Islamic Women’s Group in UK Defends Islamic State, Predicts Expansion to Western Countries

she is. and she is an idot. so what? she has no power of governance. nor does the bible, at least not in America. and as it should be, neither does the Koran.
do you think a country should be run by Islamic law (sharia)?

and muslim believe in both as well as the Koran and the book of david.

The Quran, the holy book of Islam, was given to Muhammad, the final prophet of Islam. The Quran contains many references to other books that God sent to prophets at different times in history – namely, the Book of Abraham, the Torah (Taurat) to Moses, the Psalms (Zabur) to David and the Gospel (Injeel) to Jesus.

where do you get that from? I know of a muslim who claims to have memorized the bible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_holy_books

http://www.whyislam.org/submission/articles-of-faith/belief-in-divine-books/

“Believing in all four books is an essential part of the Islamic creed.”

who’s ‘my prophet’? I have no prophet. yes Muhammad himself said the bible has been corrupted. but that is a reference to the deification of Christ. 9:30 the jews say esra is the son of god. the Christians say jesus the son of mary is the son of god. …something about evil after that.
that doesn’t mean the muslims don’t read the bible.

yes muslims believe in the virgin birth. yes muslims believe it was a miracle by god.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_view_of_Jesus'_death
“Mary (Arabic: مريم‎ Maryām), the mother of Jesus (Isa), is considered one of the most righteous women in the Islamic religion. She is mentioned more in the Quran[2] than in the entire New Testament and is also the only woman mentioned by name in the Quran.[3] According to the Quran, Jesus was born miraculously by the will of God without a father. His mother is regarded as a chaste and virtuous woman and is said to have been a virgin. The Quran states clearly that Jesus was the result of a virgin birth, but that neither Mary nor her son were divine. In the Quran, no other woman is given more attention than Mary and the Quran states that Mary was chosen above all women:

Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee – chosen thee above the women of all nations.

—Quran, sura 3 (Al Imran), ayah

Live and let live, or not. Their choice, and the the consequences of that choice are theirs to bear.

And it is not limited to firearms. 😉

Being an old Cav trooper, got that covered as well.

well the muslims you know must not be too devout. I have no idea what the brits are doing with laws about bibles in hospitals? plus I just googled UK law against bibles in hospitals. I didn’t drill down past the first page, but could you please supply a link.

yes, they are all very devout. and I imagine they all believe in the virgin birth and wouldn’t fall out of their chairs laughing at that fairy tale.
btw, I will enlighten you that Mauritanian’s slaves are muslim. the country is nearly 100% muslim with 10 to 20% enslaved. and why would a kafir not be najis. why would one try to obtain ritual cleanliness to pray. kufar don’t do wudu.

your superlatives are funny. only, only. I imagine some of the people born into slavery and islam have abandoned islam for good reason. could there be Christians among the enslaved, of course. there could be someone descended from Ethiopian Christians who have managed to maintain their Christianity. but statistically it is not very likely and if so, the numbers would be statistically insignificant.
lol. where have I defended islam? or Christianity for that matter? I will say there is some equivalence between the two. obviously they share origins and belief in a non-existent god and angels. both allow for slavery. both have reeked havoc on the world. but clearly Christianity is more evolved then islam and less tied to ancient ways. made the 600 year head start is starting to pay off. it’s about time. or maybe we should thank our founding fathers for their wisdom in separating religion from governance.

Yeah slavery is funny isn’t it muslim fool?

Guess which states have legalized slavery in the 21st century muslim foolio? Yeah, that’s right islamic states! Allah enchilada!

Please GTH muslim sweinhunt:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/09/08/freedom-fighter

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/03/world/mauritania.slaverys.last.stronghold/

Your defense of the fact of islamic slavery in Mauritania is as weak as a newborn kitten muslim-nazi.

when have I tried to dodge the fact that 10 to 20% of Mauritania’s population is enslaved. never the less, it was technically outlawed in 1981. maybe 82. and criminalized in 2007.

I don’t know of any. but it is still technically illegal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/12/world/africa/mauritania-confronts-long-legacy-of-slavery.html?_r=0

yes.

Um, Jesus, unlike mohammad, never owned any slaves and never killed anyone’s husband to take her wife as a slave. Nice try at an argument of false equivalence muslim liar. Furthermore, in the 21st century, islamic states are the only one practicing legalized slavery.

are you talking about taqiya?

clearly islam is not a religion of peace. but if they actually believe it is, then saying that is not a lie. so what lie are you referring to? are you saying that muslims are lying why they say the bible is sacred to them?

Do us all a favor and learn about Jesus Christ of the Bible, and see the love he offers, open your heart to him and say a prayer that he will reveal the truth to you. No one needs to know as it can be your secret prayer. You do not have to yell it out, but do it in your own silence.

Like what I was saying before to you even the animals had love for Jesus, even the donkey that bears the cross.

Muslims will say that they believe in Jesus, but
the Islamic ‘Jesus’ is an impostor who denies the
Trinity and crucifixion, and who supports the ‘Mahdi’ (antichrist).
Their ‘Jesus’ mirrors the “false prophet” of
Revelation. Jesus himself warned of false Christs
coming in his name and even the “elect” being
deceived. You probably already know this, but
anyone reading this who doesn’t is in danger.

That’s all very well, but then that depends who
it is the Muslims view as being the enemy.

There’s a good video on all this. It’s a bit long

but it’s well worth watching and you’ll see the
deception :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXTB9iIsKC8

I used to be a sceptic myself, but then I started
started noticing astonishing parallels between
Biblical prophecy and what is happening now.
Pure coincidence? I don’t believe so, but I of
course respect others’ rights not to believe in
any of it. I don’t care if people believe in what’s
in the Bible or not, but I do want people to be
aware of the slick arguments and half-truths
used in Islam.

Like the re-establishment of Israel and that people
would be brought back there from all over the world,
and it’d be impossible to drag them out of their
homeland. Just that has happened when Israel
has repeatedly defeated their Arab neighbours,
and with overwhelming odds against them.
It was the very antithesis of Christianity, Nazism,
which brought this about and people like the grand
mufti of Jerusalem. Also, I believe the prophecies in
Habakkuk are being played out right now in the
Middle East and will only intensify. “And I saw the
martyrs who were beheaded”, the increased
persecution at the end – who is beheading who
now? I respect your right not to believe, you
should respect my right to believe.

I didn’t mean for that to sound so self-defensive
but that’s certainly how it sounded. Like you, I
don’t care what people do or don’t believe, it’s
just when it impinges upon everyone else’s
freedom that it’s a problem. And for some,
as we know, it’s a huge problem not restricting the
freedom of others.

Sadly, that will never be the case as Muhammad
said that Islam is a religion and a state. The
‘extremists’ have a stronger case than the
moderates.

Um, western civilisation has stopped beheading people retard, the muslims demonstrably have NOT.

You’re not even half as intelligent as your half a wit would have your believe.

There is for sure a most high God…there is also Satan or the Devil masquerading around as a angel of light…

LOL, yeah it’s not a lie as long as they believe it’s true. The mind of the psychopath in action.

What does Christianity have to do w/pi$$Lam again? Oh that’s right, nothing, nothing at all. Your attempt at an argument by red herring? FAIL.

LOL, how can you lie and not know it retard? It’s called deceit and it is a conscious act.

Another argument by red herring. What does Jesus Christ or Christianity have to do w/islam? Nothing, nothing at all.

Terrible they use a word that gives that meaning when it is a lie but hate

yes I’m aware of the concept.

What version of the Bible, probably one put out by a Muslim printer, just like the text books that are given to students omitting facts.

Yes the Quran tells them to go back to the scriptures The Torah and the Bible yet they do not understand what is written as it disproves the Quran

yes, they believe in the bible as they see it.
where is your quote from?
the gospel of peter is lost? it’s not in the gnostic bible? with the book of revelations according to peter? or the book of enoch?l according to mary?

And it’s not only the Bible they believe has been corrupted but the Torah as well.

“ok. so what. they still read it.”
They read it to discredit it as my endless interactions have shown me

So what Islamic sites have you been on discrediting the Qur’an? Any links for us? LOL

this is my favorite link. yaqin ends up putting a curse on me. talk about LOL.

my screne name is abul rauf because I was getting banned so quickly. It was a veiled reference to chris Jackson, aka Abdul rauf. and a typo. but you will see yaqin calls me mike. http://qa.islam.com/s/20109/what_does_islam_say_about_female_circumcision/comments/6e22abf4be#gsc.tab=0

I could probably find something back to 2011 on islamophobiatoday? that was the first site I ever commented on. http://www.islamophobiatoday.com/2012/06/14/tennessee-anti-islam-fanatics-fire-muslim-economic-development-officer/
I miss islamophobiatoday. those muslims were religious nuts, but at least some of them made semi-intelligent arguments. and the others always made me laugh. a day without a muslim calling me ignorant, was a day lost.

good. I wish everyone didn’t believe in the bible and the torah. throw in the Koran fro the trifecta and the world is much better off.

well, if you read what musliims say, they very much claim the bible is divinely reveled. yes, they say it is corrupted, especially the deification and resurrection of jesus. I always find it funny when muslims debate Christians and bring up the old testament.

here is a hadith of Muhammad calling for a couple of jews to be judged by the torah:

Narrated Ibn ‘Umar: A Jew and a Jewess were brought to Allah’s Apostle on a charge of committing an illegal sexual intercourse. The Prophet asked them. “What is the legal punishment (for this sin) in your Book (Torah)?” They replied, “Our priests have innovated the punishment of blackening the faces with charcoal and Tajbiya.” ‘Abdullah bin Salam said, “O Allah’s Apostle, tell them to bring the Torah.” The Torah was brought, and then one of the Jews put his hand over the Divine Verse of the Rajam (stoning to death) and started reading what preceded and what followed it. On that, Ibn Salam said to the Jew, “Lift up your hand.” Behold! The Divine Verse of the Rajam was under his hand. So Allah’s Apostle ordered that the two (sinners) be stoned to death, and so they were stoned. Ibn ‘Umar added: So both of them were stoned at the Balat and I saw the Jew sheltering the Jewess.

‘Divine Verse’

yes it is convenient. and it is ironic that the OIC has called for an international blasphemy law, when their claims of the bible being corrupted and full of lies, could itself be considered blasphemy.

muslims aren’t known for their logic or consistency. clearly they expect privileges that they are not willing to extend to others. they expect their religion to be respected and protected while they extend no such courteous to others, especially those who aren’t considerer ‘people of the book’.

as a true infidel, one without faith, or a kafir as the muslims like to call us, one who ‘conceals the truth’, I’m well aware of Islamic attitudes towards non-muslims.
file:///C:/Users/Monique/AppData/Local/Microsoft/Windows/Temporary%20Internet%20Files/Content.IE5/TJNH574R/book_of_jihad.pdf
“Calling towards the true religion and fighting with one’s soul and wealth against those who reject it. (Al Inayah Sharh al Hidayah (Hanafi))

Jihad is fighting. (Al Sheerazi in al Muhadhab (Shafi’i)

Jihad is a Muslim waging war agianst a non-Muslim who has no peace
agreement with Muslims and the fighting is for the sake of the word of
Allah to prevail. Jihad is also fighting the non-Muslim who attacks Muslim territory and it is also the Muslims attacking the non-Muslims in their land. (Mawahib al Jaleel fi Sharh Mukhtasar Khalil (Maliki))

Jihad is a cure for the individual and the society. It cures the individual by delivering him from the sickness of disbelief to the wellbeing of Islam. Disbelieving in Allah is the greatest disease of all and the most destructive on all humanity, while Islam is the complete cure. Jihad cures the society by eliminating the source of corruption and oppression. Leaving the disbeliever unharmed increases the disease and strengthens it and allows the cancer to spread. Therefore Islam cannot flourish and Muslims cannot live in peace unless the disease is cured. If it is possible to cure the disease by using a medicine then be it. Otherwise the infected portion must be amputated even though the amputation could cause pain and suffering for the body. But then no one could claim that the amputation cruel or inhumane. It was necessary for the survival of the body. That is precisely the role of Jihad in Islam. First the message should be conveyed through peaceful means. If the peaceful course is exhausted and it did not bear its fruits, the bearers of the truth would need to draw their swords and fight in order for the word of Allah to prevail.”

The Topkapi manuscript of the Koran differs from the present accepted text in 2,270 places.
See Jay Smith on youtube:
Historical Discrepancy of Quran in Geography and Times – Jay Smith

he said muslims don’t read the bible. that is not true. I’ve personally spoken to muslims who read the bible. yes, we all know muslims believe the bible to be corrupted. things changed and things added. letters from Paul to the Corinthians or Romans are clearly added. even Christians know that. I’ve never heard anyone refer to paul as a prophet who received divine revelation, other than being knocked from his horse.

Nice taqiyya. That is lying and deceit to non-muslims that muslims engage in. There is also kitman, a similar concept.
Stop lying and trying to deceive us.

I agree, muhammad encouraged his followers to lie (i.e. “war is deceit”). This “atheist” takes far too great an interest in defending islam (even posting links to islamic propaganda sites) to be anything but a lying muslim.

They do not know what is in their own Quran, they do not know the life of Muhammad or the hate for non believers

Just Muslims like to say the Quran is correct so the Bible and Torah differs, yet the Torah and Bible were written well before the Quran. As they say those two books were written by the people who were there or within the same generatio and by many witnesses.

The Quran written couple hundred years after and no direct witnesses, only by word of mouth and a few bits here and there.

Even 10 to 40 years after the wars we have conflicts even with written details, so imagine 200 years and by a few.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HoX5mxBfBoM

Trouble is the books are history and verified by ruins, that is why Islam destroys libraries and buildings that prove the existence other Christian God and Jesus Christ.

My Jesus died for my sins and rose to show he had power over life and death, and that he was the Son of God and the trinity you will never understand because you will not open your heart to the love Jesus so offers.

Yes, but what do you believe is more important

I hope in your own heart, you will know the love of Jesus

Are the holy books of Islam fairy tales? Is Allah a fairy tale?

I wonder how your concept would play in ANY islamic state?

You should ask where are the animals around Muhammad, and most wildlife were with Jesus, something very lacking with Muhammad.

Sorry you do not understand, something your missing out as Jesus is the light as Muhammad was in darkness in a cave with the Prnce of darkness of this world.

All God’s profits were in the light.

The book of Abraham?
I’d like to read it.
Where do I find this book?

“The Quran contains many references to other books that God sent to prophets at different times in history – namely, the Book of Abraham, the Torah (Taurat) to Moses, the Psalms (Zabur) to David and the Gospel (Injeel) to Jesus.”

The above are your words. I believe you are the confused one.

The coran is a collection of Jewish stories, badly rehashed by moohamhead.
One of the major reasons for his extreme hatred for the Jews is because the laughed at him when he tried to sell himself as a prophet using these same stories that they had sold him.
The “line of the prophets” that your profit is attempting to break into is Jewish.
Your profit claims to be the last in the “line of the prophets”, yet entirely changes the words and message of the “one who came before him in the line”, whose message was, love ye one another.
Your profit thought that he was going crazy and attempted suicide at least twice after meeting the entity he called ‘jibril’. (Maybe that is why your book is just a collection of “jibberish”.)
This is in sharp contrast to the true prophets of God, who after ‘falling on their faces’, when faced with the awesome power of God, were always comforted by God’s messenger to ‘fear not’.
As for your last line………

yes. where else would you find the beliefs of muslims? should I go to the Vatican site? maybe a hindu site?

“Revealed Scriptures

Revelation is the medium by which Allah claims to have communicated his words to his prophets so that they may inform the people of his will, what he wants from them and what they must do for him in order to be saved from eternal damnation.

The Torah/Old Testament

Main Article: Taurat

The Qur’an talks of the Taurat/Tawrah ( توراة ) referring to the Torah – the first five books of the Jewish Bible; found in the Old Testament of the Christian Bible. Some Muslims and scholars believe it refers to the entire Old Testament, but this view is not widely held.

The Psalms

Main Article: Zabur

The Zabur mentioned in the Qur’an refers to the Psalms of the Old Testament. The Qur’an asserts that the Zabur is one of the 3 Previous Revelations of Allah. Although they are only mentioned three times in the Qur’an, Allah tells us that he revealed them to David.

The New Testament/Four Gospels

Main Article: Injil

The Qur’an talks of the Injil (إنجيل) referring to the New Testament of the Bible (usually the four Gospels), which it claims was given to Jesus, rather than being written by his followers.

The Qur’an

Main Articles: Qur’an and Al-Fatiha

The Qur’ān (القرآن) is the central religious text of Islam. Muslims believe the Qur’an to be the book of divine guidance and direction for mankind. The best-known chapter of the Qur’an is al-Fatiha ‘The Opening’. This surah is recited as part of all the mandatory daily prayers and repeated within each prayer. A faithful Muslim who said all their prayers would recite this surah at least seventeen times a day, and over five thousand times a year.

The hadith literature make negative references to the Jews and Christians in connection with this surah. Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan and Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali incorporate this within their translation. Ayah 6-7 thus reads; “Guide us to the Straight Way. The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace, not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger (such as the Jews), nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians).”

It is remarkable that the daily prayers of every Muslim, part of the core of Islam, include a rejection of Christians and Jews as misguided and objects of Allah’s wrath.”

The popular (and ridiculous) narrative around
the Antichrist is that he’s some gay European
Atheist or something, which is nonsense.
He’s neither gay nor an Atheist.
He will lead a revived seventh kingdom in
the Middle East, and we read in Daniel 11 :
“37 He will show no regard for the gods of his
ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor
will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above
them all. 38 Instead of them, he will honor a god of
fortresses; a god unknown to his ancestors he will
honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and
costly gifts.”
The above passage is so revealing.

no. he is the seal of the prophet[s]. Noah, Abraham, Solomon, Moses, Jesus and many others are prophets in islam.

good questions for a muslim. you should find one to ask. go to loonwatch.com and you will find a bunch. ask them. but having seen some of these questions asked and answered before, I will intercede on their behalf, much to their chagrin I’m sure.

1) many muslims pray in non Arabic languages. but it is better to learn the Arabic because muslims often pray communally. so it would be nice for everyone to be vocalizing the same sounds.

2) they don’t worship the black rock. they believe it to be divinely sent from heaven. many do try to kiss the black rock when on hajj, because they believe is absorbs their sins. the claim it was once white but has been turned black from all the sins it bears. I’ve seen muslims debate this. http://qa.islam.com/s/19523/the-black-stone#gsc.tab=0

btw, a khalifa tried to destroy it. he broke it into pieces in like the 11th or 12th century. but pieces survived. kind of like the iconoclast movement by the byzantine emperor.
3) I’ve never heard of a martyr’s/suicide bomber’s intervention for family members. please provide citation.
4) I often ask muslims where gog and magog are. I’ve never gotten a decent answer. but I think you are misreading that verse. the translations I’ve read say, [as if] setting in a…
so I think that is easily explained as ‘the two horned king’ was standing at the edge of a swamp of maybe a peat bog in Ireland as the sun went down over the horizon.
but the Koran does say that allah spread the earth out like a carpet. and the four corners are mentioned. that is why the late grand mufti, who died in the 1900s I believe, was a flat earther.

I’d say mohorrid is more like Manson on acid — except he had a lot more followers willing to kill, plunder, enslave and rape for him.

“Jesus stated that there were no prophets after him”

Not according to the The Holy Bible. In fact, according to the New Testament Bible, he stated that there will be one.

Perhaps you have not read the Sacred Scriptures for yourself.

The Torah is the foundation of the bible!! Many times Jesus mentioned THE LAW
He once stated: think not that my coming is to abolish the law but instead to FULFILL THE LAW!!!

I’m a Messianic believer. Trust me I know of many Jews that believe in Christ!…I know, I know most do not and in Israel messiannics are treated as second class citizens if there even lucky enough to get citizenship…

Jews believe in the Holy Torah only. Christians believe in the Torah(OT) and the New Testament(NT).

You know nothing Yahya Snow

I’m a muslim barrow? that is news to me. not that I’m even sure what a barrow is in this context? do I have a wheel as well?
yes I am ignorant of much. can you tell me where gog and magog are?

where did you get that gog is the leader of magog?

ah yes. the ever self-contradicting bible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog
“Revelation and the intertestamental period[edit]

Chapters 19:11-21:8 of the Book of Revelation recount a vision in which Satan is released from the abyss and rallies “the nations in the four corners of the Earth, Gog and Magog,” to a final battle with Christ and his saints:[2]

When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the Earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.[18]

The book dates probably from the end of the 1st century CE,[19] by which time Jewish tradition had long since changed Ezekiel’s Gog from Magog into Gog and Magog.[20] The process, and the shifting geography of Gog and Magog, can be traced through the literature of the preceding few centuries between Ezekiel and Revelation. The 3rd book of the Sibylline Oracles, for example, which originated in Egyptian Judaism in the middle of the 2nd century BCE,[21] changes Ezekiel’s “Gog from Magog” to “Gog and Magog” and places them “in the midst of Aethiopian rivers”; this seems a strange location, but ancient geography did sometimes place Ethiopia next to Persia or even India”

I think you’re wrong, I think mohammad at some point declared the Bible and Tanakh to be compromised/corrupted. Imams/mullahs/ayatollahs don’t stand around anywhere reciting the bible to muslims.

Jews do not belive in Jesus except as a heretic or trouble maker. A Sacrii, or terrorist, according to some.

lol.

think whatever you want. me, I’m headed over to pronhub. then taking care of some personal business.