Government analysts, academics dismiss idea that jihadis could be entering Europe as refugees

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“Gerhard Schindler told the Bild tabloid that there is ‘no concrete evidence’ of terrorists coming to Germany posing as refugees from the Middle East or Africa.”

Yet last February, the Islamic State promised to flood Europe with 500,000 refugees. And an Islamic State operative boasted that among the flood of refugees, 4,000 Islamic State jihadis had entered Europe. “They are going like refugees,” he said. “Just wait…It’s our dream that there should be a caliphate not only in Syria but in all the world, and we will have it soon, inshallah.”

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“Posing as refugees to enter Europe is not seen as a militant strategy,” by Christina Boyle, Los Angeles Times, September 13, 2015:

Fear that Islamist militants are lurking amid the massive influx of refugees flooding Europe have been debated in forums such as Facebook, think tanks and government circles.

But the risk of a rush of so-called refugee warriors appears overstated, in part because it is already easy for groups such as Islamic State to infiltrate Europe through safer, more conventional means, analysts say.

“I don’t see the need for ISIS to embark on such a convoluted scheme to carry out attacks or be a threat in the West,” said Reinoud Leenders, associate professor in international relations and Middle East studies at King’s College London’s Department of War Studies, referring to the militant group by an acronym.

Islamic State has “a huge reservoir of sympathizers who all have Western or European passports and who were born or raised there.”

Concern about security has been among the most potent arguments set forth by groups, from Britain to Hungary, that are seeking to limit the number of war-weary Middle Eastern refugees allowed to resettle.

Nigel Farage, leader of the anti-immigration UK Independence Party in Britain, contends that the European Union’s “interpretation of compassion actually could be a very real threat to our security.”

In an interview on London’s LBC radio, Farage said he sympathized with the viewpoint expressed in some Eastern European countries, notably by Hungary’s prime minister, that their strong Roman Catholic identity would be threatened by an influx of Muslims.

“My concern is that ISIS have actually said that they will use the migrant wave to flood Europe with half a million of their jihadist fighters…. Even if it’s only 500 I’m very worried about that.”

And on Facebook last week, a photo supposedly showing a “before and after” shot of a reputed militant posing as a refugee quickly was shared more than 80,000 times. As it turned out, however, the man, Laith Saleh, had been a commander in the Free Syrian Army fighting Islamist militants as well as forces loyal to Syrian President Bashar Assad.

Such worry has been discussed in policy and academic circles since the 1994 Rwandan genocide, during which large numbers of Hutus entered neighboring Congo as refugees and then regrouped, recruiting among other refugees and launching attacks, Leenders said.

But there is little ground for such alarmist fear in the current humanitarian crisis, analysts say, partly because it would make little sense for a militant group to send trusted fighters on a perilous journey toward Europe that they might not survive.

“An overwhelming majority are genuine refugees,” Leenders said. “They are running away from violence, they do not engage in armed activities; that’s the very reason why they leave.”

Some analysts warn that suspicion and mistrust of the sea of refugees are being used for political ends.

“Rumors are very useful instruments in politics because they drive people towards certain ways of thinking,” said Nadim Shehadi, director of the Fares Center at Tufts University and associate fellow at the Chatham House think tank in London. “In Soviet times they used to block information. Now controlling information is impossible, but you can control the narrative.”

Amnesty International’s head of refugee and migrant rights contends that worry about the refugees adds “insult to injury.”

“You’re trying to flee for your life … but somehow you’re dangerous,” Sherif Elsayed-Ali said. “I think predominantly we should be thinking about how to help them rather than how not to take them.”

In Britain, Home Office figures released Thursday show that the number of people arrested on suspicion of terrorism-related crimes is at a record high, and that there has been a “marked increase” in the number of suspects who are British or dual nationals. But a solid majority of Britons appear to support Prime Minister David Cameron’s plan to resettle 20,000 more Syrian refugees by 2020.

In Germany, where Chancellor Angela Merkel has announced plans to accept as many as 800,000 asylum seekers, the head of the nation’s intelligence service has sought to assuage concern about security.

Gerhard Schindler told the Bild tabloid that there is “no concrete evidence” of terrorists coming to Germany posing as refugees from the Middle East or Africa.

He said it is much easier for terrorists to use “forged or stolen documents and a plane ticket” to enter than risk the treacherous journey across the Mediterranean.

Aid groups say that concern about the flow of refugees should speak to the need for safer, legal routes into Europe.

“To me it’s a flawed argument to say that we shouldn’t take people in because we’re scared of security issues,” said Gauri van Gulik, deputy director for Europe at Amnesty International. “Right now people are coming in and there are a lot of irregular crossings into Europe. This approach isn’t keeping people out.”

A managed flow, she said, would encourage an organized registration process and the ability to track those who enter the continent.

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R.N.T.NC/SC
R.N.T.NC/SC
8 years ago

All I know, the longer you have to talk to make a point (like this Ms Boyle), or try and substantiate a point, the more likely you’re an idiot and have no clue what you’re talking about….

chris wolf
chris wolf
8 years ago

What country did our refugees flee to and depend on the kindness thereof during The Civil War and the Great Depression?
There is no such country.
We solved our own problems.
That’s what white Christians and Jews do — we solve our own problems.
They need to solve their own problems.
We don’t need their problems.
We can’t handle their problems.
“Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives and I de-cline.”

Alucard_the_last
Alucard_the_last
8 years ago
Reply to  chris wolf

White Christians anyway.

donemyhomework
donemyhomework
8 years ago
Reply to  chris wolf

Agree.

chris wolf
chris wolf
8 years ago

Always slippery obama sent his paid liar Josh Earnest out last week to mumble about how 10,000 desperate muslims landing in the United States would be a burden, but a burden a great country surely can bear.
I could see the typical obama bait-and-switch strategy that we’ve seen again and again in the last seven disgraceful years a mile away.
Today an obama collaborator Chris Murphy, D-CT appears on Fox saying how 10,000 is not nearly enough desperate muslims for us to take. Look at Germany, he says, pledging to take 800,000 now and another half-million per year thereafter.
Never mind that Germany appears to be screaming Uncle! already.

Alucard_the_last
Alucard_the_last
8 years ago
Reply to  chris wolf

Chris Murphy sounds like a total idiot. Even though Germany is foolish enough to take them in, just how much is it going to cost WE TAXPAYERS to fly these invaders to the US? You know they aren’t going to travel the same way our military have to travel. You know the government (not our government however) is not going to use a few ships. They will fly in private airlines so maybe Chris Murphy can forfeit his salary for the next few years and use that to pay the TAXPAYERS back for this illegal, treasonous action that he supports.

Stephanie
Stephanie
8 years ago
chris wolf
chris wolf
8 years ago

obama has all the empathy and sense of fair play of his frenzied cannibal race.
On the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks he has us surrendering to Iran, standing by as millions of desperate muslims crusade into Europe with their sights set on Western Civilization, and preparing to launch a new drive of reparations to all the world’s poor for the “climate change” charade he’s been plotting for years to pin on us.

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Voytek Gagalka
Voytek Gagalka
8 years ago

ANY excuse will be used to diminish the threat. To admit that threat is valid and imminent would require immediate plan of action and simply “do something about it.” For whatever reasons, “over-educated” elites and government circles are not willing and/or not able to do that.

Roger
Roger
8 years ago

What is amazing is those Morons are on the same sinking ship as everyone else.
I hope they see lots of nasty Muslim asses in the air every Friday.
Have fun over there.

Alucard_the_last
Alucard_the_last
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger

After these terrorists start to kill their loved ones, it will be too late. The west MUST be Machiavellian with them or. Take note how none of these terrorists are invading Russia or China.

donemyhomework
donemyhomework
8 years ago

They’re next after the west.

chris wolf
chris wolf
8 years ago

I can’t stand the sight of that loathsome, lying piece of crap anymore.
His Fifth Column propaganda is always so shamelessly transparent.
I mean, the same as his muslim brother obama, in his every grunt.

Guessed Worker
Guessed Worker
8 years ago

“Gerhard Schindler told the Bild tabloid that there is ‘no concrete evidence’ of terrorists coming to Germany posing as refugees from the Middle East or Africa.”

Hilareous. For the families who will no doubt have loved ones murdered in the coming jihad attacks, I would suggest heavy lawsuits filed against the government who knew the risks yet proceeded anyway. Just as a drug maker who releases a drug known to have lethal consequences is held liable.

Virginia Allston
Virginia Allston
8 years ago
Reply to  Guessed Worker

Law suits? Are you kidding? This is the law now: Jihad. Just ask the real refugees in Germany, Christians and Ezidi. They are scared!

chris wolf
chris wolf
8 years ago

CNN’s special pleader for the New Crusade Arwa Damon tips her hand, standing in front of a squalid way station of the muslim invasion of Europe, she says it’s her responsibility “to drive as much of this as possible into the homes of our viewers.”
Isn’t that the truth, Arwa!

Globalfirm:humanrights&ecology
Globalfirm:humanrights&ecology
8 years ago

On the real, the Europeans generally don’t care. They don’t care if their music is whack, their clothes tight & ugly, or their favorite ideology Islam.

Virginia Allston
Virginia Allston
8 years ago

Neither do Americans. Look how many turned up for the “March on Washington” or the Detain McCain rally in AZ on the weekend. NOBODY in significant numbers gets it. We deserve what we are about to get!

rambler
rambler
8 years ago

There is nothing like academics having their positions tainted by normalcy bias poisoning. It’s just like those people who will stand in front of a tidal wave and tell themselves…… this isn’t happening to me.

Anon
Anon
8 years ago

So we are up against an enemy who believe in a God who commands them to kill all nonbelievers, and who believe they will be rewarded in Heaven for doing just so. Not some fake wussy kind of religion practiced in the west, but honest to God sorcery/fantasy belief in a God and in an afterlife. We have no chance against this enemy because we are unwilling to escape our denial as to the threat and the response that is required. Islam itself is hostile to civilization- Islam itself treats women as chattel. And Islam itself convinces tens of thousands of males that it is their sole duty on earth to kill all infidels. Islam is a worse threat to civilization than Naziism ever was, and requires an even greater commitment to lethal force in defense of it.

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8 years ago

“Be calm and nothing will happen to you.”
-Mohammed Atta Trade Tower hijacker.

EndDays
EndDays
8 years ago

This Could Kick-Start WW3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq_su8XIpZU

BT
BT
8 years ago

I just hate these ‘people’ that think they are so much smarter than the rest of us and they way they try to ‘guilt’ everyone into helping this islamic ideology to spread. They won’t even take their own and they’ll say it’s because they are concerned about the terrorists in their mix yet we ignore this and keep taking these militant ‘refugees’ in. We are SO stupid to allow them to take advantage of our humanitarian values in this way. They are dangerous to our civil societies if only for their so-called religion of peace. They show us everyday how they are not peaceful in the least!

VLParker
VLParker
8 years ago

Leftists are evil. They are dirt. They hate liberty and love tyranny.

VLParker
VLParker
8 years ago

We know for a fact that jihadists are coming in but even if they weren’t it doesn’t matter. Large numbers of non violent Muslims will still destroy Europe.

Alucard_the_last
Alucard_the_last
8 years ago

As long as one has the IQ to left a fork to their mouths, they can tell another that terrorists are coming in with these invaders (enough with the refugees and migrants crap). Why it has taken days before ‘government analysts’ to come to this conclusion is beyond me.

Dave from San AntonioD
Dave from San Antonio
8 years ago

Gov’t. anal-ists have never been known for their intelligence. ..and yes I meant “anal-ists”.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
8 years ago

Give the raghead time to unpack and you will soon see the dire predictions come to fruition.

Virginia Allston
Virginia Allston
8 years ago

If this isn’t a terrorist NWO strategy then they are stupider than we give THEM credit for. Of course this is the plan. These thousands!! of young men arriving in Germany all have Smart Phones and many jump in waiting taxis… Containers of weapons from Turkey were opened on their way to Europe. Heads in the sand are not going to make this go away.

Po Tato
Po Tato
8 years ago

There is a very important question we must ask ourselves — “Who are those academics, those government analysts working for?”

If your answer is “Universities / Government” you need to have your head check

David Bell
David Bell
8 years ago

Erm….. Conventional methods of entry require their ID and passport etc….. Mingling with refugees GUARANTEES entry with NO documentation at all.

notme123
notme123
8 years ago

These so-called acedemics are stupid, crazy and blind. Every picture I’ve seen is over 90% young healthy males. Fleeing oppression and leaving their family and elderly….

Jack Holan
Jack Holan
8 years ago

Chancellor Merkel it was a timely decision to reverse your open arms policy because I think your citizenry were buying Tar and Feathers for Overseas trip. Reinoud Leenders of Kings College firstly if you actually believe most IS carry foreign passports that will give them entry to the country of their choice, start cracking those books again; its not true. It hardly a convoluted way to achieve their goal of entering Europe. Right now is a period of total chaos just like after WW2 when NAZIs were very successful at moving about Europe because of the pandemonium. Strategically, its pure genius to set up smoke screen like this. They need only send .01 of the expected 1mm in the first wave of immigrants. 10,000 trained terrorists sleeping until the second wave comes so they can scout out and arrange for cars weapons etc. and then you have 2-Divisions. How much of a war could take place not even counting the home grown fodder? Now you are a Professor at the War College?

honeybee
honeybee
8 years ago

They would have murdered Einstein, both the Germans and the Muslims.

donemyhomework
donemyhomework
8 years ago

All Muslims are the same, it doesn’t make any difference if they’re terrorists or what. Just more people spouting out their ignorance of Islam.

Mike Kevins
Mike Kevins
8 years ago

The elites are not worried, the refugees will not be living in their neighborhoods, yet!

SFTOBEY
SFTOBEY
8 years ago

izlam has the army of the immigration jihadists. Europe has the army of the clueless!

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