Kosovo, the New Jihad State in the Heart of Europe

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As I predicted, as did anyone who warned of the consequences of siding with the Muslims against the Christians in the Balkans. The attacks against me for standing with the Serbs were merciless. For years, I warned that we were paving the way for an Islamic state in the heart of Europe, and now they have it. Of course, the NY Times is like the hunchback who can’t see its own hump. They blame the Saudis, when it’s all driven by Islam. Period.

The American people deserve an explanation as to why we chose to aid the Islamic jihad in Kosovo. Instead, they are fed more lies, more taqiyya, in the efforts of dhimmi Western leaders to declare Kosovo an independent state, an Islamic state in the heart of Europe.

Now the NY Times is shocked and dismayed that Kosovo has gone ….. jihad.

And the millions of Muslim migrants in the current hijrah will just increase their army.

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Look at what we did. Watch this documentary on the bombing of Serbia (in 1999).

How Kosovo Was Turned Into Fertile Ground for ISIS

Extremist clerics and secretive associations funded
by Saudis and others have transformed a
once-tolerant Muslim society into a font of extremism.

“This is Wahhabism coming into our society,” Mr. Bilalli, 52, said in a recent interview.

PRISTINA, Kosovo — Every Friday, just yards from a statue of Bill Clinton with arm aloft in a cheery wave, hundreds of young bearded men make a show of kneeling to pray on the sidewalk outside an improvised mosque in a former furniture store.

The mosque is one of scores built here with Saudi government money and blamed for spreading Wahhabism — the conservative ideology dominant in Saudi Arabia — in the 17 years since an American-led intervention wrested tiny Kosovo from Serbian oppression.

Since then — much of that time under the watch of American officials — Saudi money and influence have transformed this once-tolerant Muslim society at the hem of Europe into a font of Islamic extremism and a pipeline for jihadists.

Kosovo now finds itself, like the rest of Europe, fending off the threat of radical Islam. Over the last two years, the police have identified 314 Kosovars — including two suicide bombers, 44 women and 28 children — who have gone abroad to join the Islamic State, the highest number per capita in Europe.

They were radicalized and recruited, Kosovo investigators say, by a corps of extremist clerics and secretive associations funded by Saudi Arabia and other conservative Arab gulf states using an obscure, labyrinthine network of donations from charities, private individuals and government ministries.

“They promoted political Islam,” said Fatos Makolli, the director of Kosovo’s counterterrorism police. “They spent a lot of money to promote it through different programs mainly with young, vulnerable people, and they brought in a lot of Wahhabi and Salafi literature. They brought these people closer to radical political Islam, which resulted in their radicalization.”

After two years of investigations, the police have charged 67 people, arrested 14 imams and shut down 19 Muslim organizations for acting against the Constitution, inciting hatred and recruiting for terrorism. The most recent sentences, which included a 10-year prison term, were handed down on Friday.

It is a stunning turnabout for a land of 1.8 million people that not long ago was among the most pro-American Muslim societies in the world. Americans were welcomed as liberators after leading months of NATO bombing in 1999 that spawned an independent Kosovo.

 American bombing of Serbian positions in Kosovo in 1999 during the air campaign by NATO. Credit Jerome Delay/Associated Press

American bombing of Serbian positions in Kosovo in 1999 during the air campaign by NATO. Credit Jerome Delay/Associated Press

After the war, United Nations officials administered the territory and American forces helped keep the peace. The Saudis arrived, too, bringing millions of euros in aid to a poor and war-ravaged land.

But where the Americans saw a chance to create a new democracy, the Saudis saw a new land to spread Wahhabism.

“There is no evidence that any organization gave money directly to people to go to Syria,” Mr. Makolli said. “The issue is they supported thinkers who promote violence and jihad in the name of protecting Islam.”

Albanians in Kosovo still adore USA and it`s politicians like Bill Clinton. Out of majority Serbian populated land with rich history,…

A portrait of Bill Clinton on a back street in Pristina near Bill Clinton Boulevard.

A portrait of Bill Clinton on a back street in Pristina near Bill Clinton Boulevard. Credit Andrew Testa for The New York Times

Kosovo now has over 800 mosques, 240 of them built since the war and blamed for helping indoctrinate a new generation in Wahhabism. They are part of what moderate imams and officials here describe as a deliberate, long-term strategy by Saudi Arabia to reshape Islam in its image, not only in Kosovo but around the world.

Saudi diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks in 2015 reveal a system of funding for mosques, Islamic centers and Saudi-trained clerics that spans Asia, Africa and Europe. In New Delhi alone, 140 Muslim preachers are listed as on the Saudi Consulate’s payroll.

All around Kosovo, families are grappling with the aftermath of years of proselytizing by Saudi-trained preachers. Some daughters refuse to shake hands with or talk to male relatives. Some sons have gone off to jihad. Religious vigilantes have threatened — or committed — violence against academics, journalists and politicians.

The Balkans, Europe’s historical fault line, have yet to heal from the ethnic wars of the 1990s. But they are now infected with a new intolerance, moderate imams and officials in the region warn.

How Kosovo and the very nature of its society was fundamentally recast is a story of a decades-long global ambition by Saudi Arabia to spread its hard-line version of Islam — heavily funded and systematically applied, including with threats and intimidation by followers.

 American bombing of Serbian positions in Kosovo in 1999 during the air campaign by NATO. Credit Jerome Delay/Associated Press
American bombing of Serbian positions in Kosovo in 1999 during the air campaign by NATO. Credit Jerome Delay/Associated Press

After the war ended in 1999, Idriz Bilalli, the imam of the central mosque in Podujevo, welcomed any help he could get.

Podujevo, home to about 90,000 people in northeast Kosovo, was a reasonably prosperous town with high schools and small businesses in an area hugged by farmland and forests. It was known for its strong Muslim tradition even in a land where people long wore their religion lightly.

After decades of Communist rule when Kosovo was part of Yugoslavia, men and women mingle freely, schools are coeducational, and girls rarely wear the veil. Still, Serbian paramilitary forces burned down 218 mosques as part of their war against Kosovo’s ethnic Albanians, who are 95 percent Muslim. Mr. Bilalli needed help to rebuild.

When two imams in their 30s, Fadil Musliu and Fadil Sogojeva, who were studying for master’s degrees in Saudi Arabia, showed up after the war with money to organize summer religion courses, Mr. Bilalli agreed to help.

The imams were just two of some 200 Kosovars who took advantage of scholarships after the war to study Islam in Saudi Arabia. Many, like them, returned with missionary zeal.

Soon, under Mr. Musliu’s tutelage, pupils started adopting a rigid manner of prayer, foreign to the moderate Islamic traditions of this part of Europe. Mr. Bilalli recognized the influence, and he grew concerned.

“This is Wahhabism coming into our society,” Mr. Bilalli, 52, said in a recent interview.

Mr. Bilalli trained at the University of Medina in Saudi Arabia in the late 1980s, and as a student he had been warned by a Kosovar professor to guard against the cultural differences of Wahhabism. He understood there was a campaign of proselytizing, pushed by the Saudis.

“The first thing the Wahhabis do is to take members of our congregation, who understand Islam in the traditional Kosovo way that we had for generations, and try to draw them away from this understanding,” he said. “Once they get them away from the traditional congregation, then they start bombarding them with radical thoughts and ideas.”

“The main goal of their activity is to create conflict between people,” he said. “This first creates division, and then hatred, and then it can come to what happened in Arab countries, where war starts because of these conflicting ideas.”

From the outset, the newly arriving clerics sought to overtake the Islamic Community of Kosovo, an organization that for generations has been the custodian of the tolerant form of Islam that was practiced in the region, townspeople and officials say.

Muslims in Kosovo, which was a part of the Ottoman Empire for 500 years, follow the Hanafi school of Islam, traditionally a liberal version that is accepting of other religions.

But all around the country, a new breed of radical preachers was setting up in neighborhood mosques, often newly built with Saudi money.

In some cases, centuries-old buildings were bulldozed, including a historic library in Gjakova and several 400-year-old mosques, as well as shrines, graveyards and Dervish monasteries, all considered idolatrous in Wahhabi teaching.

From their bases, the Saudi-trained imams propagated Wahhabism’s tenets: the supremacy of Sharia law as well as ideas of violent jihad and takfirism, which authorizes the killing of Muslims considered heretics for not following its interpretation of Islam.

The Saudi-sponsored charities often paid salaries and overhead costs, and financed courses in religion, as well as English and computer classes, moderate imams and investigators explained.

But the charitable assistance often had conditions attached. Families were given monthly stipends on the condition that they attended sermons in the mosque and that women and girls wore the veil, human rights activists said.

“People were so needy, there was no one who did not join,” recalled Ajnishahe Halimi, a politician who campaigned to have a radical Albanian imam expelled after families complained of abuse.
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Gjilan, a town of about 90,000 where a moderate imam was kidnapped and beaten by extremists. Credit Andrew Testa for The New York Times
Threats Intensify

Within a few years of the war’s end, the older generation of traditional clerics began to encounter aggression from young Wahhabis.

Paradoxically, some of the most serious tensions built in Gjilan, an eastern Kosovo town of about 90,000, where up to 7,000 American troops were stationed as part of Kosovo’s United Nations-run peacekeeping force at Camp Bondsteel.

“They came in the name of aid,” one moderate imam in Gjilan, Enver Rexhepi, said of the Arab charities. “But they came with a background of different intentions, and that’s where the Islamic religion started splitting here.”

One day in 2004, he recalled, he was threatened by one of the most aggressive young Wahhabis, Zekirja Qazimi, a former madrasa student then in his early 20s.

Inside his mosque, Mr. Rexhepi had long displayed an Albanian flag. Emblazoned with a double-headed eagle, it was a popular symbol of Kosovo’s liberation struggle.

But strict Muslim fundamentalists consider the depiction of any living being as idolatrous. Mr. Qazimi tore the flag down. Mr. Rexhepi put it back.

“It will not go long like this,” Mr. Qazimi told him angrily, Mr. Rexhepi recounted.

Within days, Mr. Rexhepi was abducted and savagely beaten by masked men in woods above Gjilan. He later accused Mr. Qazimi of having been behind the attack, but police investigations went nowhere.

Ten years later, in 2014, after two young Kosovars blew themselves up in suicide bombings in Iraq and Turkey, investigators began an extensive investigation into the sources of radicalism. Mr. Qazimi was arrested hiding in the same woods. On Friday, a court sentenced him to 10 years in prison after he faced charges of inciting hatred and recruiting for a terrorist organization.

Before Mr. Qazimi was arrested, his influence was profound, under what investigators now say was the sway of Egyptian-based extremists and the patronage of Saudi and other gulf Arab sponsors.

By the mid-2000s, Saudi money and Saudi-trained clerics were already exerting influence over the Islamic Community of Kosovo. The leadership quietly condoned the drift toward conservatism, critics of the organization say.

Mr. Qazimi was appointed first to a village mosque, and then to El-Kuddus mosque on the edge of Gjilan. Few could counter him, not even Mustafa Bajrami, his former teacher, who was elected head of the Islamic Community of Gjilan in 2012.

Mr. Bajrami comes from a prominent religious family — his father was the first chief mufti of Yugoslavia during the Communist period. He holds a doctorate in Islamic studies. Yet he remembers pupils began rebelling against him whenever he spoke against Wahhabism.

He soon realized that the students were being taught beliefs that differed from the traditional moderate curriculum by several radical imams in lectures after hours. He banned the use of mosques after official prayer times.

Hostility only grew. He would notice a dismissive gesture in the congregation during his sermons, or someone would curse his wife, or mutter “apostate” or “infidel” as he passed.

In the village, Mr. Qazimi’s influence eventually became so disruptive that residents demanded his removal after he forbade girls and boys to shake hands. But in Gjilan he continued to draw dozens of young people to his after-hours classes.

“They were moving 100 percent according to lessons they were taking from Zekirja Qazimi,” Mr. Bajrami said in an interview. “One hundred percent, in an ideological way.”

Over time, the Saudi-trained imams expanded their work.

By 2004, Mr. Musliu, one of the master’s degree students from Podujevo who studied in Saudi Arabia, had graduated and was imam of a mosque in the capital, Pristina.

In Podujevo, he set up a local charitable organization called Devotshmeria, or Devotion, which taught religion classes and offered social programs for women, orphans and the poor. It was funded by Al Waqf al Islami, a Saudi organization that was one of the 19 eventually closed by investigators.
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Mr. Musliu put a cousin, Jetmir Rrahmani, in charge.

“Then I knew something was starting that would not bring any good,” said Mr. Bilalli, the moderate cleric who had started out teaching with him. In 2004, they had a core of 20 Wahhabis.

“That was only the beginning,” Mr. Bilalli said. “They started multiplying.”

Mr. Bilalli began a vigorous campaign against the spread of unauthorized mosques and Wahhabi teaching. In 2008, he was elected head of the Islamic Community of Podujevo and instituted religion classes for women, in an effort to undercut Devotshmeria.

As he sought to curb the extremists, Mr. Bilalli received death threats, including a note left in the mosque’s alms box. An anonymous telephone caller vowed to make him and his family disappear, he said.

“Anyone who opposes them, they see as an enemy,” Mr. Bilalli said.

He appealed to the leadership of the Islamic Community of Kosovo. But by then it was heavily influenced by Arab gulf sponsors, he said, and he received little support.

When Mr. Bilalli formed a union of fellow moderates, the Islamic Community of Kosovo removed him from his post. His successor, Bekim Jashari, equally concerned by the Saudi influence, nevertheless kept up the fight.

“I spent 10 years in Arab countries and specialized in sectarianism within Islam,” Mr. Jashari said. “It’s very important to stop Arab sectarianism from being introduced to Kosovo.”

Mr. Jashari had a couple of brief successes. He blocked the Saudi-trained imam Mr. Sogojeva from opening a new mosque, and stopped a payment of 20,000 euros, about $22,400, intended for it from the Saudi charity Al Waqf al Islami.

He also began a website, Speak Now, to counter Wahhabi teaching. But he remains so concerned about Wahhabi preachers that he never lets his 19-year-old son attend prayers on his own.

The radical imams Mr. Musliu and Mr. Sogojeva still preach in Pristina, where for prayers they draw crowds of young men who glare at foreign reporters.

Mr. Sogojeva dresses in a traditional robe and banded cleric’s hat, but his newly built mosque is an incongruous modern multistory building. He admonished his congregation with a rapid-fire list of dos and don’ts in a recent Friday sermon.

Neither imam seems to lack funds.

In an interview, Mr. Musliu insisted that he was financed by local donations, but confirmed that he had received Saudi funding for his early religion courses.

The instruction, he said, is not out of line with Kosovo’s traditions. The increase in religiosity among young people was natural after Kosovo gained its freedom, he said.

“Those who are not believers and do not read enough, they feel a bit shocked,” he said. “But we coordinated with other imams, and everything was in line with Islam.”

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Wolfgang Stahl
Wolfgang Stahl
7 years ago

NATO bombed the Serbs to the ground for defending themselves against the islamic aggressions of the Kosovo-Albanians. Now Kosovo which before belonged to the christians belongs to the muslims, same thing happend befor with Albania…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNLoluBOpXQ

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  Wolfgang Stahl

Somes it up in a few words what’s happening to Serbia

Wolfgang Stahl
Wolfgang Stahl
7 years ago
Reply to  knight

Betrayal of Christianity!

hurricanepaul
hurricanepaul
7 years ago

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton supported Morsi, the leader of The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and did everything in her power (with the help of President Obama) to depose Mubarak, a long-time ally of The United States and Israel.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Obama conspired to get rid of our ally and impose in his place the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood.

I mean, how messed up is that?

If not for the people of Egypt, and their will to destroy The Muslim Brotherhood, Morsi, would still be the president of Egypt.

And now Hillary Clinton wants to be our president?

Really? I don’t think so.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
7 years ago
Reply to  hurricanepaul

You got that right. The destabilization of the entire Middle East can be laid at their feet. Mubarak in Egypt was a stable and reliable ally for over 30 years, Qadafi in Lybia had begun to come around and align with us, and then the massive pullout from Iraq and Afghanistan. The way things are going I’m beginning to believe Assad is Syria may not be so bad. After all, who would replace him?

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  hurricanepaul

What a waste of trillions of dollars US spent on defence only to allow terrorist to conquer

Wolfgang Stahl
Wolfgang Stahl
7 years ago

MICHAEL SAVAGE – THE TRUTH ABOUT KOSOVO AND SERBIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmcPnab3q5w

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  Wolfgang Stahl

Michael Savage understands allot more than most people world wide.

One only has to look up Corporates, Globalist that funded Hitler, Stalin, even Prescott Bush.. Earliest mention was Rockefellor late 1800’s funding evil, but what made these all fund evil and when I looked it was the Vatican that controls much of the banking system.

As mentioned the victims besides the Jews have been Orthodox. Armenia, Greeks, Russians, and list goes on. Two main enemies of Orthodox, Muslims and Papacy. WW1 and 2 weakened the Christian cultures as millions died with Jews. Only a few Muslims died, Catholic deaths collatoral damage

Wolfgang Stahl
Wolfgang Stahl
7 years ago
Reply to  knight

Yes! Yes! And Yes again…!

Wolfgang Stahl
Wolfgang Stahl
7 years ago

Imagine mexicans would occupy california and force out all others and the americans who would defend their ground would be bombed by the NATO…Exactly the same happened to the christian serbs in kosovo when the muslims occupied serbian land with the help of america…
“Swiss Member of Parliament Oskar Freysinger Has Had Enough. Stop the islamization of europe!!!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IXsTKzOTvo

Dean
Dean
7 years ago
Reply to  Wolfgang Stahl

When the west acted strong the jihadists ran and hid after WW I but when we let Iranians take the oil fields from the oil companies, they smelled the weakness and I thought that our foolishness of taking the wrong side in the Balkans was the catalyst for the continuous insurgency against the west since then by Muslims. The hard lessons of history understood even by Jefferson was forgotten after WW II and the savages have been let loose on the naïve and stupid civilization created by the west.

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  Dean

I blame Britain for most of the problems with the Balfour Deflation, and by putting the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Amin al-Husseini as leader

Dean
Dean
7 years ago
Reply to  knight

Britain all but kissed Hitler’s a** before the war and after Churchill lead them out of it they promptly fired him, but the west has legions of progressive international irrationals. What Obama insists on as a solution has failed for 60+ years and is blood in the water for Muslim sharks.

Dean
Dean
7 years ago
Reply to  Dean

And obviously Obama may not be opposed to them whatsoever. And our failure started with Eisenhower and continued through Reagan to the present.

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  Dean

Britain ruled the Middle East and gave it away to terrorism

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  Wolfgang Stahl

Time for countries to follow Austria and kick out the old system of politicians who betray us

Wolfgang Stahl
Wolfgang Stahl
7 years ago
Reply to  knight

My brother in faith, he is a Swiss, not an Austrian…;)

Wolfgang Stahl
Wolfgang Stahl
7 years ago

This Jew is great and he brings it on point about serbia and the serbs!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lFWuGVE7rs

Wolfgang Stahl
Wolfgang Stahl
7 years ago
Reply to  Wolfgang Stahl

There were mass graves in Kosovo but the most bodies which were presents as Muslims, in reality were Serbs which the Muslims had cut off their penises and after they killed them, they buried them with Qurans, so they look like Muslim victims of the Serbs. I know that from a very good friend of mine, he is a Serb who fought against those islamic terrorists in the 1990s !

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  Wolfgang Stahl

Grand Mufti and Hitler, do not forget to enjoy my other posts above to back up this video. Worst part the West never shown the truth, but fed lies by our politicians, UN, EU etc

The Nazis and the Palestine movement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjARZPAcATM

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  knight

Serbia Europe’s unknown genocide
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/History/ww2/Bosnia.html

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  knight

Hiding Genocide; Before the Srebrenica Massacre: Jihad In the Balkans!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyl5wxJPIQs

Dean
Dean
7 years ago

I didn’t follow Pamela then but thank you just the same. It is just like you to oppose the whole world since it is insane. I likened it at the time to Mexican illegals south of San Diego trying to take the area back to Mexico and when the govt. opposed them and cracks down on the illegal activity lead by gangs, the world would believe every unproven tale of atrocities and try to destroy us, except of course we have the great equalizers, nukes. We could not have been more on the wrong side of history under Clinton. Belatedly, thank you again.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
7 years ago

Consider this: Clinton bragged about the success of this NATO op and now his corrupt wife wants to be President. And commiecrats say Trump is off his rocker for wanting to abandon NATO? And when is the last time you went new car shopping for the latest model of a Yugo?

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
7 years ago

Drew, this NATO attack on Serbia, a staunch Allied ally during WW2, was a terrible American/Bill Clinton-led act of NATO treachery and stupidity, utterly devoid of vision. And now the Kosovo mess we see, not least churches demolished and replaced by mosques, and Serbs driven out of Kosovo while NATO troops turned a blind eye. At the time I wrote to a Canadian newspaper saying so, but being Canadian it would not publish such a letter of condemnation. Why would the Serbs ever again trust the now pansy-led NATO, or Donald Trump hold NATO in any regard? As long as the West is ‘led’ by what the contemporary United States has become under successive disgusting presidents like Clinton, George W Bush (who at first I welcomed) and Barack Obama the final straw for treachery, pathological lying and incompetence, NATO will be a dead loss. Under this excuse for ‘leadership’ we absolutely can count on whomever is appointed to lead NATO being a neutered excuse for a man, certainly not remotely in the mold of Norman Schwarzkopf or Stanley McChrystal – but now after David Patreaus turning out the dead loss he has, I’m almost afraid that in this pathetic day and age McChrystal might transform into another Patreaus. It’s as if too many of these men have been drinking too much plastic bottled water and their testosterone level going to hell!!!

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

A very nasty World Order out there with its finger’s in many dirt pies.

Even the Panama Papers founders tied to Muslim Waffen SS, basically Muslim Bosnians, helped by US Operation Paperclip, Kissinger’s Spies.

If I was Trump, first thing would to break up all these world meetings by world leaders who contributed to the world’s problems with UN and EU, IMF

Do not forget to enjoy this video about EU
https://www.youtube.com/embed/A7TJgPGgfZs

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
7 years ago
Reply to  knight

Thanks for this. I watched it yesterday. The West today has mostly terrible ‘leaders’ who for their treachery deserve to be violently overthrown like Rumania’s Nicolae Ceaușescu.

joe1429
joe1429
7 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

I dont think kosovo should have got independance, but the world could not stand by while the serbs committed isis like atrocoties. Mass killings and rapes

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
7 years ago
Reply to  joe1429

As a matter of interest that story of the Serbs committing all manner of crimes in Kosovo is pure fabrication. Canadian Major-General Lewis MacKenzie who at one time was the senior general in charge of U.N. forces in the Balkans, has revealed that regardless of what happened elsewhere, no mass grave were found in Kosovo – other than that which contained the remains of refugees mistakenly bombed by the Americans. An RAF pilot warned the Americans that they were bombing the wrong people.

That the Serbs behaved poorly atrociously -as did the Croats and Muslims – is evident, but after Tito’s death this was their first opportunity to avenge what Serbs suffered at the hands of the Croats and Muslims during WW2 when the Croats and Muslims sided with the Nazis. Something like 1 1/2 million Serbs died in Croat-run POW camps even the Germans were startled by their cruelty to the Serbs. So the chickens came home to roost.

Steve
Steve
7 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

All we heard here i remember was the cruelty of milosevic but none of the rest of the story. It seems all this has been developing for a long time. It was a bit surprising the first time i heard about the muslim ss divisions.

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
7 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Re Milosevic, I agree with you, Steve. We were given what justified NATO’s cowardly bombing of Serbia, but little of what Croats and Muslims were doing to Serbs and after the WW2 experience its is a disgraceful ‘stretch’ to imagine the Serb-hateing Croats and Muslims were not largely responsible for atrocities. For the Serbs it way ‘pay back’ time and I understood that much. It was ugly, but what happened to the Serbs was ugly – and then no accountability through trials like that at Nuremberg. Why didn’t Clinton and the rest understand this? Thanks for the link.

Steve
Steve
7 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

It seems that even though the masses are generally pretty dull that with the information age the overall general knowledge of history has increased with a trickle down effect of increased discernment of people to understand events and related causes. However, one wonders with this increased understanding how much is led by biased information by media in the past and now. I think people just have to become more educated over just sitting back and going along with things.

As far as Clinton he’s the ultimate rotten apple early on and its likely he understood more than he let on – in my opinion. His undoing of course was his blantant womanizing. Yes, no Nuremberg for the serbs. I can imagine how they must have existed for years with a sense of waiting for payback for all the people killed.

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

They do and many guilty of human rights abuses or failure to take action

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
7 years ago
Reply to  knight

Listening to Clinton when Serbia was being bombed – without an ability to defend itself or retaliate – is just disgusting and re-emphasized what a contemptible liar he is. In effect, ‘Serbia is evil and we wondrous Americans who wouldn’t say boo to a goose are so pure we are putting an end to evil’. They didn’t, they created in Kosovo a new evil. However, now that ISIS, al Qaeda and other Islamic groups have manifested astounding evil, Obama, Cameron, Trudeau and other totally morally destitute Western scum who pass for ‘leaders’ are not outraged and dedicated to wiping out the vermin of Islam who are ‘cleansing’ the Middle East of Christians, murdering on a huge scale and in a sadistic manner. There is something mentally and morally disordered by ‘men’ such as Obama, Cameron, Trudeau and other western scheits. Wisdom, good judgment, and moral impulse has died in the now secular, non-Christian West. In reality, those referred to as the ‘elite’ are mostly really morally destitute trash human beings. If this were not so there would be howls of wrath in the U.S. Congress and in British and Canadian parliaments. Instead there is silence and politically correct-driven efforts to diminish Islams evil and cruelty. The cowardice and pretense that things are not moving in a horrible direction is absolutely astounding. The masses – like their leaders – are craven and gullible.

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

Just likeNicolae Ceaușescu and his wife shot, so they should do all those government officials and their wives should be shot. This includes heads of departments, advisors who knew and did nothing.

Steve
Steve
7 years ago
Reply to  knight

This ethnic cleansing by occupation is what is happening in major american cities with blacks, hispanics and now muslims essentially forcing flight of whites and others who don’t want to be a part of the chaos whether by gang or not. Entire areas like east st louis, detroit, hamtramck, new orleans, new york, los angeles, baltimore, washington, etc etc etc are places where whites and others proceed at their own risk. Its not multidiverse but segregation at its worse.

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Something has to give, the sooner something gives in a big way may send a message to rest of world

Steve
Steve
7 years ago
Reply to  knight

Hopefully it starts with this next election – at least in this country!

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  Steve

No I wish Australia, July 2, throw the major parties out. Supporters of Indonesia’s atrocities West Papua, besides the past

Lukas Lumbantobing
Lukas Lumbantobing
7 years ago
Reply to  knight

Want every muslim country to be dismembered? Think again.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
7 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

Agreed. NATO is nothing more than the UN in microcosm. What really sticks in my craw is Clinton saying, “I won that war from 35,00 feet”, as if there were such a thing as an antiseptic war. This is the same overreliance on drones that we see today from Obhammud as if it is a video game. It is obvious neither ever picked up a copy of Clausewitz’s “On War” which was written in 1832 when the sum total of warfare consisted of infantry, cavalry, and artillery with no air or maritime assets. Remember also that Clinton had multiple opportunities to take out bin Laden, once three times in a 36 hour period, and passed on every one.

Rob Porter
Rob Porter
7 years ago

Agreed. Bill Clinton is the type of man who only the most useless of women, effeminate men, and the Paul Begala liars of this world admire, a totally gutless, spineless ‘slick Wille’ individual who today I view with far more disdain than a dog’s turd. What the U.S. and NATO did to Serbia was utterly cowardly – after this fool president fell for the Kosovo Albanian Muslim’s deceit. It was disgusting and stupid, this much now all too apparent – and now he thinks that HE won this war – after he evaded the draft, thus never served in the military, and showed disdain for it. I know of Clinton utterly spineless failure to bump off Osama bin Laden after reading ‘Losing bin Laden’ and one or two articles. The Northern Alliance and CIA with bin Laden and his henchmen inside, had their al Qaeda camp surrounded, awaiting the go ahead and liquidate the inhabitants, but Clinton, Sandy Burger, Madeleine Albright and other fools didn’t like the idea of ‘people getting killed’. Instead, within a short time almost 3,000 died in the 9/11 Musllm attack – but don’t tell David Patraeus this because it might antagonize Muslims and decide them not to help the West fight ISIS, al Qaeda and other Muslim extremist groups.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
7 years ago
Reply to  Rob Porter

Agreed. Having Petraeus start work is like having two good men quit.

Warren
Warren
7 years ago

I remember taking part in the demonstrations against this attack on Serbia. “Let the rapist who is without sin fire the first missile.” was one of the signs that I had made. Bill Clinton should be charged as a war criminal.

BoWhetstone
BoWhetstone
7 years ago

.Obama and Clinton want you defenseless- and will take all registered firearms-
Obama says it will take 20 years before the firearms are taken from criminals-
but Obama is willing to let the law abiding citizens be vamped for 20 years
to see it done. that means you and your children will be victims big time for
2 decades–if Obama is correct–but the 18th amendment did not rid America of
alcohol did it? people get what people want -legal or illegal- if it is illegal-
china and mexico will make billions in the black market of guns–
meanwhile working class americans will die by the tens of thousands
at the hands of the free for all criminals and hoards of
looting murderous BLM obamaphone people.
nationwide- everyone needs protection that can be quickly administered-
and it must be lethal. if you do not want the hassle of registering a firearm
there is another way to have power in your pocket-
the law allows for the direct purchase of a cap and ball black powder revolver-
no registering it- unregulated-(for now anyway) and the purchase of what is called
a conversion cylinder– take out the original cylinder that is cap and ball-
and replace it with a conversion cylinder to accept modern ammunition-
when the conversion cylinder is put into the revolver it technically becomes
a firearm- but when it is taken out of the revolver the revolver reverts to a
non regulated non-firearm.x

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  BoWhetstone

There are many ways to skin a cat, and many ways to make your own weapons for self defence and nearly every house hold has the materials to make deadly toys than guns

Dimy Sharma
Dimy Sharma
7 years ago

What is this moderate kosovo islam.
“Moderate Islam” is oxymoronic term which western idiots and lying Muslims use.
Is Pamela implying in this article that Kosovo Islam is better than Saudi Islam.
Islam is Islam.
lying Kosovars Islamic are moderate who say wolf is sheep, and Saudi Islamic are extremists who says wolf is wolf.

DowntotheBone
DowntotheBone
7 years ago

Another wonderful thing the pig Clinton did for – actually, to – our country.

knight
knight
7 years ago

Off Topic

West Papua, where you cannot raise your own country flag

https://www.freewestpapua.org/2016/05/20/getting-the-facts-straight-on-west-papua/

knight
knight
7 years ago

I always feel this is an important video, that ties the Catholic Church to the slaughter of Serbians, Jews and Gypsy’s. Even the dogs were not safe
That the war did not end WW2 but still continued well after with the Bosnian Muslims

Come to my Church and all your sins will be forgiven. Only Christ forgives sins, not the Church.
Archbishop Stepinac
God Of Croats (Bog I Hrvati), documentary, English subtitles – Vatican’s role in Holocaust
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7U0C0G-fzug

knight
knight
7 years ago
Reply to  knight

The atrocities against Serbians

One must also know how Priest, Nuns, participated in running and participating with the Muslims in the cruelest concentration camp

Jasenovac – Cruelest Death Camp in WW2 (English subs) (WARNING — NOT CENSORED)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=513VOo5P63Y

knight
knight
7 years ago

To understand what happened one must view this video, although long also puts Bill Clinton in the thick of war crimes. May sound two sided but worth seeing

Bill Clinton denies ceasefire
US weapons found it’s way to the Bosnian Muslims

Srebrenica A Town Betrayed (60 min. made by Norway) not seen at CNN.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FvqHWS_4AuM

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

It is necessary to isolate real estate that is infected with islam. Then, push it back. Standing around talking about the situation leading to the current crisis is entertaining. While pundits are talking, colonist terrorists are marching.

knight
knight
7 years ago

A must read to help understand why WW1 began with the shooting of Arch Duke Ferdinhand and wife Sophie in Serbia

Formation of the Muslim Bosnian army by Austria-Hungary

http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/015.shtml

knight
knight
7 years ago

We must bring many world leaders journalists to be held accountable for supporting war crimes against Serbia.

Dr. Doomsday
Dr. Doomsday
7 years ago

Kosovo again, from another pro-Islamic Clinton war.

I guess George Soros got his moneys worth out of the Clintons.

knight
knight
7 years ago

You know where we went wrong is how sports is given priority than news and huge money that goes to fund it, even the Olympics has become a racket of money

knight
knight
7 years ago
knight
knight
7 years ago

For those that have not seen it, the reason why the word genocide coined

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MfNQJlL6DWQ

Steve
Steve
7 years ago

The u.s. had an opportunity there to send a message to the islamist extremists but it was missed. Now, of course, the disease is all over europe.

Ann Inquirer
Ann Inquirer
7 years ago

As the MSM enemedia sees, hears and speaks no evil of islam and the propaganda is ramped up, it becomes even more difficult to convince Americans of the evils of islam. Like the US knowing little to nothing of the slaughter of Jews in WWII, the same in exposing the Serbs were right.

Benton Marder
Benton Marder
7 years ago

Si, what were the behind the scenes circumstances of the expansion of NATO eastward, the changing of the NATO charter to permit wars of aggression against states that had not attacked any NATO member, the Balkan War to force the break-up of Yugoslavis, the establishment of an Islamic state in the ancient hearetland of Serbia? Did Hillary Clinton, behine the scenes during her gusband’s presidency, help bring all this about?
We all know about ‘blowback’. The Muslim Invasion and Conquest of western Europe and Britain is an example of such ‘blowback’. NATO and the EU are now reaping what they sowed. Western Europe and Britain, under their very own elites, will pass under the Muslim yoke and will remain under the submission and subjugation they imposed upon Serbia. They will live under the yoke for centuries as retribution for what they imposed upon others. Bimeby, for the same reasons and under their own elites, the USA and Canada will pass under the selfsame yoke. As the saying goes, ‘Karma is a b*^%$h’. If the US elects Hilliara, she will be that karma come to pass.

Rocinante44
Rocinante44
7 years ago

the clintons, like the bushes and like obola, have all been bought and sold by saudi oil money. since reagan, the saudis have controlled this country. ask any sebian about this mess and you’ll be sickened by how we helped muslims slaughter christians

joe1429
joe1429
7 years ago

The Saudis are responsible for spreading their filthy version of whabbism, throught the WORLD. I hope trump holds their 2 faced asses accountable. Kosovo was a very moderate country, before the saudis got their fangs into it

fulham2014
fulham2014
7 years ago

Thanks a lot Pamela, to keep us informed, you saw that coming, well, I didn’t, I was deceived after all.

Kosenator
Kosenator
7 years ago

I have noticed that, since the invasion of Afghanistan, everywhere the US military “intervened” in muslim countries, the authorities were replaced with sharia – compliant candidates and the country turned into an islamic state, where freedom is only gained by obeying the quran.

http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com is a good starting point to see how the US military was abused to remove freedom from the middle east.

Yaakov
Yaakov
7 years ago

Isn’t this essentially the same thing that happened in Chechnya? A liberal muslim society radicalized by Saudis. Makes me think all of central Asia could be a ticking time bomb.

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