

Blankety-Blank
Blankety-Blank
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

SOME Muslims murder others. Actually lots of Muslims do. But most of them are busy killing each other in their own back yards. Or in Detroit or Europe. We have the possibility of encouraging more modern forms of Islam to prosper if we work at that. And, I agree, if we do more to interdict the bastards who preach hate. I just read that there’s a new hatemonger in – where was it? Boston? a new Imam whose teachings are antithetical to the progressive (small “p”) values we purportedly subscribe to in trying to make the world more inclusive and peaceful. We certainly need to confront those folks who would force us to do as they demand – like Republicans & Democrats. But we also have to acknowledge those Muslims who would like to fit in to our way of life and try to be an accepted part of our culture need to be encouraged. Unfortunately, there is also a Mohammedan doctrine of lying to fool the infidels and subvert them. I’d be far more wary of that (taqiya) than of the overt hostilities we experience. That really is the biggest issue – how do you know when your Muslim neighbor is being friendly sincerely, and when he intends to deceive you until he can conquer you… That, I will agree, is a serious problem. But again, what are you going to do? Kill everyone?

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Blankety-Blank

For a start, we will have to prevent muslims from killing everyone in the name of islam. that may involve a few “re-education camps” this will not be pretty, but society being eaten alive by muslim cannibals is not pleasant. It will be necessary to, if necessary, use brute force and ignorance to enforce the constitution and bill of rights on muslims.

D. M. Mitchell
D. M. Mitchell
7 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

It would seem that you didn’t read my full post. Or if you did you didn’t understand it. Further, I don’t see how my position on the full and complete inalienable rights of consenting adults leads you to think that I am a welfare socialist. I am a hard-core libertarian. And, if you would care to check out other posts by me, you would see that I have no love for Muslims or the religion of Islam.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago
Reply to  D. M. Mitchell

If polygamy is legalised retard, the f’ing muslums will take full advantage of it at the welfare office. I don’t give a FFF if you want polygamy as long as you support the muslum scumbags on your dime.

D. M. Mitchell
D. M. Mitchell
7 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

The problem is with the socialist state in which we live: The United Socialist States of America–U.S.S.A., not with people who wish to be polygamists or polyandrists or group marriage people. The people need to stop voting into office the people who will give away tax money to anyone just so long as they get their vote and stay in office. The American political system is so corrupt as to defy imagination and yet the American public goes along with it it as if they had not other choice. Let private charities take care of the truly needy, not the U.S. or state governments. That’s not in the U.S. Constitution which all branches of our federal government have abandoned many years ago.

jeremy steering
jeremy steering
7 years ago

I posted this as a response to another article about the obscene veil, it also fits well here on the subject of polygamy. Politically correct Britain is totally screwed.

“A shocking documentary on Britain’s Channel 4, “The Men With Many Wives” – polygamous marriage in Britain – had this quote from one of the men it followed who insists on his wives covering their faces with the traditional veil: ‘My wives are something to be covered and protected for me,’ he says. ‘Some people put sheets over their cars, they cover their valuables and keep them away from people seeing and desiring the things that they have.’

Read about him and the others here… http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2762988/Strolling-park-London-businessman-THREE-wives-just-one-20-000-multi-wife-marriages-POLYGAMY-BRITAIN.html

A clue to Britain’s future lies right here in the programme – Mohammed el Ghannay from Sheffield whose whole family relies on state benefits says: “We’ve got three wives, one husband, 11 children: we are a family.” Yet his third wife, 26 years old and caring for three of his children hundreds of miles away in Morocco, is left alone for nine months of the year…. Shaheen Qureshi is a mother of eight also on state benefits.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago

Does anyone in the Islamic Puppet States of America not think this is going on in the USA right now?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
7 years ago

The f’ing muslums want polygamy legalised so the poorer jihadi apes can game the system for more jizya. Having 4 wives will enable the poorer jihadi ape to have 4 wives and 12 children all supported by kafir al najjis tax dollars.

GrammieBurgess
GrammieBurgess
7 years ago

Marriage has been redefined to mean anything goes. Why not polygamy? They’ll be marrying goats soon enough.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  GrammieBurgess

If you saw what is under the burka, it is understandable.

Ron Cole
Ron Cole
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

I looked:
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AARRG!

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Ron Cole

Curiosity is not always a good thing, some knowledge is revolting.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

Mr. Piccardo commented: “Do not underestimate the demographic action of polygamy. It would rebalance population decline and the consequent need for foreign labour”….
What a crock of excrement. muslims don’t work, they collect welfare, the lies the eu spew make taqiyya look mild.

michaelofsydney
michaelofsydney
7 years ago

Seems fair enough to me. They might also claim..’Well….Europeans…you slaughter your babies…and we kill you…what’s the difference?”. Don’t forget their is a spiritual war happening. Today is the Feast of The Assumption, when Blessed Mary..Mother of God was taken into heaven. Focus on Jesus and your soul will be OK

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
7 years ago

There is no such word as “commodify” or “commodifies”.

Blankety-Blank
Blankety-Blank
7 years ago

com·mod·i·fy
kəˈmädəˌfī/
verb
verb: commodify; 3rd person present: commodifies; past tense: commodified; past participle: commodified; gerund or present participle: commodifying
turn into or treat as a commodity.”art has become commodified”

Blankety-Blank
Blankety-Blank
7 years ago

I don’t see the problem as long as all parties are in agreement. Poygyny would be prejudicial, but true polygamy sounds fair to me. Of course, that’s not what Muslims are asking for, but our vocabularies are even less accurate than our perceptions. And that’s saying something.

John Kimberly
John Kimberly
7 years ago

They will breed you out of political existence. Italy’s birth rate is plummeting. One Muslim man equals twenty children. Where as 8.4 births for 1000 people in Italy. England has the problem of it’s Muslim population doubling every two years. Their working a legal angle here also. There must be a monetary angle here. You should be able to figure out on paper the exact year they will over take the country and you will no longer have a voice.

joker
joker
7 years ago

Just for the sake of it, the first photo are not muzzrats but Gypsies from Romania.

Steve
Steve
7 years ago

Hey I already pay for their welfare here so if there is a go fund me refugee site for islamist polygamists that’s where i’ m headed. I might even send them some of my rabbits in case they need some pointers.

Mike Knox
Mike Knox
7 years ago

With the Pope’s embrace of Islam, the decline in church going Italians and the aging population, how many Italians will stand up and kick the Muslims out of their country? Like in every Western country, the day of reckoning is near.

joe1429
joe1429
7 years ago

When you “open the box, on the definition of marriage, this is what happens. They may win in court, as well as other groups “definition” of marriage. Very sad

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