Vehicular Jihad: 3 Dead, scores injured in Austria after Bosnian Muslim drives into into crowd before ‘stabbing passers-by’

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Another grateful Bosnian Muslim — dead bodies were left lying face down in the street after the vehicle sped through streets near the the historical Herrengasse in Graz.

Must be all that goodwill we generated sending US troops to Bosnia to fight for the Muslims against the Christian Serbs. Another one of our grateful Balkan Muslim friends whom we “rescued” from Christian Serbs and the jaws of civilization.
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“At least three killed in Austria after man drives into crowd before ‘stabbing passers-by’ in Graz,”  The Independent, June 20, 2015

A seven-year-old boy is reportedly among the three people killed in Austria by a man who ploughed his car into crowds in the country’s second-largest city and then reportedly started stabbing people.

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A witness told the Wiener Zeitung newspaper that dead bodies were left lying face down in the street after the vehicle sped through streets near the the historical Herrengasse in Graz.

More than 30 pedestrians, including three children, were hurt during the rampage and 10 victims were in hospital with serious injuries. One patient was in a critical condition on Saturday afternoon.

 The driver, identified by police as a 26-year-old Austrian man of Bosnian heritage, has been arrested. He works as a professional driver and is married with two children. Police investigators stand at the scene where an SUV drove into pedestrians in the city center of Graz, Austria, 20 June 2015. According to reports, a man drove his SUV into a group of people and attacked them with a knife aftwerwards.
Blood could be seen on the pavement after people were run over in Graz earlier today

Witnesses recounted how the man drove his vehicle into the crowd apparently at random, sending people crashing into the windscreen and rolling over the bonnet.

Local media reported that the driver jumped out and attacked at least one passer-by with a knife before he could be subdued and arrested.

The incident happened at around noon local time (11.00am BST), sending screaming shoppers running into shops for safety.

A statement from the city council said: “At 12pm there was an appalling incident in the centre of Graz, which has caused major alarm and left the city deeply shaken.

“A killer used his car as a weapon and deliberately ran people down on a rampage. The perpetrator is in custody.” Paramedics treat a person at the scene where an SUV drove into pedestrians in the city center of Graz, Austria Paramedics treat a person at the scene where an SUV drove into pedestrians in the city center of Graz, Austria

A spokesperson said the killing spree started in Zweiglgasse, where one person died, and the driver continued through the city and over the Schönaugasse bridge to the Jakominiplatz square on Herrengasse, ploughing into a cafe seating area.

A witness speaking to the Wiener Zeitung compared the sound of chairs and tables being knocked over by the speeding car to a “gunfight”.

The mayor of Graz, Siegfried Nagl, was riding his Vespa only metres away from the car as it screamed down Zweiglgasse and said he heard a “loud bang” behind him.

He described seeing the vehicle overtake a bus at “extremely high speed” and hit a man, who died at the scene.

Mr Nagl said: “At first I thought it was an accident and the driver would stop, but he carried on purposefully and had deliberately killed the man.”

The suspect was caught in a nearby street. Police are not currently investigating terrorism as a motive and the man is believed to be suffering from mental illness.

Josef Klamminger, the director of police, said the driver’s motive was not yet known but he appeared to be “psychotic” following problems at home.

Herrengasse is Graz’s main shopping street and the adjoining squares are popular with tourists and diners making the most of the summer with its outdoor cafes and bars. Paramedics at the scene where an SUV drove into pedestrians in the city center of Graz, Austria Paramedics at the scene where an SUV drove into pedestrians in the city center of Graz, Austria

This afternoon it was lined with 50 ambulances and dozens of police cars as helicopters flew overhead.

Hermann Schützenhöfer, the governor of Styria state, called the driver a “deranged lone assassin”.

“We are shocked and dismayed…here is no explanation and no excuse for this attack,” he said at a press conference.

“We have much to do to ensure cohesion in our community, which has clearly become difficult for many people. I appeal to everyone to seek unity in their lives and build bridges, not walls.”

The deputy governor, Michael Schickhofer, called the tragedy “incomprehensible” and said he could not express the city’s pain.

Wilhelm Krautwaschl, the Bishop of Graz, said he was deeply saddened by the attack.

“Shocked about what happened, I pray for the victims and for those hurrying to help them,” he wrote on Facebook.

A memorial service for the victims is due to be held at the Grazer Stadtpfarrkirche at 6pm this afternoon.

The 2015 Austrian Grand Prix is currently being held at the Spielberg Ring about 40 miles from Graz.

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Nathan
Nathan
8 years ago

So have we moved on from “this has nothing to do with islam” to “it isn’t even a terrorist incident”? Nobody believes the first and it’s difficult to dis-prove the second.

Just a thought….

Michael Copeland
Michael Copeland
8 years ago
Reply to  Nathan

Of course, every driver in Austria carries a stabbing knife in the car.
The BBC news did not mention the stabbing.

knight
knight
8 years ago

Not a accident when he jumps out and starts stabbing people.

Joy Beum
Joy Beum
8 years ago

BBC did not mention the stabbing. Are they copying the American media???

Budvarakbar
Budvarakbar
8 years ago
Reply to  Nathan

His is a professional driver — just workplace violence

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago
Reply to  Nathan

“NTDWI” is now so discredited the libtards resort to the “mental illness” excuse. It is becoming very popular.

nemesis
nemesis
8 years ago

Graz like Jerusalem. For half a century now, the main Palestinian contribution to humanity has been to invent new forms of terrorism.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago
Reply to  nemesis

The muslims in Israel have showed their izlamic creativity in their terrorism against unarmed civilians. They’ve put bombs in watermelons, blown up jazz clubs, blown up pizzerias, blown up buses, run people over w/bulldozers & cars. We’ve already seen a case of vehicular jihad in NYC, but the authorities covered it up quickly as an “accident”.

Mr Paul Middleton
Mr Paul Middleton
8 years ago

Reported again.

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8 years ago

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8 years ago
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Mr Paul Middleton
Mr Paul Middleton
8 years ago
Reply to  HERNANDEZ

Reported.

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago

Ditto

Wolf Paul
Wolf Paul
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

I never said it was an accident. It’s obvious that he intended harm and murder. But he is a nominal Muslim only, born and raised in Austria, and his crime had no political or religious motives.
I don’t know where you are from, but I consider anyone who tells me to “FO to a muslim country” because of what I wrote to be somewhat unbalanced. I am in my country and don’t need anyone to tell me to “FO”.

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago
Reply to  Wolf Paul

“no political or religious motives”

Based on what? Where is your evidence?
RU not aware that vehicle jihad has become popular with terrorists? Recall Lee Rigby being run down and beheaded?
THAT was also “NTDWI”. Several such attacks have been carried out in Israel, by ‘Palestinians’ [read HAMAS].

Exmoslim Jan
Exmoslim Jan
8 years ago
Reply to  Jim Fox

There is no evidence that there were religious motives though he was religious see my post above.

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago
Reply to  Exmoslim Jan

What? I replied to Wolf Paul- who RU??

Anyway the likelihood is as follows–
FrontPage Mag-

“Of course we don’t know at this stage know Alen Rizvanović’s motives, but his actions were very similar to Muslim terror attacks carried out in Israel, which also involved running people over and then getting out and stabbing them.

A Facebook account registered to a man of the same name also living in Austria suggests that the killer was a devout Muslim.

His favorite book appear to be Islamic texts. They include entries like Light of the Koran and the Hadiths of Mohammed.”

We will find out in due course- even while the greasy Islamophile media try to hide it.

lilyred
lilyred
8 years ago

Oh, let’s sugar coat it–psychotic, indeed.

Stephanie
Stephanie
8 years ago
Reply to  lilyred

0:35 min,

Federal director for secure Josef Klamminger, “… The motivation is still unknown–BUT is NOT connected in any way with FANATISM .. it is obviously about a PSYCHOSIS”

Yeah :-), a DEVOUT Muslim. “SLAY” for promised paradise, PSYCHOPATH#1 Q9:111

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt0R2d-Uwwk

Atikva
Atikva
8 years ago
Reply to  Stephanie

They are stuck with Eurabia and it’s too late now to escape from the fool’s bargain. For the past 40 years or so, the non-elected politicians of the EU have instructed the media, the education & justice systems in their respective countries to brainwash the public about islam’s cultural and intellectual superiority, tolerance, love of peace & democracy, practice of gender equality, and the muslims’ desire to befriend Europeans, etc..

“… the European Governments and politicians must prevent their media from denigrating muslims. They must reaffirm their confidence in the Euro-Arab friendship and the respect they feel for the many centuries of Arab contribution to the world civilization.” (Eurabia review # 2, July 1975 – my translation). Just one of hundreds of similar instructions issued by the EU.

On the other end, for over 40 years, muslims, whatever their particular brand, have worked overtime to prove that nothing of all that garbage is true. This new carnage is just another result of the whole nonsense, and the Austrian media, as usual, have no other alternative but to deny the obvious. The only question is: how long will it last?

donemyhomework
donemyhomework
8 years ago
Reply to  Atikva

They’re stuck in a lie, and the poor devils can’t stand, so they just try to lie out of it. Welcome to Austria, the new Syria.

Ban Liberals
Ban Liberals
8 years ago

Maybe if European liberals banned cars and knives this would never have happened.

Or, maybe if they hadn’t banned GUNS the crazy guy with the knife would have been the dead one.

Commieobamie
Commieobamie
8 years ago
Reply to  Ban Liberals

MORONS don’t need 470HP, but REAL AMERICANS do and like it, and KNOW how to safely drive it. So take your BAN FREEDOM and go to HELL.

Ban Liberals
Ban Liberals
8 years ago
Reply to  Commieobamie

Can you possibly be as dumb as you seem?

Are you that dense so as to not recognize sarcasm when you see and read it?

You are truly an idiot, and should be prohibited from writing about what and who a moron is.

SCREW SOCIALISM
SCREW SOCIALISM
8 years ago
Reply to  Ban Liberals

BDS Liberals AKBAR!

Mr Paul Middleton
Mr Paul Middleton
8 years ago
Reply to  Ban Liberals

Okay, if you don’t like dumb, try “dope” instead, because either one fits you. Why? Because your ‘post’ is nonsense in the sense that it’s out of context here in this article, a waste of space piece of egotism that dilutes Pamela’s good site and the excellent thoughtful on-topic posts from the diligent folk here. We’re here for a purpose if you didn’t notice, and it’s not to suffer rambling, unfocused drivel non-posts from stylistically challenged bigheads like you.
Get real – or get to Islamabad or Riyadh, you idiot.

Ban Liberals
Ban Liberals
8 years ago

Typical pontificating from an ass.

You do not get to decide what or who is out of place or where.

You do not get to decide what is acceptable and what is not.

You do not get to decide ANYTHING.

Collect your toys, pick up your marbles, and go back to the Islamic fascist world you crawled from, because your moronic outburst reeks from the very same ideology and iciocy Pamela is trying to stop.

When Pamela appoints you as a moderator, crawl back and tell me what is appropriate for HER SITE.

Until then, do everyone here a favor and quench yourself and disappear.

JT
JT
8 years ago
Reply to  Ban Liberals

there are more than plenty of islamic countries…

Mr Paul Middleton
Mr Paul Middleton
8 years ago
Reply to  Ban Liberals

WAAAA-AAAaaah-haaa-haa-ha,ha,ha! – You child.

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago
Reply to  Ban Liberals

The sarcasm is obvious. 9 dead people at that church is the latest proof of how useful guns are… then Sandy Hook, Columbine and hundreds of other ‘accidents’…
UNTIL America vets people properly to exclude nucking futters, guns should be restricted to military and police.
Mighty also be a good idea if Americans were taught to drive properly, too??
As to that Second Amendment, WHY is that part about ‘a well-regulated militia’ ignored by gun nuts?

Michael Copeland
Michael Copeland
8 years ago
Reply to  Jim Fox
Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago

Read CAREFULLY– “UNTIL America vets people properly” -and it applies not just to the USA obviously.
ALL gun owners must be fully trained and shoot on a range at least once a year, belong to a registered club for min 6 months, undergo psychiatric screening and examination of on line remarks. They must accept regular inspection of their firearms for safe storage and so on. NO military weapons [machine guns, sniper rifles, grenade launchers, etc allowed]. Not just guns but some knives and swords should be banned.
I am FOR self-defence with the proviso stated above. Although, on balance non lethal is better. That mace, pepper spray, batons, etc are illegal is a disgrace.

donemyhomework
donemyhomework
8 years ago
Reply to  Jim Fox

You’re way overboard and reactionary.

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago
Reply to  donemyhomework

In what way, exactly? Please explain…

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago
Reply to  donemyhomework

WTF is all that bumff?? You expect me to read all that raving? Really?
If you can’t make your point[s] concisely it means you are bloviating.

donemyhomework
donemyhomework
8 years ago
Reply to  Jim Fox

All of that reading, OMG. I’m done, I said is what I thought.

aebe
aebe
8 years ago
Reply to  Commieobamie

Ook . You’ll feel better if you make it right , though .

Atikva
Atikva
8 years ago
Reply to  Commieobamie

I think you missed the mark by a mile here.

aebe
aebe
8 years ago
Reply to  Ban Liberals

Yer gonna have us all drinking our beer from plastic bottles , so please take it easy with your sarcastifying . Yup
I once tried to buy a car that had room for a hundred and eighty mph on the speedometer , got outmoneyed , though .

Roger
Roger
8 years ago

How would you like to be a fly on the wall in the WH when it’s time for bed.

Obama WhoSane, I’m ready! Get in here!
I’m already in my sleeping bag, my beautiful, sweet, gorgeous, wonderful wife.
Don’t make come out in the hallway and get you! Get you ass in here and kiss mine!
I’m coming dear…

The worst case of Battered Husband Syndrome on record.

Mannly
Mannly
8 years ago

good thing they dis-armed the people… wouldn’t want the muselim-dogs to get shot while they kill women and children…. it would have taken just one armed person to put an end to the animal……

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago
Reply to  Mannly

Like the idiot at the church who just killed 9 praying people?

Mannly
Mannly
8 years ago
Reply to  Jim Fox

note the people in the church were UNARMED…

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago
Reply to  Mannly

So they got what they deserved- is that what you’re saying??

Joy Beum
Joy Beum
8 years ago
Reply to  Jim Fox

OMG! Go back to your ‘village’!

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago
Reply to  Joy Beum

There’s a well-thought-out reply from a critical thinker!

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago
Reply to  Jim Fox

This idiot would probably be a hero to many muslims in the Mid-East and N. Africa — where killing Christians isn’t a crime so much as a sport.

Joy Beum
Joy Beum
8 years ago
Reply to  Mannly

That is why we need to arm ourselves sufficiently so we are prepared for just this kind of thing to happen to us.

ThePleiades
ThePleiades
8 years ago

That’s the plan in the U.S. . Disarm Americans. Then this can happen here every day of the week.

JT
JT
8 years ago
Reply to  ThePleiades

and double times at ramadamadan!

Joy Beum
Joy Beum
8 years ago
Reply to  ThePleiades

Disarm Americans. Our second amendment assures us that we have the right to bear arms and that is what I will do until my weapon is pried from my cold, dead fingers. Stand firm.

ThePleiades
ThePleiades
8 years ago
Reply to  Joy Beum

I know what it ASSURES us but it is not a guarantee if Americans keep sleeping and become complacent.

Virginia Connor
Virginia Connor
8 years ago

There was a black crowd in Savannah, Ga. Attacking white tourists on River Street last year and all the news media said was that it was a mere brawl. 60 black teens went after a group of whites in Charleston, S.C. not too long ago before the attack on the Church. It’s not right what that boy did in that church, but could he have been reacting to that event? I wonder what the media would’ve said had he been a black Muslim? And I’ve heard about black Muslums casing out churches too, but nobody does anything about it.

Richard
Richard
8 years ago

But not only do we have Muslims following the teachings of the Quran and the life, example and sayings of Muhammad and killing “infidels”,, but we also have the press and the governments, who are supposed to protect the people, come out and say this has nothing to do with Islam and promote this vile ideology, after every vile murder committed by its followers, following it’s teachings.

“The driver — described as an Austrian citizen with SERBIAN ROOTS — has been arrested, officials said at a Saturday afternoon press conference.

The officials added that they don’t know the man’s motive but do not believe it has anything to do with terrorism.”

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/20/europe/austria-graz-car-hits-crowd/index.html

Betty4440
Betty4440
8 years ago
Reply to  Richard

YEA TRYING TO SAVE HIS OWN NECK BUT IT WANT LAST THEY WILL GET TO HIM SOONER OR LATER.

Betty4440
Betty4440
8 years ago
Reply to  Betty4440

AND ANOTHER THING THEY WILL MORE THAN LIKELY START TARGETING THE ONE’S IN OUR GOVERNMENT. WATCH AND SEE. I guess then they will take notice.

knight
knight
8 years ago
Reply to  Richard

Majority of reports clearly say Bosnian. Yours first to say Serbian.

Jeff Benton
Jeff Benton
8 years ago

Good thing Obama assured us all that these things dont happen in other countries huh…

Millionmileman
Millionmileman
8 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Benton

Right on! What was the Paris supermarket, chopped liver?

joker
joker
8 years ago

The Americans have set up Al-Qaeda, armed many Muhjadeen, helped Muslims in the Balkan and in away supplying arms to ISIS. On which side are our friends Americans?

Nina
Nina
8 years ago
Reply to  joker

Follow the money… and the liberal agenda…and the money…

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s;vbkr0boc,klos;
8 years ago

And so now they will talk about the ‘tragedy’ in Graz. It was NOT a tragedy it is called MURDER.

Joy Beum
Joy Beum
8 years ago

It is called TERRORISM!

Sam
Sam
8 years ago

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33211479

Here it is line-by-line, the FBI & Enemedia’s Ever Present muslim Terrorist Defense

Boilerplate Jihad Obfuscation: How to Enable and Protect the Jihad.

The Ever Present Essential Elements:

1) ‘Nothing to indicate [muslim] terrorism [again]’.

Line 1 from the BBC: “The driver has been arrested, though police say there were no indications the attack was motivated by terrorism.”

2) The always present ‘mental illness’ pre-defense.

Line 5 from the BBC: “Hermann Schuetzenhoefer told reporters that the suspect was a 26-year-old man who was “mentally unbalanced”.

3) The jihadist is never named.

BBC: Confirmed.

4) The words islam and jihad and muslim are never used.

BBC: Confirmed.

5) Even though the attack profile is EXACTLY what muslim terrorists called for in recent days, this is never mentioned.

BBC: Confirmed.

6) ‘unconfirmed’ reports this was a total jihad attack, followed with no explanation, possible motive or anything.

Last line from the BBC: “There are unconfirmed reports that after crashing the man left the vehicle and attacked people with a knife.”

Commieobamie
Commieobamie
8 years ago

Well, islamo moslim is a mental disease.

Gwen
Gwen
8 years ago

Happy Ramadan Austria. Gaze up at that new crescent moon and know who your masters are.

Homework: Why did the attack happen on Saturday?

Heltau
Heltau
8 years ago

I heard about this on the local “news”, NOT one thing said about name of perp, or gender, race, or what happened after with the stabbings. The “news” did say it was a “loner incident”,
After all that bs was said I KNEW it was islam at the attack.
how peacful is that.
plus it is rob-a-don time again.
as in rob you of your life infidel.

BT
BT
8 years ago

more of this scummy (typical) muslime behavior to come unless we start limiting how many can come to our country.. if it were up to me I’d get rid of EVERY last one of them.

Joy Beum
Joy Beum
8 years ago
Reply to  BT

So would I (get rid of every muslim in America), but obama keeps sneaking them in. Of course, he first creates a smokescreen (riots and looting) so everyone’s attention is diverted away from what his real objective is.

Rocinante44
Rocinante44
8 years ago

sad how the press, except for this website, refuses to use the adjective “muslim” when describing this killer and instead gives us his age, as if “26-year old” is the most important characteristic about this scum

JT
JT
8 years ago
Reply to  Rocinante44

Scums are for scums. Evidently.

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago
Reply to  JT

Scums are for scums- what are ‘scums’, please?
‘Evidently’??

Not to me.

Mike E
Mike E
8 years ago

Exactly my reaction. That’s the Bosnian Muslims we helped during the war against Christian Serbia. That’s the gratitude we get!
When will our ruling liberal-left groups grasp that, no matter what we do, the Muslims will always despise us? In their eyes, we will always be dirty infidels.

JT
JT
8 years ago
Reply to  Mike E

GET THIS !!
When you, as a filthy kuffar help muziz, they understand that “help” as an order by allah to advance muzulman interests.
Therefore it can not be even coincided as help.

Joy Beum
Joy Beum
8 years ago
Reply to  Mike E

A muslim is a muslim is a muslim. When the word is given here in America, they will attack en masse! No matter what we as a nation do FOR them, the outcome is the same. Stockpile ammo and keep ’em oiled!

ServosT
ServosT
8 years ago

The early story I read did not mention the fact that he was a mohammedian…but I kind of guessed.

John Urban
John Urban
8 years ago

Subdued and arrested? Why not subdued and KILLED? If I saw a man deliberately murder a 7-year old boy I do not think I COULD leave him alive.

knight
knight
8 years ago
Reply to  John Urban

Someone should have driven the car backwards and forwards over him a number of times so he knows what it feels like.

Arresting him he will be out in no time to do worse.

Sunflowers
Sunflowers
8 years ago

There has to be a lot more to this. He was Bosnian, was he Muslim? At Ramadan? Why doesn’t not ONE MSM report it? Who else drives their car very fast into innocents and come out stabbing people with a knife? MSM says he is crazy. Agreed. But is he Muslim?. What is his name?

Atikva
Atikva
8 years ago
Reply to  Sunflowers

If he weren’t, you’d know his name by now.

donemyhomework
donemyhomework
8 years ago
Reply to  Atikva

That is so sad but true.

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago
Reply to  Sunflowers

Is the Pope a Catholic? Do bears crap in the woods?

What is the statistical possibility that ROP is his motivation?

“What is his name?”– Might ‘Muhammad’ form part of it??

Atikva
Atikva
8 years ago
Reply to  Sunflowers

He has been identified locally as a devout Muslim, a Bosnian expatriate to Austria named Alen Rizvanović. On his facebook he posted his devotion to Allah, the coran, pushed readers to convert to islam and stated that America was Israel’s “bitch”.

Who else used the same method to kill “infidels”? The same kind of devout muslims in Dijon and Nantes, France, for instance, only 6 months ago, and currently almost every other week in Israel where, mercifully, they are promptly stopped by armed passers by.

conan_drum
conan_drum
8 years ago

Suffering from a mental illness, of course a mental illness called Islam. They are all mentally deranged. No sane people could do the things they do.

Wolf Paul
Wolf Paul
8 years ago

I find the headline of this piece and the tenor of most of the comments appalling. By all accounts this was the deed of a mentally deranged individual angry about his wife having left him after domestic violence, and had nothing to do with the man’s ethnic or religious background. It was therefore no more “jihad” than murders committed by a nominally Catholic or Protestant perpetrator would be a “crusade”.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago
Reply to  Wolf Paul

Please FO to a muslim state then, ANY muslim state.

Sergio Gutman
Sergio Gutman
8 years ago

“this is not a terrorist act”…??
THEY DESERVE MORE!!!!

knight
knight
8 years ago

Welcome Austria to the world of Mulims.

Bosnia, a world of troubles taken us to wars and death and still haunts us today.

Betty4440
Betty4440
8 years ago

it is always a mental problem and a lone wolf. when are suppose to leaders going to face facts. this is not the case. there is always one others behind what is taking place.it what the imams are calling for. ISIS is calling for. don’t come here. do you job where you are. the country you are in. use any thing to do the job even your car. run them over. GOD IN HEAVEN HAVE MERCY ON US.

meqmac
meqmac
8 years ago

You may be right, but I see no evidence yet that this man thought his actions were jihad-related. So far, we just don’t know. Jihad is one speculation, but insanity, provoication, etc. remain to be established or denied. We have a good case about the use of jihad in the West, but we should never be too hasty to reach conclusions. The nauthorities, of course, will do everything to treat this as the work of a crazed individual, but the killer is alive and, if his motive was jihad, he is highly likely to say so. If he does, or if the police find terrorist connections, then we can certainly expose this as a jihad attack. Let’s wait and see. And, yes, nemesis here is right to draw the Jerusalem link, a very likely inspiration.

knight
knight
8 years ago
Reply to  meqmac

Learn these words

Takiyya – dissimulation
Tawriya – concealing, creative lying
Kitman – part truth
Muruna – flexibility, to blend in with surrounding environment

http://www.islam-watch.org/home/139-louis-palme/1095-knowing-four-arabic-words-may-save-our-civilization-from-islamic-takeover.html

meqmac
meqmac
8 years ago
Reply to  knight

Dear knight, Please do not make assumptions. I am a former lecturer in Arabic at a British university, and I know a lot more words than you. (Oh, and I have a PhD in Persian, so kitman doesn’t bother me at all). My interest is in facts, not rash assumptions. It is highly unlikely that a Bosnian Muslim would use taqiyya/ketman (two words for the same thing). The Oxford Arabic-English dictinary gives muruna as ‘elasticity; flexibility, suppleness, resilience. This word has more in common with a rubber band tyhan it does with Islpamic practice. Taqiyya is a Shi’ite term. Bosnian Muslims are Sunnis. If your comments represents the level of your understanding of the world, it is quite pitiable. When I servedd as a magistrate, we never made a judgement until we had heard all the evidence. An assumption like yours would have disqualified me form the bench if contested. I am not a defender of Islam or Islamic practice, but I am a defender of truth and evidence, and I think the whole dfiscussion here is warped by a lack of those two things. If his motives become clear and jihad is stated, I will have no hesitration in using this incident when I next write about Islamic extremism.

knight
knight
8 years ago
Reply to  meqmac

Go and tell that to the dead people

meqmac
meqmac
8 years ago
Reply to  knight

What exactly does that mean? Let me repeat, there is as yet no evidence that the driver of the car killed as an act of jihad. People died in a car accident here in the UK today. Maybe it was jihad, most likely it was just an accident. What would it mean to tell them this was jihad? You skate on very thin ice. Opposition to Islam and jihadi actions has to come from a more articulate, intelligent and reasoned critique. You all expose yourselves to easy rebuttal and derision from Muslims and politicians. Study more, think more, and show that Western rationality trumps Islamic irrationality eveyr time. If you are irrational, you give ammunition to our enemies.

knight
knight
8 years ago
Reply to  meqmac

What is it when he jumps out of car and stabs people after continuing to drive his vehicle into people

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gJLeDHwMcRE

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago
Reply to  meqmac

Yes, but the Sunnis have a similar precept of lying — because your holy prophet himself encouraged one of his followers to lie to a Jewish man who was critical of moe-ham-head, in order to kill him. Please FOAD.

meqmac
meqmac
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

First of all, Mughammad is not ‘my prophet’. I am not a Muslim and am highly critical of Islam. Your leap to assumptions shows a real problem on your part to understand rational arguyment. I do not deny that some Sunni Muslims (and all the radicasls) will use obfuscation, but it is very different to the classical use of taqiyya by the Shi’i, who were forced to dissimulate because of Sunni persecution. As for calling Muhammad ‘moe-ham-head’, that is simply juvenile and pointless. If you can’t address Islamic issues in a coherent and reasoned fashion, you should steer clear of the subject, because people like you make life much harder for us who tackle these things in intellectual and political arenas.

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@:-}>...MoMeetsAisha
8 years ago
Reply to  meqmac

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck… its probably a duck.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/06/22/austria-car-attack-random-act-of-violence-or-planned-terrorist-attack/

Quack quack

Alissa
Alissa
8 years ago

Europe needs to: 1) stop immigration; 2) launch a massive deportation campaign of anyone (and their immediate family) who commit crimes of any description from shoplifting to murder and anyone who does not hold down a full time job supporting all their dependents 3) then turn their focus on eliminating ALL muslim brotherhood activities.

JT
JT
8 years ago
Reply to  Alissa

BRAVO! but it is getting boring to read this so many million times…
SEND IT TO THE EU !!!

aebe
aebe
8 years ago

Build a high wall around Saudi Arabia , and just start tossing in terrorists . That’ll work

Validate your 2nd Amendment Rights . Carry

Leclem
Leclem
8 years ago

Many of those “incidents” happened in France in December, most of them depicted as “unrelated accidental loss of the control”.
The censorship is strong in this country…

Michael Copeland
Michael Copeland
8 years ago

The Austrian police have been quick to blame mental problems of the driver, someone apparently prone to violence. Yet he was working as a professional driver. Do Austrian licensing authorities have no oversight of professional drivers?

Atikva
Atikva
8 years ago

The number of “deranged, lone assassins” is growing every day in Europe. The victims may thank the EU politicians, these non-elected “officials” in a so-called democracy, for creating Eurabia some 40 years ago behind their backs and relentlessly pursuing their hidden islamo-socialist agenda ever since.

What did these weasels get for surrendering to the islamists and creating the largest intoxication system ever concocted in Western Europe? They got oil, which they could have gotten anyway without abasing themselves and endangering the future of the European populations. They also have gained the distrust and contempt of the populations subjected to the same terror attacks as the rest of the world, who now find themselves defenseless, invaded by a hateful enemy who doesn’t bother to hide its supremacist goal.

Globe Warmer
Globe Warmer
8 years ago

Of Course, Islam is a “mental illness”. They authorities have it right. Mental illnesses can cause people to terrorize other people. Mohammad is a good example of a person with a mental illness. Of course, “Demon Possession” is a form of mental illness too.

Michael Copeland
Michael Copeland
8 years ago
Reply to  Globe Warmer

“Indeed he is mad!”
“Surely he is possessed!”
“He is certainly insane.”
“Verily, he is a madman!”

That is what the people who knew Mohammed best said about him.
All quoted from approved translations of Koran 68:51
http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=68&verse=51

san
san
8 years ago

Why the world tolerates such nuisance cult??

Lia
Lia
8 years ago

Is there a difference between a psychotic & a devout muslim?

mezcukor
mezcukor
8 years ago

A deranged man? Yes a crazy Muslim an a fanatic. Islam is really a rotten disease.

JT
JT
8 years ago

The EU messes deserve this.
Why are not revolting in unison against the EU dictators, and sweep them away.

rightrightright
rightrightright
8 years ago

The UK press reported (with a photo of a Moslem hijab-wearing female) on a victim of this guy, without any description of the offender, thus implying he was a non-Moslem.

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Don't buy barbaric halal food
8 years ago

The BBC reported it as “not a terrorist incident” no mention of the stabbing afterwards and needless to say, no mention of the word muslim

Michael Copeland
Michael Copeland
8 years ago

They and others are quick to report “not a terrorist incident”.
How do they know?

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago

wtfdtm?

Joy Beum
Joy Beum
8 years ago

…stabbed a seven year old boy. That says it all. They have no humanity, no civility, no reasoning skills, no intelligence. They’re stuck in the past living in the sand in squalor and thinking they have a future in ‘heaven’. They have a future…you know where.

Exmoslim Jan
Exmoslim Jan
8 years ago

Austrian newspapers write that the man had a history of domestic violence. One of the reasons that he beat the shit out of his wife was, …. You can guess it already …. to force her to wear the headscarf. Surprise !!!!

Michael Copeland
Michael Copeland
8 years ago
Reply to  Exmoslim Jan

As also did Tamerlan Tsarnaev, Boston Marathon bomber, for which he had a criminal record.

Michael Copeland
Michael Copeland
8 years ago

“official responses to terrorist attacks that become progressively less reality-based” is one of the forecasts in Stephen Coughlin’s warning book “To Our Great Detriment – Ignoring What Extremists Say About Jihad”.

This is what is happening here.
Even before the blood is dry on the pavement the official line is “This is not terrorism”. Instead it is “mental illness”, of someone with domestic troubles, who just happened to be carrying a stabbing knife in the car, and happened to copy what was done to soldier Lee Rigby, and who happens to be a muslim.

There will be more of these incidents.

Soon they will be blamed on Global Warming.

Coughlin cites this quote in “The Red Pill” Part X, at 10.00 min
http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/06/stephen-coughlin-part-10-of-the-red-pill-briefing-the-endgame-of-interfaith

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8 years ago

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@:-}>...MoMeetsAisha
@:-}>...MoMeetsAisha
8 years ago

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck… its probably a duck.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/06/22/austria-car-attack-random-act-of-violence-or-planned-terrorist-attack/

Quack quack

Michelle
Michelle
8 years ago

This is. just excuses for a cover up when are people going to wake up and see through the lies of Islamophobia to let them attack us and get away with it being a single jihad wolf in sheep clothing feigning mental illness instead of jihad which equates to kill the kuffars wherever you find them as is written in the quran. The authorities should have a list of every one of them and make it clear to take them out before citizens are attacked and its a shame cos I’ve been shown care from my pious neighbours who want to live in peace but the other side of me the drug dealers car parks outside my house knowing I’ve carers coming and going and mymum too but that’s the bad lot for you and racism in reverse don’t count

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