The failed Daniel Pipes

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Yesterday’s man, Mr. “Moderate Islam,” is waging a holy war on …. our ads. Daniel Pipes is trying to get relevant and only renders himself more irrelevant.

Pipes claims our Islamic Jew-hatred ad campaign in Philly was a failure. Based on what measure? Our objective was to educate, and we succeeded beyond our wildest imagination. It ran in every major newspaper here and abroad.

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Most good people don’t know that Islamic Jew-hatred is in the Quran. It may not be the kumbaya Pipes is looking for, but the truth almost never is.

Most good people don’t about the alliance between Hitler and al-Husseini. Pipes calls it a “one-time, opportunistic consultation” — really? Tell that to the 400,000 Jewish women and children Husseini sent to their deaths at Nazi concentration camps. Tell that to the victims of the Muslim armies in Bosnia that Husseini raised for Hitler.

Mufti al-Husseini lived in Berlin from 1941-1945 on Hitler’s dime and made weekly radio addresses from Berlin to the Axis power nations and the Muslim world.

“Arabs, rise and fight as one for your sacred rights. Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases Allah, history and religion. This saves your honor, Allah is with you.” (source: Mufti of Jerusalem, Maurice Perlman, 1947)

This and similar appeals using the Quran reoccurred time and time again in the mufti’s broadcast addresses during the war. He organized propaganda services to the Muslims of the world from Berlin. He used Axis radio stations calling Muslims to arms in a holy war against the Allies.  He aided the Nazi espionage service. He raised Muslim parachute groups for sabotage in the Middle East. He raised Muslim formations to fight the allies. He helped in the Nazi plan to exterminate nearly 6,000,000 Jews. (source: Mufti of Jerusalem, Maurice Perlman, 1947)

 It has now been established that six million Jews in Europe were exterminated in Nazi concentration camps. It has also now been established that the mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al Husseini  played an active role in that unprecedented massacre of a people. Records found in Nazi archives  And evidence produced at the Nurenberg trial reveal in specific terms that the mufti was a leading henchmen of SS Obersturmbannfuehrer Eichamnn,  principal executive officer in the liquidation of European Jewry. It is now established that, but for Haj Amin, the scale of murder might not have been so extenisve, and hundreds of thousands of Jewish lives might have been saved. (source: Mufti of Jerusalem, Maurice Perlman, 1947, page 67)

Pipes declares that Husseini was not the leader of the Muslims. it sounds as if Pipes is getting his talking points from Hamas-CAIR. In fact, Amin al-Husseini, in 1929 named Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, was President of the Supreme Muslim Council. He was behind the Islamic terrorist attacks that raged across the Holy Land between the wars. He took part in the anti-Allied activities in Syria and Lebanon after the outbreak of the war. He took part in the Rashid Ali revolt in Iraq.

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Translation of inscription: “To his Eminence the Grand Mufti, a Souvenir, July 4, 1943”

Pipes calls Husseini, “British appointee in the Mandate for Palestine.” Ah, such scholarship. For a “historical scholar,” Pipes is short on history and shorter on scholarship. But never on ego.

Just for knowing, I had to substantiate every statement in our ad, using multiple primary sources for each fact.

Pipes claims, “rather than win support for Jews as victims of Muslims, it instead rallied the Philadelphia establishment to support Muslims as victims of Jews.” Who is he kidding? The leftist Philly establishment has been portraying the poor Muslim/Palestinians as victims of big, bad Israel long before our ads ran.

Pipes is small and petty and jealous. Smearing the work of fellow counter-jihadists is his latest career move. Good luck with that, Danny boy.

Muslim armies for Hitler

Photo: Husseini’s Muslim armies for Hitler

Failed analysis offered as remedy to “failed ad”

By Robert Spencer, May 26, 2015

While Pamela Geller lives under armed guard over a live and imminent threat from the Islamic State, Daniel Pipes seizes the opportunity to…defend the freedom of speech and decry the threats against her? No. He chose instead to attack her ad criticizing Islamic anti-Semitism.

“SEPTA ad campaign a spectacular failure,” by Daniel Pipes, Philadelphia Inquirer, May 26, 2015:

Did a controversial, austere, black-and-white advertisement that ran for one month on Philadelphia buses achieve its goal of winning sympathy for Jewish victims of Muslims?

The ad was sponsored by the American Freedom Defense Initiative and placed on buses operated by SEPTA, the regional-and state-run authority. The ad read: “Islamic Jew-Hatred: It’s in the Quran. Two thirds of all U.S. aid goes to Islamic countries. Stop the hate. End all aid to Islamic countries. IslamicJewHatred.com.” A November 1941 photograph ran with the caption, “Adolf Hitler and his staunch ally, the leader of the Muslim world, Haj Amin al-Husseini.” SEPTA received $30,000 to run the 30-by-80-inch ad on 84 buses out of SEPTA’s 1,400 buses during April.

No, the ad failed to achieve its goal, and spectacularly so. Count the ways:

To begin with, the text is factually inaccurate. Husseini was never “leader of the Muslim world.” He was a British appointee in the Mandate for Palestine, where Muslims constituted less than 1 percent of the total world Muslim population.

The term “leader of the Muslim world” is a perfectly reasonable summation of Husseini’s power and influence. Yes, he was appointed Mufti of Jerusalem by the British. After the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the end of the caliphate, by virtue of his position alone as Mufti of the third holiest city in the Muslim world, Husseini had as good a claim as anyone to being the foremost authority in the Muslim world as anyone.

What’s more, the British appointment is not remotely the whole story of the Mufti’s influence. While he lived in Berlin from 1941 to 1945, he made broadcasts from Berlin in Arabic, appealing to the entire Arabic-speaking world to support the Nazis, and raised up a Muslim SS division in Bosnia, where no one seems to have rejected his authority on the basis that he was a British appointment for Jerusalem only.

Even as National Socialist Germany collapsed in defeat and ruin, he didn’t lose his influence. In 1946, the Arab League appointed al-Husseini not just a member, but the chairman, of the Arab Higher Committee. The Arab League was founded in Cairo in 1945 by Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Transjordan (Jordan from 1946) and Yemen (North Yemen, later combined Yemen). Are those countries not the heart of the Muslim world?

The Arab Higher Committee, with Husseini as its chairman, wielded so much influence that it was given the same diplomatic status as the Jewish agency for Palestine in the partition of Israel in 1948. The political committee of the general assembly of the United Nations, without a dissenting vote, decided to invite the Arab Higher Committee to testify before it on the issue of Israel and the Arab Muslims.

Second, Husseini’s meeting with Hitler did not represent a permanent or universal alliance between Muslims and Nazis; it was a one-time, opportunistic consultation between a fugitive Palestinian figure and his patron.

Pipes reveals that there is a bit more going on in this photo than a “one-time, opportunistic consultation” by noting in passing that Hitler was Husseini’s “patron.” (Incidentally, Pipes’ reference to Husseini as a “Palestinian,” however, is anachronistic, as the Muslim Arabs of Palestine were not referred to as “Palestinians” until the Soviets and Arafat invented the “Palestinian” nationality in the 1960s, so as to defuse Israel’s image as a tiny Jewish state arrayed against numerous surrounding huge Arab states: an even smaller people was invented, menaced by the mighty Israeli war machine.)

In any case, “Husseini’s meeting with Hitler did not represent a permanent or universal alliance between Muslims and Nazis,” but the meeting was far more than a “one-time, opportunistic consultation,” either. Husseini was important enough in Berlin to play a role in the Third Reich’s extermination of Jews. SS Hauptsturmfuehrer Dieter Wisliceny, a close collaborator of Adolf Eichmann, testified that “the grand mufti, who had been in Berlin since 1938, played a role in the decision of the German government to exterminate the European Jews the importance of which must not be disregarded. He had repeatedly suggested to the various authorities with whom he had been in contact, above all before Hitler, Ribbentrop and Himmler, the extermination of European Jewry. He considers this as a comfortable solution of the Palestine problem. In his messages broadcast from Berlin, he surpassed us in anti-Jewish attacks. He was one of Eichmann’s best friends and has constantly been cited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard say that, accompanied by Eichmann, he has visited incognito the gas chamber in Auschwitz.”

The statement referred to in the affidavit was made by Eichmann in his office in Budapest on June 4, 1944; the confirmation by Wisliceny was given some days later, also in Budapest.

Further, according to testimony at the Nuremberg trials, “the mufti was a bitter arch enemy of the Jews and had always been the protagonist of the idea of their annihilation. This idea the mufti had always advanced in his conversations with Eichmann.”

Eichmann had before all this been in charge of efforts to deport the Jews from Europe. After the Mufti weighed in, the Nazi efforts shifted from deportation to extermination — confirming Wisliceny’s account.

Third, the ad’s demand makes no sense: How does ending $10 billion in U.S. military assistance to Afghanistan “stop the hate” against Jews? How does continuing it encourage “Islamic Jew-hatred”?

As Dr. Pipes well knows, anti-Semitism is rampant in the Islamic world, including in Afghanistan. The ad is calling for U.S. aid to Muslim countries to be contingent upon their efforts to end anti-Semitism — efforts which are non-existent at this point. U.S. aid continues to encourage “Islamic Jew-hatred” (Pipes’ sneer quotes betray his unwarranted skepticism regarding the concept) by doing nothing whatsoever to counter it.

But more important to the ad’s failure was the hostile response it provoked. Rather than win support for Jews as victims of Muslims, it instead rallied the Philadelphia establishment to support Muslims as victims of Jews. A Jewish Exponent headline summed up the reaction: “Contempt for SEPTA Bus Ads Brings Groups Together.” Mayor Nutter convened an outdoor meeting under the city’s famous LOVE sculpture that brought together activists, clergy, journalists, and intellectuals, where he denounced the “misguided and opportunistic political tactics” behind the bus ad….

Pipes goes on in this vein for several paragraphs, detailing the opposition to the ad from various Leftist multiculturalists. It is surprising that he accords such respect to this opposition, since those he invokes — the Philadelphia mayor, Leftist Jewish groups, a Roman Catholic archbishop — have never shown any awareness of the nature and magnitude of the jihad threat or of Islamic anti-Semitism, or any indication that they have any will at all to oppose them, even with the most watered-down and empty of gestures. Nor will he ever win their love except by engaging in empty, toothless gestures of his own. One would think that he would have been tipped off to how clueless and compromised SEPTA is by the fact that it, as he puts it, “sent a long valentine to the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)” — but he seems to think this is more our fault than SEPTA’s.

If the first rule of advertising is to make sure to convey your message effectively, this inaccurate, strange, and aggressive bus advertisement must rank as an all-time disaster, damaging the cause it meant to serve while helping those it intended to harm. It’s like a Coke ad that sends customers flocking to Pepsi.

In reality, the ad seems to have very neatly smoked out those who are compromised and unwilling to state unpopular and unwelcome truths from those who are willing to grasp the nettle and stand for the truth no matter what may come from the cowards, trimmers, and collaborators of the world.

But as an alternative, Pipes offers his “militant Islam is the problem, moderate Islam is the solution” mantra, which stands out now as one of the most spectacularly failed analyses in the entire sorry history of the “war on terror”:

How might have the ad been more effectively composed? Simple: by distinguishing between the religion of Islam and the totalitarian ideology of Islamism, as in, “Radical Islam is the problem, moderate Islam is the solution. Non-Muslims and patriotic Muslims must band together to fight ISIS, Boku [sic] Haram, CAIR, and ISNA. Islamist-Watch.org.” The picture might have featured novelist Salman Rushdie talking to television host Bill Maher, a liberal who criticizes radical Islam.

“Moderate Islam is the solution,” eh? Well, here we are almost fourteen years after 9/11, and where is it? There is Zuhdi Jasser, there is Tawfik Hamid, there is Stephen Suleyman Schwartz, there is a handful of others, but what they offer is a non-traditional Islam with no foundation in Islamic theology or history, and no significant backing among Muslims. There is no large-scale movement among moderate Muslims to combat the Islamic State, Boko Haram, and other jihadis, much less CAIR and ISNA. There is no moderate Muslim organization with a large membership or influence among Muslims. I share Pipes’ hope that such an org eventually arises, but how long are we going to keep counting on it when it is so obviously not happening?

It’s a soothing solution for the ignorant and uninformed (such as Mayor Nutter, Catholic archbishops, liberal rabbis, etc.), but it is hardly a viable solution, and it is a manifestly failed analysis. Yes, Dr. Pipes, such an ad would have made everyone feel good. But it would have recruited absolutely no “new cadres for the battle against our common foe, the Islamists,” and would not have sparked the public debate that our ad sparked, that drew attention to numerous important issues, including the war against the freedom of speech, the nature of Islamic anti-Semitism, and more.

Failed analysis is not the solution; it’s the problem. Want proof? Run your ad, Dr. Pipes, and see what will happen: absolutely nothing.

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cmh
cmh
8 years ago

you know what Pam? In my opinion the single-most valuable thing you have ever done is to tell us about the real architect of the final solution. Bless you and keep safe. I love you for giving me that gift of knowledge. I thirst for truth and you made it all make sense.

Fred Smith
Fred Smith
8 years ago

An excellent website that explains Husseini’s influence and that of the MB.
tellthechildrenthetruth.com

knight
knight
8 years ago
Reply to  Fred Smith

Yes it is good, but one still has to explore others.

Bit from the site about his early life.

Amin Al-Husseini swears allegiance to the Ottoman Empire during the Armenian genocide [i] . [ii] He is an officer stationed in Smyrna and participates first-hand in the Armenian genocide.

He was a Captain during his early years. And from the link you gave it gives this bit about his participation in the Armenian Genocide.

Have also placed to past post from this site.

http://b1ff5939f6.nxcli.net/2010/01/the-muslim-hitler.html/

http://b1ff5939f6.nxcli.net/2015/04/video-unearthed-of-muslim-nazi-armies-raised-for-hitler.html/

bruce smirnoff
bruce smirnoff
8 years ago
Reply to  Fred Smith

Thanks for the website!

Dusty Koellhoffer
Dusty Koellhoffer
8 years ago

Islamic reform is not realistic. The spread of Islam must be stopped!
http://liberalsbackwardsthink.com/2015/05/26/reforming-islam-is-as-absurd-as-reforming-christianity/

Rita
Rita
8 years ago

The spread of this cancer is terminal if it is not stopped now.

Lia
Lia
8 years ago

The so-called islamic reform simply brings us to isis.

AnneM040359
AnneM040359
8 years ago

God Bless Pam Geller!

Noah Rosenblum
Noah Rosenblum
8 years ago
Reply to  AnneM040359

Ditto

AndreaSEvans
AndreaSEvans
8 years ago
Reply to  Noah Rosenblum

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Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago

I had thought Daniel Pipes as somewhat balanced and rational.
No more.

He’s another dhimmi, quaking behind his appeasement and denial; as a purported ‘scholar’, he KNOWS that HATE is one of the Pillars of Islam [along with terror] as manifested abundantly in the Koran- and that moderate Islam is a myth and a lie.
IGNORANT Islam is as close to ‘moderate’ as it comes… and most Muslims are indeed NOT moderate but ignorant of what they profess to believe.

Pamela has incurred a death sentence by her honesty and courage; Pipes is a coward in comparison.

Pipes is a Dhimmi
Pipes is a Dhimmi
8 years ago
Reply to  Jim Fox

Agreed 100%.

Mickey Oberman
Mickey Oberman
8 years ago

In trying, in his mind, to be fair and impartial, Pipes has become a traitor to Israel and the Jewish people.

BobSmith101
BobSmith101
8 years ago

Up to this point I thought Pipes was a reasonable source of information about Islam.

Sorry Pipes. You are a fool.

I want to talk about Islam. It is long over due. And Pam Geller does not need second guessing from someone who has lost perspective of reality.

Rita
Rita
8 years ago

Is Pipes an Arab?

Lia
Lia
8 years ago
Reply to  Rita

Thank you for this video, Rita. It is so precise and concise.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Rita

An Arab w/a name like Daniel sounds somewhat unlikely.

knight
knight
8 years ago
Reply to  Rita

Seen it a few times and it is good.

Lia
Lia
8 years ago

Dear Dr Pipes, I’ve always had such respect for you, but even I know about the mufti’s nazi history.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago

I wonder if Pipes has been compromised in the same way Little Green Crescent Footballs was?

Andy_Lewis
Andy_Lewis
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

What did happen to LGF? Is there a back story or did they just lose interest in fighting terrorism?

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Andy_Lewis

No one ever found out why Green Crescent Footballs did a 180 and began promoting islamic-nazism.

Andy_Lewis
Andy_Lewis
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

Right now LGF is featuring an NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert. Some jokes just write themselves.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Andy_Lewis

I’ll never go to Green Crescent Footballs again.

Red Bee
Red Bee
8 years ago

Mr. Pipes says nothing about the truthfulness of the main claim of the ad: “Islamic Jew-Hatred: It’s in the Quran.”. He also says nothing about the validity of the Muslim leaders’ assertion: “for anyone to say that we hate Jews or anyone else of faith, doesn’t know what they are talking about.”

The ad’s statement is true. The Muslim leader’s suggestion this is not the case is straight-faced denial. They get away with that because few non-Muslims read the Koran. You can take a closer look at the Koran on my website “Is Islam a threat?” and since I already paved the way for you it will take you only about 10 minutes. I designed the site to enable you to draw your own conclusions.

http://members.ziggo.nl/iiat/

Erik
Erik
8 years ago

Plans for the physical extermination of the Jews are not in “mein kampf”, there only is the plan to deport the Jews to the British mandate Palestine .
El Husseini is vehemently against this plan, and has genocidal plans of his own, importing Jews in this case is not helpful, and he organized numerous pogroms against the Jews in the years ’20 and ’30.
El Husseini is instrumental in the radicalization process of the German nazis in 1941 as is shown in the Nueremberg process declaration of Dieter Wisliceny.
Islam is the oldest form of nazism with its genocidal Jew hatred, it’s fuehrer prinzip.

knight
knight
8 years ago
Reply to  Erik

No he did not want Jews going to Palestine that he wanted to eradicate, that I heard he stopped a train load of 4000 Jewish Children sending them to the Gas Chambers been the first.

Erik
Erik
8 years ago
Reply to  knight

As the muslims were not capable of killing on a industrial scale, because they were so backward, het had to resort to convincing the nazis that they had to do it.
And he did, they changed their plans at the Wannsee conference.
El Husseini was instrumental in the radicalization of the nazis.

knight
knight
8 years ago
Reply to  Erik

Sorry Muslims have always killed in mass.

The Muslims were trained soldiers with the Kaiser sending in officers to train them to be organized soldiers. The Armenian Genocide.

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was there to pull together the Muslims to again take over the world.

Hitler knew how to mass kill from how he had seen the Armenian Genocide. Do not forget besides his hatred for the Jews, he was also exterminating Christians, Gypsies in the Balkans. He would have eventually turned on the Germans, Italians if they won WW2. Look at Germany and most of Europe invaded by Muslim refugees via of Italy.

Deep down I feel he even converted to Islam, but did not openly say, although accepting two Islamic names. Many Nazis converted to Islam and moved to Egypt to teach Muslims the cart of terror.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  knight

Islamic states provided safe harbor for Nazi war criminals in the same way Saudi Barbaria provided safe haven for Idi Amin from being charged w/crimes against humanity for the genocide he committed in Uganda.

knight
knight
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

Another butcher helped by Britain

notimpenetrablebyfact
notimpenetrablebyfact
8 years ago

Thanks Pamela for your uniquely brave efforts at simply trying to educate the public about the threat of mainstream, canonical Islamic jihadism, and its accompanying Jew/other “infidel”-hatred.

Pipes has no scholarly (or common sense) understanding of
Islamic Jew-hatred and cravenly refused to debate his uninformed vaporings http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2013/07/10/educating-daniel-pipes-on-islamic-antisemitism/

Pipes also is devoid of any scholarly understanding of
el-Husseini’s canonical Islamic Jew-hatred http://pjmedia.com/blog/egyptian-grand-mufti-attacks-pamela-gellers-bus-ads/,
or his Muslim leadership career (i.e., el-Husseini, given his global stature
was touted as the ideal candidate for “Caliph” in the immediate aftermath of
WWII by the Indo-Pakistani Muslim Caliphate seekers) http://www.amazon.com/dp/1493721925

knight
knight
8 years ago

It is when one looks at history, one can always find the dirty stench the Muslims leave.

If one looks at the reasons behind the first world war, from before the Armenian Genocide, Annexing of Serbia/Bosnia, War of the Pigs, Austria-Hungary replace the Turks with their own dominance with I guess Muslims. Serbian War 1912, Arch Dukes Ferdinhands role with Slav wife Sophie, Austria hated Arch Duke Ferdinand for marrying servant Slav Sophie (children will not take throne), read somewhere Franz and Sophie were going to take pressure of the Serbian Christians in Bosnia, again hatred for Franz and Sophie. Why really the Circassions were kicked out of the Caucus’s by Russia. Young Bosnian’s and the Black Hand and who did they really represent with a mix of cultures., How Turkey wanted the control of the Black Sea and Serbia. Turkey wanted to stop the decaying Ottoman Empire and take over the world. Italian War 1912. Russia had ties with Armenia. Kaiser liked the Muslim lifestyle, trained the Turks into fighting force while the Royal Cousins had their role to play.

How Turkey sent troops against Russia just before WW1
To me we went to war because of Islam

knight
knight
8 years ago

Time for all to research history and learn, even with the Battle of Derne and the Barbary Coast Pirates. Muslims slave trade that has existed from Muhammad till today. The USA has always taken the blunt for slavery in the USA, and the Muslims supplied the slaves.

If one likes to view a good movie try and get your hands on the movie, The Naked Prey. It deals with hunters and how one man has to escape the African tribe who hunt him. In the movie it also shows the Muslim slave trade of Africans.

If one

Patti York
Patti York
8 years ago

Of the MANY differences between Pipes and Pam, one thing stands out quite clearly. Pipes thinks that this fight is about HIM. Pam knows that it ISN’T about her. Its about truth, it’s about freedom or tyranny. As long as he keeps believing in this mythical “other” version or “moderate” or “user friendly” version of islam, he will continue to chase his own tail. Someone toss him a squeaky toy please, I am dizzy from reading his nonsense!

Prinz Eugen
Prinz Eugen
8 years ago

Not feeling satisfied, my looks at Pipes’ website have greatly dwindled. Tately check it out anymore. May be a great islamic scholar, but his allegiance seems to wander. He may be among the subscribers to the Bill of Rights, “but ….” not if it hinders sultan Barry and his beloved islam.

The congress must halt the iran “deal/alliance” and call sultan Barry on his big lies about “defeating” isis! No opposition leads to totalitarianism of the most intolerant variety!

Valerie Williams
Valerie Williams
8 years ago

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Beagle
Beagle
8 years ago

Richard Pipes, Daniel’s father, was instrumental in formulating the anti-Soviet policy which contributed mightily to the blowback of a modern virulent Sunni jihad, including al-Qaeda and eventually IS.
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?afghanwar_tmln_soviet_occupation_of_afghanistan=afghanwar_tmln_soviet_occupation_of_afghanistan&timeline=afghanwar_tmln

Moderate Muslims will come riding to the rescue on their unicorn steeds of war any day now.

bruce smirnoff
bruce smirnoff
8 years ago
Reply to  Beagle

Thanks for the website.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Beagle

Maybe we should begin rubbing old grolsch beer bottles in the hope of a mighty Djinni appearing and granting us three wishes!

Millionmileman
Millionmileman
8 years ago

What a coincidence, Arutz Sheva just published a Nazi provoked
atrocity that took place in Baghdad, in early June, 1941. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/195902

Michael G. Marriam
Michael G. Marriam
8 years ago

Pipes’ reform Islam meme is why I stopped reading him.

marble granite
marble granite
8 years ago

Moderate Muslims against the others? That is calling for Muslims who don’t believe the Koran and follow the teachings and way of Muhammad to oppose those who do. Daniel Pipes, get a clue as to what is taking place, at least read chapters 8 and 9 of the Koran for a start. Some people are reduced to such stupidity that they blame those who “offend the apostle” even as Muslims follow Islam and act to kill those critics of Pam Geller. “Certifiably insane” comes to mind as one description of those who open the doors for those who would kill them while they stifle obvious truths about the pending murder.

hadenough48
hadenough48
8 years ago

Pipes is a long time Council on Foreign Relations member. The CFR is the invitation only think tank that makes U.S. policy both foreign and domestic. Every administration repub and krat are completely staffed with CFR and Trilateral Commission members. Now you know why your representatives are useless over paid idiots.

Walter Sieruk
Walter Sieruk
8 years ago

The David Horowitz Freedom Center it has a very good short booklet entitled THE NAZI ROOT OF PALESTINIAN NATIONAL AND ISLAMIC JIHAD. Likewise there also is the informative internet site http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com

vlparker
vlparker
8 years ago

The ads are a failure? How does Pipes know? He is judging the efficacy of the ads based on the reaction of leftists leaders. Well, anyone could have predicted in advance how the left would act. Philly, Chicago, San Francisco, New York and all metro areas are all controlled by leftists. These multi-culti fools have a political agenda for the sake of having a political agenda. Their dream of Utopia on earth is what drives them and they never let reality and human nature get in the way of their dream. But how many average Americans were influenced by these ads to take a closer look at what is going on with islam? How many Americans who get their news solely from the MSM saw those ads and were stimulated to give the issue more thought, to look a little more deeply into the subject?

Did Pipes attack the anti-Israel ads when they ran? Or is he reserving his criticism only for those on his own side? I remember watching a youtube video with Caroline Glick and Alan Dershowitz arguing about booing Ehud Olmert, the former Israeli prime minister while he was giving a speech. Now I agree with Caroline Glick on almost everything and I agree with Dershowitz very rarely. But in this instance I came down on Dershowitz’s side. I think it is rude to boo a public speaker and if you disagree with him that strongly just get up and leave. However, if I was in the public eye like these people are I would have kept my mouth shut. I wouldn’t have sided with my opponent over an ally in public. Winning the war against islamic supremacism is the goal. Criticizing your own side only helps the cause of the enemy. So Pipes did with his article exactly what he accused Pamela of doing with the ads, he hurt his own cause. That is if his cause is truly to win the war against islamic supremacism. Maybe he has another goal. Maybe he needs to be on camera more often.

In his Pipes dream about moderate islam defeating radical islam, he conveniently forgets that moderate muslims, all 10 of them, don’t have Mohammad on their side. They have nothing to back up their ideas but wishful thinking. So fill that pipe with opium one more time, smoke away, and keep dreaming, Mr. Pipes.

Yahya Snow
Yahya Snow
8 years ago

If Piprd id peddling the Hitler-Mufti propaganda then he is being intellectually dishonest or just plain ignorant. That propaganda was exposed a long time ago:
https://yahyasnow.wordpress.com/2015/05/17/right-wing-hitler-propaganda-on-muslims-exposed/

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Yahya Snow

The islamic liar continues peddling his Al Taqiyya lies.

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  Yahya Snow

The level of self-delusion you practice is amazing.
You take yourself to some incredible depths to show that you worship a man who worshipped a stone.
(1 Timothy 4:1-5) “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; {2} Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Pipes is a Coward
Pipes is a Coward
8 years ago

Daniel Pipes admitted to a friend that he was paid to create the “moderate muslim” image in the media and it worked. Pipes if fully aware of Islamic Jew hatred.

Daniel Pipes is a coward and makes his living from being a coward.

He’s also quite a boring speaker.

Yahya Snow
Yahya Snow
8 years ago

Pipes is right in that the Mufti meeting Hitler is being used as propaganda wrongly.

Daniel Pipes is a Liar
Daniel Pipes is a Liar
8 years ago

Moderate Islam is a snow job created by Daniel Pipes and he was paid a lot of money to create this lie.

Is Pipes so arrogant that he really thinks people believe him. No one with an education or a brain believes Daniel Pipes.

RalphB
RalphB
8 years ago

An Islamic Enlightenment?

There will eventually be an Islamic Enlightenment — but there will not be an Islamic Reformation. The Christian Reformation was a movement to end the abuses of the Roman Catholic Church that, to the reformers way of thinking, was veering far from the original message and example of Jesus. Thus there can be no modern Islamic Reformation because it has already taken place: the Wahhabi movement, the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, and ISIS are the Islamic Reformation — the movement to end the abuses of Westernized and democratized Islamic nations in order to return to strict Sharia Law and the original religious (if you can call it that) vision of Muhammad.

Why was there an Enlightenment in Europe but not in the Islamic World? For the same reason there was a Renaissance in the west, but not the east: After flirting with the rediscovery of Ancient Greek culture and philosophy by Avicenna, Averroes and other Muslim thinkers (there were once such), Islam sank back into the mire of intellectual submission to its savage roots, never to be awakened until the defeat of the Ottoman Empire and the subsequent dragging of Islamic countries into the modern world by, war, technology, and the demand for petroleum.

But why was there a successful Enlightenment in the West? I maintain it was a combination of the explosion of information made possible by movable-type printing (c. 1440), leading to the explosion of sects and intellectual ferment that came with the Reformation (c. 1517-1750) — making all heresies possible, leading finally the exhaustion of the many contenders in the European Wars of Religion (c.1525-1650) when it became abundantly clear that faith was neither the guarantor of truth nor of victory. In the the wake of what can only be described as the shame of European Christendom, with the death toll reaching possibly 45 million souls — all in the name of Jesus, meek and mild — European thinkers, artists, writers, philosophers, and other persons of good will took a hard look at the utility of faith as the solution to human distress and turned instead to reason. Many contributed ideas. Locke published his Essay Concerning Human Understanding in 1689 and the movement away from faith and towards reason has continued to this day. Christians and Jews continued to look to their scriptures for guidance on the spiritual and moral order but no longer looked there for scientific truth or advice on creating the social order because all scriptural advice presumed a totally authoritarian social order — an order that had failed catastrophically.

So why will there eventually be an Islamic Enlightenment? Because the Internet is the unstoppable modern analog of movable type. Because Islam will never be monolithic again, and because the Islamic authoritarian social order will fail catastrophically. Mostly it will fail because of its own lies and internal contradictions. If we care about the futures of our children and grandchildren we should do everything we can to avoid moderating the current sectarian wars between Sunni and Shia, ISIS and IRAN, etc., while acting to prevent their encroachment on non-Muslim and not “moderate” but (currently) “American-friendly” Muslim countries. You be the judge as to whether the current battlegrounds, Iraq and Syria — or what parts of them — are American friendly.

Eventually, with the right strategy on our part, Islamic jihad will be bankrupt and exhausted, their national armies defeated, their leaders humiliated, and their countrymen who have been educated in the principles of Western liberal (rights-respecting) democracy will finally be able to bring the Enlightenment to Islam. Unfortunately, those Muslims educated by the Western leftist establishment will return home eager to impose new forms of totalitarianism in place of the old one.

So oddly enough, the battle will be won or lost on the campuses of American and European universities. I know that reason, liberty, individualism, and rights — if heard — will be victorious there as well, because most humans value life over death, and death is all that the haters of life and liberty have to offer. Therefore it is critical that the leftist’s plans to implement thought control in the universities (and major media) be defeated.

I have necessarily left out a great deal in this lightning tour of history and my vision of our future, but I hope it will inspire some thought. Use your Web-searching skill to investigate the people, ideas, and events I have mentioned if they are unfamiliar to you and tell us all what you think. Like many of you, I visit these blog pages and comments regularly.

Yankie
Yankie
8 years ago
Reply to  RalphB

I Agree Ralph! Knowledge is Power! This is our lethal weapon against Islam! The More people know about the Threat or Goal of Islam which Is “The Subjugation Of The “Entire World” To Islam Through The Establishment Of A Global Islamic Rule (Caliphate) And The “Eradication” Of ALL Non-Islamic Populations, Cultures, Religions, Thoughts, Knowledge, Symbols, Traditions And Ways Of Life”, the More chance we have to defeat Islam.

At the moment, one of our “Big Problem” is the EneMedia & Political Correctness because they’re both lying to the public citizen, for example: “Barrack Obama said ISIS was not Islamic, they’re not representing Islam!”. No Major Medias condemned the President for his bold LIE.
As a Canadian, I can see that there is definitely a war of free speech going on in our society and again, many people are just simply blind to it! Do you agree about that?
When we look at history, we can learn a lot from past events and/or errors so that we don’t commit the same mistake twice!

jackkemp
jackkemp
8 years ago

I once saw Daniel Pipes speak at a synagogue in NY, along with then Sen. Norm Coleman of Minnesota, around 2006. Although Pipes said a number of general things I agreed with politically, one could not help but notice there was a permanent sneer on his face as if he disdained everyone. No, I don’t have a photo or video to show you, but I believe you can still see that in others photos and if you ever see him on television or in person.

Mark I.
Mark I.
8 years ago

Pipes has made himself totally irrelevant in the Ant-Jihardist community. He is a talker, but not a doer & I sometimes wonder who’s side, he’s really on. I used to subscribe to his feed, but once I wrote a response defending Pamela, (without any disrespectful language) he didn’t even have the guts to allow the post to appear in his comments section. Instead he quickly deleted it. I unsubscribed from the web-site & would remark that he is ego-inflated academic moron. Sort of like Obama.

Daniel Diamond
Daniel Diamond
8 years ago

“Most good people don’t know that two-thirds of our foreign aid goes to Islamic nations.

Most good people don’t know that Islamic Jew-hatred is in the Quran.

Most good people don’t about the alliance between Hitler and al-Husseini.”

Education is the key and “bad people” are getting worried that more “good people”are getting educated.

Yes, most good people did not know about the above.

Globalfirm:Humanrights&ecology
Globalfirm:Humanrights&ecology
8 years ago

In Daniel Pipe’s frame of mind the truth is intolerable, not intolerant, non-Muslims must be in his world-view dhimmies that promote Taqiyya-style Islam Muhammadism, promoting the same open end sadist, racist, enslavement, torture, genocidal war, Sharia-dogma agenda, theist brainwash as the Muhammadist “radical” texts.

The soldiers for human rights have been fundamentally betrayed by current administrations.
But we can start the global government Globalfirm that protects Human rights & ecology.

The world is a natural immigration country. It can’t be that we create immigration ghettos while we can’t immigrate to places like North Cameroon/ Nigeria, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran being areligious, atheist, believing in human rights & ecology as benchmark & definition of ethics let’s say for locational astrological reasons.

Boko Haram, Obama’s partners (he blocked an helicopter-arms deal from Israel to the Nigerian Army) with as he promoted them “legitimate concerns” keep on murdering the public in Africa, Nigeria, Cameroon:                                        
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/12/suspected-boko-haram-bomb-in-nigerian-market-kills-about-50 

Government, mass media, academia & social media condemning Muhammadism should be the only way kids, people should get in touch with Muhammad’s violent commandments & agenda.
Not in mosques or any other groups.

It can’t be that we do nothing while a second Saudi Arabia is formed in Iraq, Syria. We need presidents that promise to eliminate easy targets like Isis, Boko haram, Al Shabab, Jihadis in Russia, Asia, wherever. Either through truth about sadist racist slaver, pederast Muhammad or with weapons.
Presidents that recognize ethics as human rights & ecology & are willing to go to war immediately when these two values are harmed even ideologically like in Islam.
Presidents that want the global government Globalfirm protecting individual human rights & ecology.

The mass media, academia, political parties don’t cover in no way Muhammad’s unethical side like his sadist open end commands to mass-murder, torture enslave, rape innocent people, his enslavement of Africans, his pederasty, instead idealize him.
The only way people get in touch with these aspects of Muhammadism is through brainwashing terrorist groups (or the counter-Jihad movement).
That can’t be.

The cause or effect of the mass-media’s idealizing lies about the not to idealize person Muhammad who really was an unjust sadist, pederast, rapist, racist slaver tyrant is the suppression of procreation of people who live by & for the truth. I think I’m single cause of that. This also goes for people who prefer beer & Marihuana over beer & cigarettes or hard liquor.

We need global governing & army to protect human rights & ecology (=ethics).
We must destroy Islam through attrition in mass media.
Truth should make Muslims convert to areligion, atheism, human rights the new religion.
People need to make sure the Islamic governments don’t use them as human shields in war.
Matter of fact Muslims use brainwashed people as (psychological) human shields.

Muhammad invented the slavery of Africans by proclaiming that his deity colored them black so their descendants would be slaves to Arabs & Turks. He had African slaves, was white & dreamed about a pederast paradise with only whites. Abeed means slave or African in Arabic.

There are 2 parts of Muhammadism: Islam (outward deception/betrayal) & Jihad (uncoded Muhammadist war) .
There are no segregated war times in Muhammadism. It’s an unjust war all time. War against human rights.

Muhammadan Jihad & Sharia is part of Germany’s history under Hitler. The massive immigration of Turks to Germany might bad been a search for spiritual identity as sadist Muhammad declared that his deity colored Africans black so their descendants would be slaves to Arabs & Turks. Here a text from my page Soundclick.com/Globalfirm:

 “The Hitler Islam connection: The facts written here are from what I’ve read & remember & could be subject to errors. 
Hitler said the only prophet he would respect was Muhammad.  
Muhammad was a sadist torturer who let innocent people burn alive for not praying, a mass-murderer, racist slaveholder who seem to have initiated the enslavement of Africans by proclaiming that his deity colored Africans black so their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs & Turks, he was a rapist who wanted all women to have cut out clitorisses, crucifier, a pederast who kissed little boys’ penises & sucked on boys’ tongues & lips, an unjust man who robbed & didn’t cared about radical human rights. 
Jews had to under the Hitler-regime sew a textile star as known from the Israel flag, on their clothes to be vulnerable. This idea, the textile yellow jewish star law was copied from an muhammadan tyranny since probably the 9th century in Baghdad where it was used probably without the more modern star-symbol & maybe for all non-Muslims. 
There was a terrorist Muhammadan in the middle east who continued Muhammad’s command to terrorize non-muhammadans and especially Jews. His name was Al-Husseini or something & he was appointed Grand mufti of Jerusalem, an islamic authority. He was financed by the Hitler-regime, then invited to Berlin where he was further financed & he was spreading his hate in Arabic, weekly through a radio-station from Berlin to the middle east, citing the Quran, promoting Nazis.

Amin Al-Husseini swore allegiance to the Ottoman Empire during the Armenian genocide & was an officer stationed in Smyrna and & was active in the Armenian genocide that mass-murdered innocent Armenians.

He met with Hitler, planned  the Hitler-regime death-camps in which Jews (6 million Jews were exterminated), Christians, Gypsies, Africans, intellectuals, human rights activists, homosexuals & socialists were tortured, enslaved, starved, killed. He for example urged in a letter to not let a special number of Jewish children to be freed for ransom money but to kill them. I’ve read he incognito visited the gas-chambers in Auschwitz.
It was jihad, Islamic terror. After Al-Husseini weighed in the Nazis shifted from deportation of Jews from Europe to mass-murder.
He also overviewed the only religious SS unit, SS was the Hitler-regime terrorist group in uniforms,  it was Islamic of course with halal food & Islamic style SS-uniforms. 
Al-Husseini’s was uncle to terrorist Islamic Nobel prize winner Arafat. 
Hitler took over the government in 1933, 5 years after the first mosque in Germany was build in Berlin. 
These facts should be known to every historian, pupil, student.”

There wouldn’t be no problem with immigration, the officially non-Muhammadan regions are interesting places of the world, wouldn’t be the government’s of those regions, lack of education on pederast, racist slaver & sadist Muhammad.
Cause this combination is disastrous.
Governments must get clear on ethics: human rights & ecology.

Here, immigration gone wrong, copy-pasted from a comment from a Pamelageller.com reader: 

” “Khaybar” is thename of a famous incident in 
which Mohammed led his followers into a ‘battle’ with a peaceful tribe 
of Jews who lived in the settlements of Khaybar, about 40 miles from Medina.

The Khaybar community were well known as productive farmers who
provisioned the whole area, they were also famous for their 
hospitality, lighting beacons so that travellers in the desert could 
find their way to some sort of shelter even at night.

Mohammed’s agents
got into the towns pretending to be travellers. They were treated as 
guests and then got up in the middle of the night and killed their 
hosts. Victorious in the subsequent battle, Mohammed ordered between 600 and 900 Jewish men beheaded and took the women and children as 
slaves.

Mohammed had the one Jewish tribal leader and his son killed, 
then took the son’s 17 year old widow for a ‘wife’ on the same day. 
When Moslems chant “Khaybar Khaybar ya Yahud” (“Khaybar, Khaybar, Oh 
Jews!”) they are remembering this slaughter with pride and expressing a 
wish to repeat it.” ”

It is mass-psychologically crucial to expose these things in mass media, educate about Muhammad’s sadism, slavery, racism, pederasty, sadist open end commandments etc., about Hitler’s atrocities in connection to Islam, about Muhammadism’s unjust violent history til today if we honestly don’t want this brainwashing & Jihad-violence to happen over & over again. It is political education.

Expose & ban the lunatic ideology of the white fascist inventor of slavery of Africans Muhammad, for the pride of Africans!
If we don’t want Jihad to reoccure again & again we have to educate about this pederast, white fascist inventor of slavery of Africans, (who justified slavery of Africans by saying that his deity colored Africans black so their descendants would be slaves to Arabs & Turks,) who dreamed about an all white people paradise with pederasty,
publicly shame, expose the rapist, thief, extortionist, deceiver, racist, mass-murderer, unjust torturer, crucifier who burned alive innocent people to death.

If government officials aint got that political education they are a public security threat, not dedicated to their task, not fit to do their job, disrespectful.
Apostates of theism unite for human rights the new religion.
No more power to people who are brainwashed with religious contracts they made with unicorns, Santa claus, deities or pederast, rapist, inventor of African slavery, deceiver & sadist Muhammad.
Islam works in two ways: Islam (Taqiyya-deception) & Jihad-violence.
Just like I don’t want the government to be infested with theism I don’t want it to represent any religion of Taqiyya deception or Jihad violence.

Enough of the retarded brainwash, enough of the arrogant people in the government that are too idle or too retarded to educate themselves about what Muhammad did & open-endedly commanded his army to do. Enough of the Jihad.

Some of Muhammad’s open end sadist commandments:
Quran 2:191 “Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.”
Quran 3:28 “Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.”
Quran 3:85 “Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.”
Quran 5:33 “Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam.”
Quran 8:12 “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than
the Quran.”
Quran 8:60 “Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.”
Quran 8:65 “The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.”
Quran 9:5 “When opportunity arises kill the infidels wherever you find
them.”
Quran 9:30 “The Jews and Christians are perverts, fight them.”
Quran 9:123 “Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.”
Quran 22:19 “Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods,
boiling water, melt their skin and bellies.
Quran 47:4 “Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; beahed them when
you catch them.”

We need memorials & a day of commemorance, minutes of silence for the innocent death & torture victims of Muhammad & of his followers til today.

Colin Lonie
Colin Lonie
8 years ago

Jews did 911

Nathan Pilson
Nathan Pilson
8 years ago

Ms. Pam says 2/3 U.S. foreign aid goes to islamic countries., but not to the islamic people who are impoverished., so where exactly to which muslims is the U.S. foreign aid going Mrs. Gellar., and who is over the banks that allow this money to goe to these Islamic Nations.? It certainly is not the White people who are over the Banks., do you know how many Jew ish names can be named over the banks sending money to Islamic countries., and what about Mr. Netanyahu seen on video and picture, helping ISIS-L terrorist injured by Syrian forces? and what about the other 1/3 of foreign aid., if the facts be known., Palestine , which is under Israeli occupation due to jewish fables , gets more than all of the Islamic nations combined., while Mr. Netanayhu visits ISIS-L terrorist and comforts them. So to be corrects, much of our foreign aid goes not only to islamic states., but islamic terror supporting non states like the Israeli regime occupying Palestine. what i find most amazing is the growing ineptitude on the behalf of so call zionist bolshevik types., who seemed not to evolved from that old protocol of zionist talmudic state. One Jewish fable is that Jesus came to save the white people., which is most further from the truth seeing that White people., mainly in ancient Syria, were already worshiping God ., The Book Malachi chapter 1 verse 11 gives clear reference to the Gentiles devoted worship of the God, jews were accused of scorning by their own jewish profits.,no Jesus came strictly for the Jews.and they still turned away, and in their ego built up on their own fables, they attempt to conquer the white race., which Malachi had told that ,they served god with devotion.and still do to this day. through the teachings of Jesus.as far as anyone who would be so foolish , as to follow the talmud., THERE IS A WARNING ISSUED TO THOSE WHO DO WILLINGLY FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF THE TALMUD.BECAUSE THE TALMUD IS A BOOK WHICH TELLS OF THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WHITE RACE, AND HOW TO ACHIEVE IT., THERE FORE., IT IS WRITTEN IN THE TALMUD ITSELF., THAT ANY JEW THAT EXPOSES THE TALMUD TO A GOY[GENTILE] IS WORTHY OF DEATH.BECAUSE IF THE GENTILE FOUND OUT ABOUT THE PLOTS AGAINST THEM IN THE TALMUD, IT WOULD MEAN WOE UPON JEWS AND DEATHLY REPERCUSSIONS.FYI ZIONIST THE TALMUD , LIKE BLAINE COOPER HAS BEEN EXPOSED TO THE GOY WHITE GENTILE., AND HE KNOWS zionist talmudic PLOTS AGAINST HIM., SO WHAT THE THE TALMUD SAY WOULD HAPPEN IN THIS CASE? YOUR DOOM.THIS IS WHAT THE BOOK WARNED YOU ABOUT.AND PRIDE AN ARROGANCE GOT IN THE WAY., TO THE POINT WHERE JEWISH DESIGNERS HAD THE UNEDUCATED NEGRO SINGER RIHANNA WEARING A DRESS, WITH THE KABBALAH TREE PRINTED ON IT.THIS IS CLEAR PROOF OF JEWS EXPOSING THE TALMUDIC TEACHINGS TO NON JEWS. YOUR OWN JEWISH CROOKS SEALED YOUR FATE, FOR PROFIT OF THEIR OWN POCKETS., SO JEWS KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH SUCH JEWS NOW. THIS IS IN THE TALMUD., NOT SOME EUROPEAN BOOK AGAINST YOU. THIS WAS YOUR INSTRUCTION TO ACHIEVE OVER THE GOY. RABI FOUND OUT TO BE GIVING STD TO INFANTS FROM PUTTING THEIR NASTY MOUTHS ON THESE INFANTS PENISES IN SOME KOOKY HOMOSEXUAL, NON BIBLICAL CIRCUMCISION RITE.THE MOUTH IS THE MOST NASTIEST PART OF THE BODY., WHO WOULD LET SOME OLD PERV PUT THEIR NASTY MOUTH ON THEIR CHILD`S PENIS. BECAUSE JEWS ARE LISTENING TO THESE JEWISH FABLES AS MUCH AS GENTILES ARE., AND SUFFERING FROM IT.

Nathan Pilson
Nathan Pilson
8 years ago

Ms.Geller one other thing.Let`s remember France., The MOSSAD KEYSTONE COPS WERE IN PARIS BEFORE THE ATTACKS.So Israel has the storage of all intell on earth. and Jewish people were targeted., I`m not Jewish, but if i were., mossad would be looking pretty shitty to me right now.,either they were this stupid, or this compliant., neither is excusable ., But common sense should tell anyone , if mossad was their prior., they had prior knowledge of the attack., which is a definite slap in the face to not only jew living in France but Jews living in diaspora., using fear to be played upon a single out group of people for profit , and not any people, but their own Jewish people.,Blacks have to deal with other blacks like this. so it is not a racial thing.but it is what it is. wrong.My Question is when is MOSSAD going to start going after Jewish crooks who have them committing terror against their own Jewish people? Jews were used in Sandy Hook too., just scapegoating the hell out of their own people. Now how is that right Ms.Gellar?

Ravi Ranjan Singh
Ravi Ranjan Singh
7 years ago

Dear Humans, Please lend me your ear, Humans are endangered now and still eager to sponsor its extinction. Please read, It is not just Problem of Finland or Europe:For them Infidel is Infidel, be an European, Indian, American, Japanese, Jew, Christian, Hindu/Sikh/Buddhist Atheist, Socialist or any one. The difference between all of the above sets are enough to divide them among themselves, but from’wolves point of view all are prey, and so all are under same threat. Is this threat not enough! to unite against predator? stop counting the reasons (may be a million and a half) that divides and further divides, concentrate on what unites. All the passengers of the ship have same fate, decide to be safe together or sink together?articular race religion or nationality but whole Human Race is going to be wiped out, the planet will be destroyed, it is not individual or national problems. Humans verses De-humanized Human like creatures. Unite against common threat. If will not fight together we will die together. Come under one banner and one BATTLE CRY
‘TILL WE FINISH THE VERY LAST DEVIL WILL NOT REST’

Blankety-Blank
Blankety-Blank
7 years ago

Sorry, since I really respect both authors in this post. But Pipes’ message was clear and insightful (I won’t even get into the quibling over petty details): The ad was counter-productive, and that is hardly mere speculation. Look at the consequences flowing from the ad. CAIR is yet again made more powerful.

J-Street has been very effective at misleading well-intended people just because its founder is a marketing type and knows how to lie and deceive very effectively. It doesn’t matter if your message has value, or if the product or service you are hyping is useful. What counts is how well you lure the viewer. In that, Pipes points out the deficiencies in outcome. To unload on him for his perspicacity is very unfair. All of you are working toward the same desired outcome. If you can’t learn from legitimate criticism, if you are determined to battle critics who share your goals but offer lessons on how to improve your actions, then you will never achieve your full potential and will waste a lot of misdirected energy and resources. I’m pleased that Spencer acknowledges one serious issue (“There is no large-scale movement among moderate Muslims… There is no moderate Muslim organization with a large membership or influence among Muslims. I share Pipes’ hope that such an org eventually arises, but how long are we going to keep counting on it when it is so obviously not happening?”) That is EXACTLY the point, which both Geller & Spencer brush by.

If we are to have peace between Islam and the rest of us in the world, we need to be working to mobilize those huge numbers of Muslims who are at best uncommitted and at worst are leaning toward immoderation. Calling them (well-deserved) names while your ads trigger public sympathy & support for them is counter-productive. We need the talents of boobs like the J-Street found whose name I refuse to type. Deception has produced dramatic results for him among people of extremely good will and poor intelligence. After all, that is what marketing is all about: getting people to desire goods, services, or viewpoints which they would never do if they were rational. Why wouldn’t such marketing skills work in other populations such as the Muslim populations who might well be activated for good if we just appealed effectively to them? And why can’t more people adopt the lessons of the salient criticism projected, learn from that insight, and further improve the results of their very serious efforts?

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