The New York Times Runs Mother Mary Covered in Excrement, Won’t Run Muhammad Drawing

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The NY Times writer who contacted me asked me for a copy of the ad. The old gray dhimmi did not see fit to print the drawing that is changing the very foundation of free speech in this country.

But vile Christian imagery — they can’t get enough. This is hardly the first time: NY Times Hypocrisy: Anti-Catholic ad vs Anti-Islam ad

The New York Times’ hypocrisy regarding displays of “offensive” religious imagery runs unabated, as shown in a Scott Reyburn article in Friday’s Arts section on the sale of Chris Ofili’s controversial painting “The Holy Virgin Mary,” which shows the Virgin Mary clotted with elephant dung against a porn-collage background — and accompanied by a photograph of the offensive work.

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Chris Ofili’s “The Holy Virgin Mary” (1996). Credit Remi Chauvin/MONA Museum of Old and New Art, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia

 

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Washington Bans Political Ads From Public Transit

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WASHINGTON — Officials in Washington said on Friday that they had suspended all issue-oriented advertising in the public transit system because of fears that granting a request to display a cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad would make the region’s buses and trains “a target.”

The ban, which will remain in effect through the end of the year, came a month after New York officials put a similar prohibition in place. Both transit systems acted after ads were submitted by the American Freedom Defense Initiative, a pro-Israel group that has placed provocative ads critical of Islam on buses and trains across the country.

The ad that the group sought to display in Washington featured a cartoon originally drawn for a contest this month in Garland, Tex., where two gunmen were shot and killed after opening fire on the police. The image shows a cartoonist drawing a sword-brandishing Muhammad who says, “You can’t draw me!”

“That’s why I draw you,” the cartoonist responds. The words “support free speech” are written in red block letters at the top of the ad.

Jack Evans, a City Council member who is also on the board of directors of the transit system, said that buses or trains with images of Muhammad could present a danger to passengers.

Pamela Geller, the president of the American Freedom Defense Initiative, called the actions in Washington “cowardly” and said she planned to pursue legal action.

“They are rewarding terror with submission,” Ms. Geller said. “The message is, terror works.”

Ms. Geller said that the decision in New York in April most likely inspired Washington’s step. “The New York move was chilling,” she said. “You see Washington literally followed suit.”

When the board of the Washington transit system voted unanimously for the ban on Thursday, no specific cartoon was mentioned, and the issue was not originally on the meeting’s agenda, said Mike Tolbert, a spokesman for the system.

The board’s chairman, Mort Downey, issued the motion to ban political, religious and advocacy advertising until the end of the year. The move will cost the system, which has suffered from budget shortfalls in recent years, about $1 million.

“During this period, the board will review what role such issue-oriented advertising has in WMATA’s mission to deliver safe, equitable and reliable transportation services to the nation’s capital,” the resolution said, referring to the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority.

Mr. Evans said that the system would most likely be able to make up the lost money from other types of advertising.

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Sickofliberallies
Sickofliberallies
8 years ago

New York Times is a joke anymore. In fact, New York itself is a joke..it’s absolutely littered with liberal Jews, white apologists and in general, sheeple. And now that the city decided to elect an uber liberal white apologist as their mayor, they are enjoying a much higher crime rate too….fits in well with their super tax bill. LOL, I’ll never understand the mindset of a democrat voter..or lack there of.

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
8 years ago

CNN is full of ignorant cowards. The are ready to sell the soul of the nation, let down all standards of Journalism simply because of fear of Islam. They will tackle Christians and make all silly jokes about other peaceful religions but since Islam is violent, they stay miles away. Isn’t this consenting and defending Sharia?

SweetMarmot
SweetMarmot
8 years ago
Reply to  Straight Talk

It definitely shows a might makes right attitude. This could get us enslaved.
I hope it doesn’t involve real respect for violence (as opposed to faked respect, which is only shown to avoid getting hurt).

Dave from San AntonioD
Dave from San Antonio
8 years ago
Reply to  Straight Talk

Just “feeding the alligator”…hoping to be eaten…last.

Judgmentday
Judgmentday
8 years ago

How did “liberal Jews” get into this discussion? I’m a very conservative Republican and Jewish American and I totally resent what you’ve said. What in the world does religion have to do with this? I’m just as insulted as you are regarding the NY Slimes but because there are more non-Jews than Jews who work for that rag it would never enter my mind to say anything negative about their religion. You owe everyone on this thread an apology, but I won’t hold my breath waiting for it.

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago
Reply to  Judgmentday

Makes a change from atheists getting a slandering! But I do agree with you.

Belfast
Belfast
8 years ago
Reply to  Judgmentday

He didn’t say anything about the staff of the NY Times – he said New York is littered with liberal Jews.
So take your huffiness and stuff it where the sun doesn’t shine.
BTW I don’t buy the “I’m a conservative Republican” – it is unnecessary and is done apparently to give you some street cred.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  Judgmentday
Sickofliberallies
Sickofliberallies
8 years ago
Reply to  Judgmentday

Try some reading comprehension Mr. “conservative”. I never slandered the Jewish faith. I slammed liberal Jews..key word here being “liberal”. Not only did I marry a Jew, but the Jews I knew back in NY did everything they could to fix what was broken in that city, worked hard, cried about high taxes then turn around and support democrats who do nothing but tear it back down and raise taxes. Makes no sense to me, but as I said, the mind of a democrat voter is a total waste of oxygen. By the way, as stated, I ain’t buying you’re a conservative republican, nice try though.

Judgmentday
Judgmentday
8 years ago

Listen, a-hole, I’m a veteran of the Six-Day War who has seen enough from liberal Democrats and their cronies not only here in the U.S. but throughout the world. And I can smell an anti-Semite from 1,000 miles away. I’m not asking you to buy anything but what I am telling you is that you’ve made an anti-Semitic comment simply by using the word “Jews”. By the way, don’t talk to me about comprehension. The word “slander” doesn’t apply; “libel” does. The difference? Slander pertains to speaking; libel applies to something written. And therein lies the problem. You’re dumb as well as anti-Semitic. the Jewish faith isn’t the same as slandering Jews themselves. Every faith has problems so why didn’t you say liberal “Catholics” or liberal “Episcopalians” or liberal “Unitarians” or liberal “Muslims”. Like I said, you’re an asshole and a bigoted one at that.

Poptoy1949D
Poptoy1949
8 years ago

They elected a Straight up Marxist Communist is what they elected.

Cecelia
Cecelia
8 years ago

New York City murder rate up 15%. How about them apples?

Sickofliberallies
Sickofliberallies
8 years ago
Reply to  Cecelia

That’s right, because Deblasio’s 1/2 white son was afraid.

Sickofliberallies
Sickofliberallies
8 years ago
Reply to  Cecelia

Just the beginning. The more that idiot mayor alienates the police force, the more crime is going to go up. Liberals never learn.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  Cecelia

He ended stop and frisk, and came to the defense of the protesters instead of his own police force. I cheered when they turned their backs on him. Liberals were shocked at such a ‘display of disrespect,’ but look at the disrespect that engendered it. I moved to the city right as Bernie Goetz became the big story. After he had the brass balls to stand up to the constant abuse and intimidation was when it started to turn around, but now we’re headed back to the bad old days.

s;vbkr0boc,klos;
s;vbkr0boc,klos;
8 years ago

Just a little side note, but important. The outrage over Piss Christ and the Mary painting were over the fact that they were government funded. i.e. we Christians were being forced to pay for this blasphemy. We were fighting being made complicit in blasphemy.

sandra schmidt
sandra schmidt
8 years ago

That is true. Most Christians, like most Americans, just want to be left alone.

Guest
Guest
8 years ago

Christianity is strong enough to survive satire. Mohammedanism isn’t. That’s why they go postal when anybody criticises their mass-murdering, child-raping prophet of Satan.

‘Above all else, the Devil cannot stand to be mocked’ – C.S. Lewis

However, I would hardly class this puerile anti-Christian scatology as satire, unlike the very biting Mohammed cartoons.

Definition of caricature:
‘A picture, description, or imitation of a person in which certain striking characteristics are exaggerated in order to create a comic or grotesque effect.’

The characteristics have to be there to begin with for the caricature to be effective. That’s why caricature works with Mohammed, though not with Mary or Jesus

RalphB
RalphB
8 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Good point about caricature, Guest.

guest2
guest2
8 years ago
Reply to  Guest

That’s a great line from C.S. Lewis. Thank you.

harbidoll
harbidoll
8 years ago
Reply to  Guest

Our Prophet said “you can say whatever about Me & G-d but Don’t blaspheme the Holy Spirit”. !

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  harbidoll

I make it a habit of blaspheming your holy spirit ESPECIALLY because you tell me I can’t.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

I’ll risk my “eternal spirit” to defend free speech.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

I had a very secular upbringing, and had to look up Ruach HaKodesh. I think that entity would have no trouble with any attempts to seek or expose the truth, but the muslim equivalent is terrified of free speech because it will reveal the depths of its depravity.

joker
joker
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

You are free to mock the Holy Spirit and no-one will hurt you. The only one who will hurt you is you.

JT
JT
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

Mock mohamad and allah and islam dumbass. We all will be better off… (without you)

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  JT

We’re not mocking mohamad so much as mocking people who would try to kill the first amendment. We love our constitution as much as you love your prophet The koran espouses stoning, child marriages, slavery, world domination, lying, absolutely horrific violence. Isn’t it time to evolve?

JT
JT
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

TELL to THE muslims and the imams !!!

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  JT

I would let SHEIKH AHMAD ADWAN, a respected Jordanian Islamic Scholar, say it for me: “I say to those who distort their Lord’s book, the Koran, There is no such thing as “Palestine” in the Koran, you liars, you accursed, when Allah has already named it “The Holy Land” and bequeathed it to the Children of Israel until the Day of Judgement (Sura 5-The Sura of the Table. Verse 21)

“We made the Children of Israel the inheritors (of the land).” (Sura 26-The Sura of the Poets. Verse 59)

“Your demand for the Land of Israel is a falsehood, and it constitutes an attack on the Koran, on the Jews and their land. Therefore you won’t succeed, and Allah will fail you and humiliate you, because Allah is the one who will protect them.”

Joy Beum
Joy Beum
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

No such thing as allah…just another name for satan.

LimeyAL
LimeyAL
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

I don’t believe in Allah, of course not, but that statement is a good defense of Israel from the muslims own so called Holy Book, well found.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

You don’t see the significance of what I posted. That is a muslim cleric recognizing Israel.

donemyhomework
donemyhomework
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

There is no evolution to Islam. The influence of their religion paralyses their social development. No stronger retrograde force exists on the planet.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  donemyhomework

That’s a horrible and true statement, beautifully said.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

This was what he said, “Mock mohamad and allah and islam dumbass. We all will be better off… (without you)” I got confused. I’m obviously out of my league with all you folks who are tuned in directly to God. You have a nice conversation with your imaginary friend.

Joy Beum
Joy Beum
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

You don’t have to be embarrassed. We all make mistakes and no one will hold it against you.

DVultD
DVult
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

I forbid you to cut off your arm.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

You have just committed the only unforgivable sin in the bible. Read Mark 3 and Matthew 12.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  albeit

oops

thushjz
thushjz
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

You are proving our point, Christians can put up with and deal your infantile insults, do that to Mohammed in front of muslims and you’re likely to be killed. But you’re to ignorant to see that of course..

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  thushjz

I think it’s pretty obvious, even to dummies like me, that confronting them can get one killed. When I asked my neighborhood deli owner where he was from he growled what sounded like, ‘GORGON.’ I got confused, and asked him to clarify. He barked, “Gorgon! (Jordan.) Next to Palestine.” His attitude was a bit aggressive, and I realized he must have noticed my mezuzah. In my head I responded, “Oh, that was the name the Romans gave it, they call it ‘Israel’ now,” but I’m not as brave as Ms Geller.

Cecelia
Cecelia
8 years ago
Reply to  Guest

I am a Christian I do love everyone however I don’t like most of mankind these days. There is a global assault on Judeo-Christian beliefs and it is only escalating! What did that comic say about the Garland, TX incident? He said his favorite cartoon was the chalk lines drawn around the two dead Jihadists. I have purposefully omitted the comic’s name as I don’t want he and his family to be targeted and k&@&ed.

Martin Bloom
Martin Bloom
8 years ago
Reply to  Cecelia

Your Christianity has caused the death of more lives than ANY OTHER single organization on this earth. Just thank our serviceman for dieing so you can have answers to 1. where did I come from 2 where am I going 3 am I truly a good person. Paradox: The smartest answer to these three questions is: I don’t know.

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago

Another annoyingly inaccurate headline. In fact the Mother Mary is not “covered in excrement.” The painting ( 243.8 x 182.9 cm) rests on two clumps of elephant dung which serve to raise the painting off the floor.

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

Please be annoyed elsewhere, SIr, you are entitled. Your annoyance , however, is something I find annoying and I don’t like to be annoyed. You don’t have to be , and neither do I.

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

Ditto. And.. Once again as long as it violates a CATHOLIC icon… Oh.. Well… That’s just A-OK……

Mark Phukerberg
Mark Phukerberg
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

This is NOT is art. It’s just sicko porn. Is the person who created this sicko porn still alive? If so, can someone provide a photo of them so we all know what the sicko looks like – so we can avoid them – whatever they’ve got might be contagious.

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago

Not interested in your aesthetic judgement. My point was simply that all this outrage about how horrible and offensive this painting is points to the fact that Christians would have preferred to have it removed from the exhibition. (They had pickets and lawsuits, etc.) People here and now are still outraged and insulted. However, if people like conservative Mayor Guiliani, the President of the Catholic League, etc. and all you conservative Christians had been successful back in 1999, then where would we be today in fighting to maintain freedom of speech? There would be no argument to make against Sharia and the Muslims because we would have folded long ago to the religious Christians about not offending their religious feelings. Capicé?

harbidoll
harbidoll
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

they were objecting to it being tax payers expense mostly.

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago
Reply to  harbidoll

In the case of Piss Christ, Andres Serrano, that was true in the US as he had been given a government grant. But in the case of Chris Ofili the expense of showing his painting in a large exhibition with other contemporary British artists at the Brooklyn Museum, a museum with many other exhibitions, would have been nominal. The outrage had a lot to do with the use of body fluids, urine, feces, etc., in combination with sacred images, the beautiful and the vulgar. It’s unsettling. People in Europe also reacted strongly to the Piss Christ, and that had nothing to do funding by the US Endowment for the Arts, obviously.

Some people are still very bothered by it.

“On April 17, 2011, a print of Piss Christ was vandalized “beyond repair” by Christian protesters while on display during the Je crois aux miracles (I believe in miracles) exhibition at the Collection Lambert, a contemporary art museum in Avignon, France.[17][18] Serrano’s photo The Church was similarly vandalized in the attack.

Beginning September 27, 2012, Piss Christ was on display at the Edward Tyler Nahem gallery in New York, at the Andres Serrano show “Body and Spirit.”[19] Religious groups and some lawmakers called for President Barack Obama to denounce the artwork, comparing it to the anti-Islamic film Innocence of Muslims that the White House had condemned earlier that month.[20] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

pamelageller
pamelageller
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

Nobody was murdered over it.

Villages weren’t burned. Embassies weren’t burned.

Nobody died.

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago
Reply to  pamelageller

Right, and Christians shouldn’t get all hissy now because they see Muslims getting away with it, because we live in fear of the Islamic savages among us. That would be a spiritual regression.

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

Christians aren’t getting “hissy”, we’re just saying you’re allowed to be upset but we will not stand for you mooslem savages getting violent.
Speaking truth is not “spiritual regression”. Don’t try that pseudo-intellectual shiite.

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

Whining and getting irate about how the NY Times runs a picture of Mother Mary covered in excrement but won’t run a cartoon of Mohammed, or the President won’t condemn the showing of Piss Christ in a NY gallery but condemned a video ridiculing Mohammed — is getting hissy and is not speaking spiritual truth. It’s ignoring the reality of the differences theologically between Islam and the beliefs of Judaism and Christianity. Instead of making that point clear some Christians are acting like it’s unfair that their religion is mocked because of the 1st Amendment but we can’t mock Islam. That’s the opposite of the teachings of Jesus, it’s going backwards in terms of realizing the Christian ideal of Jesus who told his followers if someone offends you, slaps your cheek, let him slap the other cheek.
If you have a problem with rudimentary reading comprehension please don’t accuse me of pseudo intellectual shiite. That just lowers the level of the conversation.

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

“Whining and getting irate …blah, blah, blah — is getting hissy and is not speaking spiritual truth.”
This is your self-serving categorization of the situation. While it may not in your opinion be “spiritual truth” (whatever that is in the context of this discussion) it is actual truth, therefore reality.
The reality is that the playing field is uneven and shouldn’t be.
OK I won’t tell you that you’re talking shiite.

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

There’s nothing in this that is self serving, I get no benefit one way or the other from any of this discussion. If you want to get insulted by a painting and get all angry and indignant that’s your reality. IMO that is worshiping a false god. I agree that the playing field is uneven but I believe that operating like Muslims who can not be insulted is lowering yourself.

thushjz
thushjz
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

You have no concept of what Jesus said, taught or did… for instance…He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.” Luke 22:36

Jesus also did this…”Jesus made a whip from some ropes and chased them all out of the Temple. He drove out the sheep and cattle, scattered the money changers’ coins over the floor, and turned over their tables” John 2:15

You’re concept of who Jesus was is rudimentary at best…

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago
Reply to  thushjz

Your quotes refer to other issues — self defense and fighting corruption. Not how to deal with insults. This article was about a painting, not about defending your life. FYI, Luke 22:36 goes on to 22:38 “Lord,” they replied, “we have two swords among us.” “That’s enough,” He said.
IOW, they didn’t have to be armed to the teeth.
Who are you to judge me? Are you the Lord? No, I didn’t think so.

Keith
Keith
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

Maybe Christians would have preferred for the painting to be removed from the exhibition. That is their right in a free democratic society with free speech. You nor anyone else can remove their right to protest against the picture that they find offensive. Muslims have exactly the same right to protest the Mohammed cartoons.
To me it seems that you are trying to draw some semblance between the Christians who were offended and protested about that picture and the muslims who are offended and murdered over the Mohammed cartoons.
All I can see is that you are highlighting how ridiculous the violent muslim response is compared the restrained response from the Christian community. Maybe that was your point and I have misread what you mean.

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago
Reply to  Keith

Exactly. Christians should be proud of their ability to reconcile their religious beliefs and the value of freedom. We’re not slaves to God, our whole concept of God is different.

For example, see comments on this topic: (http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/wh-silent-over-demands-to-denounce-piss-christ-artwork.html)

Joe Springfield

Even if you urinate on Christ, He still loves you so much that he died for you and took on torture, humiliation and death so you can have eternal life in this life and in the life to come. He did the real work for you to be saved. This is why He is worthy of Praise and Worship. You would do the same thing for your children…

Reply · Unlike · 159 · Follow Post · September 21, 2012 at 11:04am

Benjamin Bracker · Top Commenter · Vice President & Creative Director at Pandagon Studios

Good for you Joe! Showing the best of your religion. I thank you.

Reply · Like · 27 · September 21, 2012 at 11:29am

Chris Caraveo Zwisler · Top Commenter · Woodland Park, Colorado

AMEN JOE! I love the way you show your ‘strength in meekness’ … now THAT sir is the power of God! Way to represent our savior …

Reply · Like · 41 · September 21, 2012 at 2:43pm

Keith
Keith
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

You may think the headline is hyperbolic but it does make a very valid point about the NYT and the mainstream press in general. They will print a picture that Christians find offensive, for what ever reason but will not print a picture of Mohammed because it would upset muslim sensibilities.
What is the difference?

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago
Reply to  Keith

Muslims actually believe that killing someone is justified if you upset them enough by insulting their prophet. Christians might get upset if you insult them but they know better than to ever justify violence. Does that make Christians superior in some way? Yeah, I think so. What do you think?

Keith
Keith
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

Yes I agree with what you say, I will admit though I was not sure what your line of thinking was when I responded to your earlier comments.
What I think is that individual Christians can be good or bad the same as any other religion but the civilization that has grown out of the Judeao-Christian heritage in the west is the best civilization ever to develop and should be defended by all of us against Islam and anyone else that wants to destroy it. Yes it is not perfect but from what I can see we would all be worse off if the alternative was allowed to be in charge.

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago
Reply to  Keith

Gold star!

Crystal Waters
Crystal Waters
8 years ago

For the last 50 years Christians have seen the name of Jesus used as an expletive constantly in literature, TV shows and hundreds of movies. Many Christians have found this offensive but none have killed over it. I challenge anyone who does this to switch out using Jesus with Muhammad when you feel the need to swear, without the obligatory “peace be upon him” phrase and see winch religion is the most tolerant.

Dave from San AntonioD
Dave from San Antonio
8 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Waters

“Peace be upon him”? “Peace”? Crap…and for all these years I thought they were saying, “Piss be upon him”…oh boy…I’ve got to get a new hearing aid…;)

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Waters

I say “Jeez” all day long as en expletive. I don’t do it to insult xians, and as you point out everyone shrugs it off. I do know that when my muslim stepfather swore (like I use “Jeez”) he would mutter, “ya allah.”
TOP DEFINITION
“actually is used alot by arabs (like me) literally means “my dear god” ya meaning my dear and allah meaning god
‘Ya Allah! why wont this jo-hosh leave me alone?'”
by arabian nights December 30, 2005

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

For the movie I’d like to see him played by Samuel Jackson (if it was an arab you’d get accused of ‘islamaphobia’) with Michael Douglas as G-d. Andy Samberg could be Jesus.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

Yep. That’s why he’s the perfect choice to play G-d.

Crystal Waters
Crystal Waters
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

Don’t worry. Even though Christians may find it offensive, no one is going to kill you for it.

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago

addendum: A bit of irony. The same fellow, William A. Donohue, President of the Catholic League of the United States who issued a statement back in 1999 (http://partners.nytimes.com/library/arts/092899ofili-brooklyn-museum.html) telling people they should picket the Brooklyn Museum about this painting has more recently written:

“MUSLIMS ARE RIGHT TO BE ANGRY.” Stephane Charbonnier, the paper’s publisher, was killed today in the slaughter. It is too bad that he didn’t understand the role he played in his tragic death. In 2012, when asked why he insults Muslims, he said, “Muhammad isn’t sacred to me.” Had he not been so narcissistic, he may still be alive. Muhammad isn’t sacred to me, either, but it would never occur to me to deliberately insult Muslims by trashing him.

Anti-Catholic artists in this country have provoked me to hold many demonstrations, but never have I counseled violence. This, however, does not empty the issue. Madison was right when he said, ‘Liberty may be endangered by the abuses of liberty as well as the abuses of power.’ http://www.catholicleague.org/muslims-right-angry/

Be careful what you wish for. The Ofili painting wasn’t intentionally made to insult Catholics, in fact the artist is a Catholic. The issue was more about challenging preconceived notions of how icons are presented. But by being deliberately insulting some are giving Donahue and people like him credibility to call for censorship based on sharia and other religious dogmas. There are plenty of Christians who want to impose their religious beliefs as well.

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

I’m not for this bastard being censored. But venues who choose to display artwork that offends ANYBODY don’t need to be supported by the people they offend. Hit ’em in the pocket book. That’s my point. Just like with Charlie Hebdo, muslims should have stood outside and asked people not to buy the paper/cartoons. They should have appealed to people’s decency. BUT NO. They don’t have that capacity. INSTEAD they went and murdered the jerks.

NOW the enemedia and all libotards choose to ignore that fact and blame Pam for holding a contest, which might never have happened in the first place had there not been a mass slaughter of people in order to stamp out free speech. On top of THAT, the cartoon entries were ALL legitimate talent and satirical. Pam specifically said she would not have anything pornographic (unlike Hebdo).

And as far as this “artist” is concerned, he is one twisted Catholic to come up with this shit, regardless of his intent. Even the most liberal Catholics wouldn’t display the Virgin Mary, whom we regard as the spiritual mother of all humanity, in this fashion.

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago

What do you think about nudes? Should they be removed from our museums? I know some people are offended. What I’m getting at is if you don’t like it don’t go to the museum. If you don’t want to see cartoons of Mohammed don’t buy Charlie Hebdo magazines. No reason to ask people not to because you are offended, IMO. No reason to demand or expect other people respect your religious beliefs. Maybe the artist isn’t twisted in terms of his beliefs, I personally was not blown out of the water by the image even though I have affection for the Virgin Mary. Maybe he doesn’t worship the Virgin Mary in the same way as you or think she has to be presented in the same way. Who knows?? The fact that he created a painting 8′ X 6′ made a statement to think about, that’s all. Outrageous, but where’s the harm?

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

You are only reiterating what I’m saying. It’s my opinion he’s twisted. Fortunately for him he has the right to put forth any kind of garbage he wants. I also have the right to express that it’s garbage. No one died because he creates filth. He clearly refuses to respect a lot of people’s opinions. Likewise we’re free not to respect his.

ADDITIONALLY, you might not think there’s any reason to ask people not to support this garbage. But I do. It’s called human decency. It’s also called FREEDOM. They have the freedom to ignore the request and support what they want.

Protesting is common. Blowing someone’s brains out isn’t.

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

Here’s some more of the artist’s work from that period. Notice he had elephant dung in all of his pieces, which he explains in the link I quoted above from partners.nytimes. He wasn’t using it for derogatory purposes. The idea that he was deliberately using dung to insult the Mother Mary isn’t so persuasive when you consider the context of his style at the time. People just assume then and now that his intention was to “insult” Mother Mary because they never saw anything else he had done. As people here demonstrate, they believe whatever they choose to believe, regardless of the facts. Just like some people are certain that Geller produced the cartoon exhibition to insult and provoke Muslims and get attention for herself and no one can convince them otherwise.

Dave from San AntonioD
Dave from San Antonio
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

Maybe this particular artist is “into ‘scat'”. Maybe that’s his “turn on” or fetish…in other words…how he “gets off”…especially if it’s in all or most of his works…;)

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago

He no longer uses dung but as a young artist doing that on a large scale certainly set him apart, got him noticed, and definitely helped establish his career.

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago

Aside from the fact that Catholics won’t run around killing “artists” over this kind of garbage, the fact that this “piece” was labeled as the Virgin Mary doesn’t make it so in anyone’s mind. Obviously this asshole means to insult Our Lady. But anyone who has respect for her, would portray her in an attractive serene light.

But again, perfectly OK to insult Catholics all over the place.

They make me vomitously ill.

BOYCOTT NEW YORK TIMES AND ALL ESTABLISHMENTS AND VENUES WHO PORTRAY THIS GARBAGE.

noreligon
noreligon
8 years ago

can anyone tell me what is written on the wall behind this coward who will not show his face?

SweetMarmot
SweetMarmot
8 years ago
Reply to  noreligon

Gross. What is the matter with these people? They are sick.

Your Friend Clem
Your Friend Clem
8 years ago
Reply to  SweetMarmot

In some ways they and the Baltimore rioters are the same kind of sociopath.

harbidoll
harbidoll
8 years ago
Reply to  SweetMarmot

sex obsessed religion thinks if 1 is mutilated, sex in paradise is impossible! lol. Koran was written by horny 14 year old boys/dirty old men. (demons )

Guest
Guest
8 years ago
Reply to  noreligon

Religion of Pieces?

Sickofliberallies
Sickofliberallies
8 years ago
Reply to  noreligon

It say’s “you draw Mohammad, I draw blood and body parts”!

ΔИθᴎЎϻɸᵿƧ
ΔИθᴎЎϻɸᵿƧ
8 years ago
Reply to  noreligon

This sick bitch is part of what concealed carry is about

Tatonka
Tatonka
8 years ago
Reply to  noreligon

Why don;t show this pic of that filthy pig on TV and in every news paper across the globe with the heading “Islam religion of pieces” courtesy of Mohammed.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Tatonka

Because it says in Revelation 17 that the kings of the earth committed fornication with the great whore and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk from the wine of her fornication. Folks we are being paid off to remain silent. Saudi Arabia is the great whore. The harlot is the ruling class of Saudi Arabia or called the House of Saud. Saudi money is being poured into this country to buy influence in our learning institutions, our political leaders, our corporations, high schools, and everything in between. That is why it is not heard and why the enemedia is kissing Islams ass!

Tatonka
Tatonka
8 years ago
Reply to  albeit

You can not tell me that every news outlet across the world is corrupted.by Islam.
I think 90% of them keep their mouth shut because of fear.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Tatonka

Saudi Arabia is buying American influence. There is no question about that. Yes there may be a fear element of it as well but there should not be, at least not in this country. Evil always wants to appear more threatening and bigger than is actually the case.

Belfast
Belfast
8 years ago
Reply to  noreligon

I don’t know what the writing on the wall says, but the signal with his hands is that of ISIS.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  noreligon

Does anybody question where this comes from? Is this photoshopped? Is it from a reputable source? You guys are why the rabble is so easily roused.

noreligon
noreligon
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

All I asked was what was written on the wall, if you don,t know go some where else to rant your verbal garbage.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  noreligon

Sorry. I took that comment down. The photo was shocking to me, and I had some doubt it was real. I don’t like to forward things if they’re not. You’re right, the accuracy of the post isn’t the question. I would take it down to the Jordanian run deli on the corner and ask him to translate, but that might be awkward..

noreligon
noreligon
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

Thank you for replying ,may be if I did they my think I can give them a fresh supply…..

Rocinante44
Rocinante44
8 years ago

this is good reporting. keep shining your light on the hypocritical evil that permeates the soul of america’s democrat proganda organs (formerly know as the “press”). these people absolutely loath America and the God of Abraham and our Savior. i put more credibility in pravda than the nyt; at least pravda admits its controlled by the state

SweetMarmot
SweetMarmot
8 years ago

It just goes to show which religious group they’re afraid of and which one they aren’t. Obviously they’re afraid of Islam. The Catholics? Nah, they’re harmless. We can insult them all we want. They’re safe.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  SweetMarmot

When I learned that priests raped babies then covered up for each other, I happened to walk by the catlick church. There were two of them, in their skirts, shaking hands with the flock as they filed out. I’m very shy and soft spoken, but couldn’t help it, I yelled at the priests, “HOW CAN YOU SHOW YOUR FACES IN PUBLIC?” To the parishioners, “HOW CAN YOU GO TO A CHURCH SO DEBASED?” Also in my imagination, they hung their heads, and everyone scurried to their cars and became atheists. I wish I had been brave enough.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

Why don’t you cry for the little boys and girls who are molested legally in muslims states like Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran?

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

Crying will do just as much good as prayer, but if the word gets out maybe there will be enough outrage to put an end to this barbarism.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

There’s no comparing the crimes committed by Catholic priests in the 20th and 21st centuries w/the atrocities (some legalized) being committed by muslims all over the world.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

Tell that to the thousands of children who’ve had their lives ruined by priests who molested and raped them. Pointing out that the muslims do worse demeans the horrors committed by xians.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

Tell that to the little boys and girls still being molested (or enslaved) legally and openly by islamic pigs in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iranistan and ISIS fool. You do understand the difference between legal and illegal right?

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

I think the real power is in those photographs I just posted, and in social media to get the message out.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

You use a book of fairy tales as your source, so that would tend to rule out science and statistics, or anything relevant to a rational discussion. I can’t compete with blind obedience, no one can.

thushjz
thushjz
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

Which is why I’m no longer Catholic (raised in it) but am still a Christian.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago
Reply to  thushjz

People, who just want to pray in private and be good human beings have had their religion tainted by the biggest sinners of all. The strict interpreters of the Abrahamic religions are the ones causing trouble. There are plenty of Jews who aim to destroy Israel because they believe that has to happen before they get their messiah. There are Dominionists in control of the US Congress who will lie and do whatever it takes to bring about the Apocalypse in the middle east. The Muslims openly include Jew killing in their government charters. Cavemen with nuclear weapons.

Dave from San AntonioD
Dave from San Antonio
8 years ago
Reply to  sikuvitall

Just a thought:

“A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. If he penetrates and the child is harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister.” The complete Persian text of this saying can be found in “Ayatollah Khomeini in Tahrirolvasyleh,” Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom

Or if you are into something else:

“A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, however selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.” From Khomeini’s book, Tahrirolvasyleh, fourth volume, Darol Elm, Qom, Iran, 1990

All this comes from the teachings of “the religion of peace and tolerance”. What Catholic priests have done was against their religion and what their religion teaches, but…islam teaches perversion.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago

Thank you! This question has come up, and I need to be able to answer it in a scholarly way, rather than with photos of actual goat humping.

“What Catholic priests have done was against their religion.” Yes, but that doesn’t matter. All they have to do is say a few ‘hail marys’ and get transferred to the next parish to diddle more kids. Maybe “islam teaches perversion” but Catholicism tolerates perversion and turns a blind eye to the suffering of little children.

sikuvitall
sikuvitall
8 years ago

No, I’m a stinking atheist. The only thought I had given to Catholicism had been to note the hypocrisy of pope after pope going to places like Haiti, that can’t even feed the people they’ve got, and telling them they can’t practice birth control. Pope Francis was pretty clear when he told the flock to, “Stop breeding like rabbits.” If he expects them to do it Texas style, abstinence only, it’s been shown to be totally ineffective.

landshark123
landshark123
8 years ago

They wouldn’t directly say it, but they would run pictures satirizing other religions, because they will not try to kill them.

juxtaposer
juxtaposer
8 years ago

It sounds like Chris Ofili’s work stinks.

guest2
guest2
8 years ago

If they-the media- would only admit that they’re afraid of being killed. No shame in that. What’s disgusting is the pathetic pretence that they’re censoring the art for noble reasons. They’re like a dog hiding under the bed with it’s rear sticking out. Whom do they think they’re fooling?

Dave from San AntonioD
Dave from San Antonio
8 years ago

Most of the MSM, to include the Newspapers, are almost the definition of PC, hypocrisy, liberalism and, in this case, “submission”. They absolutely, for the most part, refuse to truly support the ideals of free speech or free press. Instead, they bow to whatever will make them “look good”…or provide them more money. With these people…the truth is dead…or…the truth has become “hate speech”. They are fine as long as people share the same dismal view as they do…just as long as the truth doesn’t get mentioned. Is the “picture”…’offensive’? Yes…but I am not “personally offended” to the point I’d go out and be violent or kill over it. While I don’t agree with it…it is considered a form of free speech and therefore is protected as such…just as any other form of free speech. In fact I’m working on a cartoon…featuring “Big Mo” trying to pick up a little girl…”Piece of candy little girl…and go for a ride?”…or something to that effect…bringing out his pedophile nature. “Offensive”? Probably to some, but…it’s the right I…actually, the right WE ALL have…the right to free speech.

Michelle
Michelle
8 years ago

Aren’t these people cowards until they are sttacked by these jihadis which come back to kill you as many as they can and seeing as there are cells of ISIS in every state they need hunting out and a bullet between the eyes so you don’t end up with them taking over the prisons as they incite riots and violence on a mass scale

Red Bee
Red Bee
8 years ago

The article in the New York Times states Pamela Geller said she planned to pursue legal action.

In this case I think this is a bad idea because she plays into the hand of the Islamic Propaganda Machine. The tactics of the IPM include creating confusion, evading the real topic and accusing the opposition of bigotry. It did so successfully in the discussion about the Garland exhibition. Much of the debate was about whether or not the AFDI was only seeking to create controversy. They will do the same thing again.

If Pamela Geller goes to fight the decision to “suspend[ed] all issue-oriented advertising in the public transit system because of fears that granting a request to display a cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad would make the region’s buses and trains “a target.” it is easy for the IPM to create an enormous amount of confusion. The cartoon, though not offensive to non-Muslims, is to be displayed in the public domain. The court may rule against that. That would be a loss Pamela Geller can’t afford. She will be branded a bigot and be grilled in the media because the opposition seems to be backed up by a court decision.

Before protesting the decision of the transit systems board the ad campaign should be changed in such a way the argument of unnecessarily offending other peoples religion can’t be used. It could for instance, focus on the refusal of the media to show the cartoon.

The campaign in its present form is a very bad play. It probably will not win; the discussion in the media will go along the same lines as after the Garland incident attacking Pamela Geller. Loosing in court would be a disaster and is a risk that should not be taken.

http://members.ziggo.nl/iiat/

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Red Bee

Explain again; what is wrong with the cartoon?

Red Bee
Red Bee
8 years ago
Reply to  Lacouray Too

There is nothing wrong with the cartoon itself. It is a great cartoon when shown at an exhibition, in the papers or on a website for example. It conveys its message in a clear manner.

Showing it on busses (and pushing for the right to do so by taking legal action) however is a tactical mistake in my opinion. By changing the context from the private domain to the public domain you change the message and introduce a new topic.

I’ll try to explain by using the analogy of a bridge game. When playing a bridge hand, one team bets it can make a certain number of tricks, 10 for instance, and the other team will try to prevent them from doing so. When the bet has been made and the game starts the declarer (the one that has to make the 10 tricks) will plan the play. Obviously he will try to find a line of play that will maximize his chance of winning. He considers various possibilities and chooses his best option. A good player will consider what can possibly go wrong. If he can make 11 tricks, but has to take the risk of making only 9 to do that he should not try. Winning the bet is winning the battle and the bet is: at least 10. He will only try to take more tricks when there is no risk involved in doing so.

Ms. Geller’s line of play is known. A far better line of play in my opinion would be to have an ad campaign that focuses on the refusal of the press to show the cartoon without putting the cartoon in the public domain. We could for instance, use the picture of the Daily mail and use q r code or some other technical solution to show the cartoon. This way the cartoon will still be in the private domain, one does not have to read q r code, the ad cannot be criticized as being intrusive and the message of the cartoon will not be altered (see image below). Let’s analyze both lines of play and imagine what the outcome is likely to be and what could possibly go wrong (like a bridge player).

Pamela Geller’s line of play: – introduces a new element on which she might lose in court. It’s like trying to take an overtrick at the risk of losing the game. We don’t need this trick. We want freedom of speech, not the right to put offensive material in the public domain unnecessarily. The judge might rule against Pamela Geller with the argument he would not allow the museum to advertise their exhibition of the piss Christ photo by showing the actual photo on busses either because there is a non-offensive alternative. Even if the judge rules in favor of Pamela Geller the Islamic Propaganda Machine will focus on this issue, thereby deflecting attention away from the message of the campaign (censorship). The IPM gets an opportunity to create smog; why give them this possibility when we don´t have to? The worst thing about this line of play however is Pamela Geller can’t afford to lose. A loss will result in the opposition seizing the moral high ground and attacking her, this time backed up by a court decision. Lose this and you will lose a battle; win this and you can still lose the battle in the smog and confusion the opposition can create.

My line of play: – introduces no new element so the topic in the courtroom will only be whether or not the public transit authorities are allowed to refuse issue oriented ads. Winning this is a clear victory. Losing this is at most a minor setback. I don’t think the opposition will enjoy a victory because Pamela Geller will be all over the news seizing the moral high ground and making her point. We are being censored. Our freedom is under attack. Lose a skirmish and be back with a vengeance. What can go wrong is that the media will still be confused as they were after the Garland incident, but Pamela Geller will get a lot of media attention and a position that will allow her to attack instead of having to defend herself and minimize the damage.

I am happy with your reaction to my post, Lacouray Too. It reinforces my idea there is an enormous amount of confusion going on. If you read my post again, you will see I did not say there is something wrong with the cartoon. If you think I did please tell me how.

We don’t want a discussion about the cartoon; we want to convey the message it is being censored. We should try to make it difficult for the opposition to deflect attention away from that. When Pamela Geller does not show the cartoon in the public domain she can parry this tactic by saying her opponent is off topic and then make her own point. If she does show it, she makes it a topic and the talk show hosts will not back her up and allow an opponent to comment on it.

See also: http://members.ziggo.nl/iiat/UCantDrawMo.htm

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Red Bee

There is no confusion.
It is all about sharia submission.
It is about submitting to islam.
While censorship might be the media’s method of submission the entire conversation, in my opinion, is about submission to islam and sharia law.
This cartoon is an integral part of the conversation.

disqus_SFuH2o3nbA
disqus_SFuH2o3nbA
8 years ago

So sad that the NY Times has decided to follow Shariah Law instead of US Law.
I would boycott them over this, but I already don’t buy their biased rag.

drdias
drdias
8 years ago

USA and World Media totally afraid and entirely intimidated by the Islamic Ideology of Death and Enslavement!

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  drdias

It’s not just them. It’s National Geographic, it’s Newsweak, it’s Time magazine. ALl of them publish nothing but islamic propagandda.

Metatrona
Metatrona
8 years ago

Mary was Jewish. Her people believed in free speech and free action. Muhammad was the first Muslim. His people believed in torture, rape and murder of people who believe in free speech and free action. Nothing has changed.

Roger Starnes
Roger Starnes
8 years ago

I ran the book and at the end, “We win!”.

Roger Starnes
Roger Starnes
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger Starnes

LOL, I meant to write I read it. But, we did win.

Roger Starnes
Roger Starnes
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger Starnes

You ever heard of Rabbi Eckstein of IFCJ?

Roger Starnes
Roger Starnes
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger Starnes

Go here and join if you wish. Great place to stay in touch with Israel. https://bay168.mail.live.com/?tid=cmLewWAlrZ5BGS9NidZ18lqA2&fid=flJpyPAwt_80iaozlr6HMMAQ2
Semper Fidelis

Roger Starnes
Roger Starnes
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger Starnes

I thought you might be. Someday I’m going to Israel and walk the streets of Jerusalem. I read and study about Israel. Israel , “The miracle of miracles”.

Shalom

Roger Starnes
Roger Starnes
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger Starnes

That is amazing I just watched a great DVD from WND (World Net Daily) about that very subject. The first century Jewish writer Josephus(spelling) described the City of David. I think God hid the location in plain sight to protect it from the Muslims. Look where the Doom of the Rock is. How about the water supply? How would they get the under ground stream to run all the way to the top of current mount?
Sorry about the rant but I agree with you, it is a mystery. All sorts of books and DVD’s here, http://www.wnd.com. I’ll get the book by Robert Cornuke.

Roger Starnes
Roger Starnes
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger Starnes

Dorrie, if you get a chance go out to Amazon and check out the book “This Earthly Protector”.

Let’s stay in touch from time-to-time.

.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Roger Starnes

I looked him up. Makes a ton of money for himself. Does not like the messiannics however. They are those of us that believe that Jesus is Lord.

Roger Starnes
Roger Starnes
8 years ago
Reply to  albeit

Thank you, Albeit. As you know well, Rabbi Eckstein will come to believe.

Louise from Canada
Louise from Canada
8 years ago

That is a picture of the Holy Virgin Mary?? Gee, I was so sure it was a picture of aisha the pedophile moHAMmed’s wife.

Joy Beum
Joy Beum
8 years ago

This is almost funny…if it weren’t so cowardly. The New York Times, which depends on freedom of speech provided by the first amendment is afraid to run the draw the pedophile prophet contest report, but has no problem with ridiculing the Catholic Church. Hey Catholic Church, perhaps if you start chopping off some heads, the NYT will stop making fun of Mother Mary. That is apparently all that they understand.

Lori Roupp
Lori Roupp
8 years ago

Oh now ffs your gettn your panties in another bunch over a cartoon..come on now..we didn’t run any Christian ad
with ours…..tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk..whats good for the goose is good for the gander..do you peeps realize how lunatic and ignorant you sound???

Grey Wulfe #WR
Grey Wulfe #WR
8 years ago

Mr. and Mrs. Merkan morons, read the Talmud to see what Jesus and Mary are considered as:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud1.htm
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud2.htm

Naturally a Jew running NYT can’t be blamed for his hatred of Jesus and Europeans in general.

Grey Wulfe #WR
Grey Wulfe #WR
8 years ago
Reply to  Grey Wulfe #WR

Hopefully people start seeing through the smokescreen identifying the real culprits who are leading their nations to the trash heap of history.

Martin Bloom
Martin Bloom
8 years ago

The paradox is that the more we “act” offended [rest assured it is an act] the more erosion of freedom. It is the uneducated with kneejerk “knowledge” that does more harm here (USA) than anything else. Blame the damn housewife who knows everything. Risk your life for the freedom, and you cannot afford to act offended.

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