[ April 19, 2024 ]
Here is a good summary of the unconscionable inversion of the leftist media’s reaction to the jihad attack at the AFDI/Jihad Watch Muhammad Art Exhibit and Cartoon Contest.
“Why Won’t Pamela Geller Shut Up?,” by Rich Lowry, Politico, May 6, 2015:
Story continues below advertisementHow dare Pamela Geller get targeted by terrorists bent on committing mass murder.
That’s been the reaction of a portion of the opinion elite to news that Geller’s “draw Muhammad” contest in Garland, Texas, was (unsuccessfully) assaulted by two heavily armed Muslim men in an attack the Islamic State took responsibility for.
The Washington Post ran an article on Geller headlined, “Event organizer offers no apology after thwarted attack in Texas.”
News that the Post has yet to break about other terrorist targets: “Malala Yousafzai refuses to admit fault for seeking an education”; “Coptic Christians won’t concede error for worshiping wrong God”; “Unrepentant Shiites continue to disagree with Sunnis.”
Yes, these are more sympathetic cases, but it is no more legitimate to shoot someone for drawing Muhammad, than it is to shoot a girl for going to school, or a Copt or a Shia for his or her faith. Expecting apologies from these victims would be almost as perverse as expecting one from Pamela Geller.
Respectable opinion can’t bear the idea that she has become a symbol of free speech, which once upon a time was — and still is, when convenient — one of the highest values of the media and the left.
If Geller were a groundbreaking pornographer like the loathsome Larry Flynt, someone would already be planning a celebratory biopic of her life. If she were a gadfly sticking it to a major Western religion rather than to Islam, she might be considered more socially acceptable.
Instead, her provocations are deemed almost as shameful as the intentions of the men who wanted to kill her and her cohorts.
To say the reaction to Garland has been confused is charitable. On “Hardball,” NBC terrorism analyst Evan Kohlmann descended into a morass of contradictory clichés when discussing Garland. He said Geller and her ilk are “trying to provoke a response from the Muslim community, and unfortunately, this was predictable.”
Then he maintained that the ensuing inevitable attack from the sorely provoked Muslim community had “nothing to do with Islam.” The perpetrators and supporters of the attack would beg to differ, but what do they know? They aren’t terrorism analysts on a broadcast TV network.
Linda Stasi wrote a column for the New York Daily News titled, “With Pamela Geller’s Prophet Muhammad cartoon stunt in Texas, hate rears its ugly face again.” The hatred referred to wasn’t that of the attackers who wanted to murder people for attending an uncongenial art contest but of Geller.
In perhaps the most obtuse and least grammatical sentiment committed to print in the aftermath of Garland, Stasi argued that “Geller, like ISIS and al Qaeda, revel [sic] in hate…”
This is a little like saying that the Finns and the Red Army both reveled in shooting guns during the Winter War, without taking account of who invaded and occupied whom. Geller holds events and writes blog posts deemed offensive by many, all of which are fully protected by our laws. ISIL beheads people and blows them up, all of which is criminal by any civilized standard.
“While we have freedom of speech,” Stasi continued, “we also have freedom of religion, which shouldn’t be impinged upon.” This is both a truism and a non sequitur: Tasteless speech doesn’t impinge upon anyone’s freedom of conscience or religion. The glory of the First Amendment is that it guarantees freedom of both speech and worship.
Taking a similar tack in a piece on CNN’s website, Haroon Moghul said Geller is “using one democratic value to subvert other democratic values,” namely by polarizing America and alienating Muslims.
Yet scurrilous, scatological and, yes, hateful speech and cartoons — many of them involving religion — have featured in Anglo-American history going back centuries. They are part of the warp and woof of a free society. In this context, a drawing of Muhammad is mild.
The only reason it seems different is that there is a small class of Muslim radicals willing to kill over it. Which is exactly why Pamela Geller’s event wasn’t purposeless.
The event was placing a stake in contested ground, in a way it wouldn’t have if it had offended Quakers or Roman Catholics, who don’t massacre people who insult them. It was a statement of defiance, of an unwillingness to abide by the rules of fanatics.
“I feel that sometimes Muslims in America have become the last group in which public officials, organizations and others are allowed to publicly demean, ridicule this group, in ways we don’t do it with other groups per se,” NBC reporter Ayman Mohyeldin opined the other day.
What country does he live in? The new atheists merrily deride Christianity with no worries for their health or safety. Meanwhile, cartoonists who draw Muhammad have to go into hiding. Even the otherwise fearless “South Park” has had to back off, because no one wants to get threatened or killed.
For better or worse, we live in a society in which nothing is sacred. If we are to accept the assassin’s veto, the only exception (for now) will be depictions of Muhammad, which would be perverse. A free society can’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous extremists.
Give her this: Pamela Geller understands that, whereas her scolds don’t. Some of them can’t even tell the difference between her and her would-be killers.
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182 Comments
8 years ago
where can we see the cartoons?
8 years ago
Reply to
El Cid
http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/AFDIMotoons/library/AFDI%20Motoon%20Contest had them yesterday but now returns an error page.
8 years ago
Oh look Bill O’Reilly, Laura Ingraham, Donald Trump, Greta Van Susteren, Martha Maccallum the new sharia law enforcers. Did I miss anyone?…
8 years ago
Reply to
GOUSA1
Nice cartoon and flag. Both right on the money. 🙂
It’s been obvious for a long time that Bill O’Reilly is a libtard. But what did Laura and Greta do?
8 years ago
Reply to
Mark Phukerberg
If URL isn’t visible, google this title: (from Fox News) – it’s a 1 minute video:
“Greta: Exercising our first amendment rights also means using good judgment”
8 years ago
Reply to
Mark Phukerberg
I just reread the Bill Of Rights, I saw nothing in it that said a word about “using good judgment”. Greta, perhaps you are in the wrong line of work.
8 years ago
Reply to
TheLight
I’ve met and worked for attorney’s that couldn’t understand how a screw holds something together. They memorize crap and thus pass the bar. Doesn’t mean they have reasoning skills.
8 years ago
Reply to
H. Mueller
http://genealogyreligion.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Xenu2.jpg
She’s a Scientologist … I think she is now so “clear” that you can look right through her brain!
8 years ago
Reply to
Darrell Standing
Greta is a Scientologist? (love the fact that auto correct shows the word “scientologist” as being mispelled) I did not know that, it does explain a lot. Clearly, full conservatism skips a generation, Joseph McCarthy was best man at Greta Van Susteren’s parents’ wedding. I wrongly assumed she’d be a champion of freedom and free speech because that family background but she’s proof that’s not always the case. Afterall, Hillary’s parents were Republicans and they spawned a beast.
8 years ago
Reply to
H. Mueller
Greta should spend class time with Megyn Kelly. Obviously, Kelly is the more intelligent.
8 years ago
Reply to
Mark Phukerberg
It’s just the inner white apologist coming out. 95% of the time Greta is right on.
8 years ago
Reply to
Mark Phukerberg
Good judgement is telling the truth,something a Muslim has difficulty doing because thier deeds are evil,therefore they like to conceal the trith of their ideology.
8 years ago
Reply to
Mark Phukerberg
Obviously Trump is unaware millions of Americans believed he was provocative when he went around the country and on TV insinuating Obama’s birth certificate was fraudulent.
8 years ago
Reply to
Obama bin Laden
Laura and Greta they say they support freedom of speech but then they say but http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fox-news-personalities-get-behind-i-support-free-speech-but/article/2564104
8 years ago
Reply to
Obama bin Laden
Greta, Laura, Martha MacCallum, Juan Williams, Geraldo Rivera – all confirmed their fear of irritating Muslims; thus, all confirmed they are already Sharia compliant.
8 years ago
Reply to
Kathleen3
Which means that those of the news media as well as the politicians all the way down to school administrators like at our colleges are cowards. The politicians I can understand, they get money and Muslim “block vote” promises. Kind of reminds you of the “Boss Tweed” and “Tammany Hall Machine” As a matter of fact, the importation of Muslims are exactly like Tammany Hall. Funny how history repeats itself. Kind of like the cartoon in the L.A. Free Press of a very large revolver pointed at you and all of the bullets had the picture of a Presidential hopeful on them and you knew that regardless of what happened…you were still going to get shot.
8 years ago
Reply to
donemyhomework
Great analogies! We are told that we have to hit rock bottom before we start back up…” If this is not rock bottom then we are going down a well that has no floor. I have to stay optimistic. To choose otherwise would necessitate registering as a Democrat.
8 years ago
Reply to
GOUSA1
They have started islaming to sharia law and the terrorists who enforce it.
8 years ago
Reply to
Nimrod
The United States and its citizens are being informed by a cowardly media what do yellow bellied reporters eat? their breath smells a lot like bull shit.
8 years ago
Reply to
GOUSA1
I wonder how long Megan Kelley Fox News lone survivor in defense of Pamela Geller, will hold out amongst the crowd of Catholics!
8 years ago
Reply to
Calvin Wynn
Was never a fan of Megyn Kelly’s – until this Garland fiasco. Apparently Kelly and Hannity are the only two at Fox who possess spines and patriotism.
8 years ago
has anyone noticed the stupid bitch in orange wears her hair like a niqab…looks just like a niqab.
8 years ago
Because she’s a dumb b!t*h. She’s not done stealing money from conservative tool smokers. She thinks if conservative sausage lickers will donate a million dollars to some crap pizza place in Indiana. Dam! I can steal a lot more from these redneck Christian idiots. Keep writing them checks Ricky Bobby.
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
Did they let you out the asylum for the severe mentally challenged… again!!!!
8 years ago
Reply to
Tatonka
Hey Buffalo boy, Nambla is missing there most prolific pedophile. Please come back. Ted Cruz misses his butt buddy.
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
Does NAMBLA have any charter offices in musswein states? They should really have one in Iran catering to the Bacha Bazi crowd.
8 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Tranny I know your into Iranian men, but what the hell is Bacha Bazi.
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
We know your childhood was spent dancing for the bearded buffoons, while wearing makeup and womens’ clothing. Don’t try to deny it now!
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
I assume that you are talking abut Pamela Geller. I would submit that she is far from a “dumb b!t*h” as you say. I would also submit that she is probably 3 or 4 standard deviations above you on the IQ scale.
8 years ago
Reply to
H. Mueller
I hope the money she raised on this publicity stunt was worth it. Not so smart to offend the radical portion of a religion with millions of people. Theres not a day that goes by that Salmon Rushdee doesn’t look over his shoulder. Keep trucking hate filled Christians and Jews.
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
Of course not. The contributions to an event like that never cover the costs. Therefore, support the cause and invest in your future and your freedom: donate!
8 years ago
Reply to
Warren Raymond
Good for her. If the dingleberries down in Texas want to support this worthless and ridiculous conservative cause. Steal there money my good conservative.
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
Its even less smart to allow a radicalized portion of any group intimidate you and make you so fearfull you denigh yourself the exercise of your liberty and freedom.This and appeasement only emboldens them and makes the even more dangerous.People need to decide if they are going to stand up for themselves or live like a frightened rabbit.
8 years ago
Reply to
Donald Howard
Never been scared of Muslims in this country. Only the conservative sheep are worried and frightened by Islam.
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
Too bad you weren’t above the 75th floor in either WTC tower on 9-11-2001.
8 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Can you prove those where Muslims. I know they were Saudi Arabian. Maybe we should be pissed at them.
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
Can you prove they were NOT Muslims???
They were perceived as Muslims. By a lot of cheering other Muslims!
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
//”Not so smart to offend the radical portion of a religion with millions of people. “//
Not A RELIGION or ANY RELIGION, just one; Islam!
So do you think, since lucrative, fun and totally without risk, it is “smarter” to give offense to all the other big religions and their harmless followers???
If that is what you think, and you are right about it, then the Islamic terrorist killers were quite successful!!! And motivated to continue with their succesful strategy! That will cost more lives, not less.
Not so smart from you not to see this.
8 years ago
Reply to
Demsci
Let’s stay out of the Middle East. The bible is crap just like the Koran. Christians are some of the biggest scumbags and killers.
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
Hey Achmed, stick yer threats back up yer ass where they came from. BTW, yer prophets ain’t nuthin’ but shit and neither are you.
8 years ago
Reply to
Andy_Lewis
Hey Andy, I know your an imbreed from down south. One of those closet homos who loves Jesus but feels guilty when enjoying your boyfriends chubby. Your repulsive to the most radical Achmed.
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
Look, realvoice,
What if 2 teams played soccer, but it was told to the players of one team that if they scored against the other team, the goalscorer would be killed.
And then the intimidated team was very afraid to score.
And the other team would win.
Is THAT how Muslims want Islam to win?
Because all religions get humiliated, ridiculed, “scored against” with no threats, violence in response from any of their followers. Muslims too humiliate, ridicule, “score against” other religions, groups especially the Jews, Americans.
But some Muslims also kill, threathen and deter would-be-critics to humiliate, ridicule, “score against” Islam.
And so this is done much less as a result to Islam by those who would like to do it and otherwise would do it.
And because of this Islam prophits and since all Muslims love Islam more than life or at least above all else, all Muslims prophit if Islam prophits.
8 years ago
Reply to
Demsci
This sounds like a dilusional Christian. Scared of there own shadow. Put the remote down and turn off Fox News you crazy.
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
Whaaaaaat ?! Are you making sense to yourself ? Dude, see a medical practioner quickly if you are….or if you aren’t .
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
Yeah, Pamela figured the best way to make money was to put a big target on her back for the 25% of the 1.5 Billion muslims (you know, the radical ones) to zero in on.
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
I hope that you are right and that it will become as lucrative as you say to antagonize Muslims. Who then still only get their feelings hurt, like we all do, and not their bodies hurt or their rights diminished.
That way the Unfair advantage that Islam and Muslims gained when 2 clearly Islamic gunmen killed 12 cartoonists, effectively curtailing “negative reactions to Islam” in that way.
even if it was unfair what Pam did (which it was not) it only balanced a little bit the totally false play of the Muslims.
And you, we all, should have the same expectations of Pam Geller and Muslims, not different ones. And just as the Islamic gunmen were only part of the Muslims, so Pam Geller and friends are only part of the Westerners.
8 years ago
Well done Pamela. Your cartoon event was a huge success. In spite of your abominable treatment by apologists, you are a shining star in several outlets as an exemplar for free speech and against Islamic intimidation.
This is an excellent article by Rick Lowry. I went to the Politico site of that article to give personal praise, and I found that some spammers are using denial of service. Up to 10,000 comments now. Ugh.
Below is another rational blog by a legal analyst, Eugene Volokh, where you and the need for your and the cartoonists’ free-speech are praised.
8 years ago
Reply to
Concerned
Frank Parry also submitted a great commentary that is published in the 05.07.15 Philadelphia Inquirer.
8 years ago
Stop Offending Lions isis!
8 years ago
Hear the excellent defense of this cartoon contest by Constitutional Prof. Eugene Volokh at the Washington Post.
He says when it’s demanded, even with threats, to cease an exercise of your Constitutional right of free speech then there’s essentially an obligation to exercise it in defiance. IMO its too bad Bill O’Reilly, Laura Ingraham, Donald Trump, Greta Van Susteren, and Martha Maccallum are not patriotic enough to grasp this.
8 years ago
As for the question “Why won’t Pamela Geller shut up? ” The answer should be clear. It’s because he is a brave and courageous woman who stand’s up for the truth .Likewise , she has much conviction and fortitude in her righteous cause. This grand character trait may be explained by none other then Thomas Jefferson. For Mr. Jefferson had stated “A conviction that we are in the right accomplishes half the difficulty of correction wrong.” and “Fortitude…teaches us to meet and surmount difficulties; not to fly from them.” Furthermore, the other wise words of his ,very much, apply to this subject. For Mr. Jefferson had declared “Our part then is to pursue with steadiness what is right…assured that the public approbation will in the end be with us.”
8 years ago
I sent this email to, Cleric Anjem Choudary.
“Islam tells nothing but lies about the Lord
Jesus Christ. I tell the truth about were Islam’s lies come from. Satan shit
the Quran and all Islam from his own shitting hole. All Islam is lies,
thievery, and murder. Muhammad and all Muslims are Satan’s flies coming from
his shitting hole to spread Satan’s lies all over the world. Anyone who
respects lies is cursed, Galatians 1:6-8. I will tell the truth regardless
whether the government protects my freedom of speech, or not. If you do not
want to stop Muslims from killing me, then don’t. Are you worried about dying
for my freedom of speech, stay out of the way and shut up. I am more than
willing to die for the Lord Jesus Christ, and you so-called conservatives who
are scared by that, get out of my way. ALLAH IS SATAN AND SATAN IS ALLAH.
Muhammad and all Muslims are born from his shitting hole BECAUSE; Satan is the
father of lies. Who can dispute the history of Muslims’ love for lies, stealing
what never belonged to them, and even killing non-Muslims who will not join in
their abominations. Muhammad’s pisser was long for little girls as well as
pigs, goats, and dogs. Muslims do it with demons. Cursed is everyone who
blesses Islam. GOD will most certainly hand you over into Islam’s ‘mercy’ and
you will go to Hell together with them.”
8 years ago
Reply to
Daniel Barbour
Musslims are the stolen souls, lead by satan and its demon, to commit or support the most heinous of sins imaginable.
It is sad that humans can become hosts of such evil.
8 years ago
I’m surprised Lowry wrote this article. At National Review Online on Monday he took a dig at you before defending your right to free speech.
8 years ago
Reply to
vlparker
Lowry is a CINO and a RINO. All the conservative strongholds of the past have been infiltrated by leftists, posing as conservatives (or Republicans), just like our Mr Lowry here.
8 years ago
Reply to
JewJew Beans
I miss Bill Buckley and his anti-Prohibitionist screeds. But evidently some Christians are taking up his mantle. In Texas.
8 years ago
Reply to
M. Simon
So let me get this straight, is your issue with Christians or Buckley?
8 years ago
Reply to
JewJew Beans
I miss Buckley. And Christians who object to plants should take it up with The Maker. Evidently the Pope thinks some medicinal plants should be outlawed. He is against healing the sick with those plants on moral grounds. Too funny coming from a “Christian” don’t you think?
BTW you should look at the link. It is about Texas.
8 years ago
Reply to
M. Simon
You, like so many others, incorrectly assume that being a “Christian” (to use your choice) means being perfect. It is the furthest from the truth. True faith is not about perfection and I’d love to go further with you but, unfortunately, I am dealing with a migraine. And I do miss Buckley too. He was a voice of reason and truth and courage, very much like our Ms. Geller.
8 years ago
It seems the wish for dhimmitude is contagious among the media, even fox news is now infected.
Where will it end!!!!
8 years ago
Here is a link to an exceptionally stupid article in Salon by an exceptionally stupid left-wing apologist, Sophia A. McClennen:
http://www.salon.com/2015/05/06/pamela_gellers_south_park_idiocy_satire_hatred_and_the_rights_faith_based_fear_mongering/
The interesting thing is not the garbage article, which you should read anyway, but the reader comments to it. I would guess that 80% of the comments are supporting you, Pamela, and providing reasonable arguments in favor of free speech and against McClennen. I have been putting in my two cents for over a day. Others here might want to do the same.
I think that this is such an important issue. I am on the watch for opportunities to beat down the left wing opposition.
8 years ago
Reply to
Concerned
I think that America may have turned the corner, thanks to Pam Geller.
8 years ago
Reply to
Concerned
There are only 4 explanations for pro-iSSlam bias:
1_ You are a musslim and have no choice but to support isslam or die and/or refuses to question iSSlam
2_ You are recipient of musslim money and have to bias your agenda in their favor
3_ Uninformed or misinformed.
4_ Fear
8 years ago
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/
The fine line debate?
The line has already been defined long ago. It is where a victim of “free speech” can prove in open court he/she suffered real personal damage: for instance financial loss, reputation damage, psychological pain (in the case of a bullied child and responsible adults failed to intervene for example) etc.
This “free speech” is called slander if i am not mistaken and is a punishable offence.
In the case of muslims being offended by free speech from Pamala Geller, Robert Spencer, David Wood and many others the psycho-pain is real as i explain on my website http://members.ziggo.nl/iiat/ . However i dare our muslim, CAIR, jihading friends to call me as an expert witness in open court (a court in the still free world of course). I testify the pain is real and provide the court with arguments.
I don’t think they will dare to do that because they fear my testimony might backfire. Who conditioned children, using innate fear reflexes like the fear of abandonment, in the first place?
I must admit the jihadist tactics are working. I am scared and hide behind my warlike shield https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 .
However when the possible gain is worth the risk i will stick my neck out (pardon my dutch).
Greetings from the netherlands,
I Iat
8 years ago
Reply to
I Iat
The dumb CNN bitch in the orange top has an expression on her face that shows hostility mixed with simple minded incompetence. Pam Geller as usual, has an expression of high intelligence, coupled with a tiredness from suffering fools.
8 years ago
Keep up the good work, Ma’aam! The true picture of Islam comes to the forefront as it confronts freedom!
8 years ago
Caliphate enablers are upset because Pam’s stance and comments have shown the world what islam is really about — totalitarianism!
Useful to see many so-called patriotic ‘conservatives” aiding and abetting the
caliphate crusaders. Always have concerns about the spinless Leprechaun. I
recall when he and Medved used to get irate if someone identified sultan Barry as a mere socialist! If only that was the limit of his evil! Laura Ingraham was more of a surprise! Donald Trump stuck both feet and his hairpiece into his big mouth!
El Blimpo might respond by appointing more sharia judges! Waiting to see Saudi-bought Jeb weigh in …..
8 years ago
If you were to ask people in Garland, TX if they recognize ISIS or other Muslim terrorist groups as their legitimate government, they would say no.
A) If you were to suggest than an illegal operation of some sort, illegal according to federal or state law, be conducted in Garland, TX you would get objections. Not just because it’s illegal, but because federal SWAT teams might descend on the operation and might end up shooting people etc. It makes sense for people to object to such an operation because they do recognize the governments involved as legitimate and wouldn’t want to be affected by the associated enforcement action.
B) If you suggest that a Mohammed art contest be conducted in Garland, TX, illegal according to sharia law, enforcers from terrorist groups such as ISIS, or lone wolf devout Muslims may show up to enforce sharia law by killing many people. Some people in Garland, TX would object to this violation of sharia law because some sort of volunteer sharia law enforcement might show up to enforce sharia law by trying to kill people.
So what exactly is the difference between A and B? In both cases, a government or would-be government is able to enforce their authority over people if they submit, or (in Arabic) islam.
So are Americans going to islam to case B and effectively declare ISIS/Islam to be a de facto government with authority over them? I guess we will find out as more of these Mohammed art contests are organized.
Stop the islaming! Refuse to islam to terrorists!
8 years ago
Holder was right, we are a nation of cowards. Unfortunately for him, it’s his side of politics…the political correct, race baiting free loaders that are the true anti-American cowards. Long live the Constitution and long live Pamela Geller!
8 years ago
Sharia law says death to those who attempt to convert musies to another Religion. Christians believe they must win souls to Jesus/ convert the nonbeliever. When the Christians have a revival to convert the musies will that be too provocative too ?
8 years ago
Reply to
Janette Miller
Everything non Islamic is provocative…Even dancing is punishable by death! If we cave to this loss of freedom of expression then what is next? We cannot ever cave in to any of their demands…EVER!!
8 years ago
Dear Pamela, My blood in America goes back to the American Revolution and further. My bloodline has come thru every war that America has fought for the rights we share under our Constitution. My sons have also served to fight for this freedom. So on behalf of the blood of my ancestors, my grandfathers, father, brother and sons, I say “Speak freely, Pamela, with our blessings”.
8 years ago
Reply to
Cheryl Traines
Thanks. But more than the Blessings of ancestors Americans of today need courage. Because it is always up to this generation to stand up for Liberty.
M. Simon – Naval Nuke ’66
8 years ago
Reply to
M. Simon
Deuteronomy 31:6 (CJB) Be strong, be bold, don’t be afraid or frightened of them, for ADONAI your God is going with you. He will neither fail you nor abandon you.”
We will defeat this enemy but only if we follow His teachings!
8 years ago
Reply to
Cheryl Traines
That’s the beautiful thing about the first amendment. It protects stupidity too…
8 years ago
“Why won’t Pamela Geller shut up? ”
Because she doesn’t have to………..nor do we want her to
8 years ago
Reply to
KJB
Wonder how many millions said the same about that activist Martin Luther King?
8 years ago
Politico .. Pamela Geller won’t shut up; because she has the same freedom of speech as every one else.
You don’t like it? Tough.
8 years ago
Damn those pesky black people in 1950s Selma, Alabama. How dare they incite white racists to violence.
8 years ago
Why should she ? These are uncomfortable and inconvenient truths , but they are truths. Not sexy stuff , we know, but neither are kidnapped women forced in sexual slavery ( Nigeria , present day ) or mass graves of Christians and Yazidi’s ( Syria and Iraq, present day ) or genital mutilations ( in many countries, present day) …need I go on ?
8 years ago
Pamela Geller – please don’t ever shut up! You’re speaking for the masses in the country and standing up for freedom of speech. Stay strong, you have many supporters!
8 years ago
Reply to
we're all equal
She’s not standing up for free speech, she’s standing up for the Muslim haters and TRYING to start trouble!
8 years ago
Reply to
dantheshoeman
When the muslims come to you and ask you to Convert, Submit or Die, it would be a good idea to have thought out your answer beforehand.
8 years ago
Reply to
dantheshoeman
In case you had not noticed, TROUBLE is already here, it began fourteen centuries ago. Pam is just pointing it out in such a way that it is impossible to ignore. She isn’t going to back down, shut up, convert or apologize for her honesty and she NEVER should. She is a magnificent example of bravery, and perseverance, in the face of anything that her adversaries throw at her. She has more backbone than all of our presidents combined in addressing this issue. Now, please run along and go crawl back into your sleeper cell or whatever gutter you just crawled out of.
8 years ago
Reply to
dantheshoeman
As far as trying to start trouble, you must have missed the part where freedom of speech in US is guaranteed to everyone. If you don’t like what she says then change the channel, no-one is forcing you to listen to her. As far as the rest of us, we admire her courage for standing up to those who are hell bent on destroying everything that America stands for.
8 years ago
Reply to
dantheshoeman
You are at best a useful idiot. Go ahead and research what tyrants, despots, psychos, and Commies do with their useful idiots when they are done with them.
8 years ago
Reply to
H. Mueller
Great point…sad but true her head will be kicked around like a soccer ball while we will still be fighting for our freedoms…Amen
8 years ago
Reply to
dantheshoeman
What are you some kind of troublesome troll? Its a slippery slope. Just recently several people in Pakistan were killed for clapping and dancing at a wedding because it is against sharia law. Its a slippery slope don’t you know. If we cave to this then what will be next in order to not offend the Muslims. Look our existence is offensive to them. It take very little to set them off into a murderous rampage and killing spree! Islam IS THE PROBLEM!!!GET IT??
8 years ago
Reply to
dantheshoeman
You either stand against a bully or be a coward who always gets bullied
8 years ago
Donald Trump is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! Ms Geller you antagonize these folks and then blame them for wanting to kill you. You can’t yell “FIRE” in a crowded theater and not expect repercussions. I’m also still not sure that those two “jihadists” weren’t hired by you because you knew that the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR)called ALL their members and told them NOT to show up and protest and then amazingly at the end of the debacle in the building all of a sudden these 2 jamochs show up guns a blazin’. It reeks of a set up!
8 years ago
Reply to
dantheshoeman
Any chance these two dead muslims weren’t members of CAIR? Naw, they must have been TEA Partiers who were willing to commit suicide to further Geller’s career.
8 years ago
Reply to
dantheshoeman
Donald Trump and you have elevated demands and expectations of Western Democratic Citizens, like Pamela Geller, in that you demand and expect THEM to NOT be antagonistic and provocative.
And you both have lowered demands and expectations from
– a part of Muslims, for not provoking Democratic Citizens by killing 12 Charlie Hebdo-cartoonists. And all the other killings by “extremist Muslims”.
– Muslims to behave exactly like the followers of all other religions.
– Muslims here but especially in Islamic countries antagonizing Jews, Westerners, Americans a LOT, MORE. But not a peep from Trump about that.
– Muslims that ONLY look at the “negative reaction to Islam” and not to all the “positive reactions to Islam + Muslims” that exist also, in abundance, so not to the balance of how Westerners respond to Islam and Muslims.
You both clearly have double standards!
8 years ago
That’s from POLITICO? It took a long time, but it seems to slowly sink in.
8 years ago
Reply to
Warren Raymond
Warren I am not afraid of Islamic people. I have several working for me and AFDI locals were in front of one of my restaurants, that is, until the cops came.
8 years ago
Reply to
dantheshoeman
Next time you comment, please mention the name of the restaurant(s).
8 years ago
By the way, how many of you nut jobs are defenders of “religious freedom”? What about Muslim “religious freedom”? Or is that only for Christians?
8 years ago
Reply to
dantheshoeman
Izlamic-nazi “religious freedom” frequently comes at the expense of everyone not a musswein. Stick that up your bunghole the next time you’re raising your arse for allah.
8 years ago
Reply to
dantheshoeman
Islam is not a religion. It is maybe 1/3 religion and 2/3 political (sharia, subversion of kafirs, killing of Jews, suppression of women, etc.). The political part is a dangerous cult and should be offended at every opportunity. Unfortunately, Islam does not separate the two parts, so you are left with offending the whole, for that very reason.
8 years ago
Reply to
dantheshoeman
Frankly, before I started my research, I didn’t care either way. It’s like the Amish, or the Jews, or baptists, or Hindus, or Shinto, or whatever. Then I read the Quran and it showed how religiously intolerant Islam is. I did more research and cross referenced everything and found that Islam is like a Cuckoo bird chick. The only one it wants in the nest is itself. But that’s not even enough. Even at 100% Muslim (Dar-es-Salaam) the Islamic House of Peace, they won’t stop fighting until one and only one version of Islam remains and they will kill all moderates. Islam is the number one killing machine on the planet superseded only by an Extinction Level Event like a killer asteroid or Yellowstone erupting. Religious tolerance, ask the 80 million Hindus they killed during their conquest of India. In one hour they beheaded 10,000 people. Ask any Armenian about living under Islam and about the 1.5 to 2 million Armenian Christians they collected Jizya from until they decided that things had changed and it was convert to Islam or death…so they beat, robbed, raped, murdered and tortured those people and drove them into the desert to starve and die of thirst. Now that’s religious tolerance isn’t it. I could counter any argument they make. Because I’ve done my homework. And yes I’ve done full research on Christianity too. And yes, their history isn’t very pretty also. But they don’t hold a candle to Islam. I’d prefer that Islam was somewhere else, preferably on a planet on the other side of the Galaxy.
8 years ago
I like these Thomas Jefferson quotes better” I do not find in Orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature” or ” Religion is all alike-founded on fables and mythology”
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
I like this Winston Churchill quote better:
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
Winston Churchill.
8 years ago
Reply to
Lacouray Too
Winston Churchhill is a fuzzy foreigner. Who cares what an English prime minister said. Thank America that he still spoke English and not German.
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
Did the Grand Mufti speak German when he urged Hitler to begin slaughtering Jews instead of deporting them? Or did Hitler speak Arabpig?
8 years ago
Reply to
Lacouray Too
“To me it seems certain that the fatalistic teachings of Muhammad and the utter degradation of women is the outstanding cause for the arrested development of the Arab. He is exactly as he was around the year 700, while we have kept on developing” — General George S. Patton: The War as I Knew it
8 years ago
Reply to
M. Simon
Religion messes everything up. Thomas Jefferson is right. Christians, Muslim or Jew all crazies who have no regard for other humans. Jefferson was right religion has no redeeming qualities. Just sickness!
8 years ago
Reply to
therealvoiceofamerica
In general I agree. OTOH you might want to follow the link to find an exception.
The problem with religion is that it is exploited by authoritarians who justify their authoritarianism “because God”.
8 years ago
Reply to
M. Simon
One guy on this board with some intelligence. You want to practice..I’m glad. Don’t push your hate ideology on me. Dont call yourself a victim when you persecute others.
8 years ago
The question is not why won’t Pamela shut up but why won’t they defend our freedom?
Are they saying that if you insult Mohammed you deserve to die? If they are insulted then the most they can do is say that they are offended NOT kill. For starters it is not a crime to draw that scum so who are they to inflict punishment and punishment of death no less.
8 years ago
Way to go Pam! and Rich, Megyn, and Sean!
What the jihadi apologists seem to forget is that there is an element of choice here.
Pam chose to hold a private free speech event and was prepared for the consequences. A couple of jihadi’s were offended and then CHOSE to attack the private free speech event.
My children knew at a young age that they could choose to be offended or not by an act of another, and act accordingly. For instance, if someone called them a name, they could ignore it, or hit the other person, or do something in between. They learned that they are responsible for their own feelings and actions. They are now wonderful adults.
The jihadi apologists seem to think that the attack is a natural result of the perceived offense, but the jihadis DID have a choice. If they think that they did not have a choice, then they have been brainwashed and islam is a cult that the jihadis and their apologists have fully bought in to, or they are immature, or both.
I think it is both.
8 years ago
Exposing the terrorists and the Islam apologists with a little provocation isn’t such a bad thing! At least we know who and where they are now!
8 years ago
Keep talking Pam… REAL AMERICANS are behind you 110%…You are my HERO!!!
8 years ago
and when this is how the administration reacts (even though this statement was made before this happened)
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4536787/jeh-johnson-must-give-voice-plight-muslims-country
8 years ago
For every detractor of Pamela Geller, it counts as one more submissive moron for the Muslims. If you stop and think (instead of playing follow the leader?) you can see how this heathen organization is demanding that we do as they say or else. Perhaps we need to say that when you take away my rights to please your rights that is going too far. After all WHO THE HELL ARE YOU!! We must remember that we have freedom of speech. If you don’t like what we have to say, DON’T LISTEN! If you don’t like our cartoon caricature (and remember that you are the only religion that kills people if they don’t like something) then DON’T LOOK AT IT!!! If you don’t like us for any reason (which you have many), SIMPLY LEAVE OUR COUNTRY AND GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE IN THE GROUND!! Your sense of entitlement is pure disgust! We won’t kowtow to your demands! Pamela fights for us on these issues with the Muslims. She deserves applause, not disdain from the liberals and left wing nut cases who are slowly selling our country down the river
8 years ago
Reply to
Lisa Miller
I suppose I’m just throwing dirt in the air and suppose I get a little carried away. And I can see a worst case scenario. Yes, all you have to do is see what’s going on in Britain. Their leadership and police are scared to death. All you have to do is look at the Islamic population of a Country and what that means. Because, once they get to a certain percentage of infiltration and they have infiltrated the Government, the Military, Public Officials, Schools…it’s like Terra forming and or that Parker Brothers game of RISK. Or more explicitly, if you like history, exactly what Muhammad did in Medina. Used exactly the same tactics.Take the world over one country at a time. So they gain more and more influence, and if they get an objection, they threaten with extensive terrorism as in explosives, sports events, vehicular manslaughter of masses of people shopping, Military Bases (Fort Hood), power outages, shut down the internet, banking, food, water, set fires and then use snipers to kill firemen thus tying up police, tie up emergency services, tie up hospitals, police and roving caravans of Jihadists with Military Training ever hear of the Muslims of America? And they could do it. Because, after all, what does a Muslim look like…I know, an 8 year old kid wearing a backpack blowing up a bus or train terminal full of people. Say we have 8 million Muslims in the Country right now. That number could very probably be accurate with immigration and Illegals. According to my research, there is a likely hood of between 25 to 40% who are willing to die for Allah that day and others would just riot. So 25% of 8M = 2M of people countrywide willing to die for Allah that day and they are only a phone call away just like what happened in texas…just set the time. I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t own automatic assult rifles, or body armor, or explosives. And I wouldn’t travel a thousand miles to commit suicide. I get the feeling that if they really wanted, they could have sent a lot more than two bozos. There is a nice little camp just due south of El Paso that’s just waiting and training. Hell, with the way the Blacks have been ranting, they’ll jump in too. How do I know that? Well, I saw a nice picture of CAIR represenatives posing in their suits and Pink Bow ties with a large group of Black gang affiliates who don’t usually get along. Add their numbers of approximate population between the ages of 15 and 29 and you get something like 11M + change countrywide. Then on top of that, you’ve got jails and prisons.say 1.57M+ countrywide. Build as you go and take what you need. Think Baltimore riot and expand that country wide indefinitely. After all, the Mayor of Baltimore not only let the rioters “do what they wanted” and destroy 300 businesses, but actually apologized to the rioters. And the ACLU asked the schools not to suspend the rioters. So where does that leave us as far as protection is concerned? Where does that leave us as far as our safeguards of liberty is concerned?
8 years ago
Thank God for Pamela Geller!
8 years ago
The left’s strategy, tactics, modus operandi are all politically ideologically driven/ motivated narrative memes for everything is the same- attack the conservative right, accuse them of what they-the left themselves are guilty of (projectionism) whether accusing the right of racism, hate speech, etc, the left-media, politicians, etc, are essentially making the rules of who is committing what, thus putting the conservative right always on the defensive. This always ensures, puts the left in control of the socio-political issue of whatever is happening at the moment, as we have seen from Ferguson MO, to NY City, to Baltimore, to Garland Texas. Thus the left can dictate the narrative issue- who’s the victim, who’s the perpetrator, who’s the aggressor, who’s right, who’s wrong, etc.
The left turns logic, reason, common sense, truth, etc, upside down to politically gain the advantage. But truth, logic, reason, common sense, facts of evidence, etc, is still there for it is concrete, not subjective. That is the weapon the conservative right must always use to counter the left. Truth, facts of evidence reality are on our side, it’s just who wields that weapon, who uses the sword of truth against the left to effectively defeat them. Make no mistake about it, Pamela Geller is a truly courageous person who wields that sword of truth straight into the lions den of evil with absolutely no fear. No one, and I mean no one in America is more fearless than Pamela Geller. She is without a doubt the bravest civilian warrior against the evil of Islamist Fundamentalism/ Savage medieval barbaric terrorist threats and actions against Jews, Christians, aka Civilized man, along with their allied partners in crime-Liberal Fascists-aka Democrats, that we the American people have.
8 years ago
Reply to
TeaPartyReaganConservative
A TEA Party guy in Texas got 3 Democrats to vote against State Power. The Republican Party of Texas is not amused.
8 years ago
Pamela Geller is a joke, only thing is the joke is on her now, she peddles hate, racism for profiteering peddling books, events, speeches etc., a Fatwa issued means out of 1 billion Muslims as with all races, cultures, religions there is a nut out there waiting to do her harm, only question is will it come via assault rifle/drum magazine, IED, car bomb or a suicide bomber! I guess anyone attending her events, speeches, any news station/media outlet she appears on might advise all their employee’s and fans of hers to get some good life insurance if they are within 100′ of this nut case!:-) I guess the old corny saying is true, you reap what you sow, she has been sowing hate and guess the crop is coming in!
8 years ago
Reply to
R Hill
tsk tsk tsk lol Next time at least try to appear to have some semblance of coherency, factual truth. The joke is you, but then again, when your a rabid leftist anti-Semite, what else can one expect.
8 years ago
Reply to
TeaPartyReaganConservative
Sorry bubba not lonely hear, try a lonely hearts club if your starved for conversation~:-)
8 years ago
Reply to
R Hill
You started it, now you are running away with excuses, probably having no good arguments left.
8 years ago
Reply to
R Hill
R. Hill, You are so right that “some violent nut is coming”. You were even kind enough to mention how “dangerous it has become to be even NEAR Pam!”
Just as South Park knows this too. But you and South Park do NOT for a second expect the same violent reaction coming from a nut from any of the friends of Pamela Geller or any of the followers of the other religions,
And not for a second you appreciate THAT.
So South Park and so many others ADAPT and LIMIT their “negative reactions to Islam and Muslims”. But they NEVER LIMIT their “negative reactions” towards Pam and friends or other religions.
This is giving Islam and all Muslims an unfair advantage in the free market of ideas. It is REWARDING the terrorists, who, far from being “nuts” are smart enough to notice this adaptation which gives them success and incentive.
And who, together perhaps with “violent nuts” of other groups who see the success of the Islamic “nuts”, will now likely even kill and intimidate more, seeing how it works. The mentioned adaptation is more dangerous than her defiance in the long run.
At best you are hopelessly naive about the calculations of violent intimidators, like gangsters. At worst, you somehow support them!
8 years ago
I think the funniest part of her Hannity interview is her mentioning she has to pay for added security, and whined that FBI and Obama ought to provide her security like she was some former elected official or president, doubt the secret service is coming to her aid, at best she might spend some of the money she is conning her fans out of to make sure she has added security, since if this Texas event and the Fatwa are any example she is going to need a lot of security!
8 years ago
Reply to
R Hill
I see they must have a had a 2 for 1 sale on immaturity, unintelligence, and ignorance this week.. You should have bought some intelligence, maturity, and enlightened independent factual truthful thought instead.. Not on sale, but worth the price. lol
8 years ago
Reply to
R Hill
So why is she going to “need a lot of security”? Is it because of musswein terrorists? Yes, it is.
8 years ago
Reply to
R Hill
//”she is going to need a lot of security!”//
I am glad you see that. But you still think she is in it for the money or perhaps suicidal, crazy. And that she needlessly “whined” and probably it is a waste of money to prevent murder here.
And still you won’t concede that she has her big ideals to die for, courage and patriotism for 10!
8 years ago
Rich Lowry is just more proof on how conservative institutions have been infiltrated by liberals, posing as conservatives. I never liked Lowry reason why I cancelled my subscription to NRO and stopped reading it. NRO is no longer what it was under Mr. Buckley. Further more, who is Rich Lowry to tell anyone to shut up?
8 years ago
Reply to
JewJew Beans
The title was sarcastic. Lowry did not tell her to shut up. Read the article. It was very supportive of Pamela.
8 years ago
Reply to
Concerned
I stopped reading (and subscription) NRO (in tow with Lowry) some time ago and I am no longer interested in what Lowry has to say, no matter how supportive I am of Ms Geller. Lowry may have been supportive … this time … but it does not change who he is, another self proclaimed self-conservative who called Ted Cruz a traitor under the premise “others have said that”. So allow me to be circumspect of Lowry’s stance since he has shown his real face way too many times.
8 years ago
I think with her denigrating Obama as a love child of Malcom X, a illegal Kenyan doubt she is high priority on Obama’s list of favorite people to protect with tax payers money! I find this all quite amusing, racists prove one theory true, birds of a feather do tend to flock together!
8 years ago
Reply to
R Hill
Pamela did not say that about the love child of Malcolm X. A commenter did. Find that in another thread. Stupid crap about Obama has nothing to do with truth and free speech from Pamela.
8 years ago
Glenn Beck, Alex Jones and now Pamela Geller, they are all at one time regulars on Fox and Friends, then they just fade away as to toxic, to extreme even for the propaganda wing of the GOP!:-)
8 years ago
Pamela Geller is just one person, we need millions of men and women just like her !
8 years ago
These misfits must be flooded with ridicule, see flooded!
8 years ago
The article “Why won’t Pamela Geller shut up? ” by Lowry is supportive of Pamela. The title is sarcastic.
8 years ago
What a boring article. Learn to write.
8 years ago
I’m appalled that this is happening to Pamela in America! I tell you, after just watching this this evening on Fox News, this lady is my Hero! And BTW, where the Hell is the FBI on this? This woman is being threatened IN OUR COUNTRY and this Terrorist/Sexist/PIG! Or better yet, WTH ever happened to the KKK? Does this generation of KKK ball-less? I never dreamed in my life that I’d live to see everyone and anyone that’s NOT American having SO much power and Control on our grounds. And this pig has the nerve to say on National TV that Americans kill innocent people! WTH do these Morons do?…Stupid enough to kill themselves in the name of a God that HAs to be The Devil, because a Loving God/The Almighty God does Not teach Murder. Ugh! Wake Up Americans blinded by these!!
8 years ago
Sharia law can suck deez nuts!!! Got eeem!!!
8 years ago
Bill O’Reilly, Laura Ingraham, Donald Trump, Greta Van Susteren, Martha Maccallum and Geraldo Rivera, your words offend me. How about shutting the hell up! Cowards!
8 years ago
Camerota was so in over her head. She looked like a deer caught in the headlights.
Martha MacCallum appeared as an hysterical, hostile and out of control frenzied female.
I left Fox for OAN. When I tuned in to Fox to watch Pamela Geller’s interviews, based on the behavior of the hosts, it only confirmed I made the correct decision in abandoning the network.
8 years ago
Perhaps the First Amendment is wrong. After all, it isn’t politically correct to be provocative. BS – Freedom of Speech isn’t politically correct and it was never meant to be politically correct. Perhaps it is too provocative to host a “Draw Muhammad” contest. BS – again, free speech is provocative as “The Declaration of Emancipation” was considered provocative. When being politically correct or being too provocative over-rides our Constitution and our Constitutional Amendments, then our form of Republic is in mortal danger.
